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Warren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities
//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/
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Warren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities
//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/
I believe in accomodating people with disabilities when ever possible, but public safety comes first.
More gun madness in a psychopathic country.
With their heightened senses, it could be a good thing for them to know how to defend themselves if properly trained.
Adding yet another rock solid piece of evidence that you are a foaming idiot.
If you can't engage in an honest debate, you can't sit with us at the big person's table.
If you have to pretend you're someone you're not, you're hardly in a position to dictate who sits where.
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More gun madness in a psychopathic country.
I guess they'll never have to buy a scope for their rifles.
Its farcical. All it does it put THEIR lives at risk by making them think that if they have a firearm, they are somehow safer.
It puts them in a life threatening situation by default.
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SHERMAN, TX -- One Texoma man is proving it's possible to overcome any obstacle--If you just don't give up. He shows us how he's taken what some view as a handicap, and turned it into motivation to achieve his goals.
Competitive shooting. It's a sport that's popular across Texoma, with all sorts of people. John Flyum is one of them. But this durant resident's not your average shooter.
"I only see small portions of the target," Flyum said. "That's why it takes me longer to figure out what I need to shoot and what not to shoot."
Ten years ago, John was involved in a near-fatal motorcycle wreck, leaving him 95 percent blind.
While some people may see John's blindness as a handicap, through these doors he's just another one of the guys.
"After he showed safety and everything, and was safe on the range, he was good to go," said Jason Webb owner of Red River Firearms.
"There were some initial apprehensions, since he's blind. Within the first few minutes able to see he was a safe shooter, he had good handling skills, we went from there," said Howe Police Sergeant James Doyle.
John's pistol is equipped with special sights, and he memorizes the locations of the targets. He's shot in International Defensive Pistol Assocation, or IDPA matches, at ranges from Alaska to Ada, Paris, and Sherman, for more than a year.
His fellow shooters like Sergeant James Doyle, and Red River Firearms owner Jason Webb, say they know he's safe.
But for those who still question letting a blind man shoot a gun...
"I just take 'em out and show 'em I'm as safe as everyone else," Flyum said.
"He has a very good skill. Obviously his speed is slower because of his eyesight. Don't let it fool you for a minute, he's still a strong shooter," Doyle said.
John says shooting has become the light at the end of his tunnel.
And he got there by never considering his blindness as a handicap, and never giving up. The same advice he gives to everyone.
"I'm slower than the other shooters, but I hit my targets," Flyum said.
If you'd like more information about the IDPA, you can stop by Red River Firearms on Texoma Parkway in Sherman.
They're holding another match on Sunday afternoon, and of course, John Flyum will be there
http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/85444362.html
A 95% blind competition shooter who is safe and effective.
On a RANGE you vacuous and vapid needle jockey.
THIS is how blind people shoot on a range.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upFWxf5F-qQ
Off range, they may as well use a nerf gun.
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On a RANGE you vacuous and vapid needle jockey.
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I only see small portions of the target," Flyum said. "That's why it takes me longer to figure out what I need to shoot and what not to shoot
Why are you so stupid? Seriously.
I have mixed feelings on this one.
I was taught in gun safety class, that you are always to be sure of what you are firing at, and whats behind it. I also believe some folks have various levels of blindness, and some have extremely good hearing. To say all blind people should not have a firearm is a bit of a stretch, some indeed should still have that right if they want. If so, they should also first be run through a safety course, and another specializing with visual impairment. Only if they pass the courses could they obtain. As a matter of fact, EVERYONE should take a gun safety class before they ever handle a gun. Unless of course a good father figure shows their son proper gun safety, then sends him to the course for a completion certificate.
I think Dinky posted a good example of why, Brick did not post a good example of why not lol but it was funny. 2 of those folks I could see possibly having one, the other two should not have been there. And the fact that Kimmel was interrupting and making fun while the safety officer was going over things was not cool.
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I have mixed feelings on this one.
I was taught in gun safety class, that you are always to be sure of what you are firing at, and whats behind it. I also believe some folks have various levels of blindness, and some have extremely good hearing. To say all blind people should not have a firearm is a bit of a stretch, some indeed should still have that right if they want. If so, they should also first be run through a safety course, and another specializing with visual impairment. Only if they pass the courses could they obtain. As a matter of fact, EVERYONE should take a gun safety class before they ever handle a gun. Unless of course a good father figure shows their son proper gun safety, then sends him to the course for a completion certificate.
I think Dinky posted a good example of why, Brick did not post a good example of why not lol but it was funny. 2 of those folks I could see possibly having one, the other two should not have been there. And the fact that Kimmel was interrupting and making fun while the safety officer was going over things was not cool.
I agree 100% with that. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
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I think Dinky posted a good example of why, Brick did not post a good example of why not lol but it was funny. 2 of those folks I could see possibly having one, the other two should not have been there. And the fact that Kimmel was interrupting and making fun while the safety officer was going over things was not cool.
Perhaps I need to remind the gun lobby that I have stated quite clearly that if people wish to use firearms in a sporting context, I have no problem with that.
I definitely WOULD have a problem with a blind person trying to use a hand gun or rifle outside of a highly controlled environment.
Not good enough, Bricktop.
It's not up to authority junkies to decide who can defend themselves, who can target shoot at a range, and who has to die waiting 5-10 minutes so coward police officers like the ones in Broward County can show up and do nothing.
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Warren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities
//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/
Why not let the blind drive semis too.
With technology who knows what the blind can't do, Seoulbro.
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Not good enough, Bricktop.
It's not up to authority junkies to decide who can defend themselves, who can target shoot at a range, and who has to die waiting 5-10 minutes so coward police officers like the ones in Broward County can show up and do nothing.
Whether or not you think its "good enough", it is exactly up to authorities to best determine who, and under what circumstances, can a gun be carried, used or possessed.
Otherwise we end up like America, an example you are consistently and notably silent on.
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With technology who knows what the blind can't do, Seoulbro.
I suppose if driverless commercial vehicles become a reality. But, for liability reasons, I don't see that happening.
Driverless vehicles are decades away...if they in fact arrive at all.
Despite all the hype manufactured by vested interests, the change from driver to driverless is a massive undertaking that requires major and costly changes to infrastructure, law, and vehicle safety.
Its a niche technology, that will in all likelihood go nowhere.
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Driverless vehicles are decades away...if they in fact arrive at all.
I couldn't agree more.
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Warren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities
//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/
If they have people with them when they shoot, it's not a safety problem.
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Not good enough, Bricktop.
It's not up to authority junkies to decide who can defend themselves, who can target shoot at a range, and who has to die waiting 5-10 minutes so coward police officers like the ones in Broward County can show up and do nothing.
Whether or not you think its "good enough", it is exactly up to authorities to best determine who, and under what circumstances, can a gun be carried, used or possessed.
Otherwise we end up like America, an example you are consistently and notably silent on.
Does Big Daddy Gubmint taste creamy on your lips, you mewling little yes man.
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I have mixed feelings on this one.
I was taught in gun safety class, that you are always to be sure of what you are firing at, and whats behind it. I also believe some folks have various levels of blindness, and some have extremely good hearing. To say all blind people should not have a firearm is a bit of a stretch, some indeed should still have that right if they want. If so, they should also first be run through a safety course, and another specializing with visual impairment. Only if they pass the courses could they obtain. As a matter of fact, EVERYONE should take a gun safety class before they ever handle a gun. Unless of course a good father figure shows their son proper gun safety, then sends him to the course for a completion certificate.
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Good post. I would just add I had a relative who was blind, and I think many people don't realize how incredibly vulnerable blind people feel. Living in the dark or near darkness, a burglar could stand right in front of them and they might not even know it. If there is any way they can feel safer (and of course be safe for others) I would want to indulge them if possible.
Seriously?
A robber stands in front of a person holding a gun. It doesn't need an ophthalmologist to deduce that the person is blind.
Simply strike the victim on the hand..or head...and the gun changes partners.
Jesus...you people are BLIND.
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Warren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities
//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/
If they have people with them when they shoot, it's not a safety problem.
Do you mean supervised target practice in a safe area?
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Jesus...you people are BLIND.

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Jesus...you people are BLIND.

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I'm trying to think how Canada would handle licencing for a blind individual...
I've never thought of this before.
You have to take a test and fill out a form, but perhaps you can get assistance if you're disabled, with those forms.
Honestly, I bet they couldn't deny the blind firearms ownership here, as long as their record is clean of violent offenses and psychiatric issues.
Blind person - "I want a firearms licence".
Gun registrar - "Fill in this form"
Blind person - "What form?"
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Blind person - "I want a firearms licence".
Gun registrar - "Fill in this form"
Blind person - "What form?"
I'm serious. I do not believe they could restrict a blind person from owning a firearm here.
You have to understand, that Canada is a 'will issue' nation, meaning that unless there is a true and verified problem with the individual, you will be licenced.
A disability could easily be argued in the courts as discriminatory, and would most likely be ruled in favour of the disabled.
No Joke! Then again, I'm not too worried about some blind gimp shooting up a school or a public place. A blind gimp that takes the time to do shit right, is probably one of the more responsible firearms owners that you will meet.
I can only assume, but I'm not worried about teh gimpz...