Title: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 10:07:07 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 10:07:07 PM
"We have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to bear arms"???
With this mentality, you can be sure more massacres are imminent.
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: realgrimm on February 15, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Post by: realgrimm on February 15, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2018, 10:18:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2018, 10:18:18 PM
I am just watching Laura Ingraham on Fox News talking about the fallout from the latest slaughter of American children, and talking against gun control.Quote from: "Bricktop"
"We have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to bear arms"???
With this mentality, you can be sure more massacres are imminent.
People speak off the cuff.
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 10:53:12 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 10:53:12 PM
She reflects what so many of this buffoons say. They have a RIGHT to own, possess and even carry lethal weaponry...so that 30,000 plus die each year from gunshot wounds. Apparently, the 17 children...and the thousands of others slaughtered by gunshot...have no rights.
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 10:58:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 10:58:15 PM
Fucking Americans just cannot see the insanity they've created, and which will get worse and worse.
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2018, 11:05:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2018, 11:05:37 PM
Not a major journalist on her own news hour.Quote from: "Bricktop"
She reflects what so many of this buffoons say. They have a RIGHT to own, possess and even carry lethal weaponry...so that 30,000 plus die each year from gunshot wounds. Apparently, the 17 children...and the thousands of others slaughtered by gunshot...have no rights.
Especially a major journalist on their own news hours. The only person who could out do that is our pm throwing our justice system under the bus in his tweets.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 15, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 16, 2018, 12:37:16 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 16, 2018, 12:37:16 AM
30,000 plus die each year from gunshot wounds. .Quote from: "Bricktop"
That''s a statistic that is somehwhat misleading. As I pointed out 60% of that is suicide.
Also if guns were banned ,would people stop killing other, or would they just beat each other and stab each other etc. instead? I think for the most part,they would.
Also demographics-- I'll give you another example-- In my neighborhood there were no murders this year, putting it at a 0 per 100,000 that's lower than Australia overall. But in the mostly black neghborhood a couple miles away in chicago the murder rate is 159 per 100,000. We have the same legal access to guns they do.
so obviously, Demographics has way more influence on murder rates than access to guns.
Also just something else to throw out there. 1.3 million people die from car accidents every year.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2018, 01:29:26 AM
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2018, 01:29:26 AM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Angry White Male on February 16, 2018, 01:38:53 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 16, 2018, 01:38:53 AM
Brick needs to start taking his meds on time or have them upped.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I almost agree... Brick doesn't understand how the US functions, and even if an attempt were made to curtail such potential violence, it probably wouldn't do any good in the long run anyhow.
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 16, 2018, 01:41:06 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 16, 2018, 01:41:06 AM
30,000 plus die each year from gunshot wounds. .Quote from: "Bricktop"
That''s a statistic that is somehwhat misleading. As I pointed out 60% of that is suicide.
Also if guns were banned ,would people stop killing other, or would they just beat each other and stab each other etc. instead? I think for the most part,they would.
Also demographics-- I'll give you another example-- In my neighborhood there were no murders this year, putting it at a 0 per 100,000 that's lower than Australia overall. But in the mostly black neghborhood a couple miles away in chicago the murder rate is 159 per 100,000. We have the same legal access to guns they do.
so obviously, Demographics has way more influence on murder rates than access to guns.
Also just something else to throw out there. 1.3 million people die from car accidents every year.
Well, it took some time, but again someone came up with the car comparison.
Because people die from car accidents, or industrial accidents, or electrocution or drowning, it does not follow...and there is NO logic...that says possessing guns is therefore OK.
Vehicular accidents are rarely intentional, and are just that - ACCIDENTS. Cars are an essential element of society, and so we accept that there will be mishaps, and do what we must to reduce the chances and harm. We make cars safer. Do we make guns safer? We make it hard to get a licence. Is it hard to get a gun licence? We make a great deal of effort to detect and punish offences committed in a car. Do we make any effort at all to address poor gun behaviour?
Now, if you are going to say that gun fatalities are a black problem, tell that to the kids in school being shot up. Tell it to the concert goers in Las Vegas. Tell it to the folks in the movie theatre. They weren't black.
There is NO argument that recommends gun ownership by civilians. None.
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2018, 02:01:07 AM
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2018, 02:01:07 AM
There is NO argument that recommends gun ownership by civilians. None.
Tell that to Ned Kelly's sister, pig.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 16, 2018, 02:45:58 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 16, 2018, 02:45:58 AM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2018, 03:08:27 AM
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2018, 03:08:27 AM
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 16, 2018, 12:13:46 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 16, 2018, 12:13:46 PM
30,000 plus die each year from gunshot wounds. .Quote from: "Bricktop"
That''s a statistic that is somehwhat misleading. As I pointed out 60% of that is suicide.
Also if guns were banned ,would people stop killing other, or would they just beat each other and stab each other etc. instead? I think for the most part,they would.
Also demographics-- I'll give you another example-- In my neighborhood there were no murders this year, putting it at a 0 per 100,000 that's lower than Australia overall. But in the mostly black neghborhood a couple miles away in chicago the murder rate is 159 per 100,000. We have the same legal access to guns they do.
so obviously, Demographics has way more influence on murder rates than access to guns.
Also just something else to throw out there. 1.3 million people die from car accidents every year.
Well, it took some time, but again someone came up with the car comparison.
Because people die from car accidents, or industrial accidents, or electrocution or drowning, it does not follow...and there is NO logic...that says possessing guns is therefore OK.
Vehicular accidents are rarely intentional, and are just that - ACCIDENTS. Cars are an essential element of society, and so we accept that there will be mishaps, and do what we must to reduce the chances and harm. We make cars safer. Do we make guns safer? We make it hard to get a licence. Is it hard to get a gun licence? We make a great deal of effort to detect and punish offences committed in a car. Do we make any effort at all to address poor gun behaviour?
Now, if you are going to say that gun fatalities are a black problem, tell that to the kids in school being shot up. Tell it to the concert goers in Las Vegas. Tell it to the folks in the movie theatre. They weren't black.
There is NO argument that recommends gun ownership by civilians. None.
As to cars. yes certainly having a car is more important than a gun to most people. But if you wanted to cut down on accidents the government could make it happen. maybe make a rule that you can ONLY use your car to get to work and shop for food. There you go, that would probably eliminate tons of accidents. it would also limit freedom and quality of life, but then its worth it if it saves lives, right?
BTW Australia has 1/13th the population of the United states. therefore Aus should have about 1/13th the mass shootings. I looked back and there were 13 mass shooting in the US with over 10 people killed since 1996. Aus had one on 1996. which is 1/13th. just as expected.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 03:28:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 03:28:32 PM
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 16, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 16, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
BTW Australia has 1/13th the population of the United states. therefore Aus should have about 1/13th the mass shootings. I looked back and there were 13 mass shooting in the US with over 10 people killed since 1996. Aus had one on 1996. which is 1/13th. just as expected.
Again with the distortions.
Since 1996, when powerful military type guns were declared illegal and removed from the community, how many mass shootings has Australia had?
0. Zero. Zip. Niente. Nada.
Now, how many has America had?
Let me help you...
Rather than rely on outdated data, examine the facts. Australia's mass shootings have declined, America's are increasing at a rapid rate.
Yet you still deny is because you have too many guns.
America laughs at North Korea, and their brainwashed zombie citizens in their belief that their leader is some kind of god. What do you think the world thinks of Americans who believe in guns?
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2018, 02:00:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2018, 02:00:47 AM
Does anyone know about Trump repealing an Obongo era reg about crazies not buying guns? It might be MSM propaganda.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Misleading prog lapdog media bullshit.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 02:39:17 AM
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 02:39:17 AM
Yes, bulletproof safety items and even mace are considered weaponry here.
HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT?
Bricktop is fine with his former brethren being able to protect themselves either actively or passively but rue the fucking day in his mind that some stupid civilian decides they don't want to be harmed, or worse killed while they have to wait for a Krusty Kream's run to end near their neighbourhood.
If I could see his face near mine, I'd spit in it. Fcking coward. He deserves a painful death, that piece of unethical shit.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 17, 2018, 04:06:37 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 17, 2018, 04:06:37 AM
You wouldn't be the first one that's tried...
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 04:12:56 AM
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 04:12:56 AM
Title: Re: This is how fucked up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 17, 2018, 12:27:50 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 17, 2018, 12:27:50 PM
BTW Australia has 1/13th the population of the United states. therefore Aus should have about 1/13th the mass shootings. I looked back and there were 13 mass shooting in the US with over 10 people killed since 1996. Aus had one on 1996. which is 1/13th. just as expected.
Again with the distortions.
Since 1996, when powerful military type guns were declared illegal and removed from the community, how many mass shootings has Australia had?
0. Zero. Zip. Niente. Nada.https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/
Now, how many has America had?
Let me help you...Its in the hundreds. https://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/13/health/mass-shootings-in-america-in-charts-and-graphs-trnd/index.html
Rather than rely on outdated data, examine the facts. Australia's mass shootings have declined, America's are increasing at a rapid rate.
Yet you still deny is because you have too many guns.
America laughs at North Korea, and their brainwashed zombie citizens in their belief that their leader is some kind of god. What do you think the world thinks of Americans who believe in guns?
I don't think that definition of mass shooting works at all. Just four injured? a machete or a knife attack could do more than that.
that's why I chose incidents with 10 or more killed. We've had 13 since 1996, Autralia had one in 1996,. We have 13 times the population Australia has. So it's what would be expected.
BTW if you add up every mass shooting even with the four injured CNN version. You still wouldn't have as many deaths as 9-11, so rather than get rid of a constitutional right for citizens I'd rather see muslims banned from coming to the US.
I don't see why people need to own AR15s and such, that should be banned. But even if you banned all guns in the US there'd still be plenty of shootings. Criminals aren't going to surrender their guns, and they can always illegally buy them on the street.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 17, 2018, 06:31:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 17, 2018, 06:31:27 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 09:37:15 PM
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 09:37:15 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 17, 2018, 10:08:25 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 17, 2018, 10:08:25 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 18, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 18, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: realgrimm on February 22, 2018, 01:03:33 AM
Post by: realgrimm on February 22, 2018, 01:03:33 AM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 10:46:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 10:46:02 AM
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Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: realgrimm on February 22, 2018, 11:42:26 AM
Post by: realgrimm on February 22, 2018, 11:42:26 AM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 08:18:07 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 08:18:07 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:40:58 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:40:58 PM
The American notion that you have a "right" to a killing implement is utterly absurd. No other nation on earth has such a silly concept of gun control.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 08:42:22 PM
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 08:42:22 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:48:12 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:48:12 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 08:58:03 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 08:58:03 PM
There is NO right to carry or possess a lethal weapon, other than for a lawful purpose such as security, sport, primary production.Quote from: "Bricktop"
The American notion that you have a "right" to a killing implement is utterly absurd. No other nation on earth has such a silly concept of gun control.
I dont believe one should go around carrying a rifle, unless going to target practice or hunting or something. But a handgun should be fine to carry around. You carried a pistol as an officer right? Would you ever go into a bad neighborhood even if you were off duty without one? Nevermind, you prolly dont have ghettos there like here, prolly different. Some of these areas aint safe. Being cast into those areas for whatever reason, be it your job or visiting family, you should have the right to protect. I've been robbed before. A black guy snuck up behind me while I was trying to open my car door from the inside since the outer handle was broke. Think he was hiding behind my bumper waiting on me after I did a pizza delivery. He grabbed me, and held a knife to my throat. I wasnt allowed to carry a gun at that job, but I did when I started driving a cab. The cops took 6 minutes to get there, and the station was only a few blocks away. They never caught him, I had to work for free that night cause he got the money in my pocket which was my tips pretty much. I almost went after his ass myself, but felt like it wouldnt take the law long to get there and they would get him.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
Which one is the lunatic, again?
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 09:02:12 PM
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 09:02:12 PM
Our lives are worth less than theirs.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
There is NO right to carry or possess a lethal weapon, other than for a lawful purpose such as security, sport, primary production.Quote from: "Bricktop"
The American notion that you have a "right" to a killing implement is utterly absurd. No other nation on earth has such a silly concept of gun control.
I dont believe one should go around carrying a rifle, unless going to target practice or hunting or something. But a handgun should be fine to carry around. You carried a pistol as an officer right? Would you ever go into a bad neighborhood even if you were off duty without one? Nevermind, you prolly dont have ghettos there like here, prolly different. Some of these areas aint safe. Being cast into those areas for whatever reason, be it your job or visiting family, you should have the right to protect. I've been robbed before. A black guy snuck up behind me while I was trying to open my car door from the inside since the outer handle was broke. Think he was hiding behind my bumper waiting on me after I did a pizza delivery. He grabbed me, and held a knife to my throat. I wasnt allowed to carry a gun at that job, but I did when I started driving a cab. The cops took 6 minutes to get there, and the station was only a few blocks away. They never caught him, I had to work for free that night cause he got the money in my pocket which was my tips pretty much. I almost went after his ass myself, but felt like it wouldnt take the law long to get there and they would get him.
And if you had a gun, and there was a knife at your throat, what would YOU do?
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:03:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:03:22 PM
He's of the do as we say not as we do persuasion, Blazor.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Our lives are worth less than theirs.
Well, in your case, that much is true.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
And if you had a gun, and there was a knife at your throat, what would YOU do?
Honestly, at that point, there was lil I could do but let him have the money. He got the jump on me. At first I thought it was a friend grabbing me and playing around, I was young and dumb to the ways of the world. He said "give me the money motherfucker" and I didnt hear him at first cause it was my deaf ear lol. So smiling, I turn my head towards him, said what, and he said it again, and tightened up the knife to my neck. I couldnt see the knife, only feel a long serration or something. I said "ok" and held my hands up. I think had I had a concealed gun, at that point, I didnt have enough reaction time. But would of once he let me go. Being older now I pay extra attention to my surroundings.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: cc on February 28, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
Post by: cc on February 28, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
I love how Freud tries to imply my views are the result of "Quote from: "Bricktop"mental illness"...when the vast majority of Australians, as well as the UK and elsewhere hold the same view.
Which one is thelunatic, again?
Shhh ... you are flirting with exposing the terrible secret truth about Aussies
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 01, 2018, 12:42:28 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 01, 2018, 12:42:28 AM
There is NO right to carry or possess a lethal weapon, other than for a lawful purpose such as security, sport, primary production.Quote from: "Bricktop"
The American notion that you have a "right" to a killing implement is utterly absurd. No other nation on earth has such a silly concept of gun control.
That's completely untrue. There are many governments that allow their citizens to have guns . And some of them have lower homicide rates than Australia (czech republic and Switzerland).
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Frood on March 01, 2018, 12:52:58 AM
Post by: Frood on March 01, 2018, 12:52:58 AM
I love how Freud tries to imply my views are the result of "Quote from: "Bricktop"mental illness"...when the vast majority of Australians, as well as the UK and elsewhere hold the same view.
Which one is thelunatic, again?
Shhh ... you are flirting with exposing the terrible secret truth about Aussies
ac_smile
Yeah most of us think what government can do for us but very few are savvy enough to realize it's an issue of what government does to us. You can open the cage but getting the pets to leave is a whole other hurdle here.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 04:48:27 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 04:48:27 AM
There is NO right to carry or possess a lethal weapon, other than for a lawful purpose such as security, sport, primary production.Quote from: "Bricktop"
The American notion that you have a "right" to a killing implement is utterly absurd. No other nation on earth has such a silly concept of gun control.
That's completely untrue. There are many governments that allow their citizens to have guns . And some of them have lower homicide rates than Australia (czech republic and Switzerland).
Why do you consistently obfuscate by merging two or more issues into a single argument.
We are not discussing the homicide rate.
We are discussing the slaughter of YOUR countrymen, and their children, with firearms that have no place in a modern and developed society.
As your rate of deaths by gunfire clearly establish.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 01, 2018, 12:03:23 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 01, 2018, 12:03:23 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 05:53:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 05:53:03 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
Shhh ... you are flirting with exposing the terrible secret truth about Aussies
ac_smile
Which one?
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
The Justice Department announced Wednesday it would hand over documents related to the Obama-era Fast and Furious gun scandal to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Former President Obama and former Attorney General Eric Holder had previously refused to produce documents requested by Oversight, documents which former Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz at the time called "critical" to pursuing the investigation.
The original Fast and Furious operation — conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — somehow allowed nearly 2,000 firearms to find their way into the hands of Mexican cartel members.
Firearms connected to the program were found at multiple crime scenes in both the United States and Mexico, including the murder scene of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 05:21:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 05:21:44 PM
"Sir, we have a problem."
"Send more guns".
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 05:39:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 05:39:53 PM
How American.Quote from: "Bricktop"
"Sir, we have a problem."
"Send more guns".
Send them to the Mexican cartels for safe keeping.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 05:41:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 05:41:20 PM
America and guns is like bikers and drugs.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
Insane.Quote from: "Bricktop"
America and guns is like bikers and drugs.
I have not heard a lot about Fast and Furious other than it is a source of embarrassment to Obama.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 06:41:52 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 06:41:52 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 06:50:46 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 06:50:46 PM
I've known about it, and I mentioned it to Brick last week while debating. And he wants me to trust my government to hand over my guns lololol. Thats like trusting Tradeu to fix the Canadian economy lol, only worse!Quote from: "Blazor"
Then here's your problem.
America has long touted its country and system of government as the world's greatest.
This belief has underpinned its foreign policy to the extent that it has used this belief to invade other countries or conspire to change the governments of those it does not agree with.
Yet its very own citizens do not trust its government, or necessary believe in it. It flies the flag, but knows its a facade.
If you truly accept that you NEED to possess a firearm to feel safe in your own country, then you must accept that it is also deeply flawed, dysfunctional and in serious need of a change in how you manage yourselves. You cannot claim one, whilst denying the other.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 07:34:40 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 07:34:40 PM
I've known about it, and I mentioned it to Brick last week while debating. And he wants me to trust my government to hand over my guns lololol. Thats like trusting Tradeu to fix the Canadian economy lol, only worse!Quote from: "Blazor"
Then here's your problem.
America has long touted its country and system of government as the world's greatest.
This belief has underpinned its foreign policy to the extent that it has used this belief to invade other countries or conspire to change the governments of those it does not agree with.
Yet its very own citizens do not trust its government, or necessary believe in it. It flies the flag, but knows its a facade.
If you truly accept that you NEED to possess a firearm to feel safe in your own country, then you must accept that it is also deeply flawed, dysfunctional and in serious need of a change in how you manage yourselves. You cannot claim one, whilst denying the other.
Oh man, you are right when it comes to the USA invading other countries or conspiring to change their governments! I've seen it, and its fucked up. "They have nukes, or weapons of mass destruction, or they are treating people poorly!", the propaganda machine!
Right again that those of us in the know do not trust our own government. I dont know how to ever get it back to citizen controlled, because the ones running things are fucking sell outs. My friend and I use to spread the word, of all the stuff we knew that was corrupt. He called himself the peaceful patriot lol, and wanted to start some form of media to inform. A lot of folks just wont listen, and I dont think he spreads the word anymore, kinda like I dont like I use to. We had thousands of hours of researching, was a hobby of sorts lol. There is so much afoot its crazy. The majority was very factual, but it gets to a point where you have to decide if its disinformation or not. If I try and look some of these things up now on google, the links aint there, the info aint there, bookmarks are invalid, they dont want folks knowing this stuff. I still come up with stuff, sure, but its harder.
I dont fly the American flag, mine has an X on it and 13 stars lol. I also redesigned it several years ago, but it still needs work.
Btw, I saw a video today of officer training, they had a chicken toy squeaking in front of cadets, and if they laughed, they had to do pushups lol. Now I know why officers never smile, they are trained not to.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 07:37:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 07:37:22 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2018, 07:41:24 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2018, 07:41:24 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 08:05:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 08:05:36 PM
South Africa and what is happening to white farmers there is a good argument for private citizens having guns.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Wouldn't that just give the South African regime an excuse to carry out racial slaughter.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
I think They're going to do that anyway. But south africans have been able to acquire guns for years.South Africa and what is happening to white farmers there is a good argument for private citizens having guns.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Wouldn't that just give the South African regime an excuse to carry out racial slaughter.
Having a gun allows farmers to protect themselves at least a bit against the murderers and torturers that are constantly invading their homes. (I would suggest buying dogs as well)
They also might be able to escape and join some sort of resistence or militia movement. Naturally its a long shot, but it beats just being slaughtered
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 08:28:06 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 08:28:06 PM
South Africa and what is happening to white farmers there is a good argument for private citizens having guns.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Wouldn't that just give the South African regime an excuse to carry out racial slaughter.
Having a gun allows farmers to protect themselves at least a bit against the murderers and torturers that are constantly invading their homes. (I would suggest buying dogs as well)
They also might be able to escape and join some sort of resistence or militia movement. Naturally its a long shot, but it beats just being slaughtered
Dude! Have you seen Machine Gun Preacher! Got Gerarld Butler in it. Damn good movie. Fash may even like it lol. Its a lil raunchy in the opening, and some drug use, but then he turns faith and goes off to save folks as a Missionary over there.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 08:32:30 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 08:32:30 PM
South Africa and what is happening to white farmers there is a good argument for private citizens having guns.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Wouldn't that just give the South African regime an excuse to carry out racial slaughter.
Having a gun allows farmers to protect themselves at least a bit against the murderers and torturers that are constantly invading their homes. (I would suggest buying dogs as well)
They also might be able to escape and join some sort of resistence or militia movement. Naturally its a long shot, but it beats just being slaughtered
Dude, seriously.
You think having a gun will protect you from an armed military or paramilitary force?
I used to be one of those guys in black uniforms, balaclavas and ballistic helmets carrying an M16. If a standard squad of 10 turned up at your door, you'd crap your pants and do whatever they tell you to.
Don't be educated by your mass media. Its ALL bullshit. You'll either surrender or die. Regardless of what heat you have in your hand.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 08:33:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 08:33:31 PM
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Btw, I saw a video today of officer training, they had a chicken toy squeaking in front of cadets, and if they laughed, they had to do pushups lol. Now I know why officers never smile, they are trained not to.
GMO?
HAARP?
I know the other word.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 08:50:49 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 08:50:49 PM
GMO?
HAARP?
I know the other word.
There is also a pic of a drone, and a camera lol.
GMO, not the good kind, is pesticide spliced into the seeds of veggies, so you are eating poison. They call it a slow kill.
HAARP was the weather modifying device up in Alaska. Its an antenna array that aimed into the ionosphere or something, and could project back down, going below the surface so far, and reaching submarines. Could cause hurricanes and earthquakes. One of the signs it was being used on an area was aurora borealis lights. That earthquake in Japan a few years ago, they recorded those lights in the sky right before it hit. Supposedly the station in Alaska was shut down for some time, but reopened. Other nations have them now too. Not only that, but they have mobile ones on ships as well. Its capable of other things as well.
NOW, they have a greater weapon than HAARP, because I got to digging what replaced it when it was shut down. Cell phone towers. They emit high bursts of radiation to an area when triggered. Can alter brain waves and such too.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 10:58:26 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 08, 2018, 10:58:26 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 11:02:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2018, 11:02:34 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2018, 11:52:36 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2018, 11:52:36 PM
South Africa and what is happening to white farmers there is a good argument for private citizens having guns.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Wouldn't that just give the South African regime an excuse to carry out racial slaughter.
Having a gun allows farmers to protect themselves at least a bit against the murderers and torturers that are constantly invading their homes. (I would suggest buying dogs as well)
They also might be able to escape and join some sort of resistence or militia movement. Naturally its a long shot, but it beats just being slaughtered
Dude, seriously.
You think having a gun will protect you from an armed military or paramilitary force?
I used to be one of those guys in black uniforms, balaclavas and ballistic helmets carrying an M16. If a standard squad of 10 turned up at your door, you'd crap your pants and do whatever they tell you to.
Don't be educated by your mass media. Its ALL bullshit. You'll either surrender or die. Regardless of what heat you have in your hand.
If the military show up on their doorstep, yes its too late. i was referring to using a gun against criminals who come onto the farm. or, if possible, joining a militia/resistance group.
Title: Re: London sees 20% rise in rape reports in a year, police say “we don’t understand the causes”
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 12:20:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 12:20:40 AM
Title: Re: London sees 20% rise in rape reports in a year, police say “we don’t understand the causes”
Post by: Wazzzup on March 09, 2018, 12:27:54 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 09, 2018, 12:27:54 AM
I would definitely buy a gun if I lived in South Africa. Along with a half a dozen pitbulls, a six feet high electrified fence, body armour, and a moat with crocodiles in it.Quote from: "seoulbro"
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 12:28:44 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 12:28:44 AM
If things ever got to a point in time for you to do that, its already too late.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 01:01:28 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 01:01:28 AM
None of which would protect you when a horde of landgrabbers descended on you.Quote from: "Bricktop"
If things ever got to a point in time for you to do that, its already too late.
It would sure as hell make a robber's job a lot harder.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 01:26:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 01:26:12 AM
None of which would protect you when a horde of landgrabbers descended on you.Quote from: "Bricktop"
If things ever got to a point in time for you to do that, its already too late.
It would sure as hell make a robber's job a lot harder.
I would think most farm families in South Africa have a firearm.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 01:27:49 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 01:27:49 AM
Sorry.
"Robbers", whatever they are, rarely ring before smashing down your front door. Possessing a firearm is as likely to lead to your demise as theirs. And bear in mind that in many countries, such as Switzerland, your firearm must be kept in an approved safety cabinet.
No, I'm sorry. If you NEED a gun to protect yourself, you're already in a bad place, and you should leave asap.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 01:28:12 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 01:28:12 AM
None of which would protect you when a horde of landgrabbers descended on you.Quote from: "Bricktop"
If things ever got to a point in time for you to do that, its already too late.
It would sure as hell make a robber's job a lot harder.
I would think most farm families in South Africa have a firearm.
And anyone with malicious intent would know that.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 09:19:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2018, 09:19:53 AM
None of which would protect you when a horde of landgrabbers descended on you.Quote from: "Bricktop"
If things ever got to a point in time for you to do that, its already too late.
It would sure as hell make a robber's job a lot harder.
I would think most farm families in South Africa have a firearm.
And anyone with malicious intent would know that.
The safest decision white South African farmers can make is emigration..
But, until the day they say goodbye, security measures are needed.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 05:58:24 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 09, 2018, 05:58:24 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2018, 12:54:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2018, 12:54:59 AM
The only effective guarantee of their safety is to leave.Quote from: "Bricktop"
True, but keep a gun until they exit New Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2018, 01:44:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2018, 01:44:43 AM
The only effective guarantee of their safety is to leave.Quote from: "Bricktop"
True, but keep a gun until they exit New Zimbabwe.
They are doing that.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 07:16:17 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 07:16:17 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 12, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 12, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
Is there not more to this?
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 07:26:11 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 07:26:11 PM
That is clearly unfair dismissal.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is there not more to this?
Thats all I know at the moment, gf told me on her lunch just now, it was someone she knows. She worked in Social Services.
That they found out she had a permit, and let her go. Did not even have a firearm on her.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
A woman got fired today. Not for having a gun on her, but for owning a conceal weapons permit. FOR HAVING A PERMIT! She is suing for discrimination.Quote from: "Blazor"
Where you work Blazor?
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
A woman got fired today. Not for having a gun on her, but for owning a conceal weapons permit. FOR HAVING A PERMIT! She is suing for discrimination.Quote from: "Blazor"
Where you work Blazor?
Nah not where I work, my gf knows someone, she worked for Social Services.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 08:40:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 08:40:27 PM
A woman got fired today. Not for having a gun on her, but for owning a conceal weapons permit. FOR HAVING A PERMIT! She is suing for discrimination.Quote from: "Blazor"
Where you work Blazor?
Nah not where I work, my gf knows someone, she worked for Social Services.
That is fucked. But, it does not surprise me. The civil service in Canada employs snowflakes too.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 10:39:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 10:39:20 PM
if her employer doesn't want a gun on their premises that is probably their right. Howerver an employer punishing someone for exercising their constitutional rights outside the work place, in way that has no impact on her employer is another matter. I have no idea if there is precedent, but I think the courts would side in her favor. She should sue, if she is able to. Maybe use a fundraising site to pay for her legal bills, or reach out to a conservative rights group.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Her employer stepped outside their bounds.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 11:09:58 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 12, 2018, 11:09:58 PM
if her employer doesn't want a gun on their premises that is probably their right. Howerver an employer punishing someone for exercising their constitutional rights outside the work place, in way that has no impact on her employer is another matter. I have no idea if there is precedent, but I think the courts would side in her favor. She should sue, if she is able to. Maybe use a fundraising site to pay for her legal bills, or reach out to a conservative rights group.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
The way I understand it, there was no gun on the premises. They "found out" she had a concealed weapons permit and let her go. Her family suggested to do the same, sue. Its discrimination.
I figured it fit right in with "this is how messed up America is" lol.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:18:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:18:00 PM
if her employer doesn't want a gun on their premises that is probably their right. Howerver an employer punishing someone for exercising their constitutional rights outside the work place, in way that has no impact on her employer is another matter. I have no idea if there is precedent, but I think the courts would side in her favor. She should sue, if she is able to. Maybe use a fundraising site to pay for her legal bills, or reach out to a conservative rights group.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
The way I understand it, there was no gun on the premises. They "found out" she had a concealed weapons permit and let her go. Her family suggested to do the same, sue. Its discrimination.
I figured it fit right in with "this is how messed up America is" lol.
That is messed up.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 13, 2018, 12:37:33 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 13, 2018, 12:37:33 PM
The woman claims that at the time of her termination, she wasn't carrying a weapon.
What happened?
Storm Durham, who was until Friday a social worker for the city of Roanoke, posted on social media that she was fired from her job for being a legal concealed carry permittee and was escorted out of her workplace by three police officers upon learning of her termination because, as she claimed, she was deemed a "safety risk." At the time, Durham said she was not in possession of a firearm.
Was the termination legal?
According to one interview with Durham, she believes it was not. The Commonwealth of Virginia is a right-to-work and at-will work state, meaning an employer can dismiss employees without reason or notice while employees can quit without reason or notice.
However, since Durham believes her termination was in violation of her Second Amendment rights, she will likely lawyer up and fight her termination, which is what hundreds of people have urged her to do.
Snopes says the story is "False". Snopes is a very left wing ":fact checker" so make of it what you will
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 12:46:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 12:46:30 PM
Either this is her, or this woman is in the same situationQuote from: "Wazzzup"A young Virginia woman's story is going viral over the weekend after she claims she was fired from her job as a social worker for simply possessing a permit to carry concealed weapons.
The woman claims that at the time of her termination, she wasn't carrying a weapon.
What happened?
Storm Durham, who was until Friday a social worker for the city of Roanoke, posted on social media that she was fired from her job for being a legal concealed carry permittee and was escorted out of her workplace by three police officers upon learning of her termination because, as she claimed, she was deemed a "safety risk." At the time, Durham said she was not in possession of a firearm.
Was the termination legal?
According to one interview with Durham, she believes it was not. The Commonwealth of Virginia is a right-to-work and at-will work state, meaning an employer can dismiss employees without reason or notice while employees can quit without reason or notice.
However, since Durham believes her termination was in violation of her Second Amendment rights, she will likely lawyer up and fight her termination, which is what hundreds of people have urged her to do.
Snopes says the story is "False". Snopes is a very left wing ":fact checker" so make of it what you will
I don't believe snopes.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 01:55:33 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 01:55:33 PM
Either this is her, or this woman is in the same situationQuote from: "Wazzzup"
Ha! Damn good detective work as always! Sure does sound like her, I dont know her name, I would have to ask. But sounds like it! Roanoke VA, SS, all adds up this is her.
Yeah fuck Snopes.
They are trying to cover this up, that it is "other reasons" to why she was fired. But why would police need to escort her off over a dress code violation.
Liberals have taken over Northern VA, around here was all thats left (or Right lol). But thanks to VA Tech, college campus, this area is swaying. This is a sad thing to see.
This is also why I will never have a Concealed permit, because then you are on a list. I remember one city had tried an interactive map system, that showed a red dot, of where conceal gun owners lived, fuck that. I would rather open carry, and may start doing so!
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 02:41:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 02:41:20 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 13, 2018, 04:01:07 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 13, 2018, 04:01:07 PM
Or better yet make a new rating, like "cant tell" or indeteminable". Instead they revealed their bias by jumping automatically to believing the state without question. The state could well be lying. I have certainly seen leftists try to get people fired and otherwise punished for their political beliefs, that's the kind of people they are. Happens all the time.
I asked a lawyer in my family about it and this is what they said--
if this goes to court two things will have to happen. 1. the reason the woman was fired will need to be determined as best as possible and 2. If judge believes she was fired for having a concealed carry permit, is that a legal reason to fire someone? (the answer is probably no, because it is a constitutional right and has no bearing on her job performance.)
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 04:04:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 04:04:30 PM
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
At worst Snopes should have marked the story "unproven". (Snopes uses these ratingsQuote from: "Wazzzup"https://www.snopes.com/ratings/ )
Or better yet make a new rating, like "cant tell" or indeteminable". Instead they revealed their bias by jumping automatically to believing the state without question. The state could well be lying. I have certainly seen leftists try to get people fired and otherwise punished for their political beliefs, that's the kind of people they are. Happens all the time.
I asked a lawyer in my family about it and this is what they said--
if this goes to court two things will have to happen. 1. the reason the woman was fired will need to be determined as best as possible and 2. If judge believes she was fired for having a concealed carry permit, is that a legal reason to fire someone? (the answer is probably no, because it is a constitutional right and has no bearing on her job performance.)
My bet was the permit was a main reason "someone" there didnt want her there, or they didnt like her. So they came up with silly shit like "dress code" and shit to make it look otherwise and got rid of her.
Believe me I know on the Lefty stunts with the workplace. Its ridiculous.
Thats cool you asked lol. I'd like to see how this plays out!
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:18:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:18:14 PM
At worst Snopes should have marked the story "unproven". (Snopes uses these ratingsQuote from: "Wazzzup"https://www.snopes.com/ratings/ )
Or better yet make a new rating, like "cant tell" or indeteminable". Instead they revealed their bias by jumping automatically to believing the state without question. The state could well be lying. I have certainly seen leftists try to get people fired and otherwise punished for their political beliefs, that's the kind of people they are. Happens all the time.
I asked a lawyer in my family about it and this is what they said--
if this goes to court two things will have to happen. 1. the reason the woman was fired will need to be determined as best as possible and 2. If judge believes she was fired for having a concealed carry permit, is that a legal reason to fire someone? (the answer is probably no, because it is a constitutional right and has no bearing on her job performance.)
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2018, 12:13:47 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2018, 12:13:47 AM
"There's an overwhelming body of evidence that shows that harsh disciplinary protocols disproportionately impact children of color. We know that in the studies that talk about what the rates are in terms of suspensions and expulsions from school. The FBI has done an extraordinary job, I think, of recognizing implicit bias among all professions including law enforcement and I would suggest it applies to all professions," she continued.
"Do you have any concerns about a policy that would result in arming teachers and the concern that we should make sure that if something like that were to occur that there would be training around implicit bias?" Harris asked.
And this woman is considered a democrat hopeful for president in 2020.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Bricktop on March 15, 2018, 12:46:35 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 15, 2018, 12:46:35 AM
Sometimes there are no problems until a politician thinks one up.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2018, 10:31:27 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2018, 10:31:27 PM
A Rocklin High School teacher is on paid administrative leave over her views about the national school walk out. The teacher says all she did was open up a debate about the politics of the protest in her classroom.Quote
She says it was only appropriate to talk to her class about the politics of organized protests, ahead of the school walkout.
But she says the school disagreed with her views and told her to stay home Wednesday morning.
"We had a dialogue in class about it in Thursday and Friday. And today I received the call. So I am aghast," said Julianne Benzel.
Benzel says she never discouraged her students from participating in the national school walk out, but she did question whether it's appropriate for a school to support a protest against gun violence if they're not willing to support all protests.
"And so I just kind of used the example which I know it's really controversial, but I know it was the best example I thought of at the time—a group of students nationwide, or even locally, decided 'I want to walk out of school for 17 minutes' and go in the quad area and protest abortion, would that be allowed by our administration?" she said.
"I didn't get any backlash from my students. All my students totally understood that there could not be a double standard," she said.
"I feel like if we were to go to school and say something like I want to walk out maybe for abortion rights, then you know they probably wouldn't let us because that's more of a conservative push. But someone wants to say let's walk out for gun control then the school's going to go with it because it's more of a popular view," said Wade.
The Rocklin School District won't say whether his teacher is in trouble, because of that classroom debate.
A spokeswoman provided a statement reading in part:
"If you're going to allow students to walk up and get out of class without penalty then you have to allow any group of students that wants to protest," she said.
Benzel says she has retained legal counsel and plans to sit down with school administrators, Thursday morning.
Clearly she has it all wrong and needs to be punished-- only the left is allowed to politicize students, only the left can protest, only the left is allowed to dissent.
Another example
Now THAT is how America really is messed up. We survived nearly 240 years with guns being legal, We will not survive the lefts destruction of free speech.
Title: Re: This is how messed up America is.
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
Secular people assume the teachers are brainwashing the students, but the exact opposite is true..
No imposing political opinions on students is tolerated, but in public schools it's the norm.