Title: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 10:20:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 10:20:14 PM
Boushie, a member of the red Pheasant First nation, was 22 years old in August 2016 when he and four friends drove an SUV up the long, gravel driveway leading to Gerald Stanley's farmhouse west of Saskatoon.
In the confrontation that followed, Boushie ended up being shot in the head, which is the obvious and heartbreaking part of this tragedy. Colten Boushie didn't deserve to die.
The details and evidence of the trial have been both contradictory and controversial.
That Boushie and four friends, aged 18 to 24, had been drinking, tried to steal a vehicle using a gun as a crowbar before arriving at Stanley's farm, then drove onto the property looking for help with a flat, not to steal.
In the confrontation that occurred after one youth jumped out of the SUV and tried to start an ATV parked in Stanley's yard, Stanley maintained the handgun he used to scare them off discharged accidentally.
In the wake of the verdict, Boushie's family were understandably outraged. Any parent would feel the same.
red Pheasant First nation Chief Clint Wuttunee and Indigenous activists across the country expressed outrage at the verdict and Canada's justice system, which they insisted perpetuates racism and offers little justice for Indigenous people.
Stanley's acquittal, meanwhile, may be subject to appeal and the RCMP is facing allegations it botched the investigation. And if racism or errors influenced the verdict or investigation, the courts must be permitted to do their work.
That's why public remarks by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, his Justice Minister Jody Wilson-raybould and Indigenous Services Minister Jane Philpott are so alarming.
"I am going to say we have come to this point as a country far too many times," Trudeau said during a news conference in California. "I know Indigenous and non-indigenous Canadians alike know that we have to do better."
Trudeau and his ministers tainted and undermined the independence of Canada's judicial system with prejudicial remarks made for what appears to be naked political gain.
They've served neither justice, nor the cause of Colten Boushie.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 10:27:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 10:27:07 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Bricktop on February 13, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 13, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
Politicians need to be silenced over court determinations. It could be construed as contempt of court.
The jury made their decision in a fair trial. Did Trudeau scream when OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson walked?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 11:04:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 11:04:54 PM
Pretty much ends the chance of an appeal succeeding.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Politicians need to be silenced over court determinations. It could be construed as contempt of court.
The jury made their decision in a fair trial. Did Trudeau scream when OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson walked?
There have been Aboriginals acquitted of murder too, but there were no meetings with the federal cabinet by families of the person killed.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 11:50:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2018, 11:50:56 PM
Forget that a Canadian courtroom has a sacrosanct standing in our democracy equal to that of any legislative assembly in our land.
This apparently matters squat.
The court of public opinion is without status, of course, but the one grabbing the headlines today, and erupting on the social media — with Justin Trudeau, Justice Minister Jody Wilson-raybould, and Indigenous Services Minister Jane Philpott waist deep in it — has Gerald Stanley as guilty as hell in the shooting death of 22-year-old Colten Boushie, a Cree.
If Stanley had not been hustled out of the courtroom under protective guard, he would have likely been lynched.
No one was buying the shooting as an "accident."
The case had been described from the outset as a "flashpoint in the relationship between Indigenous and non-indigenous people in Saskatchewan," and, in the court of public opinion, Gerald Stanley deserved to be in jail, not returning home to his farm.
The jury, for all intents and purposes, was nothing more than a pack of rural racists, and the acquittal a foregone conclusion.
So, what was said in the wake of the jury's verdict?
Well, Justin Trudeau, tweeted this from Los Angeles.
"I can't image the grief and sorrow the Boushie family is feeling tonight," he wrote. "Sending love to them from the U.S."
Judy Wilson-raybould tweeted her sympathy to the Boushie family, stating that she is "committed to working everyday to ensure justice for all Canada" — the clear insinuation being, of course, that a jury's acquittal of Stanley was not justice at all.
But Jane Philpott held nothing back.
"Devastating news tonight for the family & friends of #Coltenboushie," she tweeted. "My thoughts and prayers are with you in your time of grief & pain. We have more to do to improve justice & fairness for Indigenous Canadians."
To Jane Philpott, therefore, our justice system sucks.
It is way out of line for leaders in our federal government, let alone any politician, to so overtly castigate a verdict in a criminal case.
All three — Trudeau, Wilson-raybould and Philpott — should have kept their feelings to themselves and their mouths shut, instead of fanning the flames in what was already a truly tragic case.
As Toronto lawyer Michael Lacy put it to the National Post, and rightfully so, "(A politician) saying anything that amounts to commenting on the correctness of the verdict to improve your public image or ensure an appropriate approval rating, should be criticized in Canada."
If a government does not agree with a court's decision, then it has every right to appeal.
But what now if the Crown does appeal in the Boushie matter, and a new trial is ordered?
There is not a potential juror in Saskatchewan who does not now know that the prime minister, the justice minister, and the minister responsible for Indigenous services, believe that Colten Boushie's family did not get justice, and that Gerald Stanley should be sitting in a jail cell today to await his sentencing hearing.
Thanks to Trudeau and his collaborators, it is only the rarest of souls who now believe Stanley is actually innocent, save perhaps for the jury who deliberated 15 hours before acquitting him.
But even they are likely now having second thoughts.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:22:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:22:09 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
How far do you live from there Herman?Quote from: "Fashionista"
About two hours from the Battlefords where the trial took place.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:33:06 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:33:06 AM
Basically the defense came down to it being an accidental shooting, due to a hang-fire. For those that don't know what a hang-fire is, it's when you pull the trigger, but the primer doesn't ignite and 'shoot' the bullet until later.
Maybe in some old antique firearms this could happen, but Boushie was shot with a modern semi-auto pistol cartridge. I have fired tens of thousands of modern rounds, and have never had a hang fire. Had a few duds, but never a hang fire.
Nonetheless, Boushie did have a loaded .22 in his lap at the time, so the threshold for meeting deadly force was very close to being there, but I do not think it was 100% there, and as such it was a 'bad' shooting, IMHO.
Nonetheless, it's hard for me to feel sorry for some drunken chug that's out causing trouble, and I certainly won't miss him, but I don't think the shooting was legit.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:37:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:37:52 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:40:17 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:40:17 AM
Even if the verdict was the wrong one, the government's words and actions may have prejudiced an appeal.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Not necessarily. The Government is the one that applies for appeals, and appeals have been successful in many other high profile cases...
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:42:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:42:25 AM
Even if the verdict was the wrong one, the government's words and actions may have prejudiced an appeal.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Not necessarily. The Government is the one that applies for appeals...
The crown attorney applies for the appeal not the elected federal government.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:44:20 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:44:20 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:46:38 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:46:38 AM
The crown attorney applies for the appeal not the elected federal government.Quote from: "Fashionista"
You know what I mean though...
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:49:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:49:22 AM
This means it's unlikely the public will ever know the reasoning behind a Saskatchewan jury's decision to acquit Gerald Stanley.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:50:19 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:50:19 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 12:53:49 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 12:53:49 AM
The ITO stated that Boushie's group first visited a neighbouring farm belonging to the Fouhy family, where they "attempted to steal vehicles and items"[5] by trying to smash the window of a truck with a .22 calibre rifle. Cross-Whitstone broke the stock of the rifle in this failed attempt.[10]They then drove unto the Gerald Stanley's property near Biggar, Saskatchewan, in the regional municipality of Glenside,[11][12] which is about 57 kilometres (35 mi) from their home.[13]
When the SUV entered the Stanley property, the father and son were repairing a fence while Gerald Stanley's wife Leesa was mowing the lawn not far away. The SUV occupants first entered a truck belonging to one of Gerald's customers, then mounted an ATV. Stanley's son Sheldon chased them away, and smashed the Ford Escape SUV's windshield with a hammer. The SUV "crashed into Stanley's wife's car and came to a halt".[8]
Stanley took a semi-automatic handgun from his shed, loaded it and "fired warning shots in the air" as Cross-Whitstone and Meechance ran from the ATV and fled the property.[8] Sheldon Stanley went into the house to get his truck keys.[citation needed]
Gerald Stanley then approached the SUV with Boushie in the front passenger seat and Jackson and Wuttunee in the back. Stanley said he saw the lawnmower his wife was using, thought she had been run over, and he tried to turn off the ignition key with his left hand while he was holding his handgun in his right hand. He said the gun went off accidentally. He shot Boushie, who witnesses claim had a loaded .22-caliber rifle between his legs,[14][15] in the "back of the head at point blank range" at about 5:30 pm.[11][16]
the First nations were drunk and on someone elses property trying to steal things. When you do things like that, things are bound to go wrong. And they did.
I guess either the farmer shot him on purpose or accidentally. Since the farmer is innocent until proven guilty and the First nations provoked the entire situation the jury did what they should have done and acquitted.
Even if one disgrees, its not a jury decision way out of whack with the evidence.
What Trudeau is doing reminds me of Obama in the Trayvon Martin case.
Don't forget what is always at play
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:58:52 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 12:58:52 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 01:05:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 01:05:48 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 01:10:43 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 01:10:43 AM
We often do not know what happened at trial, and that's why I like to read every Supreme Court of BC decision, since it's ALL laid out then, clear to see... From divorce to gang murders.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 02:03:43 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 02:03:43 AM
Pretty much ends the chance of an appeal succeeding.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Politicians need to be silenced over court determinations. It could be construed as contempt of court.
The jury made their decision in a fair trial. Did Trudeau scream when OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson walked?
There have been Aboriginals acquitted of murder too, but there were no meetings with the federal cabinet by families of the person killed.
Similarly,
If you look at interracial crime in the US, you can see blacks are way more likely to harm whites than vice versa (see below). Yet often, like the trayvon Martin case, its a big deal when a white guy (actually Hispanic in that case) kills a black guy, never the reverse.
Even more so--If a white cop kills an unarmed white guy, its not news. If a black cop kills an unarmed white guy its not news, But if a white cop kills an unarmed black guy, whoa, lookout, massive shitstorm everywhere.
Its all about the opression narrative, and who is important, all are equal but SOME are MORE equal than others.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 02:07:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 02:07:09 AM
I can't recall our federal government showing such bias in a criminal case.
They should stay out of it.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:11:15 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:11:15 AM
Stop acting like Niggers, whatever your colour or culture is, and maybe you just go through life with fewer problems.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:21:55 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:21:55 AM
Question I ask is, why weren't his friends charged? They were stealing too. Why didn't they leave the scene after 2 warning shots were fired?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 02:26:28 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 02:26:28 AM
Trudeau is pandering, he figures if he does this it will help his party get more of the native vote. Sad and inappropriate, but that's what A-hole leftist politicians do.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:26:37 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:26:37 AM
To them, being a Nigger is some sort of goal to emulate.
The shooting was bad, but as I state, the outcome was good.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:33:38 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:33:38 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:43:50 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:43:50 AM
White=Bad. Not White?=Great!
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:50:03 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:50:03 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:50:54 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 02:50:54 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:53:48 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 02:53:48 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 03:03:36 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 03:03:36 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 03:11:40 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 14, 2018, 03:11:40 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 10:40:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 10:40:25 AM
JT is an idiot. He has no business being involved with this case.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm sickened they are turning it into a racial issue. So what then....it's ok for natives to get drunk and steal and act like punks? This is the message I'm getting. I'm sorry he died but, fuck man, maybe teach your kids not to be shit heads...maybe don't be shit heads in front of your kids so they carry the tradition. Being poor is no excuse....I don't have a whole lot of money and my kid doesn't act like an idiot...I go out of my to make sure she grows up to be civilized with her head on her shoulders.
That is what bothers me..
The jury must be racist because they are Caucasian.
If an all Aboriginal jury had convicted Gerald Stanley would Justin Trudeau have met with Stanley's family?
We all know the answer is no.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
no matter where you come down on the shooting being legit or not. Its obvious that the first nations group were, drunk, trespassing and there to steal stuff. Had they not done that, no one would have been shot (accidentally or not.)Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Trudeau is pandering, he figures if he does this it will help his party get more of the native vote. Sad and inappropriate, but that's what A-hole leftist politicians do.
Most Indians typically vote NDP. Justine is trying to change that with pandering to such an extent that he interferes with a criminal case.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
no matter where you come down on the shooting being legit or not. Its obvious that the first nations group were, drunk, trespassing and there to steal stuff. Had they not done that, no one would have been shot (accidentally or not.)Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Trudeau is pandering, he figures if he does this it will help his party get more of the native vote. Sad and inappropriate, but that's what A-hole leftist politicians do.
Most Indians typically vote NDP. Justine is trying to change that with pandering to such an extent that he interferes with a criminal case.
I see that the NDP leader also weighed in too
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh...tweeted "There was no justice for Colten Boushie,".... Singh further tweeted: "We must confront the legacy of colonialism and genocide so (Indigenous youth) can see a brighter future for themselves."
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 01:47:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 01:47:15 PM
no matter where you come down on the shooting being legit or not. Its obvious that the first nations group were, drunk, trespassing and there to steal stuff. Had they not done that, no one would have been shot (accidentally or not.)Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Trudeau is pandering, he figures if he does this it will help his party get more of the native vote. Sad and inappropriate, but that's what A-hole leftist politicians do.
Most Indians typically vote NDP. Justine is trying to change that with pandering to such an extent that he interferes with a criminal case.
I see that the NDP leader also weighed in too
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh...tweeted "There was no justice for Colten Boushie,".... Singh further tweeted: "We must confront the legacy of colonialism and genocide so (Indigenous youth) can see a brighter future for themselves."http://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-stoking-fiery-division-over-the-boushie-verdict-doesnt-show-you-care
Another politician accusing the jury of racial bias without any proof.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
The trial verdict in the killing of Colten Boushie could tempt the Trudeau government to make reforms to the justice system.
In the spring of 2016, when the sexual assault trial of former CBC host Jian Ghomeshi failed to produce the verdict the Trudeau government wanted, the government decided to change the law to make it even harder for men to defend themselves against rape allegations.
Canada at the time already had one of the toughest "rape shields" in the world – a set of laws and judicial precedents that made it difficult to raise a woman's past sexual behaviour in court, thereby making it harder for a defendant to establish the alleged victim had given consent.
I wouldn't trust Ghomeshi around my wife or daughter, but that's not the point.
Because his defence lawyers had used his accusers' emails and texts to expose serious inconsistencies between the accusers' post attack behaviour towards Ghomeshi and the claims they were making to police and prosecutors, the Trudeau Liberals changed Canadian law to make it very difficult to introduce an alleged victim's electronic communications "of a sexual nature" or "for a sexual purpose." This made it even harder than it had been for an accused to establish he had reasonable grounds to believe the alleged victim had consented.
The underlying message of the amendments was: Due process and reasonable doubt are unimportant next to social justice for women. Therefore, it's justifiable to stack the deck to make sure that when men are accused, they are found guilt.
Now in the wake of the Gerald Stanley verdict in Saskatchewan, are we headed for a similar Liberal deckstacking against those accused of crimes against Indigenous people?
Since Stanley's acquittal in the tragic shooting death of a young Cree man named Colten Boushie, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau can't stop talking and tweeting about how Indigenous Canadians deserve better from our justice system.
So, then, are we headed for Gladue 2.0?
Indigenous people are more than three times as likely as non-indigenous people to be victims of violent crime. However, in at least 70 per cent of those cases (and possibly more), their attackers are other Indigenous people.
And as for the claim that the Stanley jury was biased because it contained no Indigenous jurors, so therefore the Criminal Code should be amended to eliminate the defence's right to automatically exclude jurors, remember that can cut both ways.
Just as defence lawyers can use peremptory rules to exclude jurors they believe might be sympathetic to victims — such as Indigenous jurors may have been in this case — so too can prosecutors and defence lawyers use the rules to keep out bigots and hardline jurors who might be biased the other way when the defendant is Indigenous.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 03:05:45 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 03:05:45 PM
BTW there are lots of whites who "don't get justice." I know it wasn't canada, but Look at the Steinle verdict. An illegal alien, someone who is not even supposed to be here, and a many time criminal, wasn't defending his property, he was out in a crowd playing with a gun he stole, when he shot kate Steinle, a person who wasn't trying to rob anybody, but was just walking along.
Now tell me, who got more ripped off kate Steinle or Colton Boushie?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 09:14:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 09:14:52 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 10:15:05 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 14, 2018, 10:15:05 PM
Most likely if I were juror I would have sided with the farmer. And had it been drunk white people trespassing and stealing from a native farmer I would have sided with the native farmer too. I don't think sending a man protecting his property who has probably never broken a law to jail for ten years would be justice. Especially when his story could be true, I have experienced hangfire myself. Its also easy to shoot without meaning to, if your finger is not over the trigger guard.
At the trial apparently the first nations accounts were very inconsistent and some even admitted lying. Also the shell casing found in the car had an odd bulge, thus possibly corroborating the hangfire story.
Question for anyone--compare the Kate Steinle verdict and this one and tell me which is worse.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 10:23:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2018, 10:23:41 PM
"Almost half of the prospective jurors in the Colten Boushie case were Aboriginal persons, according to one member of the jury pool. However, the reason there were no Aboriginal Canadians on the jury in this controversial case is because so many deliberately opted out of the process. Other First Nations prospective jurors, meanwhile, were openly and outwardly biased during the selection process, according to one prospective juror who spoke to the Sun."Quote
The prospective juror says more than half of the 100 or so prospective Aboriginal jurors were granted exemptions, and were then able to head home, leaving about 45 Aboriginal prospective jurors.
There were also some very disturbing details revealed by the prospective juror:
"As the prospective jury describes, some of the remaining 45 or so were vocal in expressing their bias and signalling to everyone in the room they were unfit to serve on the jury. "You could audibly hear some of them talking amongst themselves, discussing how they were going to hang Stanley, or they were going to make sure he gets hung, or that if they don't get the results they want, that they were going to handle it themselves," the person said of the Aboriginal people who remained. This account comes from one individual who spoke with the Sun, and has not yet been corroborated by other witnesses."
This is exactly why our justice system gives the defence the right to challenge and reject jurors. What Trudeau seems to have forgotten – or is purposely ignoring – is that our system starts with a presumption of innocence, and is not designed to make politically-motivated convictions.
As we can see, while no system is perfect, it seems our jury selection process is working as it is intended too.
Imagine if the system is changed and a similar situation happens, except the defence can't challenge jurors who may be massively biased. People would be convicted even if that conviction is based on anger and bias, instead of facts.
That would destroy any remaining credibility our justice system has, and turn it into an injustice system. By acting based on temporary emotion and virtue-signalling, the Trudeau government is putting our entire system of justice in serious peril.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 11:35:33 PM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 14, 2018, 11:35:33 PM
I don't think sending a man protecting his property who has probably never broken a law to jail for ten years would be justice.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
The problem with Canadian law is, we can only protect our actual dwelling using force. This allowable use of force typically does not extent to your outside property.
It would be nice if it did, as it does in some (all?) US States, but trying to protect anything other than your actual dwelling is a risky move in Canada.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
They had no business going public with their concerns and throwing the justice system under the bus.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 07:02:14 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 07:02:14 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 01:05:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 01:05:43 PM
In Saskatoon, about a month before the Stanley trial, an Indigenous woman who killed four white people, including two children, in a drunken car accident was sentenced to 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to her crimes.Quote
no jury was therefore involved. She confessed to being drunk, running a stoplight, and hitting a car broadside.
Within one month of her sentencing, however, Catharine Mckay was transferred to the minimumsecurity Okimaw Ohein Healing Lodge, a facility that incorporates aboriginal teachings into its rehab programs, and has residential houses instead of cellblocks — compete with supervised day release.
It is not exactly hard time, but nor is it uncommon.
but you will not find a liberal bitching about this special and selective treatment given only to the Indigenous.
regional health counsellor and residential school survivor, Grant Severight, noted that Mckay didn't wake up that morning with any intention of drinking herself to near oblivion, jumping into her car, and killing an innocent family of four.
but there should also be no doubt that Stanley didn't wake up on his day and expect a carload of kids who had been drinking to wheel up to his house on the pretext of a having a flat tire as one of boushie's pals went off to try to boost an ATV.
In fact, it likely never crossed his mind until all hell broke loose, and by then it was too late.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:17:41 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:17:41 AM
Here are some interesting things that happened in the jury selection.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Just wait until the Western Nations flood the jury selections with non-whites, due to 'forced preference'...
I'm glad I'll be dead by then! No future anywhere for the White Man anymore.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:23:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:23:41 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:30:32 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:30:32 AM
Maybe Europe for White people, Africa for Blacks, and Asia for Yellows.
Realistically, that's perhaps the best solution.
Give North America back to the fucking useless chugs, so they can run after each other with spears.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:50:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:50:58 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:53:59 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:53:59 AM
Eventually Whitey can be brought down! Maybe Scouse was right! We do need our own White homeland! And I'm not fucking joking! Sometime in the future, we will need one.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 01:55:54 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 01:55:54 AM
I don't think sending a man protecting his property who has probably never broken a law to jail for ten years would be justice.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
The problem with Canadian law is, we can only protect our actual dwelling using force. This allowable use of force typically does not extent to your outside property.
It would be nice if it did, as it does in some (all?) US States, but trying to protect anything other than your actual dwelling is a risky move in Canada.
There aren't many states left which allow for self defence outside of the door. I believe Texas still pays a bounty (victim relief payment) if one plugs a thief or assailant in the front or back if they're fleeing. Most other states need the assailant inside the threshold. Some states turn a blind eye if it's just before the threshold and their body is dragged in a bit before the pigs arrive.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:58:01 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:58:01 AM
And that doesn't mean you can just shoot them... It means you can use lethal force to protect yourself, your home, and your property, if you are being threatened with harm on your own land.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 02:07:32 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 02:07:32 AM
No outcry about injustice for the faimily of four from Trudeau or Raybold.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In Saskatoon, about a month before the Stanley trial, an Indigenous woman who killed four white people, including two children, in a drunken car accident was sentenced to 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to her crimes.Quote
no jury was therefore involved. She confessed to being drunk, running a stoplight, and hitting a car broadside.
Within one month of her sentencing, however, Catharine Mckay was transferred to the minimumsecurity Okimaw Ohein Healing Lodge, a facility that incorporates aboriginal teachings into its rehab programs, and has residential houses instead of cellblocks — compete with supervised day release.
It is not exactly hard time, but nor is it uncommon.
but you will not find a liberal bitching about this special and selective treatment given only to the Indigenous.
regional health counsellor and residential school survivor, Grant Severight, noted that Mckay didn't wake up that morning with any intention of drinking herself to near oblivion, jumping into her car, and killing an innocent family of four.
but there should also be no doubt that Stanley didn't wake up on his day and expect a carload of kids who had been drinking to wheel up to his house on the pretext of a having a flat tire as one of boushie's pals went off to try to boost an ATV.
In fact, it likely never crossed his mind until all hell broke loose, and by then it was too late.
If the lefties have their way. their "reforms" may satisfy the Canadian aborigines, by making it harder for whites to get justice when natives are in the wrong. the left won't mind that scenario though.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 02:11:15 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 02:11:15 AM
In Canada, you are permitted to use 'as much force as is necessary' to stop someone from entering your dwelling. Does this mean that you can shoot someone for trying to break in?
NO! You cannot!
This is a very technical aspect of law, not only in Canada, but in the States also. You cannot just bust out the .44 Magnum and fire away.
Not even in the US could you do that. There are certain requirements that must, at the very least, be present before the .44 Mag heats up the hearts and asses of some trash scum.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 02:23:32 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 02:23:32 AM
Easy to grab and deploy. If that doesn't burn their eyes, I have other methods to deal with them.
I don't ever want to deal with a shooting. It's a big problem to even be associated with one.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 10:20:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 10:20:25 AM
No outcry about injustice for the faimily of four from Trudeau or Raybold.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In Saskatoon, about a month before the Stanley trial, an Indigenous woman who killed four white people, including two children, in a drunken car accident was sentenced to 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to her crimes.Quote
no jury was therefore involved. She confessed to being drunk, running a stoplight, and hitting a car broadside.
Within one month of her sentencing, however, Catharine Mckay was transferred to the minimumsecurity Okimaw Ohein Healing Lodge, a facility that incorporates aboriginal teachings into its rehab programs, and has residential houses instead of cellblocks — compete with supervised day release.
It is not exactly hard time, but nor is it uncommon.
but you will not find a liberal bitching about this special and selective treatment given only to the Indigenous.
regional health counsellor and residential school survivor, Grant Severight, noted that Mckay didn't wake up that morning with any intention of drinking herself to near oblivion, jumping into her car, and killing an innocent family of four.
but there should also be no doubt that Stanley didn't wake up on his day and expect a carload of kids who had been drinking to wheel up to his house on the pretext of a having a flat tire as one of boushie's pals went off to try to boost an ATV.
In fact, it likely never crossed his mind until all hell broke loose, and by then it was too late.
If the lefties have their way. their "reforms" may satisfy the Canadian aborigines, by making it harder for whites to get justice when natives are in the wrong. the left won't mind that scenario though.
The federal government was looking at different justice options for convicted Aboriginals even before the Stanley case in Saskatchewan.
Federal study touts separate indigenous sentencing system
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
No outcry about injustice for the faimily of four from Trudeau or Raybold.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In Saskatoon, about a month before the Stanley trial, an Indigenous woman who killed four white people, including two children, in a drunken car accident was sentenced to 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to her crimes.Quote
no jury was therefore involved. She confessed to being drunk, running a stoplight, and hitting a car broadside.
Within one month of her sentencing, however, Catharine Mckay was transferred to the minimumsecurity Okimaw Ohein Healing Lodge, a facility that incorporates aboriginal teachings into its rehab programs, and has residential houses instead of cellblocks — compete with supervised day release.
It is not exactly hard time, but nor is it uncommon.
but you will not find a liberal bitching about this special and selective treatment given only to the Indigenous.
regional health counsellor and residential school survivor, Grant Severight, noted that Mckay didn't wake up that morning with any intention of drinking herself to near oblivion, jumping into her car, and killing an innocent family of four.
but there should also be no doubt that Stanley didn't wake up on his day and expect a carload of kids who had been drinking to wheel up to his house on the pretext of a having a flat tire as one of boushie's pals went off to try to boost an ATV.
In fact, it likely never crossed his mind until all hell broke loose, and by then it was too late.
If the lefties have their way. their "reforms" may satisfy the Canadian aborigines, by making it harder for whites to get justice when natives are in the wrong. the left won't mind that scenario though.
The federal government was looking at different justice options for convicted Aboriginals even before the Stanley case in Saskatchewan.
Federal study touts separate indigenous sentencing systemhttps://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-study-touts-separate-indigenous-sentencing-system-1.3198796
So basically they will give lighter sentences to aboriginal criminals, which will make for more violent criminals running loose, which will make life worse for everyone (except the criminals).
BTW You can bet if aboriginals get some sort of special sentencing treatment, Muslims will ask a for a shariah system for their people too, and probably get it.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 12:11:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 12:11:19 PM
No outcry about injustice for the faimily of four from Trudeau or Raybold.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In Saskatoon, about a month before the Stanley trial, an Indigenous woman who killed four white people, including two children, in a drunken car accident was sentenced to 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to her crimes.Quote
no jury was therefore involved. She confessed to being drunk, running a stoplight, and hitting a car broadside.
Within one month of her sentencing, however, Catharine Mckay was transferred to the minimumsecurity Okimaw Ohein Healing Lodge, a facility that incorporates aboriginal teachings into its rehab programs, and has residential houses instead of cellblocks — compete with supervised day release.
It is not exactly hard time, but nor is it uncommon.
but you will not find a liberal bitching about this special and selective treatment given only to the Indigenous.
regional health counsellor and residential school survivor, Grant Severight, noted that Mckay didn't wake up that morning with any intention of drinking herself to near oblivion, jumping into her car, and killing an innocent family of four.
but there should also be no doubt that Stanley didn't wake up on his day and expect a carload of kids who had been drinking to wheel up to his house on the pretext of a having a flat tire as one of boushie's pals went off to try to boost an ATV.
In fact, it likely never crossed his mind until all hell broke loose, and by then it was too late.
If the lefties have their way. their "reforms" may satisfy the Canadian aborigines, by making it harder for whites to get justice when natives are in the wrong. the left won't mind that scenario though.
The federal government was looking at different justice options for convicted Aboriginals even before the Stanley case in Saskatchewan.
Federal study touts separate indigenous sentencing systemhttps://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-study-touts-separate-indigenous-sentencing-system-1.3198796
So basically they will give lighter sentences to aboriginal criminals, which will make for more violent criminals running loose, which will make life worse for everyone (except the criminals).
BTW You can bet if aboriginals get some sort of special sentencing treatment, Muslims will ask a for a shariah system for their people too, and probably get it.
Shariah is on it's way after Trudeau is reelected.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 21, 2018, 02:28:14 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 21, 2018, 02:28:14 AM
So basically they will give lighter sentences to aboriginal criminals, which will make for more violent criminals running loose, which will make life worse for everyone (except the criminals).Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Essentially. Canadian justice has, for some time now, been forced to take into account whether an offender is a Native Indian come sentencing time.
What I have found, when reading case law, is that after a few chances with their 'healing circles' and the 'help of their elders,' they just keep doing what they do, and end up in the clink anyhow, since rotten is rotten no matter how many chances it is given.
Of course, the Indians are no different than the Blacks... They feel that they should be allowed to do what they want, both legal and illegal, and it's only Whities fault that they are hassled when they break the law.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
Trial lasted just over 3 weeks, defence did not call any evidence.
A jury has found Raymond Cormier not guilty of second-degree murder in the death of Tina Fontaine.
After the verdict was delivered, people in the crowd burst into tears and gasps of disbelief were heard from members of the teen girl's family and supporters. Her biological mother, Valentina Duck, swore at Cormier before walking out of the courtroom.
Within minutes of the verdict, Indigenous leaders in Manitoba criticized the systems that they say failed.
"This is a very difficult and tremendously sad day for our people," said Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak Grand Chief Sheila North, on the steps of the courthouse.
"This is not the outcome anybody wanted. The systems, everything that was involved in Tina's life, failed her. We've all failed her. We as a nation need to do better for our young people.
Southern Chiefs Organization Grand Chief Jerry Daniels called on every member of Canadian society to work together to improve things for Indigenous people.
"Every single member of this country and this province is responsible for what's happening here today, and you have to stand up and take part in making reconciliation a reality. It is about all of us," he said.
Federal Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett reacted to news of the verdict in a tweet.
"My thoughts are with Tina Fontaine's family. Tina's is a tragic story that demonstrates the failures of all the systems for Indigenous children and youth on every level. We need to do better — we need to fix this," she wrote.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 22, 2018, 11:39:29 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 22, 2018, 11:39:29 PM
Shariah is on it's wayafter Trudeau is reelected.
I dunno about that...he's really pissing a lot of people off...
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 11:41:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 11:41:32 PM
Shariah is on it's wayafter Trudeau is reelected.
I dunno about that...he's really pissing a lot of people off...
He'll win almost every seat in Quebec and the maritimes. It's mathematically impossible for the NDP or Conservatives to beat him.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 22, 2018, 11:54:16 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 22, 2018, 11:54:16 PM
Shariah is on it's wayafter Trudeau is reelected.
I dunno about that...he's really pissing a lot of people off...
He'll win almost every seat in Quebec and the maritimes. It's mathematically impossible for the NDP or Conservatives to beat him.
A win that big might make him think he can do anything he wants.
Look out.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 11:57:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 11:57:25 PM
Shariah is on it's wayafter Trudeau is reelected.
I dunno about that...he's really pissing a lot of people off...
He'll win almost every seat in Quebec and the maritimes. It's mathematically impossible for the NDP or Conservatives to beat him.
A win that big might make him think he can do anything he wants.
Look out.
He won 39.5 per cent of the vote and a solid majority in 2015 and he is acting like the people don't matter. Funny, Stephen Harper won 39.6 of the vote in 2011 and he was accused by JT of imposing his will on the nation.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 23, 2018, 12:01:24 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 23, 2018, 12:01:24 AM
Shariah is on it's wayafter Trudeau is reelected.
I dunno about that...he's really pissing a lot of people off...
He'll win almost every seat in Quebec and the maritimes. It's mathematically impossible for the NDP or Conservatives to beat him.
We shall see when the time comes what nuckle heads are running....anything is possible. I want JT out.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 23, 2018, 12:03:32 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 23, 2018, 12:03:32 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:05:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:05:26 AM
Shariah is on it's wayafter Trudeau is reelected.
I dunno about that...he's really pissing a lot of people off...
He'll win almost every seat in Quebec and the maritimes. It's mathematically impossible for the NDP or Conservatives to beat him.
We shall see when the time comes what nuckle heads are running....anything is possible. I want JT out.
The leaders of the parties today will lead them into an election next fall. It will be Jagmeet Singh for the dippers, Andrew Scheer for the Conservatives and of course our fearless leader JT.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:08:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:08:57 AM
It's all gone to his head. Have you seen all the stupid photo ops of him in India? Just ridiculous!Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
That doesn't bother me. But the excessive new regulations for reource development and export infrastructure are costing the national economy between $50 and $100 million dollars per day. That's a lot of good paying jobs lost. And then there's the new national carbonehead tax which will rise to $50 per tonne by the end of 2022. He's killing the middle class.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 23, 2018, 12:20:34 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 23, 2018, 12:20:34 AM
It's all gone to his head. Have you seen all the stupid photo ops of him in India? Just ridiculous!Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
That doesn't bother me. But the excessive new regulations for reource development and export infrastructure are costing the national economy between $50 and $100 million dollars per day. That's a lot of good paying jobs lost. And then there's the new national carbonehead tax which will rise to $50 per tonne by the end of 2022. He's killing the middle class.
SB how much does the carbon tax come out to per family? Its hard to wrap my head around the $50 tonne figure.
And how is it levied? through gas taxes, or home heating taxes or income taxes or some other way?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 23, 2018, 12:26:40 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 23, 2018, 12:26:40 AM
It's all gone to his head. Have you seen all the stupid photo ops of him in India? Just ridiculous!Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
That doesn't bother me. But the excessive new regulations for reource development and export infrastructure are costing the national economy between $50 and $100 million dollars per day. That's a lot of good paying jobs lost. And then there's the new national carbonehead tax which will rise to $50 per tonne by the end of 2022. He's killing the middle class.
It bothers me. He's Canadian, act like one. Don't have to dress up as every other culture and kiss ass.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:32:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:32:06 AM
It's all gone to his head. Have you seen all the stupid photo ops of him in India? Just ridiculous!Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
That doesn't bother me. But the excessive new regulations for reource development and export infrastructure are costing the national economy between $50 and $100 million dollars per day. That's a lot of good paying jobs lost. And then there's the new national carbonehead tax which will rise to $50 per tonne by the end of 2022. He's killing the middle class.
SB how much does the carbon tax come out to per family? Its hard to wrap my head around the $50 tonne figure.
And how is it levied? through gas taxes, or home heating taxes or income taxes or some other way?
I don't know about $50 per tonne, but Alberta's carbon tax just increased on Jan 1/2018 to $30 per tonned after being introduced Jan 1/2017 at $20. It has raided the price of gasoline 9 cents per litre, the cost of electricity, the cost of heating homes and businesses and even property taxes because schools require heat and buses.
I read that it could mean the average family four will pay an additional $1600 per year after tax for everything to heat their home, run their appliances and anything that moves by truck, train, plane or ship. Not to mention the deleterious affect on our exports.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 23, 2018, 12:39:02 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 23, 2018, 12:39:02 AM
It's all gone to his head. Have you seen all the stupid photo ops of him in India? Just ridiculous!Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
That doesn't bother me. But the excessive new regulations for reource development and export infrastructure are costing the national economy between $50 and $100 million dollars per day. That's a lot of good paying jobs lost. And then there's the new national carbonehead tax which will rise to $50 per tonne by the end of 2022. He's killing the middle class.
SB how much does the carbon tax come out to per family? Its hard to wrap my head around the $50 tonne figure.
And how is it levied? through gas taxes, or home heating taxes or income taxes or some other way?
I don't know about $50 per tonne, but Alberta's carbon tax just increased on Jan 1/2018 to $30 per tonned after being introduced Jan 1/2017 at $20. It has raided the price of gasoline 9 cents per litre, the cost of electricity, the cost of heating homes and businesses and even property taxes because schools require heat and buses.
I read that it could mean the average family four will pay an additional $1600 per year after tax for everything to heat their home, run their appliances and anything that moves by truck, train, plane or ship. Not to mention the deleterious affect on our exports.
Wow. yeah $1600 is a serious bite out of the wallet. if I were his opposition I would run on that. But I guess in canada everybody in every party is for the carbon tax (correct me if I'm wrong) so that won't happen
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:54:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 12:54:50 AM
Wow. yeah $1600 is a serious bite out of the wallet. if I were his opposition I would run on that. But I guess in canada everybody in every party is for the carbon tax (correct me if I'm wrong) so that won't happen
We have a provincial election in June. No party opposes what the pain Trudeau wants to inflict on the masses. On the contrary, they are all trying to buy votes with other people's money. Federally, the leader of the Tories, Andrew Scheer has said he would leave it up to the provinces.
Truthfully, there is no fiscally conservative alternative in this country. They are all giddy about a new hidden tax they can raise without people knowing about it, unlike the GST.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 01:53:39 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 01:53:39 AM
It bothers me. He's Canadian, act like one. Don't have to dress up as every other culture and kiss ass.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Even the East Indians are telling him to cut it out...
When you are being 'too Roman' for even Rome, it's time to cut out the cultural ass-kissing, Justin, and just wear normal Western fucking clothes.
Fucking politicians will easily sink to the levels of the low...
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:03:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:03:16 AM
It bothers me. He's Canadian, act like one. Don't have to dress up as every other culture and kiss ass.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Even the East Indians are telling him to cut it out...
When you are being 'too Roman' for even Rome, it's time to cut out the cultural ass-kissing, Justin, and just wear normal Western fucking clothes.
Fucking politicians will easily sink to the levels of the low...
This is the first time I've ever seen our pm mocked on a foreign trip.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:06:45 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:06:45 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:16:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:16:29 AM
When you try TOO HARD to please everybody, you end up pleasing no one. I hope Justin has learned this...Quote from: "Angry White Male"
I doubt it....remember peoplekind.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:18:29 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:18:29 AM
He's not that dumb, but he's really trying too hard to please the ultra-left, the minorities, and the LGBTQUSTYSDOPWBNW community... TOO hard!
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 06:18:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 06:18:01 PM
He said he was joking.
He's not that dumb, but he's really trying too hard to please the ultra-left, the minorities, and the LGBTQUSTYSDOPWBNW community... TOO hard!
After he was pilloried.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 26, 2018, 04:11:51 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 26, 2018, 04:11:51 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 26, 2018, 04:28:57 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 26, 2018, 04:28:57 PM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Your posts suck. You're a pathetic attempt at being a troll.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2018, 09:33:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2018, 09:33:18 PM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Your posts suck. You're a pathetic attempt at being a troll.
Joak does suck.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 27, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 27, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
This is a good life lesson. Tell young native adults (or any young adults) not to get drunk and drive onto other people's property and vandalise and steal and they'll probably live longer.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 01:55:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 01:55:24 PM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
This is a good life lesson. Tell young native adults (or any young adults) not to get drunk and drive onto other people's property and vandalise and steal and they'll probably live longer.
Would Gerald Stanley have been charged if this happened in the USA?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 27, 2018, 09:21:52 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 27, 2018, 09:21:52 PM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
This is a good life lesson. Tell young native adults (or any young adults) not to get drunk and drive onto other people's property and vandalise and steal and they'll probably live longer.
Would Gerald Stanley have been charged if this happened in the USA?
No doubt he would have been. Although different states vary on property rights and use of deadly force.
But I bet your kids wouldn't go get drunk, trespass on peoples property, and vandalize and steal from them. Mine wouldn't either, (at least they better not and if they do they better get ready for hell to rain down on them.)
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
This is a good life lesson. Tell young native adults (or any young adults) not to get drunk and drive onto other people's property and vandalise and steal and they'll probably live longer.
Would Gerald Stanley have been charged if this happened in the USA?
No doubt he would have been. Although different states vary on property rights and use of deadly force.
But I bet your kids wouldn't go get drunk, trespass on peoples property, and vandalize and steal from them. Mine wouldn't either, (at least they better not and if they do they better get ready for hell to rain down on them.)
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
Don't hold your breath brother.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on February 28, 2018, 12:57:43 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 28, 2018, 12:57:43 AM
That poor native boy was killed in such a horrible fashion. His family must be still ini mourning.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
This is a good life lesson. Tell young native adults (or any young adults) not to get drunk and drive onto other people's property and vandalise and steal and they'll probably live longer.
Would Gerald Stanley have been charged if this happened in the USA?
No doubt he would have been. Although different states vary on property rights and use of deadly force.
But I bet your kids wouldn't go get drunk, trespass on peoples property, and vandalize and steal from them. Mine wouldn't either, (at least they better not and if they do they better get ready for hell to rain down on them.)
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
Don't hold your breath brother.
Yeah that'll happen the day when blacks in America do the same thing.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 28, 2018, 04:11:15 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 28, 2018, 04:11:15 AM
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on March 02, 2018, 02:17:03 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 02, 2018, 02:17:03 AM
With the indigenous canadian population growing at 4 times the rate of the non indegenous population things may unfortunately get worse.
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 09:27:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 09:27:18 AM
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.https://globalnews.ca/news/3823772/canadas-growing-indigenous-population/
A lot more people are identifying as Aboriginal.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.https://globalnews.ca/news/3823772/canadas-growing-indigenous-population/
Lots of Indian gals have three kids by three different men by the time they are twenty three.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on March 02, 2018, 12:39:30 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 02, 2018, 12:39:30 PM
Seems like aborginal canadians and American blacks are similar in many ways.
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.https://globalnews.ca/news/3823772/canadas-growing-indigenous-population/
Lots of Indian gals have three kids by three different men by the time they are twenty three.
BTW one curious difference is that Aborginal Canadians (especially inuits) have a high suicide rate (along with Australian aborigines) whereas black Americans have a very low suicide rate, much lower than American whites.
but the suicide phenpomonen didn't exist in Australian aboriginal culture until the 80s and has steadily increased since then.
Also another strange phenomena-- the incredibly high amount of suicide among inuits
but the inuit suicide phenomenon didn't exist until the 70s and steadily increased until 2000 where it leveled off a bit.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 03:18:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 03:18:02 PM
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.https://globalnews.ca/news/3823772/canadas-growing-indigenous-population/
Lots of Indian gals have three kids by three different men by the time they are twenty three.
And at least one of them was from being raped by a friend or relative of the family.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Wazzzup on March 02, 2018, 04:15:42 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 02, 2018, 04:15:42 PM
Natives need to look at themeslves as well in all this, and how they are raising their kids, not just say they were victimized and call it a day.
They really need to address their issues. They never will. It's always easier for them to point at others for blame, scream racism and damand money.
I'm beginning to see the Natives as a hopeless case.https://globalnews.ca/news/3823772/canadas-growing-indigenous-population/
Lots of Indian gals have three kids by three different men by the time they are twenty three.
And at least one of them was from being raped by a friend or relative of the family.
in my looking around I found this too
Wow
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 02, 2018, 05:34:42 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 02, 2018, 05:34:42 PM
What I don't get is they want to be independant within their own communities but yet they continue to want the Canadian government to babysit their children. The problems begin at home. I don't question these children's motives...I question the parents motives. They are alcoholics and addicts themselves, unable to take care of and raise their children properly. This is NOT the fault of the government, It's their own fault. Maybe stop drinking and doing drugs and raise their kids properly. Pay attention to them. Care for them.
Ffs. My own kid is part native and I don't have anywhere near these problems. I'm not native. But I don't drink and do drugs. I pay attention to my kid. I put her in activities and help her with her home work. My kid has been sick for the past week and hasn't been in school...she was in ER last night...cause I cared about her well being and helped her to get better....this whole time she was sick and not in school she was worried about her studies and falling behind...so I have been in contact thru email with her HR teacher, who is giving her extensions on essays...I also went down to the school today to speak with her teacher and pick up the missed work she can complete at home. And she has been working on her studies while she was sick.
It's as simple as that. Paying attention to them and giving them expectations to reach, goals. And she strives for it. Being a parent is being a leader. Kids follow by example. I'm proud of my kid.
Unlike the rest of the natives, I don't expect the government to babysit my kid and make sure they are ok. I strongly question all these natives what goes on in their homes. Why are their parents not taking care of them? Why are they running away? Why are the parents not doing anything to get their kids back from being under ministry Care? The best place for anyone's child is in their home with their own biological parents. My advice to natives is to grow the fuck up and take control of their own lives.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on March 03, 2018, 03:27:06 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on March 03, 2018, 03:27:06 AM
They blame White man, yet they take every single fucking thing White man will give them!
You know what's funny? Injuns think they're Black, with their Compton hats and shit...
That is rich... Compton. I guess they feel repressed, like the Niggers in Compton. The same Niggers that were 'just on their way to enroll at college' when they got shot dead by rival nigger.
When this is what a race looks up to, it is finished. Injuns and Niggers are finished, if it weren't for White people.
I really am sick of this 'forced integration,' and prefer to live amongst Whites. Asians I can handle, as long as they're Chinese Asians like Fash.
White Flight? I am already planning my escape from here.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on March 03, 2018, 03:33:38 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on March 03, 2018, 03:33:38 AM
Yet sports Compton toques, sells drugs, steals from even their own, rapes and kills their own, and then cries about it being because of White man.
I should start wearing a Compton toque also... Just like the Natives in Iqaluit... straight outta Compton, no?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
Spending many hours reading case law,Quote from: "Angry White Male"mitigating circumstancesare certainly an important part in the Canadian Justice System.
We often do not know what happened at trial, and that's why I like to read every Supreme Court of BC decision, since it's ALL laid out then, clear to see... From divorce to gang murders.
Doesn't matter. Rich progtards didn't get the verdict they paid for.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2018, 09:46:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2018, 09:46:39 PM
For farmers like Stanley, it seems break-ins and theft by Red Pheasant First Nation residents were not uncommon.
Twenty years ago, another Baptiste – Colin – took part in the murders of two Saskatchewan farmers a short distance from the Stanley farm. This case is well known to the farmers within the vicinity of the Red Pheasant First Nation.
What happened at the Stanley farm that day is the rural equivalent of a violent urban home invasion. The only real difference is that the next neighbour may be kilometres away and the police could be hours away.
No charges have been laid against the young people who carried out this farm invasion. Why this 'get out of jail free' card for home invaders? Is this a new, and very disturbing, racially-based policy?
Could it have something to do with the fact that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould immediately criticized the criminal justice system? Are they telling the police that there are to be two distinct sets of rules, depending on one's race? Will we be able to find juries to deal with highly-charged cases like this as a result of these thoughtless tweets?
The prime minister seems committed to adding to the legal differences between Indigenous people and the mainstream, instead of trying to dismantle this destructive, divisive system.
What about the way the media described this as a case of young people innocently going onto a farm for help with a flat tire? This is blatantly untrue. This is a case of intoxicated young criminals, armed with a loaded weapon, brazenly entering the property to steal in broad daylight.
What about the families and community leaders on the Red Pheasant First Nation? What are they doing to control their young people?
And why does the federal government continue to fund a corrupt and broken system on reserves, while turning a blind eye to the legitimate safety concerns of citizens on and off those reserves?
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2018, 10:20:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2018, 10:20:30 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on March 31, 2018, 02:13:00 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on March 31, 2018, 02:13:00 AM
Violent crimes by Aboriginals on non Aboriginals are ignored by the prog press and politicians.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
I'll tell you a story...
My Uncle came down to visit from Vernon, so I decided to take him for a drive through Fort Langley. Birthplace of British Columbia.
Get stuck behind a pickup truck full of drunken fucking chugs. Drinking and cursing at everyone. Not at me (maybe they didn't want to fuck with me), but at all tourists, and traffic patterns in this small town.
Fort Langley is a 'touristy' place, and the behaviour that I witnessed from these stupid fucking Indians does nothing but support my belief that these fuckers should have been wiped out completely. They are lucky they weren't.
Disgusting behaviour. Fucking sickening behaviour from this trash.
Where were the Cops? They are told not to touch the fucking Indians, as that would be 'racist.'
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Angry White Male on March 31, 2018, 02:23:45 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on March 31, 2018, 02:23:45 AM
Not even the trashiest Whites would hurl insults and throw beer cans at tourists.
Fucking disgusting race of people. Useless. Serve no purpose whatsoever, and should have been eliminated.
Title: Re: Trudeau has no business interfering with the verdict in the Colten Boushie case
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2018, 05:38:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2018, 05:38:40 AM
Violent crimes by Aboriginals on non Aboriginals are ignored by the prog press and politicians.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
I'll tell you a story...
My Uncle came down to visit from Vernon, so I decided to take him for a drive through Fort Langley. Birthplace of British Columbia.
Get stuck behind a pickup truck full of drunken fucking chugs. Drinking and cursing at everyone. Not at me (maybe they didn't want to fuck with me), but at all tourists, and traffic patterns in this small town.
Fort Langley is a 'touristy' place, and the behaviour that I witnessed from these stupid fucking Indians does nothing but support my belief that these fuckers should have been wiped out completely. They are lucky they weren't.
Disgusting behaviour. Fucking sickening behaviour from this trash.
Where were the Cops? They are told not to touch the fucking Indians, as that would be 'racist.'
I've seen lots of Aboriginals in cars, but none of them were drunk in the back of trucks swearing and throwing beer cans at other vehicles on the road..
I think it's extremely rare.