Title: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 04:28:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 04:28:18 PM
The repercussions of the pipeline shortage that are causing massive discounts in Canadian heavy oil extend well beyond Alberta, warn Scotiabank economists
CALGARY – Lack of pipelines and massive discounts for Canadian heavy oil could cost the economy $15.6 billion this year, or three-fourths of a point from the country's GDP, according to economists at Scotiabank.
"Reliance on the existing pipeline network and rail shipments to bring Canadian oil to market has a demonstrable impact on Canada's well-being, with consequences that extend well beyond Alberta," Scotiabank senior vice-president and chief economist Jean-Francois Perrault and commodity economist Rory Johnston wrote in a report released Tuesday.
The economists said the current roughly US$24 per barrel discount between Western Canada Select and West Texas Intermediate oil prices would erase $15.6 billion from the economy this year, or around 0.75 per cent of the country's GDP.
Scotiabank called the delay of new export pipelines and the large discounts that it has triggered, "a self-inflicted wound."
"The sooner governments move to allow additional pipeline capacity to be built, the better off Canada will be," Scotiabank economists Perrault and Johnston wrote.
Kinder Morgan Canada's $7.4-billion Trans Mountain expansion, TransCanada Corp.'s US$8-billion Keystone XL and Enbridge Inc.'s $8.2-billion Line 3 replacement project are the three major export pipelines that could shrink the discount considerably, the bank said.
While all three have been approved by the Canadian government, they remain mired in court challenges from environmental groups or local communities, and have delayed their anticipated in-service dates. Line 3 is also awaiting approval from regulators in Minnesota.
Enbridge president and CEO Al Monaco said last week that surging oil production and limited pipeline capacity means the Line 3 project will be completely full when it is finished construction in 2019, if the regulators approve the project by the second quarter.
Separate from the approved pipelines, the Canadian federal government has also recently unveiled a new review process for pipelines, which could complicate future assessments of new projects, according to analysts.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 06:32:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 06:32:27 PM
Carbon taxes, higher taxes of all kinds and new stifling regulations don't help either.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 07:45:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 07:45:50 PM
This is a war waged on Canada's working class by foreign billionaires.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
Think about that for a second. The US exports coal to Canada to get it to world markets because environmentalists won't allow it to flow through their ports back home. BC is actually expanding its ports to deal with increased coal shipments, both imports from the US and homegrown production.
et's be very clear about what's happening here. BC is one of the most vocal critics of fossil fuels and one of the largest proponents of greener economies. The coastline is therefore all but off limits to natural gas or oil export, all in the name of the environment. Yet coal is not only produced and shipped from BC to the world, but our nation accepts shipments from the US because American producers can't get it through their own ports on account of the environmental negativity of coal.
It's a bit hard to see how a civilized country got to this state. It did have some help from the tactics of the climate change industry. As one example, the world has developed an irrational hatred of Canada's oilsands simply because of the sheer size of them and the fact that they are operated transparently. It's odd that heavy oil deposits in Venezuela and even California don't seem to bother anyone. Environmentalists ignited the imaginations of the lowest common denominator by pointing out how much carbon would be released if all the oil sands were burned.
Do we ban campfires on the logic that burning every tree on the planet would raise the earth's temperature? Do we condemn solar panels because if the world was covered with them we couldn't grow vegetables? Don't scoff. Those scenarios are no more ludicrous than the suggestion that we could or would burn all the oil in the oilsands. It is shockingly dishonest to even imply that was anyone's plan, vision, or hope.
At the same time, Canadian natural gas exports are a fading dream as potential exporters tire of the ridiculous battles and simply fade away. These developments are particularly interesting in light of the impact natural gas has on the environment relative to coal.
BC is green-lighting coal exports, it is even expanding terminals to do so. But coal is the real culprit in manmade emissions. Coal generates 25 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, the oilsands about 0.1 percent. Further, oil sands emissions are only slightly higher than other forms of crude, so replacing the world's coal consumption with Canadian oil and natural gas would dramatically decrease global GHG emissions. Switching global coal consumption to natural gas would probably decrease GHG emissions by 20 percent alone, if natural gas burns at one-fifth the emissions level of coal.
Canada desperately needs leadership, or we will watch our standard of living recede to the point where the environment will be the last of our concerns.
The hypocrisy and irrationality is so blatant.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
BC happy to export US coal but not Canadian petroleum– that's bad for the environment and for Canada
Think about that for a second. The US exports coal to Canada to get it to world markets because environmentalists won't allow it to flow through their ports back home. BC is actually expanding its ports to deal with increased coal shipments, both imports from the US and homegrown production.
et's be very clear about what's happening here. BC is one of the most vocal critics of fossil fuels and one of the largest proponents of greener economies. The coastline is therefore all but off limits to natural gas or oil export, all in the name of the environment. Yet coal is not only produced and shipped from BC to the world, but our nation accepts shipments from the US because American producers can't get it through their own ports on account of the environmental negativity of coal.
It's a bit hard to see how a civilized country got to this state. It did have some help from the tactics of the climate change industry. As one example, the world has developed an irrational hatred of Canada's oilsands simply because of the sheer size of them and the fact that they are operated transparently. It's odd that heavy oil deposits in Venezuela and even California don't seem to bother anyone. Environmentalists ignited the imaginations of the lowest common denominator by pointing out how much carbon would be released if all the oil sands were burned.
Do we ban campfires on the logic that burning every tree on the planet would raise the earth's temperature? Do we condemn solar panels because if the world was covered with them we couldn't grow vegetables? Don't scoff. Those scenarios are no more ludicrous than the suggestion that we could or would burn all the oil in the oilsands. It is shockingly dishonest to even imply that was anyone's plan, vision, or hope.
At the same time, Canadian natural gas exports are a fading dream as potential exporters tire of the ridiculous battles and simply fade away. These developments are particularly interesting in light of the impact natural gas has on the environment relative to coal.
BC is green-lighting coal exports, it is even expanding terminals to do so. But coal is the real culprit in manmade emissions. Coal generates 25 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, the oilsands about 0.1 percent. Further, oil sands emissions are only slightly higher than other forms of crude, so replacing the world's coal consumption with Canadian oil and natural gas would dramatically decrease global GHG emissions. Switching global coal consumption to natural gas would probably decrease GHG emissions by 20 percent alone, if natural gas burns at one-fifth the emissions level of coal.
Canada desperately needs leadership, or we will watch our standard of living recede to the point where the environment will be the last of our concerns.https://boereport.com/2017/10/23/bc-happy-to-export-us-coal-but-not-canadian-petroleum-thats-bad-for-the-environment-and-for-canada/
The hypocrisy and irrationality is so blatant.
BC is playing politics. Their intrasigence it has nothing to do with climate or the environment.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 04:41:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 04:41:44 PM
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 10:51:00 PM
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
Nothead has hinted she may not raise the carbon tax annually as True Dope wants if the KMX doesn't get built. Puts the pressure on numbnuts to do his fucking job.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Premier Notley suspended the ban on BC wine today.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 01:31:41 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 01:31:41 AM
Not all of us here are left-wing tree-hugging welfare bums. Some of us understand the money has to come from somewhere, to fund social programs.
Hell, the fucking Indians and left-wing welfare bums here should support this, since they may get a 'pay raise' out of the deal!
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:11:51 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:11:51 AM
Since most of the posters here are from Alberta, just understand that I want the pipeline built also.Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Not all of us here are left-wing tree-hugging welfare bums. Some of us understand the money has to come from somewhere, to fund social programs.
Hell, the fucking Indians and left-wing welfare bums here should support this, since they may get a 'pay raise' out of the deal!
Shen Li, Priscilla, Velvet and I are from Alberta..
Herman is from Saskatchewan, realgrimm, Zetsu and Seoul are from Ontario, IHJ and Thiel are from Manitoba, DD and Bricktop are from Australia, Azhya, Wazzzup, shin and Blazor are Americans, SCOUSE and KAM are Bristish, you, cc and Berry Sweet are from the West coast, Odinson is unemployed and Lance, who knows..
Most of us are not from Alberta, but we all understand that blocking development is not very practical.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:16:24 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:16:24 AM
And is Kam really 'British' per se? When did Ireland become 'British?' I'm not that old, but when I grew up there was a difference... I don't think there is now.
Northern Ireland is different though... It's its own thing. Pretty White, but I don't think they've ever done that well, but I could be wrong, as I have never been to Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:22:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:22:37 AM
Odinson is Finnish.Quote from: "Angry White Male"
And is Kam really 'British' per se? When did Ireland become 'British?' I'm not that old, but when I grew up there was a difference... I don't think there is now.
Northern Ireland is different though... It's its own thing. Pretty White, but I don't think they've ever done that well, but I could be wrong, as I have never been to Northern Ireland.
KAM lives in England.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:24:29 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on February 23, 2018, 02:24:29 AM
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:30:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2018, 02:30:44 AM
I thought he was Irish?Quote from: "Angry White Male"
He might be, or he might be of Irish descent, but he lives in England.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
Volume is only one calculus. There are better gauges of leadership in today's unsettled world. Measured against any list, the Canadian oil and gas industry is setting the pace in carbon policy, environmental compliance, safety standards, indigenous collaboration, innovation, transparency, corporate governance, social responsibility and business competitiveness too.
The Trans Mountain Pipeline, the source of much contention these days. The sixty-five-year-old steel tube in the ground has many stories to tell. My favourite is the tale of the oil tanker Kimon.
THE KIMON SAGA
On a typically drizzly Vancouver day, the Kimon's Greek captain (I'll call him Nick) had docked uneventfully and was ready to take on its cargo: nearly 200,000 barrels of oil.
Hoses began filling the ship's hold, drawing oil from the white storage tanks on shore. The vessels were well stocked, having been filled with crude from the Trans Mountain pipeline. As its name implies, the pipe transports oil over two mountain ranges, first the Rocky Mountains then the Cascades. It's a 1,000 kilometre east-to-west journey from the oil fields of Alberta to the coast of British Columbia.
While the oil was loading, Captain Nick was planning the ship's 14,000 kilometre, nearly 30-day route. He would navigate through the Strait of Juan de Fuca, out to the Pacific Ocean, down the west coast of North America to the Panama Canal. There he would cut through to the Gulf of Mexico, around Florida, up the Atlantic Coast finally pulling into the St. Lawrence Seaway to the port of Montreal.
The date was Wednesday, November 21, 1973. Eastern Canada needed Alberta's oil as soon as possible.
The Arab Oil Embargo had been on for a month and fuel supplies were running short in countries that supported Israel. Those targeted included Canada, the United States, several European countries and Japan. All were cut back. All had to fend for themselves in securing vital supplies.
Winter was setting in and fuel for heating homes, generating electricity and gassing up big Buick's was getting lean. Shortages of oil in the western world were beginning to sow panic.
The only west-to-east, oil pipeline that delivered oil to Canada at the time was the Interprovincial Pipe Line system, but it only went as far east as Sarnia, Ontario. The Royal Commission on Energy rejected building a Edmonton – Montreal line in 1959, in large part because overseas oil — from producers like Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Iran and Iraq — was deemed plentiful, and buying from foreign sources was cheaper than building a pipe from Alberta.
Captain Nick and his crew knew the value of their ship's cargo, but as international sailors on a Greek-registered vessel they were indifferent to Canadian politics. Their job was to get oil from Alberta to fellow Canadians in the East. Yet it was hard for Nick not to scratch his head and opine to his fellow sailors.
"How is it," he wondered aloud, "that a country so rich in natural resources is not self-sufficient from coast-to-coast?"
"Don't know," shrugged Alex, the First Mate.
Finishing up his paperwork, Nick received a telegram that complicated his route planning. The Kimon would not be able to drop its cargo in Montreal. Nor would it be able to dock in any other eastern Canadian port. Cabotage rules—the statutes that prohibit foreign-owned ships from hauling cargo between two domestic ports—would not be waived, not even in this time of geopolitical crisis.
The instructions now were to dock and unload the Kimon's oil in Portland, Maine. From there, Alberta's oil would finally flow to Montreal via a U.S. pipeline (though this last leg of the journey was not Nick's concern).
After loading nearly 200,000 barrels of oil, Nick and his crew set sail on their journey. They arrived in Maine just before Christmas, 1973, though there was no time to celebrate.
By the time the oil crisis was over, six months later, the Kimon and sister ships like the Damianos, delivered 1.5 million barrels of oil per-month from Vancouver to Eastern Canada via the Panama Canal.
At first blush, the Kimon saga is a depressing indictment of Canada's energy circumstance. Sixty some years later, domestic detractors will highlight lingering deficiencies ranging from unresolved energy security; continuing foreign imports into eastern Canada; regulatory drag; and ongoing use of costly third-party transport routes and agents (for example, in the United States) to get oil and gas to market. Others can even point to the crisis of the day and say, "This is why we need to get off oil as soon as possible!"
None of these issues make a barrel half full or half empty. In other words, it's not so simple (I'll be addressing these issues in subsequent columns).
Despite the challenges, increasing volumes of Canadian oil and natural gas have found their way to markets over the past century, generating $100 billion of annual revenue and still kicking off cash flow to invest $800 million a week in this current downturn. Rounding errors are measured in millions of dollars daily; each dollar per barrel forfeited is highly consequential to the country's national accounts.
Except the Captain Nicks' are not necessarily Canadian. Why should a foreign-owned tanker and a U.S. pipeline take unnecessary "rent" out of our valuable barrels?
The thing that should aggravate all Canadians is that the flow of energy and capital is often sub-optimal from many dimensions, including safety, environment, security and finance. Too often, billions of dollars of taxes and royalties are unnecessarily forfeited to foreign interests. It's happening now with price discounts on heavy oils and natural gas too. As well, the eastern half of the country is becoming increasingly reliant on higher priced, non-Canadian sources of oil and natural gas. And contrary to mainstream belief, neither GHG reductions nor environmental interests are being well served by constricting Canadian hydrocarbons, either locally or globally.
Six decades after Captain Nick skirted an external blockade, Canada's high value resources feel blockaded from the inside out. As before, transit solutions will be found, and money will be made.
Yet left unchecked, those who gain from the periodic logjams will be tactical thinkers, mostly from outside, who act opportunistically to find solutions, even if they are suboptimal for the Canadian economy and environment. It's time for Canadians to think globally and act locally.
Despite outside interests(money) deliberately throwing up roadblocks against Canadian resources we are the gold standard in socially and environmentally produced oil and gas.
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2018, 12:54:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2018, 12:54:43 PM
Ottawa is said to be on the verge of exempting future oilsands developments from its new environmental assessment standards. Rumours have it the feds will agree to let Alberta's own assessment standards take precedence.Quote
This would be a good thing. Even though our NDP's new assessment standards are too harsh, they are not as harsh as the ones being proposed by the Trudeau government.
But as nice as this new concession from the federal government would be, it's largely meaningless so long as the Trudeau government forges ahead with its new rules for pipeline construction.
This latest news has all the earmarks of a political trade-off: The federal Liberals will grant us permission to develop the oilsands (even though the constitution probably didn't require their permission in the first place), but they will deny us the pipelines we need to get our oil and bitumen to markets.Unless and until the Trudeau government is prepared to withdraw its new assessment standards for major pipelines, the "victory" it will grant Alberta over the oilsands will be hollow, at best.
Should the exemption for oilsands developments be agree to, expect a lot of clucking and crowing from the Alberta NDP government over how their carbon tax/Climate Leadership/"social licence" plan has paid off.
The Notley government will tell us the doubters were wrong; that Premier Rachel Notley's cooperation with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau DID work out.
Butif we get only the oilsands concession and no change in proposed pipeline legislation, just what has the Alberta government achieved?We'll be able to mine bitumen and pump oil to our heart's content, but we won't be able to ship it anywhere, except (expensively and inefficiently) by rail.
For instance, lawyers studying Ottawa's new requirement thatall future pipelines be subjected to a "gender-based analysis" confess to being confused by just how such an analysis would work.
Just how does "the intersection of sex and gender with other identity factors" impact pipelines? And, more importantly, how are pipeline companies supposed to prove to federal regulators that they have satisfied the gender-based tests?
Pipeline builders already spend hundreds of millions surveying the impact of their projects on people, communities, water, animals, plants, even insects – yes, insects – along their proposed routes. But now federal approval might hinge on whether construction camps have enough female and "gender-diverse" workers.
And if activists tell federal regulators they are worried the temporary presence of so many male workers will lead to more violence against local women or might increase the income gap between the sexes, that might prevent approval, too.
The Trudeau government isn't backing away, either, from its insistence that Indigenous "traditional knowledge" be given equal standing with scientific research during the approval process. Nor is it weakening its requirement that pipeline companies account for all the upstream and downstream emissions of the products they carry.
With all these new federal obstacles to pipelines – gender, Indigenous and environmental – it will be amazing if any company steps forward to risk billions on a new line from Alberta to anywhere.
Rather than jump through one federal regulatory hoop after another (with more hoops being added all the time), energy companies will simply pass Canada by. They will go the States and to countries such as Bahrain, Kazakhstan and Egypt, where the oil may be less plentiful, but where the governments are not run by Alice in Wonderland eco-zealots.
Already, Canada has dropped to the lower half of countries in the world in which to invest in oil and gas, and the rumoured new federal oil sands exemption will do nothing to improve that.http://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-rumoured-federal-oilsands-exemption-for-alberta-meaningless
Title: Re: Pipeline shortage to Cost the Canadian Economy $15.6 Billion this Year: Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2018, 01:01:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2018, 01:01:40 PM
If we can't trust our politician, who can we trust.