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Title: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 04:16:34 PM
Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave (//http)



By nearly every account Timothy Locke is one of the most beloved teachers in the Cherry Hill, N.J., school district.



Locke is a veteran of the Iraq war and for the past 17 years he's flavored his classroom lessons at Cherry Hill East High School with real-life experiences.



But on Feb. 22, the veteran school teacher was summoned to the principal's office where his bag was searched, he was placed on administrative leave and was ordered to undergo a physical and a psychiatric evaluation.



According to parents and students Locke's only crime was to address his concerns about school safety with youngsters in his Advanced Placement History class.  The teacher feared a similar attack could happen at Cherry Hill East.



"During the course of the conversation he indicated that he would protect his students if something like (Parkland, Florida) happened here," parent Eric Ascalon told "The Todd Starnes Radio Show." "He was raising safety concerns about the school with the students. And the intent of his statement (was that) he would protect his students at all costs."



Imagine that, folks. An Iraq war veteran reassured his students that if someone tried to attack the school, he'd be there to protect them. That's a good thing, right?



Well, the leadership at Cherry Hill East felt otherwise after a student in the classroom complained
.
Title: Re: Gun Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
Students by the dozens staged a protest on campus Monday – urging the school to reinstate the teacher.



"A lot of what the school here is doing is trying to shut out what happened in Florida, instead of saying 'this is what we have to do, this is what we're going do next,' how we can fix what we are doing," sophomore Debbie Goldberg told ABC News.



"Mr. Locke, if you're watching, we got your back," said senior Justin Prechodko.



Ascalon said his son was enrolled in one of Locke's classes last year and called him an "amazing teacher who has an ability to connect with the students on a variety of levels."
Title: Re: Gun Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on February 27, 2018, 04:28:13 PM
We here at the Cashew (except Bricktop) have your back Mr. Locke!



That is some bullshit, fuck that principal.
Title: Re: Gun Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on February 27, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
I remember a few years ago, they were gonna ban camo at school cause they thought it was racist. My son's whole wardrobe at the time was camo. He launched a protest, and all his friends joined him, and spread the word that night, that the next day they would all wear camo. And they did, hundreds of students did. He was happy, school dropped the issue. That was a proud moment I had for my son  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Gun Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 27, 2018, 05:45:29 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"We here at the Cashew (except Bricktop) have your back Mr. Locke!


Wouldn't it be dull if we all held the same opinions!!!



 ac_boring
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
Schools safer today than in 1990s, study on shootings says



https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/27/schools-safer-today-1990s-study-shootings-says/



Despite the horror of the high school massacre in Florida, U.S. schools overall are safer today than they were in the early 1990s, and there is not an epidemic of such shootings, a new academic study is reporting.



Researchers at Northeastern University say mass school shootings are extremely rare, that shootings involving students have been declining since the 1990s, and four times as many children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today.



"There is not an epidemic of school shootings," said James Alan Fox, the Lipman Family Professor of Criminology, Law and Public Policy at Northeastern. He said more children die each year from pool drownings or bicycle accidents.



There are about 55 million school children in the U.S., the study said, and over the past 25 years, about 10 students on average per year were killed by gunfire at school.



The researchers used data collected by USA Today, the FBI's Supplementary Homicide Report, Congressional Research Service, Gun Violence Archive, Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries, Mother Jones, Everytown for Gun Safety, and a New York City Police Department report on active shooters.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 27, 2018, 05:56:18 PM
Another example of "studies" that actually have no relevance to reality.



The NUMBER of school slaughters is not the problem.



ONE is ONE too many. The rate of children been massacred in schools is neither here nor there to the 17 dead in Florida.



That "study" is like saying more people are killed in country music concerts than heavy metal.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 05:58:01 PM
Moving forward ...



Florida Gov. is officially in process of drastically revising all aspects of every department in the chain from law enforcement to social services to school councilors and every agency in between



(While not likely practical) the intention is to reduce killings to "0"



2 victims fathers will be full time involved indefinitely in seeing that all boxes get  checked and stay checked



They all hope to set the standard and also pressure all other states do likewise



Fine details to follow
Title: Re: Gun Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: "cc"Students by the dozens staged a protest on campus Monday – urging the school to reinstate the teacher.



"A lot of what the school here is doing is trying to shut out what happened in Florida, instead of saying 'this is what we have to do, this is what we're going do next,' how we can fix what we are doing," sophomore Debbie Goldberg told ABC News.



"Mr. Locke, if you're watching, we got your back," said senior Justin Prechodko.



Ascalon said his son was enrolled in one of Locke's classes last year and called him an "amazing teacher who has an ability to connect with the students on a variety of levels."

Do the parents think discussing it will cause emotional anguish or something like that?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 06:02:50 PM
I have no idea about the "thought" (or not) process of prog minds



It always seems that when presented with 2 roads at the fork (one logical and practical, one emotional and impractical), they choose the road to  "stupid"
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: "cc"I have no idea about the "thought" (or not) process of prog minds



It always seems that when presented with 2 roads at the fork (one logical and practical, one emotional and impractical), they choose the road to  "stupid"

EVERY FUCKING TIME!!
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 27, 2018, 07:16:20 PM
Quote from: "cc"I have no idea about the "thought" (or not) process of prog minds



It always seems that when presented with 2 roads at the fork (one logical and practical, one emotional and impractical), they choose the road to  "stupid"


Or on guns, the yellow Bricktopian road of stupid.



A very yellow road.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 27, 2018, 07:47:35 PM
Have you ever considered the option of installing an "off" switch.



People are getting fed up with this moronic and pointless derailing.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 27, 2018, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Have you ever considered the option of installing an "off" switch.



People are getting fed up with this moronic and pointless derailing.


All cool. I mostly just skim what you say. It's all good.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: "cc"Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave (//http)



By nearly every account Timothy Locke is one of the most beloved teachers in the Cherry Hill, N.J., school district.



Locke is a veteran of the Iraq war and for the past 17 years he's flavored his classroom lessons at Cherry Hill East High School with real-life experiences.



But on Feb. 22, the veteran school teacher was summoned to the principal's office where his bag was searched, he was placed on administrative leave and was ordered to undergo a physical and a psychiatric evaluation.



According to parents and students Locke's only crime was to address his concerns about school safety with youngsters in his Advanced Placement History class.  The teacher feared a similar attack could happen at Cherry Hill East.



"During the course of the conversation he indicated that he would protect his students if something like (Parkland, Florida) happened here," parent Eric Ascalon told "The Todd Starnes Radio Show." "He was raising safety concerns about the school with the students. And the intent of his statement (was that) he would protect his students at all costs."



Imagine that, folks. An Iraq war veteran reassured his students that if someone tried to attack the school, he'd be there to protect them. That's a good thing, right?



Well, the leadership at Cherry Hill East felt otherwise after a student in the classroom complained
.

The principal needs a psych exam.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 27, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
Has anyone considered that this teacher may be in fact claiming or implying that he is carrying a concealed weapon is his classroom, and that his actions may be inciting greater fear in the students?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2018, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Has anyone considered that this teacher may be in fact claiming or implying that he is carrying a concealed weapon is his classroom, and that his actions may be inciting greater fear in the students?

That would've been mentioned in the article.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 10:51:25 PM
QuoteHas anyone considered that this teacher may be in fact claiming or implying that he is carrying a concealed weapon is his classroom, and that his actions may be inciting greater fear in the students?

ummm ... NO!!
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 27, 2018, 10:55:43 PM
Why would a student be fearful of a teacher with a concealed weapon?



So dumb.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on February 27, 2018, 11:07:17 PM
Especially when there are many large  protests by his students supporting their all time favorite teacher
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Wazzzup on February 28, 2018, 12:53:33 AM
Good guys with guns



Illinois Concealed-Carry Permit Holder Uses AR-15 to Stop Stabbing

http://freebeacon.com/issues/illinois-concealed-carry-permit-holder-uses-ar-15-stop-stabbing/



[size=150]Carjacking suspect shot dead by man with concealed weapon in Wisconsin, police say[/size]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/27/carjacking-suspect-shot-dead-by-man-with-concealed-weapon-in-wisconsin-police-say.html
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 12:55:36 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Why would a student be fearful of a teacher with a concealed weapon?



So dumb.


That is not what I said, moron.



I am referring to him raising fear of a shooting in his students.



Teachers must adhere to policies...not act like a vigilante to impress the 12 year olds.
Title: Re: Gun Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 10:14:40 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"We here at the Cashew (except Bricktop) have your back Mr. Locke!


Wouldn't it be dull if we all held the same opinions!!!



 ac_boring


Be even duller if I didnt yank your chain now and then  :laugh:
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Why would a student be fearful of a teacher with a concealed weapon?



So dumb.


That is not what I said, moron.



I am referring to him raising fear of a shooting in his students.



Teachers must adhere to policies...not act like a vigilante to impress the 12 year olds.


Reassuring his students that he'd do everything to keep them safe is raising fear?



I'm not the moron between us.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 05:41:47 PM
When it is done to the degree that the class becomes pre-occupied with the issue is irresponsible.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 07:12:53 PM
One student caused the issue. The rest of his students are behind their teacher.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 07:17:40 PM
Oh, right.



Because "students" are great arbiters of appropriate teacher conduct.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Wazzzup on February 28, 2018, 07:41:57 PM
This shooting was a big moment for the left in America.  What we're seeing is high schools becoming more like colleges.



and high school kids becoming politicals activists like college students.



Apparently one of the groups funding the kids is the national organization of women (feminazis), and no doubt soros has his tentacles in there too.



This whole charade is another giant leap forward for full totalitarian leftist control of the US.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, right.



Because "students" are great arbiters of appropriate teacher conduct.


I think they were Seniors, which would put them around the age 18 roughly. Old enough to vote lol.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Wazzzup on February 28, 2018, 07:52:25 PM
https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/parkland-teens-organization?utm_term=.dxXEJY0ZNM#.jsZPoMGD6L


QuoteSeveral large progressive organizations, donors, and a high-powered public relations firm are backing the March for Our Lives movement, which is quickly evolving from a student-run social media effort to end gun violence into one backed by some of the most influential activists in the country.



Since then, major players and organizations — including Everytown, Giffords, Move On, Planned Parenthood, and the Women's March LA — told BuzzFeed News they are helping the students with logistics, strategy, and planning for next month's March for Our Lives rally and beyond. Much of the specific resources the groups are providing to the Parkland students remains unclear — as is the full list of supporting organizations — but there are broad outlines.



Everytown for Gun Safety — bankrolled mostly by Michael Bloomberg — recently secured a $1 million donation from entrepreneur and philanthropist Eli Broad.



MoveOn (soros NGO) said it will encourage its millions of members to follow and promote the March for Our Lives movement on social media and attend the rally next month. The group said it had offered support in organizing logistics such as security and portable toilets, but it is unclear if the students have taken them up on their offer.



A spokesperson for Planned Parenthood said the group is "teaching and hosting trainings" for young activists across the US "to keep momentum going so they don't get burned out."



Planned Parenthood said it has been in contact with Giffords, which is spearheading the national coalition of groups working with March for Our Lives.



Democratic US Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a Broward County resident for nearly 30 years, told BuzzFeed News she has been in touch with students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas since the day after the shooting, helping them connect to state legislators and plan their trip to Tallahassee last week.



Wasserman Schultz said that because this is the first time many of the students have interacted with legislators, she advised them on communication strategy. She also said she been in contact with Mark Kelly — Gabrielle Giffords' husband and one of the founders of the Giffords foundation.


How nice.  the worst of the left funding it and supporting it all.  The politicization of highschool kids, Another nail in the coffin of the United States.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, right.



Because "students" are great arbiters of appropriate teacher conduct.


I think they were Seniors, which would put them around the age 18 roughly. Old enough to vote lol.


Which is utterly ludicrous.



18 year olds know nothing about the world.



The age should be raised to 21, and only people who pay tax.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:02:21 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"This shooting was a big moment for the left in America.


I suspect it was a big moment for America, as more and more people see that rampant gun control is a really bad idea. It may well be a turning point when common sense starts to overwhelm obsession with killing implements.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, right.



Because "students" are great arbiters of appropriate teacher conduct.


You wouldn't have a problem with students standing up for a peer getting bullied in a study hall or on the school grounds. Why throw shade on them when they're standing up for a teacher getting bullied in the classroom?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on February 28, 2018, 08:26:58 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"


Which is utterly ludicrous.



18 year olds know nothing about the world.



The age should be raised to 21, and only people who pay tax.


For voting, yes I agree  :laugh:



Hell make it 25 at the rate they brainwash these chaps, give 'em a few years to experience the real world.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Works for me!!!



And you STILL have to be a taxpayer, no matter how old you are. You don't contribute, you don't get to say how the money is spent. Exceptions, of course...elderly, handicapped, out of work less than a year...
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 08:41:18 PM
Why not throw in landowner and male while you're at it.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2018, 09:05:46 PM
Because any person that contributes to the funding of the nation should have a say in how their money is spent.



You're not too bright, are you?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on February 28, 2018, 09:13:36 PM
Whoever likes being stolen from gets to chime in on how to best steal from others? Sounds like a theft cult.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2018, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Good guys with guns



Illinois Concealed-Carry Permit Holder Uses AR-15 to Stop Stabbing

http://freebeacon.com/issues/illinois-concealed-carry-permit-holder-uses-ar-15-stop-stabbing/




Good citizens. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Wazzzup on March 01, 2018, 12:53:17 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"This shooting was a big moment for the left in America.


I suspect it was a big moment for America, as more and more people see that rampant gun control is a really bad idea. It may well be a turning point when common sense starts to overwhelm obsession with killing implements.


Nope its a big turning point for the left

1.They have a discovered a new poliotical weapon--using high school kids to push their agenda.  Also

2. ignoring the real problem in this case --that the school system and Broward county PD and the FBI messed up horribly.  Th is is the real problem that will remain unsolved in order to chase the gun red herring.



Guns aren't the problem, at least not the majority of it.  The Czech republic  and Switzerland have gun obtainability like the US but have as low or lower homicide rates than Australia.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 01, 2018, 04:54:29 AM
Why do you keep comparing Australian HOMICIDE rates with those of other countries when we are discussing AMERICAN gun control failure.



Compare America with Australia. 5 times more likely to be murdered in the US than Australia.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2018, 06:01:14 PM
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Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on March 11, 2018, 06:02:51 PM
Above ^^  is accurate - He did both
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 11, 2018, 06:24:07 PM
He seems like a real loony.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on March 11, 2018, 07:16:04 PM
Actually, he is a total political animal - everything he does is for political motives



It's sad to see a police dept misused as a powerful political tool



And it's use as such played a MAJOR role in the shooter not being stopped early & at role at the school at the time of the shootings
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 11, 2018, 08:02:24 PM
Hard not to agree...something isn't right with the way this whole thing was managed.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
Quote from: "cc"Actually, he is a total political animal - everything he does is for political motives



It's sad to see a police dept misused as a powerful political tool



And it's use as such played a MAJOR role in the shooter not being stopped early & at role at the school at the time of the shootings

Is he still the sheriff?



I read the governor of Florida was considering removing him.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: cc on March 11, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
Have not heard that. Far as I know he is still there.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Thiel on March 11, 2018, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Why would a student be fearful of a teacher with a concealed weapon?



So dumb.

Good point. If a parent trusts a teacher with their kids they would trust them with a weapon. Not that I think that's the best security idea. I like one entrance and exit with a cctv, a metal detector and a security guard.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:46:40 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Why would a student be fearful of a teacher with a concealed weapon?



So dumb.

Good point. If a parent trusts a teacher with their kids they would trust them with a weapon. Not that I think that's the best security idea. I like one entrance and exit with a cctv, a metal detector and a security guard.

Not many teachers will want to be responsible for a handgun.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 01:08:27 AM
It shouldn't be forced on unwilling teachers but those who are happy to step up, it shouldbe their option with the right training (unless they already have the necessary skillset).
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 01:55:14 AM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Why would a student be fearful of a teacher with a concealed weapon?



So dumb.

Good point. If a parent trusts a teacher with their kids they would trust them with a weapon. Not that I think that's the best security idea. I like one entrance and exit with a cctv, a metal detector and a security guard.


Police officers train for long periods to deal with armed offender situations.



One of the main priorities is to protect other citizens.



Arm a teacher with basis shooting range practice and innocents will die, starting with the teacher.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 02:08:58 AM
That's a load of bollocks. Most cops can't shoot for shit, barely spend enough time at the range every year to stay qualified, and have lost the ability to think first before reacting in a bad way. There is nothing special about cops except maybe how they botch up most of what they touch then blame law abiding citizens for what lawbreakers do.



On top of that, many police actively seek to disarm people and turn them into tantalizing sitting duck victims unable to defend themselves and here in Australia, we can't even own capsicum spray or small arms bulletproof clothing, backpacks, or briefcases.



Imagine that. Disarmed, barred from preventative measures to reduce bodily harm, and told it's for our own safety and that we should call a stupid little three digit phone number and hope we don't die waiting for our cowardly saviours to arrive.



Disgusting.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 03:37:34 AM
You are remarkably well informed about police training and skill levels.



May I enquire as to how you came across these revelations?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 08:02:41 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"That's a load of bollocks. Most cops can't shoot for shit, barely spend enough time at the range every year to stay qualified, and have lost the ability to think first before reacting in a bad way. There is nothing special about cops except maybe how they botch up most of what they touch then blame law abiding citizens for what lawbreakers do.



On top of that, many police actively seek to disarm people and turn them into tantalizing sitting duck victims unable to defend themselves and here in Australia, we can't even own capsicum spray or small arms bulletproof clothing, backpacks, or briefcases.



Imagine that. Disarmed, barred from preventative measures to reduce bodily harm, and told it's for our own safety and that we should call a stupid little three digit phone number and hope we don't die waiting for our cowardly saviours to arrive.



Disgusting.

I should ask my brother about that.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"That's a load of bollocks. Most cops can't shoot for shit, barely spend enough time at the range every year to stay qualified, and have lost the ability to think first before reacting in a bad way. There is nothing special about cops except maybe how they botch up most of what they touch then blame law abiding citizens for what lawbreakers do.



On top of that, many police actively seek to disarm people and turn them into tantalizing sitting duck victims unable to defend themselves and here in Australia, we can't even own capsicum spray or small arms bulletproof clothing, backpacks, or briefcases.



Imagine that. Disarmed, barred from preventative measures to reduce bodily harm, and told it's for our own safety and that we should call a stupid little three digit phone number and hope we don't die waiting for our cowardly saviours to arrive.



Disgusting.

I should ask my brother about that.


Those things and especially 'and have lost the ability to think first before reacting in a bad way'.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 10:46:23 AM
Speaking of "innocents" and children, lets not forget what else law enforcement is practicing shooting at.



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Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"Speaking of "innocents" and children, lets not forget what else law enforcement is practicing shooting at.



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Anyone, regardless of age, gender, or disability who points a gun at law enforcement.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Those things and especially 'and have lost the ability to think first before reacting in a bad way'.


I repeat; what is the experience and knowledge you rely upon to form this opinion?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Anyone, regardless of age, gender, or disability who points a gun at law enforcement.


But training officers to shoot at children and lil old ladies?



I get into conspiracy theories as you know. These targets came about when the big ammo purchase went down as well, and countless other things that are meant for "people" HERE. Its a big thing that there may be some kind of conflict, just what they want. It would take me a long time to really lay things out, but trust me, these targets are meant for ordinary citizens trying to defend themselves when the shit hits the fan and military and law enforcement carry out Martial Law and come trying to take peoples guns and property. The ELITES have huge underground bunkers, that connect with magnetic rail systems across the country. They go down there and ride it out til things simmer over. They already have hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins for the bodies. "Camps" are stationed across the country. Again, its a lot involved.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 08:26:49 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Anyone, regardless of age, gender, or disability who points a gun at law enforcement.


But training officers to shoot at children and lil old ladies?



I get into conspiracy theories as you know. These targets came about when the big ammo purchase went down as well, and countless other things that are meant for "people" HERE. Its a big thing that there may be some kind of conflict, just what they want. It would take me a long time to really lay things out, but trust me, these targets are meant for ordinary citizens trying to defend themselves when the shit hits the fan and military and law enforcement carry out Martial Law and come trying to take peoples guns and property. The ELITES have huge underground bunkers, that connect with magnetic rail systems across the country. They go down there and ride it out til things simmer over. They already have hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins for the bodies. "Camps" are stationed across the country. Again, its a lot involved.

I don't know, but if an officer's life is in danger they don't care about the threat's age or gender.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I don't know, but if an officer's life is in danger they don't care about the threat's age or gender.


That I can understand.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 08:35:57 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I don't know, but if an officer's life is in danger they don't care about the threat's age or gender.


That I can understand.

Good, I had trouble communicating what I meant in the previous post.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on March 13, 2018, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Good, I had trouble communicating what I meant in the previous post.


 :laugh:



Besides, I doubt most officers would bend to the will of that agenda I mentioned, and instead, THEY would have UN troops and such come in and do the dirty work. Our military has stated they wont turn against the citizens, so they have to get someone to do it. This is why Obama fired so many generals and such.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Angry White Male on March 14, 2018, 03:06:50 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Most cops can't shoot for shit, barely spend enough time at the range every year to stay qualified


I disgree, and will explain why...



My Mother was undercover surveillance, so she never did have to worry much about ever needing to fire her gun in the line of work, because it just doesn't happen with that particular job.  And if the shit went down?  They would have General Patrol units handle the matter.  This is so the undercover operation is never compromised.



When she started, firearms were the standard Model 10, Model 66 S&W's, or the modern variants of them, with whatever barrel length.  Revolvers.  .38 Special+P.  



She never had an issue qualifying with the .38 revolvers.  Was a top-notch shot.  Every time.



Towards the end of her career, they (RCMP) switched to 9mm semi-auto S&W firearms.  This she had a problem with...  An unfamiliar firearm, with a round that kicked much more than the old .38.



She failed qualification with the new gun.



Since she was undercover, she got a smaller aluminum slide version of the new pistol.  Wore that slide out, attempting to qualify.  They would not let her pass, until she could qualify.  Once that slide was worn out, they ordered her a steel slide version of the same pistol (smaller pistol, but similar as to what General Patrol would carry), and she finally past the qualifying with the 9mm.



Recoil was a problem for her, and she was not young anymore by that time.



Nonetheless, she had to shoot literally thousands of rounds, to prove her capabilities.



I am a good shooter...  I brought her my own target from the range, after only six shots, which equaled her many thousands of rounds to hit the same groups!



I am a natural shooter though, and she was not.  So yes, most Cops, even those that will most likely never draw their firearm, are still held to quite high standards regarding firearm abilities.  It's no joke.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Angry White Male on March 14, 2018, 03:35:59 AM
They granted her extension after extension to keep packing the .38 S&W Snubby, while the force moved on to 9mil S&W's.



Eventually they could not grant extensions anymore.  She was probably one of the last RCMP officers in Canada to carry a .38 Snubby as a Duty revolver.



Which brought us to another discussion...  What's more important?  Knowing how to shoot a particular firearm well, or being forced to pack a firearm that one is not so great with?



This is a discussion that will no longer happen.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Blazor on March 14, 2018, 09:28:45 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"They granted her extension after extension to keep packing the .38 S&W Snubby, while the force moved on to 9mil S&W's.



Eventually they could not grant extensions anymore.  She was probably one of the last RCMP officers in Canada to carry a .38 Snubby as a Duty revolver.



Which brought us to another discussion...  What's more important?  Knowing how to shoot a particular firearm well, or being forced to pack a firearm that one is not so great with?




My mom carried a .38 snubby too. Im not a fan of semi-auto pistols either, Im a much better shot with a revolver.



If you were to ask me, its more important to carry and fire a firearm that you are good with and familiar with, than being forced to use to something that is the opposite.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 14, 2018, 07:11:48 PM
So many experts on law enforcement firearm policy...
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"So many experts on law enforcement firearm policy...

Mel and maybe DD, but nobody else is claiming to know everything.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 14, 2018, 08:34:04 PM
And they are well informed, apparently.



One owns illegal weapons, the other pretends to be a female.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Frood on March 14, 2018, 08:49:33 PM
:001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2018, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"And they are well informed, apparently.



One owns illegal weapons, the other pretends to be a female.

That's alright. Some people pretend to be smart.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 15, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
Good point.



Freud pretends to be female AND smart.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2018, 10:08:54 PM
Chicago, IL – A crowd of students swarmed a south side strip mall during Wednesday's National Walkout Day demonstration, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake (video below.)



On Chicago's South Side, Simeon Career Academy students descended on businesses situated in a strip mall behind the school, and began harassing customers and employees.



Video of the teens trashing a nearby Walmart store during the protest went viral before the video was taken down several hours later. A Walmart store manager told Blue Lives Matter that he was not allowed to provide any information regarding the incident.[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpe4EPkV4EQ



With students like this, Simeon would be a good place to start arming teachers.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2018, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Chicago, IL – A crowd of students swarmed a south side strip mall during Wednesday's National Walkout Day demonstration, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake (video below.)



On Chicago's South Side, Simeon Career Academy students descended on businesses situated in a strip mall behind the school, and began harassing customers and employees.



Video of the teens trashing a nearby Walmart store during the protest went viral before the video was taken down several hours later. A Walmart store manager told Blue Lives Matter that he was not allowed to provide any information regarding the incident.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpe4EPkV4EQ



With students like this, Simeon would be a good place to start arming teachers.[/quote]
At least arm them with belts.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 16, 2018, 11:10:17 PM
This is how the left is warping the kid's minds.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2018, 12:25:17 AM
Teen Second Amendment Advocate Pulled from Speakers Lineup at School Gun Assembly

https://pjmedia.com/trending/teen-second-amendment-advocate-pulled-speakers-lineup-school-gun-assembly/



[size=150]Student Assaulted for Pro-Second Amendment Views, Then Suspended for Defending Himself[/size]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/student-assaulted-pro-second-amendment-views-suspended-defending/



the left has been so successful at shutting down dissent on racial matters that they have decided to take that strategy to every issue.  Shutting down opposition for the left, is so much easier than actually having to formulate a sound arguiment, or having a dialog, or debating, and all that nonsense, why go through all that needless trouble?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2018, 12:28:37 AM
So where are the damned parents??



You could sue these clowns til they bled.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2018, 06:02:04 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Teen Second Amendment Advocate Pulled from Speakers Lineup at School Gun Assembly

https://pjmedia.com/trending/teen-second-amendment-advocate-pulled-speakers-lineup-school-gun-assembly/




And some people think political brainwashing happens in private Christian schools..



Sometimes I wonder how public schools find time to teach subjects when they waste so much time imposing their political views.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2018, 06:15:27 AM
Why aren't you asleep?
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2018, 06:24:27 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Why aren't you asleep?

I had to wake up early today.
Title: Re: Gun-Stunned Progs - Teacher talks about safety after Florida school shooting, is told to get psych exam, go on leave
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2018, 06:30:04 AM
3.00am early???