Title: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 18, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 18, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
Someone has to start listening and showing REAL political courage.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2018, 08:03:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2018, 08:03:00 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43105701
Someone has to start listening and showing REAL political courage.
I think it's symbolism.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 18, 2018, 08:05:54 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 18, 2018, 08:05:54 PM
Calls for gun control are all well and good but what about the criminals? They aren't gonna hand in their firearms to the nearest police station, it would be law abiding citizens who are left unable to defend themselves, their loved ones and their property. Or maybe that's what the (((establishment))) wants?
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 18, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 18, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Criminals tend to kill other criminals.
And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 18, 2018, 09:43:09 PM
Post by: Frood on February 18, 2018, 09:43:09 PM
Spoken like a true totalitarian wanker.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2018, 10:14:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2018, 10:14:46 PM
Meh, in the long run it would be more beneficial for Americans if the Federal Reserve was dissolved.Quote from: "SCOUSE"
Calls for gun control are all well and good but what about the criminals? They aren't gonna hand in their firearms to the nearest police station, it would be law abiding citizens who are left unable to defend themselves, their loved ones and their property. Or maybe that's what the (((establishment))) wants?
There are three hundred million private firearms in the US. Gun control now benefits organized crime only.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27750608_1637540196294851_2707950751919737644_n.jpg?oh=0882ad11ed4f6545197b9b0c52b41dcc&oe=5B003B16%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/%20...%20e=5B003B16%22%3Ehttps://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27750608_1637540196294851_2707950751919737644_n.jpg?oh=0882ad11ed4f6545197b9b0c52b41dcc&oe=5B003B16%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
It seems Honduras does indeed have the highest murder rate in the world.
But, the banning part is not exactly true.
It is recognized the right of ownership and possession of firearms to citizens and foreign residents who are in full joy of their civil rights and comply with the requirements established by this Law and its regulations.
Automatic weapons are illegal.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 12:12:12 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 12:12:12 AM
:001_rolleyes:
Spoken like a true totalitarian wanker.
Spoken like a true junky.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 19, 2018, 12:32:13 AM
Post by: Frood on February 19, 2018, 12:32:13 AM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 19, 2018, 01:01:00 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 19, 2018, 01:01:00 AM
Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist, but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 01:35:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 01:35:41 AM
if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. And nothing would change (things might even get worse).Quote from: "Wazzzup"Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist,but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 11:30:11 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 11:30:11 AM
if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. And nothing would change (things might even get worse).Quote from: "Wazzzup"Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist,but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.
ac_wot
I am certain those that lost loved ones have no problem with harsh sentencing.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 19, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 19, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. And nothing would change (things might even get worse).Quote from: "Wazzzup"Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist,but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.
ac_wot
I am certain those that lost loved ones have no problem with harsh sentencing.
Most in the antigun crowd are leftists. And they usually oppose harsh sentences for violent criminals. they'd rather blame guns than the people who shoot them.
Want to make a real difference in crime? Put people away for life on their second violent felony.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 19, 2018, 02:53:14 PM
Post by: Frood on February 19, 2018, 02:53:14 PM
if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. And nothing would change (things might even get worse).Quote from: "Wazzzup"Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist,but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.
ac_wot
I am certain those that lost loved ones have no problem with harsh sentencing.
Most in the antigun crowd are leftists. And they usually oppose harsh sentences for violent criminals. they'd rather blame guns than the people who shoot them.
Want to make a real difference in crime? Put people away for life on their second violent felony.
Put them on a secluded island with fellow repeat violent offenders and dedicate a satellite feed with drone AV for the masses to watch.
Each repeat offender gets a blanket, poncho, knife, flint, frypan, a kilo of drugs in condoms stuffed up their bums, blow up doll, and a small chest of chocolate and beans.
Then pop some corn and get comfy on the sofa for when they first arrive and are greeted by their brothers.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 04:02:14 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 04:02:14 PM
Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Criminals tend to kill other criminals.
And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".
I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter. Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.
If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.
I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths? Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 04:04:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 04:04:09 PM
Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Criminals tend to kill other criminals.
And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".
I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter. Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.
If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.
I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths? Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.
I read that London has more acid throwing crimes than anywhere else in the world.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 04:09:06 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 04:09:06 PM
Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Criminals tend to kill other criminals.
And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".
I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter. Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.
If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.
I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths? Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.
I read that London has more acid throwing crimes than anywhere else in the world.
That aswell, they started carrying acid because it wasn't illegal initially, I think it is now.
Honestly Fash, London is the absolute armpit of the country. I'm ashamed to call it our 'capital'.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 04:14:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 04:14:07 PM
Is it "the criminals" causing these massacres?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Criminals tend to kill other criminals.
And removing ALL guns removes those that will fall into the hands of "criminals".
I agree with you on a lot of things but you're wrong on this matter. Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly? Apart from leave them completely exposed.
If you think that a ban on guns will stop criminals getting their hands on them, you're mistaken.
I presume you're familiar with the rocketing knife and gun crime here in the UK predominantly among black youths? Well, knife crime is still through the roof, regardless of it being illegal to carry knives.
I read that London has more acid throwing crimes than anywhere else in the world.
That aswell, they started carrying acid because it wasn't illegal initially, I think it is now.
Honestly Fash, London is the absolute armpit of the country. I'm ashamed to call it our 'capital'.
I'd rather be stabbed than maimed with acid.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 05:45:56 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 05:45:56 PM
Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly?Quote from: "SCOUSE"
Your law abiding public is already disarmed.
As is ours.
When were children last gunned down in a school in the UK? Or when were people slaughtered by gunfire at Glastonbury?
Even terrorists have to use cars and knives to slaughter innocents. Imagine the body count if they managed to obtain semi auto, or fully auto military rifles. Remember Paris?
Its hard to believe that a rational thinking Brit, who lives in a relatively safe and protected country, asks what gun control will achieve, when you live under its benefit every day.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. And nothing would change (things might even get worse).Quote from: "Wazzzup"Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist,but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.
ac_wot
I am certain those that lost loved ones have no problem with harsh sentencing.
Most in the antigun crowd are leftists. And they usually oppose harsh sentences for violent criminals. they'd rather blame guns than the people who shoot them.
Want to make a real difference in crime? Put people away for life on their second violent felony.
Put them on a secluded island with fellow repeat violent offenders and dedicate a satellite feed with drone AV for the masses to watch.
Each repeat offender gets a blanket, poncho, knife, flint, frypan, a kilo of drugs in condoms stuffed up their bums, blow up doll, and a small chest of chocolate and beans.
Then pop some corn and get comfy on the sofa for when they first arrive and are greeted by their brothers.
You're a sad little fuck, aren't you?
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 06:07:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 06:07:41 PM
All these marches/demands for gun control are a waste of time. I have no problem with a ban on AK-15's in theory. However, criminals are not going to turn theirs in.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Too many guns in the USA for any type of recall. Grandfather ones in and ban automatic weapons.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 06:49:36 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 06:49:36 PM
But what sort of world will your grandkids inherent if you do nothing?
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
Disarming the mostly law abiding general public will achieve what exactly?Quote from: "SCOUSE"
Your law abiding public is already disarmed.
As is ours.
When were children last gunned down in a school in the UK? Or when were people slaughtered by gunfire at Glastonbury?
Even terrorists have to use cars and knives to slaughter innocents. Imagine the body count if they managed to obtain semi auto, or fully auto military rifles. Remember Paris?
Its hard to believe that a rational thinking Brit, who lives in a relatively safe and protected country, asks what gun control will achieve, when you live under its benefit every day.
There's pros and cons for both sides of the argument, but it makes no sense to me focusing on stripping law abiding citizens of their right to bear arms. Perhaps their needs to be more stringent rules on who can actually possess a gun? I'm obviously not familiar with the rules regarding gun ownership in the states.
As for here, I'm not gonna argue for gun control to be relaxed because seeing people walk down the street strapped with a handgun would be pretty bizarre for me. However we still have problems with gun and knife crime despite the near zero tolerance to gun ownership, so a complete ban is by no means a proper solution.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 06:56:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 06:56:12 PM
When your entire economy is bolstered by firerams and weapons manufacture, and violence is a way of life, removing lethal weapons would seem impossible.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But what sort of world will your grandkids inherent if you do nothing?
But, that's just it, you can't remove firearms. You can however create a black market for them.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 07:40:35 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 07:40:35 PM
Sources.........
1. Nikolas Cruz
2. Dylan Klebold
3. Jared Lee Loughner:
4. Adam Lanza
5. James Holmes
6. Elliot Rodgers
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 07:42:23 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 07:42:23 PM
Seems like Jews are classed as white when they've done something bad and classed as a separate ethnic and religious group when they play the victim card.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
I'll just leave this here......Quote from: "SCOUSE"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/%20...%20e=5B1D01BA%22%3Ehttps://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Sources.........
1. Nikolas Cruzhttps://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098
2. Dylan Kleboldhttps://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/
3. Jared Lee Loughner:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/
4. Adam Lanzahttps://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/
5. James Holmes(You have to be Jewish to be a counselor there) https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/
6. Elliot Rodgershttp://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/ (His father)
Not true, but it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 07:50:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 07:50:13 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 08:44:21 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 08:44:21 PM
I'll just leave this here......Quote from: "SCOUSE"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/%20...%20e=5B1D01BA%22%3Ehttps://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Sources.........
1. Nikolas Cruzhttps://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098
2. Dylan Kleboldhttps://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/
3. Jared Lee Loughner:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/
4. Adam Lanzahttps://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/
5. James Holmes(You have to be Jewish to be a counselor there) https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/
6. Elliot Rodgershttp://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/ (His father)
Not true, but it doesn't matter.
Ok I'll bite, what's not true?
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
A few of those animals have a crush on a certain dead dictator just like Scouse.Quote from: "seoulbro"
Kim Jong Un? I thought he was your man-crush?
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
I'll just leave this here......Quote from: "SCOUSE"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/%20...%20e=5B1D01BA%22%3Ehttps://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Sources.........
1. Nikolas Cruzhttps://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098
2. Dylan Kleboldhttps://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/
3. Jared Lee Loughner:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/
4. Adam Lanzahttps://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/
5. James Holmes(You have to be Jewish to be a counselor there) https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/
6. Elliot Rodgershttp://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/ (His father)
Not true, but it doesn't matter.
Ok I'll bite, what's not true?ac_dunno
I took a look and some of them subscribed to the same brainwashing that you do...
It doesn't really matter though as none of these mass killings were motivated by anything other than mental illness.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:05:26 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:05:26 PM
I'll just leave this here......Quote from: "SCOUSE"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/%20...%20e=5B1D01BA%22%3Ehttps://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168724_2054481131488955_3374314322389066929_n.jpg?oh=0747b7edf11bbeebcab52f04227089cf&oe=5B1D01BA%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Sources.........
1. Nikolas Cruzhttps://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098
2. Dylan Kleboldhttps://www.jweekly.com/1999/04/30/dylan-klebold-led-life-of-religious-contradictions/
3. Jared Lee Loughner:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message/2/
4. Adam Lanzahttps://heloise8.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/lanza-is-an-ethnic-italian-jewish-name/
5. James Holmes(You have to be Jewish to be a counselor there) https://www.timesofisrael.com/colorado-shooter-was-counselor-at-jewish-camp/
6. Elliot Rodgershttp://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/ (His father)
Not true, but it doesn't matter.
Ok I'll bite, what's not true?ac_dunno
I took a look and some of them subscribed to the same brainwashing that you do...
It doesn't really matter though as none of these mass killings were motivated by anything other than mental illness.
And drugs looking at the state of some of the mugshots....
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:18:13 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:18:13 PM
"In one post about his biological mother, Cruz said: "My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her," according to CNN. He also said that he hated Jews because he believed they wanted to destroy the world.".
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:19:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:19:38 PM
"He admired Hitler, yet his great-great grandfather was a respected Jewish philanthropist in Ohio.
His mother considered herself Jewish, yet the family belonged to a Lutheran church."
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: cc on February 19, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Post by: cc on February 19, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Ok I'll bite, what's not true?Quote
I broke my instincts for a moment in time ... and looked into one
"
1 for 1. Not a great start
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:24:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:24:05 PM
"Tierney believes that Loughner was very interested in pushing people's buttons—and that may have been why he listed Hitler's Mein Kampf as one of his favorite books on his YouTube page."
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
Ok I'll bite, what's not true?Quote
I broke my instincts for a moment in time ... and looked into one of your links
"Holmes himself is not Jewish, and was active in his family's Presbyterian church, according to the report."
1 for 1. Not a great start
They edited the article apparently. You have to be Jewish to be a councilor on that particular camp.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:27:21 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:27:21 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:28:08 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:28:08 PM
They edited the article apparently.
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Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
Like Fash says, mental illness is the common theme among those lot.
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Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:30:06 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:30:06 PM
They edited the article apparently.
ac_lmfao
AHEM!!
A: You must be Jewish and over the age of 21.''
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Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:30:50 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:30:50 PM
Make up your mind!!! I'm still calling plod.
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Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:34:23 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:34:23 PM
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Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
Like YOU!!!
Its 999 isn't it?
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Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:40:58 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:40:58 PM
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Post by: cc on February 19, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
Post by: cc on February 19, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
I wasn't aware that having sympathy for National Socialist Germany was a crime .....Quote
It's not. We have to wait for the bodies
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Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
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Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:47:43 PM
Post by: Aryan on February 19, 2018, 09:47:43 PM
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Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:55:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 09:55:28 PM
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Post by: Frood on February 19, 2018, 10:22:55 PM
Post by: Frood on February 19, 2018, 10:22:55 PM
if you were to ban guns in the US, criminals would keep their's and law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. And nothing would change (things might even get worse).Quote from: "Wazzzup"Most of those people marching probably think that harsher sentencing for criminals is mean and racist,but that would be something that would really make a difference. Unlike the banning that isn't going to happen anyway.
They oppose lengthy sentences for violent crimes.
ac_wot
I am certain those that lost loved ones have no problem with harsh sentencing.
Most in the antigun crowd are leftists. And they usually oppose harsh sentences for violent criminals. they'd rather blame guns than the people who shoot them.
Want to make a real difference in crime? Put people away for life on their second violent felony.
Put them on a secluded island with fellow repeat violent offenders and dedicate a satellite feed with drone AV for the masses to watch.
Each repeat offender gets a blanket, poncho, knife, flint, frypan, a kilo of drugs in condoms stuffed up their bums, blow up doll, and a small chest of chocolate and beans.
Then pop some corn and get comfy on the sofa for when they first arrive and are greeted by their brothers.
You're a sad little fuck, aren't you?
Isn't there an unlicked window on a small bus you should be attending to right now, mongo?
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Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 10:28:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 10:28:51 PM
The only thing that the school shooters have in common that we know for certain is mental health ptoblems. Unlike the Fort Hood and Orlando killers who were motivated by a certain ideology.
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Post by: Berry Sweet on February 19, 2018, 10:37:18 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 19, 2018, 10:37:18 PM
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Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 11:11:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2018, 11:11:06 PM
I would never want to live in the US.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
I'm not real crazy about Trudeau's Canada either.
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Post by: Berry Sweet on February 19, 2018, 11:28:41 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on February 19, 2018, 11:28:41 PM
I would never want to live in the US.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
I'm not real crazy about Trudeau's Canada either.
Canada is better than the US but Imdont care for JT either. I thought he was alright when he first started but now he's all fluff, but then again all politicians seem to turn that way after getting a taste of their power. I do not like how has giving out money to other countries and not helping his own people...seems like has trying to get people all over the world to favor him rather than helping his own people in his own country.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 11:52:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 19, 2018, 11:52:16 PM
Isn't there an unlicked window on a small bus you should be attending to right now, mongo?
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Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 12:29:37 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 12:29:37 AM
Isn't there an unlicked window on a small bus you should be attending to right now, mongo?(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk%2Fi%2Fnow-its-just-getting-sad.png&f=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=htt%20...%20ad.png&f=1%22%3Ehttps://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk%2Fi%2Fnow-its-just-getting-sad.png&f=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
You're right. It is getting sad. You follow me around like a sad puppy dog because I refuse to video or audio chat with a lonely old grandpa man.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 12:33:35 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 12:33:35 AM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 12:36:47 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 12:36:47 AM
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Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 12:38:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 12:38:54 AM
Want to make a school virtually shooting proof? Only allow people to enter and exit one entrance. Set a up a metal detector and a security guard at that entrance.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
That's not very practical in large public schools with more than two thousand students.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 12:44:40 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 12:44:40 AM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
Want to make a school virtually shooting proof? Only allow people to enter and exit one entrance. Set a up a metal detector and a security guard at that entrance.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
What will be the cost of that, and how effective would it be? What are you saying when you turn schools into fortresses?
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Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 12:51:12 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 12:51:12 AM
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Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:22:14 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 20, 2018, 01:22:14 AM
Someone has to start listening and showing REAL political courage.Quote from: "Bricktop"
You can march with the rest of the Buddy Holly glasses wearing left-wing unemployed clowns. Maybe you could switch over later that afternoon and join an anti-pipeline protest also.
You have no understanding of the US, and their gun culture and laws.
March away, old man. It will make no difference.
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Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 01:59:04 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 01:59:04 AM
Want to make a school virtually shooting proof? Only allow people to enter and exit one entrance. Set a up a metal detector and a security guard at that entrance.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
That's not very practical in large public schools with more than two thousand students.
For a bigger school Buy 3 or 4 more metal detectors and hire extra security to cover the morning rush.
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Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
Want to make a school virtually shooting proof? Only allow people to enter and exit one entrance. Set a up a metal detector and a security guard at that entrance.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
This is similar to how my son's school was. One entrance, rest of the doors locked. The one entrance was also locked, you had to buzz the intercom, which had a camera, and once you gained entry you had to report to the office, which was as soon as you came in. There was also a local police officer on the premises.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 12:47:03 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 12:47:03 PM
Too many guns in the USA for any type of recall. Grandfather ones in and ban automatic weapons.
Automatic weapons are already illegal here.
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Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
Too many guns in the USA for any type of recall. Grandfather ones in and ban automatic weapons.
Automatic weapons are already illegal here.
I thought Virginia allowed it, but it's frickin expensive to get a permit.
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Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 01:01:16 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 01:01:16 PM
Too many guns in the USA for any type of recall. Grandfather ones in and ban automatic weapons.
Automatic weapons are already illegal here.
I thought Virginia allowed it, but it's frickin expensive to get a permit.
Not that I know of. If a permit allows one to get one, then yeah it has to be expensive. Even 20 years ago, a hellfire attachment was also illegal, which it was basically an add on that made a gun an automatic.
I got my son a .22 a few years back, before they started cracking down on magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. I bought 4 25 round clips for it. You can pop all 100 rounds off in less than 2 minutes. However fast you can pull the trigger. Its no different than a semi-auto pistol, where once cocked it fires when you pull.
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Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:10:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:10:30 PM
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Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 01:25:18 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 01:25:18 PM
My understanding is that US federal law "taxes" automatic weapons like a ban, but most states permit them. I will check that or maybe kiebers knows. Damn, where is Renee when we need her.Quote from: "Herman"
Hmm, that may be the case. But average Joe can not simply buy an automatic weapon.
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Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:41:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2018, 01:41:02 PM
My understanding is that US federal law "taxes" automatic weapons like a ban, but most states permit them. I will check that or maybe kiebers knows. Damn, where is Renee when we need her.Quote from: "Herman"
Hmm, that may be the case. But average Joe can not simply buy an automatic weapon.
Here's what wikipedia has to say about gun law in your state.
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Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 02:06:57 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 20, 2018, 02:06:57 PM
Here's what wikipedia has to say about gun law in your state.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Virginia
Thanks Herman! You were right lol.
I see now they have classified a clip with more than 20 rounds an assault weapon.
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Post by: kiebers on February 20, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Post by: kiebers on February 20, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
As far as fencing the schools, this has been done for years. My high school was fenced in back in the 60's when I was going. Granted, more for the kids that were skipping classes but a "security" purpose was there intentional or not. We didn't think of it in terms of making our schools fortresses but keeping the kids in school.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
Outside of that, I have yet to see a reasoned, sensible and rational argument that says gun ownership is a good thing. Or at least an argument that cannot be shot down (pun intended) in less than a minute.
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Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 05:54:56 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 05:54:56 PM
He's a State worshipping dipshit.
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Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 06:12:50 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 06:12:50 PM
I'm still waiting...and have been for many years...for someone to actually explain why private citizens should possess a firearm. Exemptions can include for sporting purposes, for employment purposes, for farmers and private security companies.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Outside of that, I have yet to see a reasoned, sensible and rational argument that says gun ownership is a good thing. Or at least an argument that cannot be shot down (pun intended) in less than a minute.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 07:56:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 07:56:05 PM
What an absurd proposition for the 21st century. Much like all utterings from a time long gone.
Bill Gates once said there was probably a demand for 6 computers only.
Americans seem to believe that their past masters had some providential wisdom that overrides all current knowledge and experience. You revere these politicians far too much. Many caused far more suffering than sense.
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Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 08:08:59 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 08:08:59 PM
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Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 08:41:39 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 08:41:39 PM
So according to Jefferson, EVERYONE should own a gun...to ensure the government plays ball.Quote from: "Bricktop"
What an absurd proposition for the 21st century. Much like all utterings from a time long gone.
Bill Gates once said there was probably a demand for 6 computers only.
Americans seem to believe that their past masters had some providential wisdom that overrides all current knowledge and experience. You revere these politicians far too much. Many caused far more suffering than sense.
Its not an antiquated notion, the norm in the world is still tyrannical government across most continents. Just because the US government or any other is not that bad at this moment doesn't mean they never will be. Especially with the tyrannical left taking away people's freedoms all over the place.
Switzerland is overflowing with guns yet they have very little gun crime, so the idea that more guns always equals more crime is simply not true. (overall, its more likely due to US demographics as I pointed out before)
School shootings are a seperate matter, as I said, if you want to get rid of school shootings. only allow people in one entrance going through metal detectors and have an armed security guard. That will stop it.
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Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 09:39:33 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 20, 2018, 09:39:33 PM
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Post by: Thiel on February 20, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
Post by: Thiel on February 20, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
BTWQuote from: "Wazzzup"http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/behind-various-anti-gun-movements-popping-parkland/
I knew Soros would seize on this.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
So according to Jefferson, EVERYONE should own a gun...to ensure the government plays ball.Quote from: "Bricktop"
What an absurd proposition for the 21st century. Much like all utterings from a time long gone.
Bill Gates once said there was probably a demand for 6 computers only.
Americans seem to believe that their past masters had some providential wisdom that overrides all current knowledge and experience. You revere these politicians far too much. Many caused far more suffering than sense.
Its not an antiquated notion, the norm in the world is still tyrannical government across most continents. Just because the US government or any other is not that bad at this moment doesn't mean they never will be. Especially with the tyrannical left taking away people's freedoms all over the place.
Switzerland is overflowing with guns yet they have very little gun crime, so the idea that more guns always equals more crime is simply not true. (overall, its more likely due to US demographics as I pointed out before)
School shootings are a seperate matter, as I said, if you want to get rid of school shootings. only allow people in one entrance going through metal detectors and have an armed security guard. That will stop it.
The logic simply does not add up.
What you are saying is that preparation for a civil war is sufficient reason to own a military level firearm??
And in a country that cannot manage its CURRENT level of firearm ownership?
This is insanity at its finest.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 10:25:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 10:25:31 PM
Mr State Penis Tastes Yummy has spoken.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna":crazy:
Rather than subside into jejune and vacuous vulgarity,
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Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 10:31:34 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2018, 10:31:34 PM
It's mental illness cloaked in a one sided debate.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 11:37:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2018, 11:37:10 PM
You're all mouth. No substance. The same old Freud.
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Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 12:53:09 AM
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 12:53:09 AM
Having the ability to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your property from individuals, collectives, or top down organisations should be reason enough for any logical and free spirited individual with a conscience.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 02:22:54 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 02:22:54 AM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 02:59:39 AM
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 02:59:39 AM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 21, 2018, 12:45:33 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 21, 2018, 12:45:33 PM
So according to Jefferson, EVERYONE should own a gun...to ensure the government plays ball.Quote from: "Bricktop"
What an absurd proposition for the 21st century. Much like all utterings from a time long gone.
Bill Gates once said there was probably a demand for 6 computers only.
Americans seem to believe that their past masters had some providential wisdom that overrides all current knowledge and experience. You revere these politicians far too much. Many caused far more suffering than sense.
Its not an antiquated notion, the norm in the world is still tyrannical government across most continents. Just because the US government or any other is not that bad at this moment doesn't mean they never will be. Especially with the tyrannical left taking away people's freedoms all over the place.
Switzerland is overflowing with guns yet they have very little gun crime, so the idea that more guns always equals more crime is simply not true. (overall, its more likely due to US demographics as I pointed out before)
School shootings are a seperate matter, as I said, if you want to get rid of school shootings. only allow people in one entrance going through metal detectors and have an armed security guard. That will stop it.
The logic simply does not add up.
What you are saying is that preparation for a civil war is sufficient reason to own a military level firearm??
And in a country that cannot manage its CURRENT level of firearm ownership?
This is insanity at its finest.
We just came close to a coup against an elected president, and may still have one, so tyranny is never far away.
And I don't think people need to own Ar15s. But if someone wants to own a gun to hunt and protect their property and lives they should have that right, and they do, because it is part of our constitution.
As to cannot manage. Switzerland has lots of guns but very little gun crime. You have yet to show that crime in the US is due to availablility of guns instead of some other reason, like the one I mentioned before--Demographics. Or that a gun ban would even work.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
None of your business.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That's what I thought.
Once again, you prove beyond doubt you are nothing but an airhorn.
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Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
We just came close to a coup against an elected president, and may still have one, so tyranny is never far away.
And so gun ownership would somehow avert this? How?
And I don't think people need to own Ar15s. But if someone wants to own a gun to hunt and protect their property and lives they should have that right, and they do, because it is part of our constitution.Quote
So, what you're saying is that owning a gun to protect your flat panel TV and iPad, even though that ownership contributes to the slaughter of children in a school, is OK? Does it not occur to you, seeing as you raise the issue of "crime" (I did not) that if the crime rate in the US and Switzerland is roughly equivalent, that gun ownership does NOT affect the rate of "crime"?
You have yet to show that crime in the US is due to availablility of guns instead of some other reason, like the one I mentioned before--Demographics. Or that a gun ban would even work.Quote
I have not raised the issue of "crime". You are the one interspersing two issues into one. I merely address the amount of deaths by gunfire in the US. TEN times the closest rate in other developed countries. Mass murder on an unprecedented scale, and increasing. Whilst murder is a crime, robberies, shoplifting, rape and driving DUI are NOT salient to this discussion.
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Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
We just came close to a coup against an elected president, and may still have one, so tyranny is never far away.
And so gun ownership would somehow avert this? How?
First, you were asking about if gun ownership would aid to avert a coup. Its not so much about averting. Maybe your culture there is different, but here there are still fucks that take pleasure in hating, robbing, maiming, etc. In the event of a coup, and civil unrest breaks out, you will need to defend your family and your shit that will help you survive. When the thugs come with THEIR guns, they will kill you and take yo shit. Rallying over a coup is a whole nother ball game, I dont know if I wanna even get into the logistics of that lol.
So, what you're saying is that owning a gun to protect your flat panel TV and iPad, even though that ownership contributes to the slaughter of children in a school, is OK?
Here you are basically saying that no one, including cops, should have a gun... because they contribute to the slaughter of children. While you were a cop, you carried a gun right? Why not just a billy stick if this was your belief? I say, its cause you have gotten older, that you think this is the way the world should be, "no guns = safe world where no one dies". But this is not the case. People will still kill and rob, only with knives, swords or whatever weapon they want to use. The guns are not killing folks, its the people pulling the trigger.
The world is not civilized Brick, all it would take is an EMP or some shit and people will go bat shit crazy, spinning into utter chaos. Folks will do what they feel they need to do to stay alive, even if it means beating you up for that pack of crackers. I would like to have a standing chance against anyone or group of people trying to pull some shit like that on me. Wouldnt you?
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 07:22:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 07:22:15 PM
Humans are much the same the world over. Criminals get guns everywhere (usually made in America). But in EVERY other country, private gun ownership is heavily controlled and prohibited. Yet these countries are not overrun with gun toting robbers and thieves. Why is that?
Why is only America so paranoid about property crime? Why did you justify gun ownership by this measure?
17 kids died because a lunatic obtained a gun legally. This is because Americans demand access to these killing machines. Every gun owner had his or hand on the trigger in Florida, Las Vegas and elsewhere by creating a contributing to a community that is so afraid, it is compelled to own a gun.
Oh, and a 200 year old document drawn up by people who could never foresee the diabolical mess America is in says so.
Ludicrous.
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Post by: Wazzzup on February 21, 2018, 07:47:42 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 21, 2018, 07:47:42 PM
So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.Quote
That's not all. There were also 27% more casualties from 2009 to 2015 per mass shooting incident in the European Union than in the U.S.
"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."
"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."
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Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
That, it seems to me, is a very "American" view of the world, that is not shared by many, if any, other nations.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Humans are much the same the world over. Criminals get guns everywhere (usually made in America). But in EVERY other country, private gun ownership is heavily controlled and prohibited. Yet these countries are not overrun with gun toting robbers and thieves. Why is that?
Why is only America so paranoid about property crime? Why did you justify gun ownership by this measure?
17 kids died because a lunatic obtained a gun legally. This is because Americans demand access to these killing machines. Every gun owner had his or hand on the trigger in Florida, Las Vegas and elsewhere by creating a contributing to a community that is so afraid, it is compelled to own a gun.
Oh, and a 200 year old document drawn up by people who could never foresee the diabolical mess America is in says so.
Ludicrous.
Wazzzup has posted things regarding statistics on crime, and has also stated that practically half of those gun related events were suicide. Black on black crime is way up there on the chart as well. They are raised to be that way, in the poverty areas. I was raised in those areas for some of my youth. They dont give a fuck, and will fuck over who they want when they want if it helps them buy a 40 oz and a cheeseburger. I believe some of those areas, where gun laws are more restricted, the rate of the thugs doing bad shit goes up. Because they KNOW no one is gonna stop 'em.
As far as property crime, I dont have much property, so it aint that with me. Its more so knowing in the event of something that I can defend my family, or hold on to the things that will help me survive like food and water and such. The forest aint tame either, we deal with bears and such here. Not saying the first thing Im gonna do is shoot one, nah I'll try and scare it first, but if it charges me, then I'll do what I have to do.
You cant say that about every gun owner had his finger on the trigger. No, because this was a case of a fucked up individual. That gun didnt go skipping off to school and decide it was self aware and had its own agenda. This kid coulda brought a sword to school and started hacking away, or a knife, or a bat, or drove them down with a car when the bell released them at the end of the day, all controlled by an individual.
The forefathers, they would already be pissed if they knew the shit going on today
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 08:31:17 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 08:31:17 PM
Thus, if Americans are part of the demand for a gun industry, they are all culpable if they support that industry.
Its the same argument for islam. Many, like me, blame ALL of islam for nurturing extremists. Its only the crazy minority that commit acts of terror, but we hold all muslims accountable, and rightly so.
By that logic alone, if you own a gun in America, you are part of the problem.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 08:40:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 08:40:31 PM
"There was a shooting at a school there in 1999," he said, perhaps confused by the date and location of the massacre.
"After that they took a lot of ideas, put legislation together and they stopped it.
"Can anyone guess how many shooting there have been in a school since then in Australia? Zero.
"We need to do something, that's why we're here. So let's be strong for the fallen who don't have a voice to speak any more, and never let this happen again."
While getting the year wrong, Sam was referencing the deadly massacre in Tasmania in 1996, when Martin Bryant went on a rampage, killing 35 people and injuring 23 others.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 08:41:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 08:41:42 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
None of your business.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That's what I thought.
Once again, you prove beyond doubt you are nothing but an airhorn.
You don't think. That's your main problem.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 09:29:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 09:29:15 PM
Nothing changes. You always were and always will be a loud mouthed imbecile.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 10:22:18 PM
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2018, 10:22:18 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 10:46:14 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 10:46:14 PM
That gun would NOT have been available to anyone if people didn't want to be armed. Those gun shops exist to make a profit from demand.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Thus, if Americans are part of the demand for a gun industry, they are all culpable if they support that industry.
Its the same argument for islam. Many, like me, blame ALL of islam for nurturing extremists. Its only the crazy minority that commit acts of terror, but we hold all muslims accountable, and rightly so.
By that logic alone, if you own a gun in America, you are part of the problem.
I love me some venison though. You are EVIL Brick! Takin' mah dur meet!
What about Fast and Furious, where our own corrupt government purposely gave guns to peeps who shouldnt have them. I find many reasons every day that support the notion I may one day need one. I wont be the defenseless civilian.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 11:21:53 PM
Post by: Blazor on February 21, 2018, 11:21:53 PM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
I wont be the defenseless civilian.Quote from: "Blazor"
Then you'd probably be a dead one.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Frood on February 22, 2018, 12:03:55 AM
Post by: Frood on February 22, 2018, 12:03:55 AM
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: Wazzzup on February 22, 2018, 12:48:17 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on February 22, 2018, 12:48:17 AM
And so gun ownership would somehow avert this? How?
If a tyrannical government were in place then people with guns would be the only recourse. Also, as blazor wrote, a gun is good protection in times of chaos. I bought a gun the day after the LA riots. I live a couple of miles away from a bad area, if there are riots I may have to protect mine and my families lives.
BTW guns also protect women who have exes who stalk them or anyone else who is threatened, many people have used guns to save their lives against intruders. And at times shooters have taken out would be mass murderers. You're idea that they serve no good purpose in the hands of civilians is not founded.
Humans are much the same the world over.Quote
No, they are not. Look at Australias aboriginal population they commit violent crimes way higher then other Australians. Same with Blacks in America as compared to whites.
But in EVERY other country, private gun ownership is heavily controlled and prohibited. Yet these countries are not overrun with gun toting robbers and thieves. Why is that?Quote
This is just plain untrue. Two examples to illustrate the point--Mexico has very tight gun laws, their murder rate (20) is 4 times the US rate (just under 5). Switzerland has very lax gunlaws like the US, and their murder rate is .69, which is less than Australias 1.2
Thus, if Americans are part of the demand for a gun industry, they are all culpable if they support that industry... if you own a gun in America, you are part of the problem.Quote
Well then I guess every time a car accident kills someone, every car owner is part of the problem. And every time someone is stabbed chefs should feel guilty.
Title: Re: If I were in the US, I'd march with them.
Post by: realgrimm on February 22, 2018, 12:51:44 AM
Post by: realgrimm on February 22, 2018, 12:51:44 AM
