I ike the idea of taxing robots. A steep tax too. Where are governments going to get revenue for essential services like health care if workers have been replaced with technology.
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The report follows in the footsteps of thought-provoking, but under-questioned, work by two Oxford academics, Carl Frey and Michael Osborne. In 2013 they claimed that almost half of all US occupations were at a high risk of automation in the next 20 years. They later extended their analysis to the global economy, and found that an outright majority of jobs in advanced economies, more than two-thirds in India and fully three-quarters in China, were susceptible to replacement.
I'm concerned about technology replacing people.
All robots should pay the same tax as humans!!!
They'll replace us with robots which won't be properly shielded against EMP, then the sun will bring things to a halt with CME's one day. By then, people won't have the basic skills to look after themselves.
Son, they would only need a pencil sharpener to replace you.
A circumcision tool designed to be used on cops?
Not only is technology replacing workers, but we are bringing in more immigrants and refugees to compete for fewer jobs. A strong middle class is overrated anyway.
Although I take the point...won't they need people to build the robots, construct the components, and write the software?
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Usually when technology changes, people can adapt with it. Like when the Horse and buggy gave way to the car. People who made horse and buggies could go make cars. but when people are replaced by robots, where are they going to go?
I imagine it will sort itself out some way, but I can't picture it.
This will discourage innovation. No more taxes.
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Taxes discourage innovation. Taxation is theft and wealth redistribution. Just imagine the advances humanity could make without it being stolen from.
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Taxes discourage innovation. Taxation is theft and wealth redistribution. Just imagine the advances humanity could make without it being stolen from.
A new tax whether it be on carbon, or robots is not for the good of the people.
I might not agree with DD's POV on our police, but he's right that over taxing is no doubt isn't any better than theft, if not worst b/c a thief can be dealt with according to the law, but for taxation, the victim will is punished instead if he tries to evade or refuse paying his/her tax.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions. Make those that would put everyone out of work pay.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions
Running deficits, borrowing, and stealing from other programs.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions
Running deficits, borrowing, and stealing from other programs.
That's what Justine is doing now.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions
Running deficits, borrowing, and stealing from other programs.
That's what Justine is doing now.
Keynesian Economics. The tool of Tools.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions
Running deficits, borrowing, and stealing from other programs.
That's what Justine is doing now.
Keynesian Economics. The tool of Tools.
He only supported deficits in bad times. Justine wants to spend money we don't have permanently.
It's all a ponzi scheme on humans in their respective regions.
Using the tax system for social engineering is immoral.
That's called policing in the Western world.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions
Running deficits, borrowing, and stealing from other programs.
That's what Justine is doing now.
Keynesian Economics. The tool of Tools.
He only supported deficits in bad times. Justine wants to spend money we don't have permanently.
Today is federal budget day.
Their hand dives deeper into your pocket.
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I haven't looked at it yet. But, I read it is a virtue signalling piece of crap.
To no-one's surprise. Political ideology will drive us to war against each other.
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No tax cuts, but no tax increases, as far as I know.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
And this is why I don't want to work too hard or earn too much money, lol.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions. Make those that would put everyone out of work pay.
Common IHJ, you're an engineer yet you still seem obsessed with those manual labour intensive jobs that are meant for robots rather than humans.
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And besides that, there is no more room for tax increases or new taxes. In Ontario, where you and I live the top marginal tax rate is 53.5%. That doesn't include payroll taxes, sin taxes, excise taxes, and government fees. That is outright confiscation. Taxation is the problem, never a solution.
If there are fewer workers paying taxes, where do we get money for health and pensions. Make those that would put everyone out of work pay.
Common IHJ, you're an engineer yet you still seem obsessed with those manual labour intensive jobs that are meant for robots rather than humans.
Old Jock is a locomotive engineer. Basically, a train driver. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's a hell of lot of responsibility. Which is why they are paid so good.
There's not much to driving a train. Accelerate-slow down-stop. I guess we're all walking engineers too.
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Ya right. ac_toofunny
How are freight trains governed in "dark" territory?
Don't bother IHJ. Freud is an expert on pretty much everything.
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Ya right. ac_toofunny
How are freight trains governed in "dark" territory?
I'm just saying it's pretty straight forward. I got behind the controls once, supervised of course.
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Ya right. ac_toofunny
How are freight trains governed in "dark" territory?
I'm just saying it's pretty straight forward. I got behind the controls once, supervised of course.
Ya sure you did. :roll:
What's the first thing an engineer does upon entering the locomotive.
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Ya right. ac_toofunny
How are freight trains governed in "dark" territory?
I'm just saying it's pretty straight forward. I got behind the controls once, supervised of course.
Ya sure you did. :roll:
What's the first thing an engineer does upon entering the locomotive.
I actually had the controls for about 15 minutes or so, until I got bored with it. The two guys would coach me when needed, which was rare since it's a pretty mindless job. Mostly just speed adjustments.
No idea what a train driver (let's not say engineer. That's misleading) is meant to do. It was years back and a one time thing with me.
Look, I'm not bagging your job. We need people to drive trains just like we need semi truck drivers.
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Is this troll having fun with his bullshit. My Daddy was a division engineer for CN. I realize it's not running trades, but we do know a bit about railways. Aaron knows fuck all.
Good for your father. Does that mean you've also had a go driving a train?
I was once handed the controls of an aircraft during a joyflight.
That does not make me a pilot.
I'm not a train driver either. What I can tell you though is that it's not rocket science on how a vehicle on rails is driven. The bigger job is following the rules, not driving the actual train.
Wow...how do you contain so much knowledge, wisdom and experience in one single head.
I've had a charmed life. :thumbup:
The highlight being allowed to drive a choo choo under strict supervision.
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I've driven or had a go on lots of big contraptions I wasn't trained or licenced for, with and without supervision. ac_biggrin
Of course you have.
Ocean liners, F18's, F1 cars...you've been AROUND, man.
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Ocean liners, F18's, F1 cars...you've been AROUND, man.
None of those.
I did have a go on a smaller car ferry once. Did a few Cessna flights where I got to mess around in air. No F1 yet. Closest to that was a weekend at Mount Cotton at the Porsche Sport school. THAT was fun.
A big crane, a mining truck, a hovercraft, other things I'm sure I'm forgetting.
If given the opportunity, I'll have a spin. :thumbup:
Wow. Then you're an expert on EVERYTHING.
I'm impressed.
I certainly have an opinion based on experiences. Is there any other way?
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I'm impressed.
With the exception of class one railways. Unauthorized persons are not permitted to ride on track units, or equipment.
I got permission to ride but the driving bit was done on the down low.
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I'm impressed.
With the exception of class one railways. Unauthorized persons are not permitted to ride on track units, or equipment.
I kind of knew that..
Air Canada does not let passengers into the cockpit to play with the controls.
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Yes. There are opinions based on assumption, limited knowledge and fantasy.
Much like yours, actually.
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Yes. There are opinions based on assumption, limited knowledge and fantasy.
Much like yours, actually.
Trying to pull the wool over the eyes of a guy who is a hogger. I haven't seen such brazen bullshit since Fash schooled oddstain on his fake electrician trade.
Ol' Freud has always been a mass producer of bullshit.
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Yes. There are opinions based on assumption, limited knowledge and fantasy.
Much like yours, actually.
Trying to pull the wool over the eyes of a guy who is a hogger. I haven't seen such brazen bullshit since Fash schooled oddstain on his fake electrician trade.
And Joe's fake limo driving job.
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Ah, those were the days.
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Yes. There are opinions based on assumption, limited knowledge and fantasy.
Much like yours, actually.
Trying to pull the wool over the eyes of a guy who is a hogger. I haven't seen such brazen bullshit since Fash schooled oddstain on his fake electrician trade.
I posted about a true event and my opinion of the ease in operating the machinery. No wool or bullshit here, unless you count Bricktop's mewling.
Calm the farm, son.
No-one buys your bullshit.
And yet he can't cease mewling. ac_biggrin
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I'm impressed.
With the exception of class one railways. Unauthorized persons are not permitted to ride on track units, or equipment.
I'm aware of that. Too bad attention hounds are not.
Too bad some people can't make the distinction between different rules in different countries. Boy are those people dummies.
PKB, sunshine...PKB.
Pkb?
You'll figure it out.