https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_5741507015001
What bullshit.
More distortion from feminism.
Dunno on this one. I've seen many reports that say similar, most say higher %age
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I can say this much here
Anecdotally, I "manned" a hotline emergency help where about 1/2 calls were in-home abuse - AND personally have known many people who have been injured and / or psychologically abused .. many afraid to tell or leave in fear for their lives.
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I can say that cops and detectives are very caring, but often deeply frustrated when a victim is afraid to speak up (often cannot for fear of her life and limb) .. or when she does speak, will not (often cannot) follow though so they can help
It's common and often kept behind closed doors .. my guess is far above 1 in 6 for spousal alone .. and that does not include in childhood .. family etc. ... that happens to boys also
And then there is those who don't tell at all .... some even deny to themselves
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I can say this much here
Anecdotally,
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I can say that cops and detectives are very caring, but often deeply frustrated when a victim is afraid to speak up (often cannot for fear of her life and limb) .. or when she does speak, will not (often cannot) follow though so they can help
It's common and often kept behind closed doors .. my guess is far above 1 in 6 for spousal alone .. and that does not include in childhood .. family etc. ... that happens to boys also
And then there is those who don't tell at all .... some even deny to themselves
And add to that some cultures are very reluctant to speak about abuse in the home.
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I can say this much here
Anecdotally,
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I can say that cops and detectives are very caring, but often deeply frustrated when a victim is afraid to speak up (often cannot for fear of her life and limb) .. or when she does speak, will not (often cannot) follow though so they can help
It's common and often kept behind closed doors .. my guess is far above 1 in 6 for spousal alone .. and that does not include in childhood .. family etc. ... that happens to boys also
And then there is those who don't tell at all .... some even deny to themselves
And add to that some cultures are very reluctant to speak about abuse in the home.
Exactly.
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Anecdotally, I "manned" a hotline emergency help where about 1/2 calls were in-home abuse - AND personally have known many people who have been injured and / or psychologically abused .. many afraid to tell or leave in fear for their lives.
If you are on an emergency hotline, you are BOUND to get a large proportion of "abused" victims. However, are you saying that for every six women you know, 1 is the subject of domestic violence?
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And some make false accusations.
I do not deny that violence occurs in households. But violence occurs in MANY other places, and MEN are the most likely victims.
And I do not accept the proportion of 1 in 6.
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I've known some pretty dangerous females in my life. But, I've known a lot more males who are violent.
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Your prerogative
I wish it were less. I think it's considerably more than that for spousal alone ... and childhood adds more for both sexes
You started out saying it was a feminazi thing. While we both detest feminazis, to suggest that may allow you to justify rejecting the premise. It doesn't for me, not one bit
What definition do you use for domestic violence?
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What bullshit.
More distortion from feminism.
I believe it. And it has nothing to do with feminism.
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I don't know about cc, but I would say it's one or more acts of violence that form a pattern of abuse.
A single act of violence upon a partner qualifies, but usually there is a longstanding and escalating pattern.
It takes a certain type of screwed up mind to do it even once. The odds of someone who will do it once are great that they will repeat it under similar circumstances until it becomes a "regular" thing.
Worse, that pattern often has an escalating factor .. tends to become worse each time it is gotten away with.
The simple threat of severe retaliation, whether stated or not, is often sufficient to keep the victim from "coming out" ... and similarly is often sufficient to keep the victim from from carrying through following a "coming out". This further keeps the numbers for examination down. Some victims are even in denial and would never say anything to another person.
Further, I have every reason to believe that the numbers are higher than 1 in 6 for spousal / partner abuse alone , and especially so when childhood is taken into consideration
The words "If you tell or leave, I'll track you down and make you pay" makes getting away from it even scarier than staying for many trapped within it.
Actually all men have been slapped, kicked or punched by a female at some point of their lives..
Women usually start the fight but then get their asses kicked.
Violence towards women is on the rise because women are not acting like women anymore but they still expect men to act like traditional men.
Bear in mind I do not dispute that violence is an issue. In the home. In a bar. In a school. ALL violence is abhorrent.
Domestic violence is yet another issue hijackassed by feminism to maintain their anti-male philosophy.
I understand your point, but must say that I have not witnessed the abuse thing being used "by feminism to maintain their anti-male philosophy"
Whether it is being "used" or not, abuse is a problem looking for solutions, a serious problem legitimately existing everywhere in the world, a problem very difficult to solve for reasons mentioned above.
For sure feminazis try many positions on for size and weaponize just about everything on earth. I have witnessed many such attempts to pursue their self-serving bogus anti-male philosophy.
I do believe it is more common than we may think, and often swept under the rug more often than we know, especially with certain cultures. However, we must first understand what constitutes true 'abuse.'
This is the key.
I like to drink, and so does my ex. We got along 99% of the time, and actually still do! We have said some choice words to each other in the past, but I do not consider that 'abuse.' And neither does she.
I only laid hands on her one time, if you can call it that... She was in my face, about some bullshit that didn't even exist, and I physically pushed her away. Not down, but just away from me.
She was shocked that I did that, as I am not a violent man by any means. However, it was warranted as I wanted my personal space free of her, and she knew that. She had never 'gotten in my face' after that.
So, what really does constitute 'abuse' in the true meaning of the term? I guess that would vary greatly, dependent on who you asked...
the article doesn't say how it arrives at the statistic, so there is no way to check its reliability.
I have seen stats like this used by feminists to bash men, one of them was " More women are victims of domestic violence on Super Bowl Sunday than on any other day of the year." which was false.
Of course whatever the statistics are or are not, any person who is in an abusive relationship should be encouraged to get help. And of course the abuser held accountable when possible.
These statistics are heavily distorted in 2 major ways; firstly, the definition of "domestic violence" is so broad that merely saying "Yes, dear, those jeans do make your arse look big" would qualify.
Secondly, the proponents of this nonsense cite EVERY single report in their "statistics", despite the fact that many reports are from the same victim. So, if a woman claims she has been violated 4 times, that's 4 incidents. It is deliberately disingenuous, and of course distorts the true picture by saying that 4 women have been victimised.
But there is another component to this that feminists ignore; the degree and extent to which women provoke and incite these so called acts of domestic abuse.
I think cc and Bricktop are both right. I have met abused women. But, as Brick said, stats are too often distorted to suit an agenda.
By those stats, one of our ladies has been "abused".
cc?
Fash?
Shen?
Velvet?
Azhya?
Berry?
One other point...in indigenous populations that rate is around 90% of women abused. This is probably accurate, due to the affects of poverty and alcohol.
Present!! ... Poverty eh?
Does a well off Masters degree in psychology guy in major position at IBM downtown Toronto putting his wife in the hospital c/w threats of what would happen if she got him in trouble .. count?
Does a filthy rich insurance company exec from Manhattan (and close friend of her parents) vacationing at posh Myrtle Beach South Carolina attacking a 16 year old babysitter while walking her through the woods on the way back to her and her parent's cabin ... followed by threat that he could convince parents that he, Mr Nice Guy to her parents, could convince her parents that she made it up ... count?
Compared to the rate of unreported abuse in indigenous communities?
Barely.