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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 05:27:34 PM

Title: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 05:27:34 PM
QuotePrime Minister Justin Trudeau never misses an opportunity to boast about how his government will do everything it can to protect Canadians' Charter of Rights and Freedoms.



Convicted terrorist Omar Khadr is Trudeau's most high-profile example for his Charter of Rights arguments. When he was a teenager, Khadr killed a U.S. soldier while fighting with the Taliban.  The Supreme Court ruled Khadr's rights were violated during his captivity. The Liberal Government compensated him with a $10.5 million payout.



It was like winning the lottery. It was all taxpayer money. Trudeau has been defending that multi-million dollar apology ever since. He has said repeatedly, "the fact is, that we should all be outraged that a Canadian government violated a Canadian's fundamental rights."



What about the fundamental rights and freedoms of Canadians who are being denied Canada Summer Jobs funding unless they sign an oath stating they agree with the Liberal Government's position on abortion? Justin Trudeau has no problem violating their rights. Freedom of Religion, Conscience and Belief are just a few of the Charter Rights being violated.



This year, the Liberal government requires everyone applying for a Canada Summer Jobs Grant to sign an "attestation" that neither their core mandate, nor the jobs being funded, oppose human rights.  That includes reproductive rights.  That amounts to an "attestation" that they agree with abortion.



Most churches and faith-based groups believe abortion is morally wrong. But there is no way around the abortion rights oath in the application. If they apply online, they must check the box that they agree with women's reproductive rights. If they don't check the box, they can't go any further in the online application process  If they mail it in and the box isn't checked, the application won't be processed.



Eighty per cent of the Canada Summer Jobs applicants in my riding of Niagara West are churches or faith-based charities. My office has received emails and phone calls from church organizers worried that they won't be able to offer programs to hundreds of children this summer because their application will be rejected.



One such church program in Grimsby contacted my office to say organizers are submitting a paper application with an additional letter of explanation as to why they can't check the "attestation." This program offers a summer camp experience to more than 300 children. Many of those children have developmental disabilities. The Summer Jobs Grant money is used in part to train camp counsellors how to interact with these children. But this year the program is in jeopardy because the church will most likely be denied federal funding.



Employment Minister Patty Hadju has said the federal government won't pay for work that actively undermines Canadians rights. How does the work churches do undermine fundamental rights? Churches feed the poor, help settle refugees and organize summer camps for disadvantaged children. Why are they being denied federal funding? It's discriminatory. The attestation is offensive. It violates the very Charter Rights it claims to defend.



Justin Trudeau has said a church's core mandate is not anti-abortion activism, so therefore, it can check the box. But the issue is that church leaders cannot morally check a box that affirms they agree with the right to abortion. These church leaders and program organizers have integrity. But integrity is something Justin Trudeau simply doesn't understand.

http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/justin-trudeaus-values-test-is-offensive

This shows what a hypocritical fraud True Dope is. He has no problem giving millions of dollars of our money away to convicted muslime killers, but churches that don't agree with him on abortion don't get money to hire students. It's fucking outrageous.



Why the fuck is this irrelevant, nosy question even being asked? What's next, this question being on the online job applications for the federal snivel service/
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 05:48:38 PM
This is offensive, intrusive and an affront to free speech..



This is what Chiang Kai Shek did when he was Taiwan's dictator....agree with him or else there will be consequences..



Meanwhile, our church will be denied funding that employs young people and helps various disadvantaged groups in my city..



I'm upset about this.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 07:37:21 PM
About eighty per cent of the 69,000 temporary jobs created last year through this program are run by faith groups. Their opinions on abortion are not an issue for getting summer jobs. This attestation is a violation of fundamental rights and should be immediately dropped.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Bricktop on February 03, 2018, 07:46:10 PM
At least Trudeau reminds me that we don't have the world's worst leader.



Second worst, maybe...



But not the worst.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 07:50:41 PM
JT is the most inept and ideological pm we've had in my lifetime.



I don't know much about Turnbull other than he's unpopular.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Bricktop on February 03, 2018, 07:53:05 PM
He is inept, ideological but utterly disconnected from the population. Either that or he just ignores us and keeps doing dumb things.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"He is inept, ideological but utterly disconnected from the population. Either that or he just ignores us and keeps doing dumb things.

May I ask the meaning behind your new avatar Bricktop?
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Bricktop on February 03, 2018, 09:02:47 PM
It is the sign of the Grammar Nazi!!!



You misspell, I raise hell.



You miss a comma, I send a bomber.



Misuse a noun, I shoot you down.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Wazzzup on February 03, 2018, 09:42:00 PM
Classic leftist totalitarianism.



Message--There is only one acceptable opinion on Islam, only one accaptable opinion on global warming, only one acceptable opinion on abortion etc on down the line.  Disagree and you will be punished.



I'm not religious and I am pro choice (for two trimesters) but I think this is a disgusting abuse of freedom, a violation of the charter, and tyrannical abuse of government power.  Hopefully there is enough outrage to stop trudeau's tyranny, if not maybe the courts will strike it down.  



This is something you would expect from a third world dictatorship or the old soviet union not a constitiutional democracy.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: cc on February 03, 2018, 09:56:20 PM
QuoteThis is something you would expect from a third world dictatorship.........

You haven't figured out that's what we have become?
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 10:36:48 PM
JT, although an airhead, is a chip off the old block. Father and son were my way or the highway leaders.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 11:04:43 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It is the sign of the Grammar Nazi!!!



You misspell, I raise hell.



You miss a comma, I send a bomber.



Misuse a noun, I shoot you down.

Of course.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Classic leftist totalitarianism.



Message--There is only one acceptable opinion on Islam, only one accaptable opinion on global warming, only one acceptable opinion on abortion etc on down the line.  Disagree and you will be punished.



I'm not religious and I am pro choice (for two trimesters) but I think this is a disgusting abuse of freedom, a violation of the charter, and tyrannical abuse of government power.  Hopefully there is enough outrage to stop trudeau's tyranny, if not maybe the courts will strike it down.  



This is something you would expect from a third world dictatorship or the old soviet union not a constitiutional democracy.

I was talking with my mother today about this and we both agree with you, and my mother lived in Taiwan under Chiang's dictatorship.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: cc on February 03, 2018, 11:49:49 PM
Quote from: "Herman"JT, although an airhead, is a chip off the old block. Father and son were my way or the highway leaders.

His father was deadly. He ordered Marshall law simply because a high placed figure  was murdered, likely by an anti govt group



A test clearly ... to see just how far he could go



Sunny is not bright like daddy, but under it all he is also a totalitarian inside and will push the limits up to and including totalitarianism if he can get away with it
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 11:51:40 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Herman"JT, although an airhead, is a chip off the old block. Father and son were my way or the highway leaders.

His father was deadly. He ordered Marshall law simply because a high placed figure  was murdered, likely by an anti govt group



A test clearly ... to see just how far he could go



Sunny is not bright like daddy, but under it all he is also a totalitarian inside

Justine is his father's daughter.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: cc on February 03, 2018, 11:55:41 PM
Oh, he downplays terror, but when there is a very major act here, possibly elsewhere, or upon a the govt.  he will use it to his advantage .. This new bill clearly demonstrates the the will not only go way over the "line" .. .given opportunity he will go all the way
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2018, 11:58:33 PM
Quote from: "cc"Oh, he downplays terror, but when there is a very major act here, possibly elsewhere, or upon a the govt.  he will use it to his advantage .. This new bill clearly demonstrates the the will not only go way over the "line" .. .given opportunity he will go all the way

What anti terror bill is that cc?
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: cc on February 04, 2018, 12:24:09 AM
What I meant was that if he will flirt with any  bill limiting personal rights he is capable of anything including using any pretext to employ Marshall Law



There has always been Marshall Law permission to the PM, as used ONLY by his father with very little reason to use it at the time .... so no new bills are not needed from his perspective ... . and for someone as totalitarian minded as he has already proven himself to be  ... it wouldn't take much of an excuse to employ it
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2018, 12:30:49 AM
Quote from: "cc"What I meant was that if he will flirt with any  bill limiting personal rights he is capable of anything including using any pretext to employ Marshall Law



There has always been Marshall Law permission to the PM, as used ONLY by his father with very little reason to use it at the time .... so no new bills are not needed from his perspective ... . and for someone as totalitarian minded as he has already proven himself to be  ... it wouldn't take much of an excuse to employ it

I see what you mean cc, thank you.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Angry White Male on February 04, 2018, 02:20:04 AM
My Stepfather was part of RCMP security detail whenever Pierre Trudeau and entourage visited Van...



Margaret Trudeau was Pierre's wife at that time.  I won't repeat what has been told to me, but I will tell you this:



Margaret had legitimate mental health issues.  Of course it is possible to pass that on, to their son Justin.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Wazzzup on February 04, 2018, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Classic leftist totalitarianism.



Message--There is only one acceptable opinion on Islam, only one accaptable opinion on global warming, only one acceptable opinion on abortion etc on down the line.  Disagree and you will be punished.



I'm not religious and I am pro choice (for two trimesters) but I think this is a disgusting abuse of freedom, a violation of the charter, and tyrannical abuse of government power.  Hopefully there is enough outrage to stop trudeau's tyranny, if not maybe the courts will strike it down.  



This is something you would expect from a third world dictatorship or the old soviet union not a constitiutional democracy.

I was talking with my mother today about this and we both agree with you, and my mother lived in Taiwan under Chiang's dictatorship.


Unfortunately she has lived through it, so she knows what Tyrannical government abuse looks like. And that's what this is.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2018, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"My Stepfather was part of RCMP security detail whenever Pierre Trudeau and entourage visited Van...



Margaret Trudeau was Pierre's wife at that time.  I won't repeat what has been told to me, but I will tell you this:



Margaret had legitimate mental health issues.  Of course it is possible to pass that on, to their son Justin.

She was totally nuts.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2018, 12:50:40 PM
Another Trudeau tramples on civil liberties. Wait until this fool is re-elected.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2018, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Another Trudeau tramples on civil liberties. Wait until this fool is re-elected.

Just like you, none of the choices inspires confidence in me, but at least the alternative probably won't impose their values on us.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 07, 2018, 05:37:46 PM
It isonly mostly white Canadian girls having abortions and as white people are the majority this will help even the Canadian population out so that sooner rather than later minorities will not have to be minorities in Canada anymore.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2018, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"It isonly mostly white Canadian girls having abortions and as white people are the majority this will help even the Canadian population out so that sooner rather than later minorities will not have to be minorities in Canada anymore.

Joak, you are the poster child for being pro choice.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: cc on February 07, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
He extends the argument into the area of "retroactive"
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2018, 03:31:21 PM
Is Trudeau about to give millions more of our money to another terrorist?



This was written by Mark Bonokoski.


QuoteGet out the taxpayers' chequebook, because we are about to write another whopper to yet another suspected terrorist on the grounds, as our prime minister loves to tell us, "a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian."



A guess? Probably $10 million or so.



In other words, the usual sum.



Earlier this week, the Trudeau Liberals decided to ditch settlement talks with Sudanese-canadian Abousfian Abdelrazik, a Montrealer who is suing the federal government for $27 million over a six-year ordeal of purported custody, torture and exile in his home country of Sudan after CSIS alleged, apparently wrongly, that he was an al-qaida operative.



Instead of cutting him a cheque, therefore, the Liberals decided at the 11th hour to roll the dice and take a chance with the courts.



This is foreign territory for the government.



In fact, a full-fledged mediation conference to settle the Abdelrazik case was apparently about to begin, but, 24 hours later, the Trudeau government pulled the plug on it.



It will now be settled in court.



There is no question that Trudeau Liberals are still stinging from the public flogging that came with handing $10.5 million to former Guantanamo Bay poster prisoner Omar Khadr for breaching his rights, and later another $31.25 million to three Syrian-canadians supposedly tortured in Syria after being wrongly accused by CSIS of having links to terrorism.



The Liberals argument at the time was that the money cut to all four aggrieved parties likely saved Canadians millions more in damages if the court cases had been lost.



Taxpayers, however, didn't buy it.



To them, paying out a grand total of almost $42 million to four sketchy individuals, even if they were wronged, was too enormous a price to pay for what amounted to a surrender.



Never mind that it would take 210 years for the average Canadian just to earn the money paid out in one swoop to boy terrorist Khadr.



To an overwhelming majority of hard-working Canadians, paying that money without a fight in the courts was like punting on first down.



Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale was coy this week about what changed his government's mind.



But, unless it has evidence that Abdelrazik was the master of his own fate, and that CSIS played no role in his detention and exile in Sudan, then there will be a large cheque cut.



The Trudeau Liberals inherited this mess from the Harper Conservatives, of course, but CSIS is CSIS regardless of who is in power, and the public safety bureaucracy remains filled with largely the same bureaucrats.



Documents disclosed as part of the discovery process have apparently raised questions about how culpable CSIS actually was in Abdelrazik's detention in Sudan, and how far the agency went to prevent Canada's foreign affairs department from getting him released so he could return to Montreal.



When it goes to court, however, Abdelrazik's lawyers will have the PM of this country in their corner.



It was Justin Trudeau, after all, who first waved the white flag and took the hyphen out of hyphenated Canadians.



His posturing lecture about "a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian" following the payout to Khadr will end up being the most-expensive eight words he will likely ever utter.



And his payout to Khadr, as well as the $31.25 million paid out to the Syrian-canadian collective of Abdullah Almalki, Ahmad El Maati and Muayyed Nureddin has set a precedent that will only aid the plaintiff.



Abdelrazik will get his money. In fact, it's almost guaranteed.



And $10.5 million sounds just about right, even though it's wrong.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
Quotethe $31.25 million paid out to the Syrian-canadian collective of Abdullah Almalki, Ahmad El Maati and Muayyed Nureddin has set a precedent that will only aid the plaintiff.

I was unaware of this.
Title: Re: True Dope Violating Our Fundamental Rights
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2018, 12:10:48 PM
Scott Simms, was  removed as  fisheries chair after he broke ranks with his own party and voted with the Conservatives against a controversial change to the student summer jobs program. At issue was  a clause in a student summer jobs program that requires groups applying for grants to attest to abortion rights. Scott Simms  said it would violate their fundamental beliefs in order to receive funding for jobs and programs that are non-political, or unrelated to reproductive rights.