Again.
//http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36381572
Anyone who believed that "reconciliation" would survive after Nelson Mandela passed away were deluding themselves.
White South Africans are an endangered species.
It may be argued that they deserve it...but just as in Zimbabwe, seizing white land will be catastrophic.
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//http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43217142
Anyone who believed that "reconciliation" would survive after Nelson Mandela passed away were deluding themselves.
White South Africans are an endangered species.
It may be argued that they deserve it...but just as in Zimbabwe, seizing white land will be catastrophic.
This link is not about South Africa.
oops...Sorry.
Fixed.
I'm OLD. Gimme a break!!
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oops...Sorry.
Fixed.
I'm OLD. Gimme a break!!
Honest mistake and thank you for correcting it.
ac_smile
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//http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36381572
Anyone who believed that "reconciliation" would survive after Nelson Mandela passed away were deluding themselves.
White South Africans are an endangered species.
It may be argued that they deserve it...but just as in Zimbabwe, seizing white land will be catastrophic.
If every Afrikaaner converts to islam, Trudeau will make their plight his cause.
The article didn't say if the land being expropriated was purchased legally or was acquired by family members unfairly through the apartheid system.
To think that a White minority could live peacefully in a Black Nation, under Black rule, is truly the stuff of dreams.
However, you ain't seen nothing yet. There will come a time, when Whites WILL have to band together, and protect a homeland of their own, for their own.
Until then, I suggest White South Africans start applying now for immigration to White majority nations.
Black south Africans want revenge and no one will stop them from getting it, the world will view white south africans getting slaughtered as even less imprtant than Muslims killing Christians off in the middle east. The only thing left to do if youre white is get the hell out of there while you still can.
Exactly! That's the truth! If people think otherwise, they are truly delusional.
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//http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36381572
Anyone who believed that "reconciliation" would survive after Nelson Mandela passed away were deluding themselves.
White South Africans are an endangered species.
It may be argued that they deserve it...but just as in Zimbabwe, seizing white land will be catastrophic.
Actually I found a more recent article than that link. In the link above SA was giving whites compensation for confiscated property.
Now they have decided that the government can take white property owners property away with no compensation whatseover
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/the-time-for-reconciliation-is-over-south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whiteowned-without-compensation/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc
that's far worse than apartheid, This is basicially what the nazis did to the jews just before the holocaust.
I'll be honest... At least the Nazi's gave the Jews the opportunity to sell their properties and leave peacefully. And many did.
South Africa has also severed diplomatic ties with Israel.
I think Africa is about to have another communist government in their midst.
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Exactly! That's the truth! If people think otherwise, they are truly delusional.
yep any white person left in south africa better figure a way out before their property is taken with no compensation, leaving them with nothing, or they are just outright murdered.
Genocide is coming.
And we'd better be ready to take those that can get out.
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And we'd better be ready to take those that can get out.
I hope so. They should certainly be considered refugees fleeing from genocide, and they should be considered more assimilable than Muslims. But in our increasingly PC world who knows what will happen.
I've met a couple of White South Africans that immigrated to Canada, so I know we take 'em.
However, that's not very many compared to how many East Indians and Asians we allow to freely flood into this nation...
Nonetheless, I've also watched enough docs on Whites in South Africa, and in other Nigger countries also for that matter, and they've been taught to 'embrace the diversity' there as well, even though they are not welcome.
Whites have become the dumbest race on the planet, when we once were the best and the brightest... building everything that you see around you.
I really don't care when Whites get raped and slaughtered. It was something that was easily predicted by many as the eventual outcome, but White people themselves failed to act...
Maybe we'll eventually learn.
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//http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36381572
Anyone who believed that "reconciliation" would survive after Nelson Mandela passed away were deluding themselves.
White South Africans are an endangered species.
It may be argued that they deserve it...but just as in Zimbabwe, seizing white land will be catastrophic.
Actually I found a more recent article than that link. In the link above SA was giving whites compensation for confiscated property.
Now they have decided that the government can take white property owners property away with no compensation whatseover
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/the-time-for-reconciliation-is-over-south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whiteowned-without-compensation/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc
that's far worse than apartheid, This is basicially what the nazis did to the jews just before the holocaust.
Oh my gosh, that is horrible.
Whites have been an endangered species for decades in S Africa. There have been countless cases of feral monkeys robbing, raping, mutilating and murdering white farmers on their properties.
The silence of course is deafening from the bleeding heart libturd brigade and mainstream media, who rarely ever mention it. What are the odds of white South Africans being offered asylum in either Europe, the US or Canada I wonder? :laugh3:
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Whites have been an endangered species for decades in S Africa. There have been countless cases of feral monkeys robbing, raping, mutilating and murdering white farmers on their properties.
The silence of course is deafening from the bleeding heart libturd brigade and mainstream media, who rarely ever mention it. What are the odds of white South Africans being offered asylum in either Europe, the US or Canada I wonder? :laugh3:
We've given asylum hearings to Roma from Europe, so I would encourage any South African who is being persecuted to make their way to Canada and try.
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Whites have been an endangered species for decades in S Africa. There have been countless cases of feral monkeys robbing, raping, mutilating and murdering white farmers on their properties.
The silence of course is deafening from the bleeding heart libturd brigade and mainstream media, who rarely ever mention it. What are the odds of white South Africans being offered asylum in either Europe, the US or Canada I wonder? :laugh3:
We've given asylum hearings to Roma from Europe, so I would encourage any South African who is being persecuted to make their way to Canada and try.
It's nearly mission impossible. Canada accepts few refugee claims by South African citizens. So far this year, none have been accepted. In 2016 there were 12, in 2015 there were 18, in 2014 there were two and none in 2013.
White South African family's refugee bid rejected, accused of boosting case with 'racist propaganda'
The claim of the family of six was based on being white South Africans at risk of persecution due to their race, namely Afrikaners
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/white-south-african-familys-refugee-bid-rejected-allegedly-boosted-case-with-white-supremacist-information
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The Endres said they were victims of carjacking in 1995, were assaulted on their farm by four black men who entered their home and robbed them in 2004, had their home burglarized in 2013, their car stolen from outside their house in 2014 and, that same year, three black men tried to steal Sonja's cell phone while she was working.
The Immigration and Refugee Board denied them refugee protection, saying there was no reliable evidence they were attacked due to their race, and it was more probable they were attacked for economic reasons — to steal their possessions.
And when every last white farmer is dead and/or has their land confiscated with no compensation, they'll just say hey "there was nothing we could do, it was just for economic reasons."
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"The average murder ratio per 100,000 or the population in the world is nine, I believe. In South Africa, it is 54. But for the farming community it is 138, which is the highest for any occupation in the world."
Since 2007, at the direction of the government, South African police have stopped releasing statistics about the race of the victims. Monitoring group Genocide Watch says the cover-up has been exacerbated by American and European governments, which have "remained silent about the problem, reinforcing the campaign of denial".
The rise in farm attacks has been blamed on increasingly anti-white hate speech, particularly from the ruling African National Congress.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/bury-them-alive-white-south-africans-fear-for-their-future-as-horrific-farm-attacks-escalate/news-story/3a63389a1b0066b6b0b77522c06d6476
Maybe Afrikaaners stand a better chance of having their refugee claims accepted in Australia.
Accept persecuted white South Africans to Australia!
https://www.change.org/p/australian-government-accept-white-south-african-refugees-to-australia
Australia certainly is more accepting of South Africans. I suspect more will be coming.
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Australia certainly is more accepting of South Africans. I suspect more will be coming.
As immigrants, not refugees right?
Some are immigrating...but our immigration laws are so tight its hard for them. They need lots of money, and a job, and a clean bill of health before getting a visa. Not easy.
They would be better served seeking asylum.
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Some are immigrating...but our immigration laws are so tight its hard for them. They need lots of money, and a job, and a clean bill of health before getting a visa. Not easy.
They would be better served seeking asylum.
However, Australia is a lot less generous about handing out asylum. Canada is generous with scammers, but not real refugees who are being persecuted like white South Africans.
Yeah, we're global assholes.
But we like it that way.
I read that Canada wants to welcome some of the 40,000 fake African refugee claimants that Israel is deporting. But, no genuine Afrikaaner refugees.
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Yeah, we're global assholes.
But we like it that way.
yeah I've heard Aus is a tough place for immigrants to get into. I envy you that. I wish the US were more that way. We take anyone and everyone (poor, low skilled, destined for welfare) illegals to boot. Its lreadly ridiculous and the left here only wants to make it more so.
This seems timely
[size=150]THOUSANDS SIGN PETITION ASKING TRUMP TO LET WHITE FARMERS IN SOUTH AFRICA MIGRATE TO U.S. AFTER COUNTRY VOTES TO FORCE THEM OFF LAND[/size]
http://www.newsweek.com/thousands-sign-petition-asking-trump-allow-white-people-south-africa-migrate-826126
I just signed on myself
if it works out, They will probably some of the most assimilable immigrants we take in and are in legitimate need, and are not a danger to others. I hope Trump will do it. Most other nations will say they are white and deserve to be killed off. (I expect the democrats will scream racism like they always do)
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Yeah, we're global assholes.
But we like it that way.
yeah I've heard Aus is a tough place for immigrants to get into. I envy you that. I wish the US were more that way. We take anyone and everyone (poor, low skilled, destined for welfare) illegals to boot. Its lreadly ridiculous and the left here only wants to make it more so.
Trudeau wants more refugees and family class immigrants and fewer skilled immigrants.
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This seems timely
I can't find one for Canada. The time to act is now. White South Africans are facing genocide.
They are, and all of the southern part of Africa as a whole is facing famine
With Zimbabwe as example, what do they expect?
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They are, and all of the southern part of Africa as a whole is facing famine
With Zimbabwe as example, what do they expect?
Persecuting and killing whites worked so well for Mugabe that Cyril Ramaphosa thought he would copy Zimbabwe's success.
but but but ... famine
A lot will want to come here, because our climate and environment is very similar.
Besides, we play cricket and rugby.
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but but but ... famine
I was being sarcastic. Copying Zimbabwe is not only ethnic cleanising of Boers, it's economic suicide for South Africa.
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A lot will want to come here, because our climate and environment is very similar.
Besides, we play cricket and rugby.
Yes, they will. But, there are lots of white South African doctors in Canada.
There's a few here. They saw the light years ago when the ANC took over. It was never going to end well.
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A lot will want to come here, because our climate and environment is very similar.
Besides, we play cricket and rugby.
Yes, they will. But, there are lots of white South African doctors in Canada.
Especially in smaller towns..
In many cases their local councils sponsored them.
True. We had a S A doc for a decade, and one in another town very long ago
Their education papers + a shortage of docs here got them out and here
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They are, and all of the southern part of Africa as a whole is facing famine
With Zimbabwe as example, what do they expect?
Persecuting and killing whites worked so well for Mugabe that Cyril Ramaphosa thought he would copy Zimbabwe's success.
I think that's the only thing stopping South Africa is they know that if they do what Zimbabwe did, the blacks that take over the white farms won't know what they are doing, and of course the farms will fail. If it weren't for that, they would probably just kill all the whiteys and be done with it.
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This seems timely
I can't find one for Canada. The time to act is now. White South Africans are facing genocide.
I would sign one if there was or will be one. I have a feeling they would not be libtards.
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This seems timely
I can't find one for Canada. The time to act is now. White South Africans are facing genocide.
I would sign one if there was or will be one. I have a feeling they would not be libtards.
if they are libtards they should stay and have the diversity give them their deserved ending. :laugh:
I have the American petition here
https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa
and one for Europe
https://www.change.org/p/jean-claude-juncker-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe?recruiter=45453820&utm_source=share_sponsor_thank_you&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive
Soulbro posted one for Australia, but unfortunately I can't find a one for canada.
That's because we only take people with a high possibility of being terrorists
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This seems timely
I can't find one for Canada. The time to act is now. White South Africans are facing genocide.
I would sign one if there was or will be one. I have a feeling they would not be libtards.
if they are libtards they should stay and have the diversity give them their deserved ending. :laugh:
I have the American petition here
https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa
and one for Europe
https://www.change.org/p/jean-claude-juncker-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe?recruiter=45453820&utm_source=share_sponsor_thank_you&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive
Soulbro posted one for Australia, but unfortunately I can't find a one for canada.
There probably will be a petition once Candians become aware of the plight of Caucasian farmers in South Africa..
It's got little coverage from CBC.
Media throughout the entire West is ignoring it.
It's just not the type of cause that assists their agendas .. and they have come to the point of covering only what does
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Media throughout the entire West is ignoring it.
It's just not the type of cause that assists their agendas .. and they have come to the point of covering only what does
But, I still think someone will start a Canadian petition soon.
from May of 2017.
[size=150]Zimbabwe Begs White Farmers To Return As Country Plunges Into Famine[/size]
http://yournewswire.com/zimbabwe-white-farmers-return/
And now South Africa is following exactly in Zimbabwe's footsteps "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
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from May of 2017.
They are not going to come back and be persecuted and robbed a second time.
Only if they're crazy. Whites do not belong in Africa.
For which they should be truly thankful.
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Only if they're crazy. Whites do not belong in Africa.
For which they should be truly thankful.
N1ggers and sand n1ggers don't belong in Europe either.
Imagine if they were treated the same way whites are treated in Africa?
The problem lies with the indoctrination whites have been infected with by Jew-know-who and the 'white guilt' syndrome.
No other race or group of people have been inflicted with this poison and we as a race are reaping the results of the decades of decay Cultural Marxism has caused.
Question: What is the overall average number of posts it takes for a nazi cultist to turn every thread and every subject it posts in to jews?
Answer: 1.0000
Because Jews are the root cause of the white guilt 'industry'...
Serial denial is an ugly personalty trait CC, you should try being honest for a change.
You could start by researching who were the leading pioneers of ending apartheid in S Africa.
Aw, so it should permeate EVERY thread about EVERY subject.
I get it now.
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Aw, so it should permeate EVERY thread about EVERY subject.
I get it now.
Another good discussion derailed by one brainwashed poster's obsession. Wonderful.
Rerailing time. Anyone find a petition on behalf of Afrikaaners for Canada.
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/move-to/move-to-australia/
Whilst I hold no pity for white South Africans for the way they treated the indigenous people, and the profits they took from cheap black labour, I believe we should open our doors to them. The people who began the era of white colonialisation and apartheid are dead. But those who are alive will bear their burden of guilt, and face retribution. They need to leave.
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https://www.thesouthafrican.com/move-to/move-to-australia/
Whilst I hold no pity for white South Africans for the way they treated the indigenous people, and the profits they took from cheap black labour, I believe we should open our doors to them. The people who began the era of white colonialisation and apartheid are dead. But those who are alive will bear their burden of guilt, and face retribution. They need to leave.
I agree with most of this.
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https://www.thesouthafrican.com/move-to/move-to-australia/
Whilst I hold no pity for white South Africans for the way they treated the indigenous people, and the profits they took from cheap black labour, I believe we should open our doors to them. The people who began the era of white colonialisation and apartheid are dead. But those who are alive will bear their burden of guilt, and face retribution. They need to leave.
I think culpability in SA is a fairly complicated matter, some things to think about
1. Apartheid ended in 1991, so anyone who was not over the age of majority in 1991 had no say in the matter. No one under the age of 45 bears responsibility for apartheid.
2. To further complicate matters, Many whites were against apartheid. So now, among those over 45 only some are to blame
3. While apartheid was a cruel system it is nothing like taking peoples property and giving them nothing, leaving them to live on the street, or outright murdering them (often with torture included). such a punishment goes way beyond one befitting the crime.
4. And Even though apartheid was terrible, on average, blacks in SA had better lives than most blacks in other African countries run by blacks, which was why so many blacks tried to immigrate into south africa. That doesn't excuse a terrible systen, But it goes to show had there never been a south Africa, blacks in the area would have actually been worse off.
All that being said, the solution is the same
Get the whites out and let blacks own their own stuation, for better or worse
Correct...whilst they probably don't deserve that contempt, they will still reap what their ancestors sowed. Tis better to leave now, than wait...
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1. Apartheid ended in 1991, so anyone who was not over the age of majority in 1991 had no say in the matter. No one under the age of 45 bears responsibility for apartheid.
2. To further complicate matters, Many whites were against apartheid. So now, among those over 45 only some are to blame
A whites only referendum was held when De Klerk was president to dismantle the remainders of apartheid. I believe 68 per cent of white South Africans voted to end apartheid.
If trump lets White South Africans in the US, the left and democrats will scream racism for all they can get
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/the_coming_controversy_over_admitting_white_refugees_from_south_africa.html
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President Trump is putting a lid on refugee flows, and the left is dead certain that this is because of racism. Asking to make an exception for white people is going to be called every nasty name under the sun, with special emphasis on those starting with R.
The fact that these refugees can be vetted, and that most of them will be fluent in English, skilled in agriculture, and immediately employable, will be dismissed. Race is the only important characteristic they possess.
And here is where it will get to the kernel of truth among the opponents:
These refugee victims will be portrayed as victimizers themselves. They are beneficiaries of centuries of racial division. No doubt many will claim centuries of apartheid, even though that extreme doctrine of racial separation reigned in South Africa only from 1948 to 1991, 43 years. They will be portrayed as continuing the injustice of white colonization (even though the major black tribes followed white settlers onto the land now called South Africa and, properly speaking, were also colonizers).
I suspect that it will get very ugly when news leaks out of South Africa of white farm families being murdered and their land taken over by political cronies – exactly what happened in Zimbabwe. It would not surprise me to see radical racialists celebrating these deaths, as other Americans plead for mercy and enlightenment for people culturally compatible with the United States' culture and first-world economy who face race-based persecution.
All white South Africans are in immediate peril. We canot say the same about everyone in the Middle East and Africa.
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All white South Africans are in immediate peril. We canot say the same about everyone in the Middle East and Africa.
True. Because of the recent declaration of the SA government they are in serious and immediate danger. BTW I would be fine with it if some white person were known to be a big supporters of apartheid or other crimes against blacks were punished and not allowed to leave,
But I would bet the left will proclaim all white south Africans deserving of the worst. the same left that tells us-- don't blame all blacks for black crime and don't blame all Muslims for Jihadi murders, will be more than happy to throw all south African whites under the guilty umbrella, along with anybody who tries to help them.
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All white South Africans are in immediate peril. We canot say the same about everyone in the Middle East and Africa.
True. Because of the recent declaration of the SA government they are in serious and immediate danger. BTW I would be fine with it if some white person were known to be a big supporters of apartheid or other crimes against blacks were punished and not allowed to leave,
But I would bet the left will proclaim them all deserving of the worst. the same left that tells us-- don't blame all blacks for black crime and don't blame all Muslims for Jihadi murders, will be more than happy to throw all south African whites under the guilty umbrella, along with anybody who tries to help them.
I don't doubt they will. I haven't heard of any politician in Canada or the US mention the new racist law passed by the South Adrican parliament. Maybe you've heard something?
South Africa isn't sure if they want to let their White people leave... They know things would fall apart sans White people...
It's a real dilemma!
They hate Whites, but need them!
Lesson learned here: Majority White nations work. Majority non-White nations do not work.
Why people have a hard time understanding this, is due to the fact that we have all been programmed to believe that we are all equal.
We are not all equal.
It will be interesting to see what happens when majority-White nations get overtaken... We will literally be like the Whites in South Africa. Germany, UK, Australia, Canada, United States, etc...
What the FUCK will happen when we get 'taken over' here? Nothing pretty! I can guarantee you that!
Hitler went about things in the wrong way... His ideals of a "White Nation" were not unsound. In fact, many nations around the World want to hang on to their racial identity. This is nothing new. They want things to 'be like them, and what they know.'
White people want this also, at least us that aren't brainwashed idiots...
Why should White people 'carry the world?' When has it become my business to take care of lesser peoples, that don't actually want to advance into modern times?
Hitler wasn't wrong with his ideals... He just went overboard, and it didn't work out in the end.
Hitler did not fight the rest of Europe and Russia for "white nation" .... they were all white ffs
That was all about power / increased authority and about nothing else
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All white South Africans are in immediate peril. We canot say the same about everyone in the Middle East and Africa.
True. Because of the recent declaration of the SA government they are in serious and immediate danger. BTW I would be fine with it if some white person were known to be a big supporters of apartheid or other crimes against blacks were punished and not allowed to leave,
But I would bet the left will proclaim them all deserving of the worst. the same left that tells us-- don't blame all blacks for black crime and don't blame all Muslims for Jihadi murders, will be more than happy to throw all south African whites under the guilty umbrella, along with anybody who tries to help them.
I don't doubt they will. I haven't heard of any politician in Canada or the US mention the new racist law passed by the South Adrican parliament. Maybe you've heard something?
I never knew how dire the situation in South Africa had become for whites until Wazzzup posted about it.
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Hitler did not fight the rest of Europe and Russia for "white nation" .... they were all white ffs
That was all about power / increased authority and about nothing else
He fought international Jewry and Communism, which in layman's terms means the Jewish elites or 'NWO' which this particular cabal is now known as....
He did indeed want a white (Aryan) Europe free from the shackles of the banksters and their banking racket.
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Hitler did not fight the rest of Europe and Russia for "white nation" .... they were all white ffs
That was all about power / increased authority and about nothing else
He fought international Jewry and Communism, which in layman's terms means the Jewish elites or 'NWO' which this particular cabal is now known as....
He did indeed want a white (Aryan) Europe free from the shackles of the banksters and their banking racket.
This thread is not about that SCOUSE.
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All white South Africans are in immediate peril. We canot say the same about everyone in the Middle East and Africa.
True. Because of the recent declaration of the SA government they are in serious and immediate danger. BTW I would be fine with it if some white person were known to be a big supporters of apartheid or other crimes against blacks were punished and not allowed to leave,
But I would bet the left will proclaim them all deserving of the worst. the same left that tells us-- don't blame all blacks for black crime and don't blame all Muslims for Jihadi murders, will be more than happy to throw all south African whites under the guilty umbrella, along with anybody who tries to help them.
I don't doubt they will. I haven't heard of any politician in Canada or the US mention the new racist law passed by the South Adrican parliament. Maybe you've heard something?
Barely heard anything. I saw two articles on free republic and one on drudge. And there was a short segment on Tucker Carlson with Mark Stein about it. I haven't heard or seen any politician reference it. Even today I googled "south Africa" and only 1/3 or so of the stories are about the land grab.
This will be a genocide in plain site, barely covered by the media, much like the genocide of Christians in the middleast. If you want to get press you have to be one of the lefts favorite victim groups.
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South Africa's parliament voted overwhelmingly in favor of the amendment, (to tke away white farms with no compensation) 241-83, reported The Independent. The motion must now head to South Africa's Constitutional Review Committee for approval. Should the committee approve the proposal, a constitutional amendment would be drafted and voted on.
The vote was not put forward by Nelson Mandela's ruling ANC, but by the more radical party the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF).
The EFF's leader, Julius Malema, has long been in favor of seizing the land owned by white farmers. When speaking about land redistribution, he promised that all he wanted was the farmer's land, saying he is "not calling for the slaughter of white people – at least for now."
Ahead of the historic vote, Malema said, "We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land."
South Africa's new president Cyril Ramaphosa didn't go that far, but gave his support to the measure. He had promised he would speed up the process of farmland redistribution during his inauguration a couple of weeks ago.
"We are going to address this and make sure that we come up with resolutions that resolve this once and for all," Ramaphosa said. "This original sin that was committed when our country was colonized must be resolved in a way that will take South Africa forward."
The president also promised that any redistribution would be done carefully, in order to avoid the sort of social, political and economic strife that arose after Zimbabwe seized the land owned by its white citizens.
"I will shortly initiate a dialogue with key stakeholders," Ramaphosa said. "There is no need for any one of us to panic and start beating war drums."
This is South Africas Kristallnacht moment. so I hope the whites remaining there won't fall for the voices of seeming moderation, the only thing holding back genocide in SA is what happened in Zimbabwe, and even that may not hold for long.
I didn't know how toxic the stuation is for white South Africans.
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I didn't know how toxic the stuation is for white South Africans.
Well it was something that was a long time in coming I remember my father had a south African professor and his wife stay with him for a week in the late 80s (this was after I left for college) and he mentioned they were frightened of what might be coming.
But this vote to dispossess white formers of their land with no compensation is a massive turning point.
But many will still not know.
I just googled "South Africa" again. of the top ten stories only one mentions this government action.
The media is not nterested in covering this matter. And no doubt the SA government will do its best to cover up what is happening, which is what they've been doing all along.
I'm waiting to see what happens next-- If Trump says to take them in the US, the left will say trump doesn't want Muslims cause of his Muslim ban, and he doesn't like Hispanics with his wall, but he'll take in these white oppressors.
Oh theyll be howling racism to no end over that.
The left despise white South Africans.
I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
The only saving grace is that White Africans are permitted to arm themselves.
If they couldn't, they'd be extinct by now.
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I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
As you know, because it's whitey under threat, the bleeding heart brigade are nowhere to be found. In fact I wouldn't mind betting that many of them are applauding the situation for past injustices whites have supposedly carried out.
What most of them fail to realise is how on earth are these useless low IQ apes going to run the farms they want to take over? The vast majority of them are incapable savages who will ultimately turn on each other and probably starve to death if left to fend for themselves without any help from first world western nations.
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I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
My first thoughts also. It's not their type of cause
Similar for the press > "Sorry folks, nothing in this to help our agenda" ..... "Russia / Trump" .. "Russia / Trump" .. "Russia / Trump"
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I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
Strangely, this is getting more publicity in China than it is here. Not much mind you, but not dead silence like here.
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I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
Strangely, this is getting more publicity in China than it is here. Not much mind you, but not dead silence like here.
I just googled "South Africa" again. 17 total stories on the first page, only one about the land grab.
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I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
Strangely, this is getting more publicity in China than it is here. Not much mind you, but not dead silence like here.
I just googled "South Africa" again. 17 total stories on the first page, only one about the land grab.
It's 2018 and land is being seized because of the race of the landowners..
That's horrible, but the silence of our media is just as bad.
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I also googled 'racism' in over 50 stories on"racism" not one story about South Africas racism. huh?
Also a bit of a flashback here., For any who remember back when All those actors and musical artists , and concerts, and demands for boycotts and government sanctions near the end of apartheid. Where are they now when its not just apartheid, its lives at stake?
I just hear crickets.
Strangely, this is getting more publicity in China than it is here. Not much mind you, but not dead silence like here.
I just googled "South Africa" again. 17 total stories on the first page, only one about the land grab.
I remember when the media in the US and Canada used to report all the news.
South Africa is on the path to oblivion.
Here's a woman from a black internet site called "the root" and her take on it
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/cry-me-a-river-of-white-tears-white-south-african-colo-1823331790
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Recently, Lauren Southern, Tomi Lahren's Canadian sister in the white supremacist struggle, highlighted the perilous plight of white South Africans, who—gasp—are being discriminated against ... this, in the very country known throughout the world for its racial tolerance!
In a seven-minute documentary, this tone-deaf "alt-right" propagandist ruminates on the travails of white South Africans who are "going through an intense crisis" (complete with sad music in the background) in the very same country where their people colonized native South Africans into a brutal racial caste system beginning in the 1940s. Southern says that these whites are allegedly being displaced (all 60 of them, in this case) and have to live in "white settlement camps" on the outskirts of town because the nasty African National Congress-led government won't help them.
"Whites in South Africa are being denied jobs and will soon have their land taken away without compensation," writes Becky Boer Southern. "As a result, more and more people are finding themselves living on handouts in white squatter camps because they are routinely denied help from anywhere else."
She then "exposes" these terrible conditions—whites living in one-room "shacks" with no electricity or water—none of which South Africa has ever, ever seen. Oh, except in the infamous shantytowns where tens of thousands of black South Africans were forced to live in conditions that would make that "shack" look like the fucking Ritz.
But the pièce de résistance comes when Southern interviews a white South African woman who says she can't walk around her neighborhood at night because the blacks will "rape you, beat you up." She says her children are being teased by black children "in their own language," which she tearfully cannot understand. So much so that she actually wants to leave the country. "We are human beings just like them, just the color and the language is different."
The crazier part is how many South Africans and white Europeans were in shrill agony saying that what is happening to these deserving whites is the worst thing since Syrians bombed their own people with sarin gas (OK—they didn't say that, but they did say they that should be "relocated.")
Of course, this response is labeled "inhumane."
The question is, have these people no sense of history, context or irony? Maybe white poverty is increasing because they actually have to compete with blacks for jobs. Maybe they don't work hard enough. Maybe they're just dumb and lazy. I don't know.
What's really glaring is the sense of entitlement that white Americans and white South Africans both have. Hmm. Let's see. What do they have in common? General wealth? Check. Some of the world's highest rates of incarceration and HIV? Yup (except this affects only the blacks in those countries). What else? Oh yes, a once-legal but still-pervasive racial caste system, which gifts and curses whites into thinking that they are so much of a god that the world owes them something.
Here's an idea for these poor, sad, white South Africans: Get a job. Work harder. Do better. Don't rely on the government so much. Stop having kids. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Go back to your own country.
The gall of these people is incredible. Truly ah-mazing.
It would be easy to pick some of the illogic apart, but this is what you are probably going to hear from the compassionate, tolerant, hard left about the whole situation. No sympathy, whatever happens now white south africans deserve what they get.
BTW third paragraph from the bottom shows the author would love to do in America what is being done in South Africa.
She seems ignorant of history..
Ethnic based land confiscation has been tried before.
This is a typical leftard "nyah nyah" response.
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This is a typical leftard "nyah nyah" response.
It's not worthy of a reasonable response.
Agreed.
But the leftard is worthy of a slap on the back of her stupid head.
I wonder if the new defintion of racism needs to change again
The old definition was "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race because of their race."
Then it became "blacks can't be racist because they don't have power"
Well who holds all the power in South Africa? Blacks obviously. So can blacks be racist now????
Better change the defintion again.
Blacks cannot be racists.
Women cannot be sexist.
Gays can't be heterophobic.
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Blacks cannot be racists.
Women cannot be sexist.
Gays can't be heterophobic.
Muslims are always truthful when reporting "hate" crimes.
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I wonder if the new defintion of racism needs to change again
The old definition was "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race because of their race."
Then it became "blacks can't be racist because they don't have power"
Well who holds all the power in South Africa? Blacks obviously. So can blacks be racist now????
Better change the defintion again.
It hasn't changed for me, I still use that definition.
Ahmed Husen is right in keeping South African whites from getting refugee status. Did Canada give South African blacks refugee status during the aparthied years? These white farmers are being killed because some people are feeling left out. If Ahmed Husen takes these South Afrrican whites in then he will have to let even more non whites in to replace them. There is a lot of work to do as it is with Canada still having such a white majority. Vancouver has proven how wonderful Canada can be once white supremacy has been dethroned. All of Canada must be transformed and we must struggle against white supremist relic of Canada's racist colonial founding.
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Ahmed Husen is right in keeping South African whites from getting refugee status. Did Canada give South African blacks refugee status during the aparthied years? These white farmers are being killed because some people are feeling left out. If Ahmed Husen takes these South Afrrican whites in then he will have to let even more non whites in to replace them. There is a lot of work to do as it is with Canada still having such a white majority. Vancouver has proven how wonderful Canada can be once white supremacy has been dethroned. All of Canada must be transformed and we must struggle against white supremist relic of Canada's racist colonial founding.
Sing it lance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bh9xQ0i2bw
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Ahmed Husen is right in keeping South African whites from getting refugee status. Did Canada give South African blacks refugee status during the aparthied years? These white farmers are being killed because some people are feeling left out. If Ahmed Husen takes these South Afrrican whites in then he will have to let even more non whites in to replace them. There is a lot of work to do as it is with Canada still having such a white majority. Vancouver has proven how wonderful Canada can be once white supremacy has been dethroned. All of Canada must be transformed and we must struggle against white supremist relic of Canada's racist colonial founding.
Hussein is a refugee himself.
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Ahmed Husen is right in keeping South African whites from getting refugee status. Did Canada give South African blacks refugee status during the aparthied years? These white farmers are being killed because some people are feeling left out. If Ahmed Husen takes these South Afrrican whites in then he will have to let even more non whites in to replace them. There is a lot of work to do as it is with Canada still having such a white majority. Vancouver has proven how wonderful Canada can be once white supremacy has been dethroned. All of Canada must be transformed and we must struggle against white supremist relic of Canada's racist colonial founding.
I don't know if we did or not..
If we did, I would say not very many.
South Africa has dismissed allegations its white farmers are "persecuted" after an Australian minister said they needed help from a "civilised" country.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said he was exploring giving South Africa's white farmers access to fast-track visas on humanitarian grounds.
The suggestion was made amid calls to transfer land ownership from white to black farmers in South Africa, and fears over the number of farm killings.
"If you look at the footage and read the stories, you hear the accounts, it's a horrific circumstance they face," he said.
Mr Dutton added: "We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare. And I think these people deserve special attention and we're certainly applying that special attention now."[/quote]
Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi oi oi!
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But South Africa says it is ridiculous.
Government spokesman Ndivhuwo Mabaya told the BBC there was no reason for any country in the world to suspect a section of the South African population was in danger from its democratically elected leaders.
"There's no need for anyone to be scared or to fear anything," he said. "The land redistribution programme will be done according to the law. We want to say to our friends across the world that there's no need to panic."
He concluded: "We remain a united nation here in South Africa - both black and white."
In other words, the South African government's response is

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I'm waiting to see if the lefties call Australians racist now. :pop:
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South Africa has dismissed allegations its white farmers are "persecuted" after an Australian minister said they needed help from a "civilised" country.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said he was exploring giving South Africa's white farmers access to fast-track visas on humanitarian grounds.
The suggestion was made amid calls to transfer land ownership from white to black farmers in South Africa, and fears over the number of farm killings.
"If you look at the footage and read the stories, you hear the accounts, it's a horrific circumstance they face," he said.
Mr Dutton added: "We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare. And I think these people deserve special attention and we're certainly applying that special attention now."
Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi oi oi!
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But South Africa says it is ridiculous.
Government spokesman Ndivhuwo Mabaya told the BBC there was no reason for any country in the world to suspect a section of the South African population was in danger from its democratically elected leaders.
"There's no need for anyone to be scared or to fear anything," he said. "The land redistribution programme will be done according to the law. We want to say to our friends across the world that there's no need to panic."
He concluded: "We remain a united nation here in South Africa - both black and white."
In other words, the South African government's response is

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I'm waiting to see if the lefties call Australians racist now. :pop:[/quote]
We'll see if Australia actually does anything.
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South Africa has dismissed allegations its white farmers are "persecuted" after an Australian minister said they needed help from a "civilised" country.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said he was exploring giving South Africa's white farmers access to fast-track visas on humanitarian grounds.
The suggestion was made amid calls to transfer land ownership from white to black farmers in South Africa, and fears over the number of farm killings.
"If you look at the footage and read the stories, you hear the accounts, it's a horrific circumstance they face," he said.
Mr Dutton added: "We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare. And I think these people deserve special attention and we're certainly applying that special attention now."
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Canada is ignoring the persecution of Caucasian South African farmers.
Its a major issue here.
We're not buying what the corrupt and racist South African government is saying.
White "Seth Efrikans" will be allowed in Australia, and the leftards can go screw themselves.
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Its a major issue here.
We're not buying what the corrupt and racist South African government is saying.
White "Seth Efrikans" will be allowed in Australia, and the leftards can go screw themselves.
Canadians are in the dark about the urgent situation in South Africa.
No. You're not just in the dark. Canada has rejected white south africans claim for refugee status.
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A case of a white family seeking asylum, on the basis that they were persecuted for being white in a majority black country, was rejected in 2017 by the Canadian Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB).
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Its a major issue here.
We're not buying what the corrupt and racist South African government is saying.
White "Seth Efrikans" will be allowed in Australia, and the leftards can go screw themselves.
Canadians are in the dark about the urgent situation in South Africa.
The only place I have read about it is here. Not a single parliamentarian has brought this forward either in or outside the house of commons.
Well of course not. Its not blacks, muslims or Mexicans being persecuted.
Canada seems uninterested in the plight of white people.
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Its a major issue here.
We're not buying what the corrupt and racist South African government is saying.
White "Seth Efrikans" will be allowed in Australia, and the leftards can go screw themselves.
Good for Aus. :thumbup:
Just like Canada, nobody in the US is talking about this, not even the right wing media.
Too frightened.
"Ooooo....can't protect white people...especially Seth Efrikans...bastards deserve what they get."
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Too frightened.
"Ooooo....can't protect white people...especially Seth Efrikans...bastards deserve what they get."
We'll have to see what happens. So far its apparently just an Aussie minister talking about this, that's a good start, but its not the government saying yet that they will take them in.
Its a major story in most of our news media...including the observation that Australia seems to be the only country who cares about the whites.
Pitiful. Their skin colour is irrelevant. We take in blacks, asians and arabs all the time.
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Too frightened.
"Ooooo....can't protect white people...especially Seth Efrikans...bastards deserve what they get."
We'll have to see what happens. So far its apparently just an Aussie minister talking about this, that's a good start, but its not the government saying yet that they will take them in.
That's a long way from welcoming persecuted South Africans, but at least parliamentarians are talking about it.
^yes it is a good start, not far enough yet, but better than anywhere else.
But the left hasn't geared up that much yet, they will. The attacks on Mr Dutton are just beginning--
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/world/australia/south-africa-white-farmers-peter-dutton.html
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The comments from Mr. Dutton, a member of the center-right governing Liberal Party, also raised eyebrows in Australia, where immigration is a hot-button issue and Liberal Party politicians have been accused of using race as a political tool.
Thousands of predominantly Muslim migrants from the Middle East and Southeast Asia have languished in offshore detention facilities for years under a policy that denied asylum seekers traveling by boat entrance to Australia. Last year, Australia agreed to pay $53 million in damages to migrants who said they had suffered abuse in the camps.
Mr. Dutton has been a staunch defender of the offshore detention policy, and he has argued that Australia should not accept refugees who would be a burden on the country's social safety net.
In January, Mr. Dutton also blamed African migrants for a rise in crime in Melbourne, claiming in an interview that residents of the city were afraid even to go to restaurants at night "because they're followed home by these gangs."
Critics of the government said that those remarks were intended to scare voters before an election and that official crime data showed no such correlation with immigration.
BTW I didn't know this, very interesting (to me at least)
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According to government statistics, more immigrants to Australia are born in South Africa than in any other African country. As of 2016, 181,400 Australian residents were South African natives, according to the latest census. The government does not break down that figure by race, but white South Africans have been moving to Australia in large numbers for decades.
Even though the white Seth Efrikans are orginally Dutch, for some reason Australia has taken more of a liking to them than other countries have.
Seth Efrika has always had a positive relationship with Australia, given their many common national characteristics.
Both were nations created by colonialism (I'm not saying that's good or bad...just our shared reality).
Both practiced a form of apartheid (Australia was very racist until the 1970's).
Our climates and geography are very similar.
Our cultural personalities are very similar. (Probably due to the factors above).
Both nations have a shared passion for sport.
Whilst Australia shed its racist policies some time before South Africa, we benefited from the fact that our indigenous population was both small and under-developed. South African whites are very much the minority, whilst Australian whites outnumber aborigines 50 to 1.
Nonetheless, some of these commonalities also apply to Canada, so it surprises me that Canada will welcome muslims with open arms, but not their own kind. Canada has no right or reason to climb on a high moral pedestal. Nor the US or New Zealand (where South Africans will also be welcomed).
Australia abandoned its pro-apartheid stand, and Canada always opposed it. It was abhorrent...but South Africans were not alone. Apartheid was very much modelled on the American segregation model. Black South Africans probably deserve to have their country returned to them...but in an ordered and humane manner, allowing and enabling whites to leave with dignity, to nations that accept them with understanding and humility for their own sordid past.
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Nonetheless, some of these commonalities also apply to Canada, so it surprises me that Canada will welcome muslims with open arms, but not their own kind. Canada has no right or reason to climb on a high moral pedestal. Nor the US or New Zealand (where South Africans will also be welcomed).
This was the same with America under Obama and still much of Europe. Efforts were taken to bring in large numbers of Muslims. Why? probably the left's virtue signalling and globalism. The lefties can pat themseloves on the back for being wonderfully non racist by taking in a diverse group, even though many are incompatible with western values. Also the left wants to eliminate white majorities and feed their parties votes from a permanent minority underclass many of which are dependent on government for support.
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Australia abandoned its pro-apartheid stand, and Canada always opposed it. It was abhorrent...but South Africans were not alone. Apartheid was very much modelled on the American segregation model. Black South Africans probably deserve to have their country returned to them...but in an ordered and humane manner, allowing and enabling whites to leave with dignity, to nations that accept them with understanding and humility for their own sordid past.
Well said. :thumbup:
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Whilst Australia shed its racist policies some time before South Africa, we benefited from the fact that our indigenous population was both small and under-developed. South African whites are very much the minority, whilst Australian whites outnumber aborigines 50 to 1.
At the risk of a derail What are relations between White Australians and Aborgines like?
South Africa used to have lot of Ahkenazis, but most have left. Britain, Canada and the US won't fast track Afrikaaners who need to flee now. Most that emigrate will end up in Australia and New Zealand. I pity the poor white South Africans who can't leave.
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At the risk of a derail What are relations between White Australians and Aborigines like?
Exactly the same as every other relationship between colonial white people and indigenous people the world over. Uncomfortable, discordant and resentful.
Actually, pretty much the same as all white and non-white communities. :negative:
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At the risk of a derail What are relations between White Australians and Aborigines like?
Exactly the same as every other relationship between colonial white people and indigenous people the world over. Uncomfortable, discordant and resentful.
Actually, pretty much the same as all white and non-white communities. :negative:
That good huh :laugh:
I often wonder if we'd be better off splitting countries. Like in the US, give blacks a certain number of states of their choosing and they can go there if they don't want to live with whites.
Yep.
Whoever it is thought racial diversity is a good idea is not paying attention to what is really happening in the community...and not viewed from some lofty ideological political campanile.
I had expected this, I hoped I was wrong, but here it is,. (the left is gearing up for a fight on SA immigration)
Bringing white South African farmers to Australia as part of a special humanitarian program would be a return to the White Australia policy, Greens leader Richard Di Natale has said. Senator Di Natale called that racist.
"There's no debate as far as I'm concerned, the bloke is an out-and-out racist," Senator Di Natale said. "According to Peter Dutton, if you're a white South African farmer you are going to make a great contribution, you're not going to bludge on welfare. But if you're not white, you won't do any of those things."
Conservative MPs back Dutton. Several MPs are calling for a special humanitarian intake of "persecuted" white South African farmers.
Senator Di Natale called it remarkable Mr Dutton would seek to give preferential treatment to people on the basis of their skin colour.
"That's the difference between white South African farmers and other people that are being persecuted," he said. "This is not a dog whistle, it's a fog horn."
A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton declined to respond to the Greens leader, saying: "The Minister has nothing further to add at this point in time."
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull did not directly respond when asked if the Government stands by Mr Dutton's comments.
"We have a non-discriminatory humanitarian program," he said.
"We have migrants to Australia from every part of the world, including of course the countries of ASEAN," Mr Turnbull said at the start of the ASEAN summit in Sydney.[/quote]
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[size=150]South Africa Demands Retraction From Australia After Minister Offers 'Civilized' Help to White South African Farmers
https://www.theroot.com/south-africa-demands-retraction-from-australia-after-mi-1823831573
"The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian home affairs minister and a full retraction is expected," said the foreign ministry.
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I had expected this, I hoped I was wrong, but here it is,. (the left is gearing up for a fight on SA immigration)
Bringing white South African farmers to Australia as part of a special humanitarian program would be a return to the White Australia policy, Greens leader Richard Di Natale has said. Senator Di Natale called that racist.
"There's no debate as far as I'm concerned, the bloke is an out-and-out racist," Senator Di Natale said. "According to Peter Dutton, if you're a white South African farmer you are going to make a great contribution, you're not going to bludge on welfare. But if you're not white, you won't do any of those things."
Conservative MPs back Dutton. Several MPs are calling for a special humanitarian intake of "persecuted" white South African farmers.
Senator Di Natale called it remarkable Mr Dutton would seek to give preferential treatment to people on the basis of their skin colour.
"That's the difference between white South African farmers and other people that are being persecuted," he said. "This is not a dog whistle, it's a fog horn."
A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton declined to respond to the Greens leader, saying: "The Minister has nothing further to add at this point in time."
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull did not directly respond when asked if the Government stands by Mr Dutton's comments.
"We have a non-discriminatory humanitarian program," he said.
"We have migrants to Australia from every part of the world, including of course the countries of ASEAN," Mr Turnbull said at the start of the ASEAN summit in Sydney.
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Because the persecuted happen to be white, it's racist. Canada took in refugees from Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 68.
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I had expected this, I hoped I was wrong, but here it is,. (the left is gearing up for a fight on SA immigration)
Bringing white South African farmers to Australia as part of a special humanitarian program would be a return to the White Australia policy, Greens leader Richard Di Natale has said. Senator Di Natale called that racist.
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Di Natale is the leader of the biggest cabal of nut jobs ever to infest our Parliament.
No sane and sensible person takes these Greens seriously. They are, in spirit and principle, Communists using "Environmentalism" as their spearhead, and recruiting young people through universities via the deception of "saving the planet".
They are reviled by most Australians.
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I had expected this, I hoped I was wrong, but here it is,. (the left is gearing up for a fight on SA immigration)
Bringing white South African farmers to Australia as part of a special humanitarian program would be a return to the White Australia policy, Greens leader Richard Di Natale has said. Senator Di Natale called that racist.
Di Natale is the leader of the biggest cabal of nut jobs ever to infest our Parliament.
No sane and sensible person takes these Greens seriously. They are, in spirit and principle, Communists using "Environmentalism" as their spearhead, and recruiting young people through universities via the deception of "saving the planet".
They are reviled by most Australians.[/quote]
Greens are usually well off and hate working people. Actually, they hate all people.
It is so racist bringing white South Africans to a beautiful country like Australia. There are already far too many white people in Australia already. This will only make it more difficult to replace them.
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I had expected this, I hoped I was wrong, but here it is,. (the left is gearing up for a fight on SA immigration)
Bringing white South African farmers to Australia as part of a special humanitarian program would be a return to the White Australia policy, Greens leader Richard Di Natale has said. Senator Di Natale called that racist.
Di Natale is the leader of the biggest cabal of nut jobs ever to infest our Parliament.
No sane and sensible person takes these Greens seriously. They are, in spirit and principle, Communists using "Environmentalism" as their spearhead, and recruiting young people through universities via the deception of "saving the planet".
They are reviled by most Australians.
Greens are usually well off and hate working people. Actually, they hate all people.[/quote]
They seem to have a special revulsion for white people though.
Apparently, because they identify as green, they don't consider themselves white.
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I had expected this, I hoped I was wrong, but here it is,. (the left is gearing up for a fight on SA immigration)
Bringing white South African farmers to Australia as part of a special humanitarian program would be a return to the White Australia policy, Greens leader Richard Di Natale has said. Senator Di Natale called that racist.
Di Natale is the leader of the biggest cabal of nut jobs ever to infest our Parliament.
No sane and sensible person takes these Greens seriously. They are, in spirit and principle, Communists using "Environmentalism" as their spearhead, and recruiting young people through universities via the deception of "saving the planet".
They are reviled by most Australians.
Greens are usually well off and hate working people. Actually, they hate all people.
They seem to have a special revulsion for white people though.
Apparently, because they identify as green, they don't consider themselves white.[/quote]
Maybe it's just me, but the Green Party of Canada's base seems to be affluent Caucasians.
https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
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https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
Scary. And the goverment backs them.
The latest news on SA and Aus
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232561/no-special-visas-for-south-african-farmers-aus-foreign-minister/
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Australia's foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, says the country's humanitarian visa programme won't change to fast-track white South African farmers' entry into the country – and there are no plans to do so.
Speaking to Australian media on Sunday, however, Bishop said that there would be no special visa consideration for white South African farmers.
Bishop said that the country's humanitarian visa programme was non-discriminatory and that each application is processed on its own merits, adding that there has been no change to that policy.
Bishop confirmed that Australia's High Commissioner in South Africa was holding talks with the South African Government to clarify the basis of the visa program and to understand what their intentions are with land reforms that the government is implementing.
She also noted that the Australian government was keeping track of crime levels in South Africa, and noted with concern the 'dramatic increase' in violent crime in the country.
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232561/no-special-visas-for-south-african-farmers-aus-foreign-minister/
What's race based about fast tracking South Africans who are being persecuted because of their race.
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The latest news on SA and Aus
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232561/no-special-visas-for-south-african-farmers-aus-foreign-minister/
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Australia's foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, says the country's humanitarian visa programme won't change to fast-track white South African farmers' entry into the country – and there are no plans to do so.
Speaking to Australian media on Sunday, however, Bishop said that there would be no special visa consideration for white South African farmers.
Bishop said that the country's humanitarian visa programme was non-discriminatory and that each application is processed on its own merits, adding that there has been no change to that policy.
Bishop confirmed that Australia's High Commissioner in South Africa was holding talks with the South African Government to clarify the basis of the visa program and to understand what their intentions are with land reforms that the government is implementing.
She also noted that the Australian government was keeping track of crime levels in South Africa, and noted with concern the 'dramatic increase' in violent crime in the country.
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232561/no-special-visas-for-south-african-farmers-aus-foreign-minister/
Bishop is one of the Ministers that the public simply can't stand. She is a progtard in a conservative government.
If she goes head to head with the Immigration Minister she will lose big time.
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The latest news on SA and Aus
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232561/no-special-visas-for-south-african-farmers-aus-foreign-minister/
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Australia's foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, says the country's humanitarian visa programme won't change to fast-track white South African farmers' entry into the country – and there are no plans to do so.
Speaking to Australian media on Sunday, however, Bishop said that there would be no special visa consideration for white South African farmers.
Bishop said that the country's humanitarian visa programme was non-discriminatory and that each application is processed on its own merits, adding that there has been no change to that policy.
Bishop confirmed that Australia's High Commissioner in South Africa was holding talks with the South African Government to clarify the basis of the visa program and to understand what their intentions are with land reforms that the government is implementing.
She also noted that the Australian government was keeping track of crime levels in South Africa, and noted with concern the 'dramatic increase' in violent crime in the country.
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/232561/no-special-visas-for-south-african-farmers-aus-foreign-minister/
Bishop is one of the Ministers that the public simply can't stand. She is a progtard in a conservative government.
If she goes head to head with the Immigration Minister she will lose big time.
I hope so.
This lady has a very good point. Black people need to take everything from white people.
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https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
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This lady has a very good point. Black people need to take everything from white people.
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https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
You mean the state has a right to confiscate private property?
I don't want to live in an authoritarian country like that.
Its worse than that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAI9SmpePno
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This lady has a very good point. Black people need to take everything from white people.
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https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
You mean the state has a right to confiscate private property?
I don't want to live in an authoritarian country like that.
If you don't pay property taxes or rates, they steal your property. Same thing.
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This lady has a very good point. Black people need to take everything from white people.
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https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
You mean the state has a right to confiscate private property?
I don't want to live in an authoritarian country like that.
If you don't pay property taxes or rates, they steal your property. Same thing.
But, you get something in return. Schools, snow clearing, lights, potholes fixed for example. White South African farmers are getting nothing in return for their land.
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This lady has a very good point. Black people need to take everything from white people.
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https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/556528334727905/
You mean the state has a right to confiscate private property?
I don't want to live in an authoritarian country like that.
If you don't pay property taxes or rates, they steal your property. Same thing.
But, you get something in return. Schools, snow clearing, lights, potholes fixed for example. White South African farmers are getting nothing in return for their land.
The illusion of getting something in return under the threat of blatant theft by the state, and bodily harm if you resist.
So, Monsieur Descartes...what will your little Utopia look like?
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http://www.faithwire.com/2018/03/21/teaching-whites-a-lesson-one-white-farmer-is-being-killed-every-five-days-in-south-africa-after-controversial-land-reform-proposal/
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Mr Malema has previously described land seizures as "teaching whites a lesson."
"We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land," he said in response to the motion passing by 241 votes to 83.
n a speech delivered Wednesday, Malema said it was time for the white farmers to leave. "They must leave the keys of the tractors, because we want to work the land," the controversial figure declared, as reported by Times Live. "They must leave the keys of the houses, because we want to stay in those houses."
I've seen some comments on sites suggesting that white south africans should burn their houses and farms down as they leave.
He is a raging Stalinist lunatic. And probably psychopathic.
Whites need to go. Now.
And Australia needs to stop foreign aid payments to South Africa.
I believe people all over the world are outraged at Australia for taking in white farmers from South Africa when they try to keep the migrants out.
South African Politician Blasts "Racist" Australia For Harboring Fleeing White Farmers
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-22/south-african-politician-blasts-racist-australia-harboring-fleeing-white-farmers
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I believe people all over the world are outraged at Australia for taking in white farmers from South Africa when they try to keep the migrants out.
South African Politician Blasts "Racist" Australia For Harboring Fleeing White Farmers
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-22/south-african-politician-blasts-racist-australia-harboring-fleeing-white-farmers
There's a difference between economic refugees and in the current case of South African property owners, having their livelihoods taken by legislation and mob rule... sometimes their lives.
Are you able to make the distinction or are you too brainwashed and racially insensitive to people with lesser skin pigmentation for you to bother?
Grow up and find a conscience. There are children being born every day who are automatically second class humans in your fury, despite having no notions or environment to want ill on others. The more you push anti white ethnicity bullshit, the more it will be reciprocated back.
Oh, and fck yourself with a reciprocating saw. :thumbup:
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I believe people all over the world are outraged at Australia for taking in white farmers from South Africa when they try to keep the migrants out.
South African Politician Blasts "Racist" Australia For Harboring Fleeing White Farmers
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-22/south-african-politician-blasts-racist-australia-harboring-fleeing-white-farmers
There's a difference between economic refugees and in the current case of South African property owners, having their livelihoods taken by legislation and mob rule... sometimes their lives.
Are you able to make the distinction or are you too brainwashed and racially insensitive to people with lesser skin pigmentation for you to bother?
Grow up and find a conscience. There are children being born every day who are automatically second class humans in your fury, despite having no notions or environment to want ill on others. The more you push anti white ethnicity bullshit, the more it will be reciprocated back.
Oh, and fck yourself with a reciprocating saw. :thumbup:
Lance thinks Caucasians are morally inferior.
I think Lance should eat rocks and go swimming.
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I think Lance should eat rocks and go swimming.
He says he wants to replace Caucasians, so that's a start.
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I believe people all over the world are outraged at Australia for taking in white farmers from South Africa when they try to keep the migrants out.
That's how we like it.
While all other western nations bow at the feet of non-white demagogues, Australia keeps the caucasian flag flying.
Latest news for South Africa and refugees going to Australia
Another Aus pol Fraser Anning claims that South African farmers are at risk of genocide
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/26/fraser-anning-claims-that-south-african-farmers-are-at-risk-of-genocide
Thank you, Australia': Hundreds rally in Brisbane to highlight the plight of South African farmers
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/thank-you-australia-hundreds-rally-in-brisbane-to-highlight-the-plight-of-south-african-farmers/news-story/80c20ce7015e12e4de4cf8e49a105d0e
More marches for South Africa planned in Australia
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/more-marches-for-south-africa-planned-in-australia-20180326
South African white woman gets prison for racist rant
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-white-woman-gets-prison-for-racist-rant/2018/03/28/a00799ae-3276-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.4b2e62820978
So this south African woman will get prison time for hate speech, but Malema the head of the EFF who said he would "cut the throat of whiteness" will get none, even though this woman is a danger to no one, whereas Melama's is a huge danger as he is inciting genocide against a group in serious danger of genocide, and he is a prominent political figure with a huge following.
Sigh--Progtard double standards are world wide!
To any informed observer, the descent of South Africa into chaos and depravity is neither surprising or unexpected.
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South African white woman gets prison for racist rant
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-white-woman-gets-prison-for-racist-rant/2018/03/28/a00799ae-3276-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.4b2e62820978
So this south African woman will get prison time for hate speech, but Malema the head of the EFF who said he would "cut the throat of whiteness" will get none, even though this woman is a danger to no one, whereas Melama's is a huge danger as he is inciting genocide against a group in serious danger of genocide, and he is a prominent political figure with a huge following.
Sigh--Progtard double standards are world wide!
ac_wot
Looks like white south Africans won't be getting much help from Oz after all
Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has reportedly retracted Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton's offer to assist white South African farmers with "fast-tracked" visas.
Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop have, according to the Daily Maverick, " implicitly refuting Dutton's offer".
Dutton, though, has not retracted his comments about visas, however, the matter is considered "closed".
Bishop confirmed that Australia does monitor the rate of violent crime in South Africa, but said in an interview with ABC News that the humanitarian programme is:
"Non-discriminatory and each application is considered on its merits and I believe the humanitarian programme's credibility comes from the fact that it is non-discriminatory and that each application is assessed on its merits".
Later, Turnbull repeated the "non-discriminatory humanitarian programme" line.
The Daily Maverick further reported:
Diplomatic sources said given the nature of Dutton, it would have been unrealistic to expect him to publicly retract his remarks. But they noted that Turnbull and Bishop had effectively done so for him – and he hadn't contradicted their statements.
Dutton's comments unleashed a torrent of reaction from both sides.
International Relations and Co-operation Minister Lindiwe Sisulu demanded a response from the Australian government while Dutton initially stood by his claims.
A solidarity march was also held in Australia in support of the decision.
Sisulu also said that she had received a letter from the Australian government responding and that she was "satisfied". The South African government reportedly considers the matter to be closed.
Dutton's comments were also viewed as hypocritical by human rights groups.
Australia has previously been criticised for ignoring human rights violations elsewhere. Dutton's promise to "help those who are being persecuted" has been identified as hypocritical, whilst the government have many other refugees waiting for a decision on their futures.[/quote]
I don't understand why some Australian members of parliament believe accepting persecuted Caucasian farmers is discriminatory..
The South African government is discriminating against a segment of it's population.
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I don't understand why some Australian members of parliament believe accepting persecuted Caucasian farmers is discriminatory.
Haven't you received the memo? White people are bad! Everyone else is good!
Our idiot Prime Minister, who is supposed to be a conservative, as a rabid leftard. He has a year to go before he's voted out.
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Our idiot Prime Minister, who is supposed to be a conservative, as a rabid leftard. He has a year to go before he's voted out.
And then what? The Labour Party.
Out of the frying pan...into the fire.
Our political system is a mess.
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Out of the frying pan...into the fire.
Our political system is a mess.
Maybe, but at least there are politicians in Australia who gave it a valiant try. Nobody anywhere else did that. (and it may not be over just yuet)
BTW many nations have been blamed for not taking in Jewish refugees around the time of the holocaust., Some even even issued apologies or at least proposed apologizing--The US, Canada, Australia probably more.
Yet history will most likely be repeated with South African refugees.
MELBOURNE, Australia — South Africa's foreign minister said Monday that the Australian government had retracted comments by its home affairs minister suggesting that South Africa was not a "civilized country" because of its treatment of white farmers.
In March, the minister, Peter Dutton, said that "persecuted" South African farmers deserved the protection of a "civilized country" — alluding to Australia — and said he would explore the possibility of fast-tracking refugee visas for them. Mr. Dutton's comments, as well as his suggestion that the farmers faced a "horrific circumstance," drew fury in Pretoria, where government officials quickly demanded a retraction.
South Africa's minister of international relations and cooperation, Lindiwe Sisulu, said that Australia's prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, and foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, had retracted Mr. Dutton's comments and assured South African officials that they were "not in line with Australian immigration policy."
Mr. Turnbull's office did not immediately respond to a request seeking confirmation of Ms. Sisulu's account, which did not indicate when or how the retraction took place.
On Tuesday, Mr. Dutton's office released a statement countering Ms. Sisulu's assertions that the Turnbull government had retracted his comments.[/quote]
Australia's Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton says it's "unquestionable" some white South African farmers are being persecuted and his department is looking into specific cases.
Mr. Dutton also told Sky News Australia that no one in the government has retracted his offer to help white South African farmers who are eligible to be resettled under Australia's refugee program, despite the South African government claiming Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had done so.
On the contrary, he maintains that his department is "looking into" specific cases and Australia will do what it can for people in "desperate" situations.[/quote]
Dutton is lining up for a shot at the Prime Ministers job. The current incumbent is a useless POS, and totally unelectable.
This article is harsh, but I believe it really assesses the situation in south Africa, I read the entire thing, something I rarely do.
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Last time I was in South Africa I spent two weeks deep in the Karoo, that desiccated wasteland in the Northern Cape which is home only to a handful of jackals, the occasional springbok and supporters of the Afrikaaner Resistance Movement. I had been visiting Orania, a smallish town in which no black people are allowed. Set up by the son-in-law of Hendrik Verwoerd, its existence now is very grudgingly protected by the South African government under regulations which preserve minority cultures — ah, the irony.
Didn't the Orania people therefore have a point, I wondered, even if it was one only of self-preservation? The point — a dream, for some of them — was to carve out a new nation for Afrikaaners across a hugely unprofitable swathe of the north of the country, from Kimberley to the coast. A new Boer trek, a new homeland. And of course they would make it work, despite the aridity and the inhospitable landscape, because when it comes to farming and modernity they are extremely competent. Racist and competent, while the blacks were racist and hilariously incompetent. Orania was thriving and, like Israel (which is not a bad comparison), turning the desert green.
(Meanwhile) the ANC was well on its way to reducing a country which, during apartheid, was easily the richest on the continent south of the Sahel (and afforded its black citizens the highest average wage and longest life expectancy in Africa) into a typically corrupt, massively useless, vicious and racist one-party state which is on the verge of civil war and where the blacks are worse off than ever and the whites are being murdered or evicted.
the problem is everyone assumes that when racist systems like apartheid and segregation end, that blacks will thrive. But that hasn't happened in the US and south Africa. So it is assumed that racism must still exist, must still be holding them back. But is it really?
I think its clear that black and white view the world quite differently.
Trying to combine the two is folly.
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This article is harsh, but I believe it really assesses the situation in south Africa, I read the entire thing, something I rarely do.
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Last time I was in South Africa I spent two weeks deep in the Karoo, that desiccated wasteland in the Northern Cape which is home only to a handful of jackals, the occasional springbok and supporters of the Afrikaaner Resistance Movement. I had been visiting Orania, a smallish town in which no black people are allowed. Set up by the son-in-law of Hendrik Verwoerd, its existence now is very grudgingly protected by the South African government under regulations which preserve minority cultures — ah, the irony.
Didn't the Orania people therefore have a point, I wondered, even if it was one only of self-preservation? The point — a dream, for some of them — was to carve out a new nation for Afrikaaners across a hugely unprofitable swathe of the north of the country, from Kimberley to the coast. A new Boer trek, a new homeland. And of course they would make it work, despite the aridity and the inhospitable landscape, because when it comes to farming and modernity they are extremely competent. Racist and competent, while the blacks were racist and hilariously incompetent. Orania was thriving and, like Israel (which is not a bad comparison), turning the desert green.
(Meanwhile) the ANC was well on its way to reducing a country which, during apartheid, was easily the richest on the continent south of the Sahel (and afforded its black citizens the highest average wage and longest life expectancy in Africa) into a typically corrupt, massively useless, vicious and racist one-party state which is on the verge of civil war and where the blacks are worse off than ever and the whites are being murdered or evicted.
the problem is everyone assumes that when racist systems like apartheid and segregation end, that blacks will thrive. But that hasn't happened in the US and south Africa. So it is assumed that racism must still exist, must still be holding them back. But is it really?
White South Africans don't trust homelands like Orania. Once they become prosperous they too will be confiscated.
Bloemfontein - Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema is expected to appear in the Bloemfontein Magistrate's Court on Friday, where he is facing charges relating to his calls for illegal land occupation.
Malema faces charges of contravening the Riotous Assemblies Act after calling for land invasions.
In 2014, at the EFF elective conference in Bloemfontein, Malema told party members that they should occupy the land.
When appearing in court in Bloemfontein on those charges in 2016, he again told supporters who had gathered outside the court to take any "beautiful piece of land" they saw because it was taken from blacks "by genocide".
Malema's legal team is disputing the constitutionality of the Riotous Assembly Act. The EFF has accused the State of using "apartheid era laws" to try to silence its critics.
In a separate case, Malema appeared in the Newcastle Magistrate's Court in July, on common law charges of incitement to commit a crime.
The charge sheet indicates that he is accused of trespassing in contravention of "Section 1(1) Read as Section 2(1) of Trespass Act 6 of 1959 as amended by Criminal Law Amendment Act 59 of 1983".
In June 2016, Malema told supporters in Newcastle to occupy land because it belonged to blacks - whites could not claim ownership of land.
He appeared in the Newcastle Magistrate's Court under the Riotous Assemblies Act and after the postponement, Malema stepped outside the court and told his supporters to "occupy the land because they have failed to give you the land".
"If it means going to prison for telling you to take the land, so be it. I am not scared of prison because of the land question, but I am scared of prison if I go to prison for corruption. I don't want to go to prison for corruption, but I want to go to prison for the land," he said at the time.[/quote]
Can you imagine how dull South Africa would be without white people, EFF leader Julius Malema said to much laughter outside the Bloemfontein Magistrate's Court on Friday, after his case was postponed to July 27.
"South Africa would be boring without whites. They have naturalised. It's like waking up one day and there are no trees. They are part of SA, but they must share the land," he told hundreds of his supporters from the podium of a large truck on the street in front of the court, Netwerk24 reported.
"We won't chase you into the sea." [/quote]
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Julius Malema says 'SA would be boring without whites'
Scapegoating law abiding, hard working Afrikaaners is fun.
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Julius Malema says 'SA would be boring without whites'
Scapegoating law abiding, hard working Afrikaaners is fun.
Malema is chilling a bit because he is in court. I think He will ramp it back up when he knows its safe again.
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[size=150]Treatment of white South African farmers sparks protest clash outside Julie Bishop's office in Perth[/size]
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Right and left-wing groups have faced off outside Foreign Minister Julie Bishop's office during a protest over the treatment of white farmers in South Africa.
Members of the Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA) and other groups delivered a petition calling on the Federal Government to create a special refugee visa category for the farmers.
Both sides taunted each other from across the street, with the left-wingers holding signs saying "fight racism".
the left's slogan is "fight racism". How ironic.
the left can find "institutional" and "systemic racism" in America and canada. but in south Africa where whites are fleeing for their lives from a country who just voted to take their land without compensation, there's no racism to be found.
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[size=150]Treatment of white South African farmers sparks protest clash outside Julie Bishop's office in Perth[/size]
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Right and left-wing groups have faced off outside Foreign Minister Julie Bishop's office during a protest over the treatment of white farmers in South Africa.
Members of the Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA) and other groups delivered a petition calling on the Federal Government to create a special refugee visa category for the farmers.
Both sides taunted each other from across the street, with the left-wingers holding signs saying "fight racism".
the left's slogan is "fight racism". How ironic.
the left can find "institutional" and "systemic racism" in America and canada. but in south Africa where whites are fleeing for their lives from a country who just voted to take their land without compensation, there's no racism to be found.
Progtards can't see the forest for the trees.
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I thought this was done and the Australian government said no. BUT apparently its back on
Dutton is not far off from fast-tracking white South African farmers into Australia
Dutton has a fast-track plan to bring up to 10,000 relatives of Australians here
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5699655/Minister-Peter-Dutton-says-close-bringing-white-South-African-farmers-Australia.html#ixzz5FDSLLJue
Nope. We heff to prictiss ar Seth Efrikan now.
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I thought this was done and the Australian government said no. BUT apparently its back on
Dutton is not far off from fast-tracking white South African farmers into Australia
Dutton has a fast-track plan to bring up to 10,000 relatives of Australians here
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5699655/Minister-Peter-Dutton-says-close-bringing-white-South-African-farmers-Australia.html#ixzz5FDSLLJue
Nothing like that happening here.
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I think its clear that black and white view the world quite differently.
Trying to combine the two is folly.
Blacks are underachievers by nature, but they want to enjoy the good things of life, including medicine and technology.
The ones in Africa are pretty much doomed, but the ones living in civilized countries could have done much better in life if liberals hadn't put so much effort in talking the whole race into becoming thugs and hobos.
Black's situation in Africa is due to natural harshness and shitty culture.
Black's situation in the US is due to liberal speech.
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I think its clear that black and white view the world quite differently.
Trying to combine the two is folly.
Blacks are underachievers by nature, but they want to enjoy the good things of life, including medicine and technology.
The ones in Africa are pretty much doomed, but the ones living in civilized countries could have done much better in life if liberals hadn't put so much effort in talking the whole race into becoming thugs and hobos.
Black's situation in Africa is due to natural harshness and shitty culture.
Black's situation in the US is due to liberal speech.
There's a large African American middle class..
I know the middle class in Brazil grew during your resource boom, but it did lift many black Brazilians out of poverty.
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I thought this was done and the Australian government said no. BUT apparently its back on
Dutton is not far off from fast-tracking white South African farmers into Australia
Dutton has a fast-track plan to bring up to 10,000 relatives of Australians here
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5699655/Minister-Peter-Dutton-says-close-bringing-white-South-African-farmers-Australia.html#ixzz5FDSLLJue
I like this Pete Dutton. :thumbup:
He will be the next leader of the conservative party here when the current dumbshit is finally booted.
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He will be the next leader of the conservative party here when the current dumbshit is finally booted.
You lucky bastards. We don't have a real leader and I have a suspicion Andrew Scheer could be a progtard conservative.
Our current PM is one of those.
His time is almost nigh.
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Our current PM is one of those.
His time is almost nigh.
A general election or a coup within the governing Liberal party?
We were hoping for a coup...but they lost their nerve when the time was right.
So, it means he'll go to an unwinnable general election, get his party thrown out, and step down, condemning us to 4 years of socialism, unionism and corruption, leftard style.
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We were hoping for a coup...but they lost their nerve when the time was right.
So, it means he'll go to an unwinnable general election, get his party thrown out, and step down, condemning us to 4 years of socialism, unionism and corruption, leftard style.
You will have your own Justine for four years around the same time we are kicking Trudeau's imbecilic ass out of office.
No. Shorten is MUCH worse than Trudeau.

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No. Shorten is MUCH worse than Trudeau.

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I don't know much about Bill Shorten, but I find it hard to believe he could wreak more havoc than Justine has.
He's a union flunky, bought and paid for.
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I think its clear that black and white view the world quite differently.
Trying to combine the two is folly.
Blacks are underachievers by nature, but they want to enjoy the good things of life, including medicine and technology.
The ones in Africa are pretty much doomed, but the ones living in civilized countries could have done much better in life if liberals hadn't put so much effort in talking the whole race into becoming thugs and hobos.
Black's situation in Africa is due to natural harshness and shitty culture.
Black's situation in the US is due to liberal speech.
There's a large African American middle class..
I know the middle class in Brazil grew during your resource boom, but it did lift many black Brazilians out of poverty.
I agree and I kinda generalized a bit. But you can't deny. I mean, ok if you're living in the savanna with very limited resources. But it's not acceptable to see so many of them living like animals in tin shacks in favelas with 300k people in a country with 8.5 million square miles of tropical land. At some time they should realize that living in a community in the woods is better than that.
In my state's newspaper today, bang, a bunch of articles today with black whining. Same excuse as always - they don't hire me cuz I'm black. I don't get promoted because I'm black. I was fired cuz I'm black. And yada yada ad nauseum.
But when you see them "live", like I and many others do, when you get to hang out with them at some point in your life, you see that's a cultural thing. Party too much, fuck too much, always careless, always drunk, full of weird habits, brought up in broken homes where chaos is the norm.
A culture of irresponsibility, informality, always searching the easy way out. Throwing the evil liberal speech on top of it made it twice as bad.
I'm not feeling very sympathetic towards them today in special. A couple serial rats from the area, long criminal record, broke into the farm's house. Stole a TV and other things. In Brazil it's almost impossible to find a place that's too far from these people. Now with the lax land laws (basically invading land here is a way of life for many) they sprout everywhere. they find a patch of unclaimed or protected land and just invade. This one in particular is some fat hog of a woman, who was stealing my mangos and tilapia 10 years ago. She bred 6 rats and guess what, 2 of them are already career criminals. Started with small thefts, now they're breaking into homes. Now they will go to a jail for a couple weeks, learn some new tricks. Maybe next time they'll carjack someone under gunpoint in the roads leading to the ranch.
Blacks can be just like anyone else. They just need to be taught better.
Very, very few Blacks here, but I did briefly work with one a few years back on a construction site... Nice enough guy, but I'll be honest: He was lazy as fuck. Physically fit, but did the absolute minimum he could get away with.
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Very, very few Blacks here, but I did briefly work with one a few years back on a construction site... Nice enough guy, but I'll be honest: He was lazy as fuck. Physically fit, but did the absolute minimum he could get away with.
Even though their number is small they have gotten some attention. trudeau has talked about anti black racism, there have even been black lives matter marches in Canada, there has been much talk about raciail profiling as well.
As per usual-- blacks are 3 times more likely to commit violent crimes in Canada than whites, at least 5 times more than whites in America, and in Brazil about 3 times more than non blacks.
And its all OUR fault.
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I think its clear that black and white view the world quite differently.
Trying to combine the two is folly.
Blacks are underachievers by nature, but they want to enjoy the good things of life, including medicine and technology.
The ones in Africa are pretty much doomed, but the ones living in civilized countries could have done much better in life if liberals hadn't put so much effort in talking the whole race into becoming thugs and hobos.
Black's situation in Africa is due to natural harshness and shitty culture.
Black's situation in the US is due to liberal speech.
There's a large African American middle class..
I know the middle class in Brazil grew during your resource boom, but it did lift many black Brazilians out of poverty.
I agree and I kinda generalized a bit. But you can't deny. I mean, ok if you're living in the savanna with very limited resources. But it's not acceptable to see so many of them living like animals in tin shacks in favelas with 300k people in a country with 8.5 million square miles of tropical land. At some time they should realize that living in a community in the woods is better than that.
In my state's newspaper today, bang, a bunch of articles today with black whining. Same excuse as always - they don't hire me cuz I'm black. I don't get promoted because I'm black. I was fired cuz I'm black. And yada yada ad nauseum.
But when you see them "live", like I and many others do, when you get to hang out with them at some point in your life, you see that's a cultural thing. Party too much, fuck too much, always careless, always drunk, full of weird habits, brought up in broken homes where chaos is the norm.
A culture of irresponsibility, informality, always searching the easy way out. Throwing the evil liberal speech on top of it made it twice as bad.
I'm not feeling very sympathetic towards them today in special. A couple serial rats from the area, long criminal record, broke into the farm's house. Stole a TV and other things. In Brazil it's almost impossible to find a place that's too far from these people. Now with the lax land laws (basically invading land here is a way of life for many) they sprout everywhere. they find a patch of unclaimed or protected land and just invade. This one in particular is some fat hog of a woman, who was stealing my mangos and tilapia 10 years ago. She bred 6 rats and guess what, 2 of them are already career criminals. Started with small thefts, now they're breaking into homes. Now they will go to a jail for a couple weeks, learn some new tricks. Maybe next time they'll carjack someone under gunpoint in the roads leading to the ranch.
Blacks can be just like anyone else. They just need to be taught better.
That legal land squatting is the curse of Latin America. Quite a few countries have lazy thieves taking over property and the cops can't or won't boot their asses out.
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That legal land squatting is the curse of Latin America. Quite a few countries have lazy thieves taking over property and the cops can't or won't boot their asses out.
They have an organized movement here which is similar to a militia
They're constantly blocking highways. They invade numerous properties.
They have an urban one which squats buildings. And they are multiplying.
The riffraff here has found out that squatting is lucrative business.
Sounds like a country in crisis.
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The riffraff here has found out that squatting is lucrative business.
It sure as fuck is when the law enforcement has the backs of criminals.
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Sounds like a country in crisis.
It sure is.
And many crises. Identity, safety, economics, cultural, development and so on.
The biggest heartbreak for decent Brazilians is seeing the wasted potential. We had a taste of decent growth a decade ago and it let people wanting more. You can see the market, the possibility of growth and REAL progress.
But then you look at the whole picture and it's overwhelming. It's so many wrongs, people doing the unthinkable, nobody gives a shit about anything.
It's like a fucking curse, you have this huge mass of people living like a herd, voting for the same corrupt shit every 2 years. You just can't get a break from it. The corrupt judging the corrupt, the courts are ridden with hardcore lefties. It's like being stuck in quicksand, you pull one leg out only to have the other one going in deeper.
Of course, 3rd world is 3rd world. The human capital here is very low, no other way to put it.
You have the resources, the land, the climate. But when the whole thing is put in motion, nothing works.
You don't know where to pay attention, in the thieves in suits or the ones in motorcycles. You don't know what's more indignant, seeing someone kill and raping or knowing he'll get a ridiculous jail term. And if you're a minor, you have a free pass to mayhem in Brazil. Kill, rape and rob all you want.
Brazil is descending into some sort of bizarro world, where the cops arrest the decent folks for defending themselves. The people defend what's evil and corrupt, while demean what's good and morally correct.
I worked offshore in Brazil. But, I spent time in Rio. Sao Paulo and Belo Horizonte. I saw hope and despair, modern and backward. But, I didn't spend enough time there to know what's really going on. That and I don't speak Portuguese.
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Sounds like a country in crisis.
Brazil is descending into some sort of bizarro world, where the cops arrest the decent folks for defending themselves. The people defend what's evil and corrupt, while demean what's good and morally correct.
Samuel Francis came up with a term in the 90s to describe that--Anarcho-tyranny "we refuse to control real criminals (that's the anarchy) so we control the innocent (that's the tyranny)."
RBN if you don't mind me asking, what do you think could be done to fix Brazil's problems?
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Sounds like a country in crisis.
Brazil is descending into some sort of bizarro world, where the cops arrest the decent folks for defending themselves. The people defend what's evil and corrupt, while demean what's good and morally correct.
Samuel Francis came up with a term in the 90s to describe that--Anarcho-tyranny "we refuse to control real criminals (that's the anarchy) so we control the innocent (that's the tyranny)."
RBN if you don't mind me asking, what do you think could be done to fix Brazil's problems?
Brazil should have a complete overhaul on the way everything is done.
The constitution we currently have was written by the criminals who were right there to "save" the country when the military stepped down in 1986.
Full of loopholes, allows almost infinite appeals to keep rich criminals out of jail.
Also full of rights. but very few duties. Demagogy at its worst.
So you have that, but the very source of the problem is cultural.
Brazil is not a united country. Natives are still being massacred, the favelas are parallel states where they have their own courts and punishments. The rich can hide in their bladed wire mansions, driving around in their bulletproof fleets, always with a sec. detail. It feels like like those dystopias you see in movies.
So as for solutions, all you need to do is look at the models that were used in some Asian countries. Education, laws that work, enforcement of such laws.
As I said, with the potential we have here, only 200 million people should be able to live very well if they did their part. But it's not gonna happen.
This is the only law that works here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rson%27s_law
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I worked offshore in Brazil. But, I spent time in Rio. Sao Paulo and Belo Horizonte. I saw hope and despair, modern and backward. But, I didn't spend enough time there to know what's really going on. That and I don't speak Portuguese.
So, what did you think of people who would cramp themselves in those huge slums, when the minute you left the city, you can see endless empty expanses of land?
How do you deal with people that are so lazy and up to live in the worst conditions imaginable, as long as they don't have to work hard?
Seems to me a lot of them are employed.
In drug gangs.
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I worked offshore in Brazil. But, I spent time in Rio. Sao Paulo and Belo Horizonte. I saw hope and despair, modern and backward. But, I didn't spend enough time there to know what's really going on. That and I don't speak Portuguese.
So, what did you think of people who would cramp themselves in those huge slums, when the minute you left the city, you can see endless empty expanses of land?
How do you deal with people that are so lazy and up to live in the worst conditions imaginable, as long as they don't have to work hard?
You are preaching to the choir brother. There's lots of wealth in Brazil, but the low level human capital is holding the nation back. Put Asians or North Europeans in there and Brazil would have the highest living standards in the world.
Canada must not help white South Africans as they won't vote for Justin Trudeau and the Liberal party and as they will effortlessly assimilate with old stock Canadians they will simply more people that we must replace.
[size=150]The white farmers in South Africa taking up arms as they face the prospect of their land being forcibly taken back[/size]
2 minute Video at link
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-05-14/the-white-farmers-in-south-africa-taking-up-arms-as-they-face-the-prospect-of-their-land-being-forcibly-taken-back/
Those that can leave should. But those that can't should acquire guns and join militia groups if possible. Genocide is coming.
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The white farmers will lose an armed struggle. But, if they can't leave, what have they got to lose.
They CAN leave. However, they can only take a nominal amount of money with them. The SA racist government prohibits them taking large amounts of their crumbling currency off shore. South Africa will go the way of Zimbabwe.
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They CAN leave. However, they can only take a nominal amount of money with them. The SA racist government prohibits them taking large amounts of their crumbling currency off shore. South Africa will go the way of Zimbabwe.
Some of the wealthier ones are probably staying because they don't want to lose everything and are willing to gamble with their lives. Others probably want to leave even if it takes all their money away, but they have nowhere to go. So far only Aus has volunteered (good on you/them) but that's not a done deal yet.
Its disgusts me that all those countries that pressured white South Africa to yield power (rightfully, I must add) now are unwilling to help those they disenfranchised. Especially countries like the Netherlands, the original homeland of many of the Boers ancestors.
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Its disgusts me that all those countries that pressured white South Africa to yield power (rightfully, I must add) now are unwilling to help those they disenfranchised. Especially countries like the Netherlands, the original homeland of many of the Boers ancestors.
It dosgusts me too.
It wasn't their fault that their ancestors stole African land and subjugated its inhabitants. I agree it had to be returned to them, but anyone who failed to see what is unfolding before our eyes and turned their backs should be thoroughly ashamed.
Canada, Australia and Britain are clear destinations for White South Africans, as they are all Crown colonies.
NONE of these nations have put forth any REAL effort to import the White South Africans.
Why? Because they're White, and we're too busy importing floods of immigrants from third world shitholes anyhow.
Excuse me?
Have you NOT been paying attention. Australia IS making an effort.
But these nations are not "clear destinations". Boers are historically Dutch in origin, with some Germans. As both these governments were complicit in enforcing white rule, they should be the first to open their doors. Britain actually created the nation of South Africa, but don't hold your breath waiting for them to do their bit. They are busy importing muslims.
I know.
Britain IS the one that should be saying something, or doing something, but as you've stated... They are too concerned with flooding themselves with their new Muslim guests at the moment. Whitey just cramps their style.
And you should know the Dutch don't give a fuck, except Muslims, Tulips, being cheap, and loving their Government bullshit. They eat it up!
And as a straight white male of German descent, I know what the fucking answer is. Problem is, PC control shut us down. Hitler changed everything.
Ya, I know it was bad with the Jews. I know that. Now is the time for Germans to step up again, and do what the world didn't think even possible.
Deal with the fucking cretins. That will never happen though... not again I don't think.
"We will not be discouraged from fighting against whiteness and white privilege because they create unnecessary fear in South Africa," added Malema.[/quote]
Notice how he has adopted the same terminology liberals use all over campuses here in the US. Its good language for masking ones true motives.
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"We will not be discouraged from fighting against whiteness and white privilege because they create unnecessary fear in South Africa," added Malema.
Notice how he has adopted the same terminology liberals use all over campuses here in the US. Its good language for masking ones true motives.[/quote]
I notice it makes no sense as Caucasians are being stripped of fundamental rights..
Like South Africa's version of Nuremberg laws.
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"We will not be discouraged from fighting against whiteness and white privilege because they create unnecessary fear in South Africa," added Malema.
Notice how he has adopted the same terminology liberals use all over campuses here in the US. Its good language for masking ones true motives.
I notice it makes no sense as Caucasians are being stripped of fundamental rights..
Like South Africa's version of Nuremberg laws.[/quote]
Yes indeed black politicians singing kill the white people songs and their congress voting overwhelmingly that white land can be taken with absolutely no compensation is the stuff of genocide.
the originator of genocide watch says South Africa is in stage 6 of genocide. There are 10 steps altogether.
Now it seems Australia has flip flopped again and are NOT going to be fast tracking South Africans.
[size=150]Australian Senate hears SA farmers "will not receive" special visa treatment[/size]
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sa-farmers-refugee-visa-no-special-treatment/
Australia actually doesn't have the power to make decisions such as this, even though their people may think they do.
Canada in Decay sort of explained it, with the United Nations having huge power and control over all of its members. To belong to United Nations, means doing what they say. And United Nations does NOT agree with any member nation fast-tracking in Whites.
The European Union acts in a very similar fashion. Any member cannot just 'do what it wants.' It is dictated.
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Now it seems Australia has flip flopped again and are NOT going to be fast tracking South Africans.
Fake news, I suspect.
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Now it seems Australia has flip flopped again and are NOT going to be fast tracking South Africans.
Fake news, I suspect.
I hope so, for the sake of persecuted South African farmers.
White South African farmers have turned to a former Israeli special forces agent to train them in self-defense, according to local press.
After the South African parliament adopted a motion in February to potentially take land from white South African farmers and redistribute it to predominantly black workers without compensation, farmers have feared an increase in violence targeting their community. Idan Abolnik, a former soldier with the Israeli special forces, has offered his services to train farmers to protect themselves.
"It's open to everyone and anyone who wants a specially designed system for farmers," said Abolnik, who trains clients in the Israeli-developed Krav Maga fighting system, according to the website The South African citing TV channel News24. "We train them to deal with a variety of different attacks. We teach them hand-to-hand combat, bush warfare,semi-bush warfare, urban warfare and how to collect information."
The course involves training with weapons and hand-to-hand combat. Participants learn to deal with home invasions, violent assaults and even the threat of an execution. Abolnik teaches his students how to overpower and defeat attackers, which many now believe is a necessary skill.[/quote]
I would think the best answer is to leave. But if they can't or don't want to, arming one's self, training, forming militia type organizations is the second best answer. (I would suggest for those who can afford it-- razor wire fences, guard dogs, and a burglar alarm too)
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I would think the best answer is to leave. But if they can't or don't want to, arming one's self, training, forming militia type organizations is the second best answer. (I would suggest for those who can afford it-- razor wire fences, guard dogs, and a burglar alarm too)
It's not so easy for them to leave. First, Western Nations don't really want them because they're White. Secondly, I've heard South Africa itself is making it difficult for them to leave, even if they want to. Almost like South Africa itself truly knows that the entire place will go to shit if all the Whites left, which of course it will.
Defense training would certainly be appropriate in their current situation. Luckily, South Africa does permit them to pack heaters for self defense, so at least one has the ability to be armed there.
Good for them to have some basic skills, for when the shit really will hit the fan!
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White South African farmers have turned to a former Israeli special forces agent to train them in self-defense, according to local press.
After the South African parliament adopted a motion in February to potentially take land from white South African farmers and redistribute it to predominantly black workers without compensation, farmers have feared an increase in violence targeting their community. Idan Abolnik, a former soldier with the Israeli special forces, has offered his services to train farmers to protect themselves.
"It's open to everyone and anyone who wants a specially designed system for farmers," said Abolnik, who trains clients in the Israeli-developed Krav Maga fighting system, according to the website The South African citing TV channel News24. "We train them to deal with a variety of different attacks. We teach them hand-to-hand combat, bush warfare,semi-bush warfare, urban warfare and how to collect information."
The course involves training with weapons and hand-to-hand combat. Participants learn to deal with home invasions, violent assaults and even the threat of an execution. Abolnik teaches his students how to overpower and defeat attackers, which many now believe is a necessary skill.
I would think the best answer is to leave. But if they can't or don't want to, arming one's self, training, forming militia type organizations is the second best answer. (I would suggest for those who can afford it-- razor wire fences, guard dogs, and a burglar alarm too)[/quote]
The state has the police, the army and they hate whites. Krav Maga won't help them one fucking bit.
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White South African farmers have turned to a former Israeli special forces agent to train them in self-defense, according to local press.
After the South African parliament adopted a motion in February to potentially take land from white South African farmers and redistribute it to predominantly black workers without compensation, farmers have feared an increase in violence targeting their community. Idan Abolnik, a former soldier with the Israeli special forces, has offered his services to train farmers to protect themselves.
"It's open to everyone and anyone who wants a specially designed system for farmers," said Abolnik, who trains clients in the Israeli-developed Krav Maga fighting system, according to the website The South African citing TV channel News24. "We train them to deal with a variety of different attacks. We teach them hand-to-hand combat, bush warfare,semi-bush warfare, urban warfare and how to collect information."
The course involves training with weapons and hand-to-hand combat. Participants learn to deal with home invasions, violent assaults and even the threat of an execution. Abolnik teaches his students how to overpower and defeat attackers, which many now believe is a necessary skill.
I would think the best answer is to leave. But if they can't or don't want to, arming one's self, training, forming militia type organizations is the second best answer. (I would suggest for those who can afford it-- razor wire fences, guard dogs, and a burglar alarm too)[/quote]
That's really the only answer.
The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

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Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he's not going wage genocide against them. Yet.
In an interview with TRT World News published this week, Malema said, "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, "Crybabies. Crybabies," but later warned white South Africans that "the masses are on board" for "an un-led revolution and anarchy".
Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country's movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country's black population.
No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.
So even if someone thinks this land grab is social justice, it's at least reasonable to acknowledge the massive corruption that plagues South Africa's government.
And presuming that a multi-billion dollar expropriation wouldn't be fraught with graft is just plain naive.
There has also been zero acknowledgement that forced exprorpriation of private property would cause a wave of defaults on real estate mortgages, triggering a massive banking crisis and unforgiving recession.
South Africa already has a prime example about the economic consequences: Zimbabwe's own land expropriation plunged that country into an economic cataclysm spanning two decades.
Yet these all seem to be irrelevant details.
Malema even went so far as to downplay Zimbabwe's economic catastrophe, saying "You cannot [measure] the Zimbawean revolution based on the capitalist definition."
I'm not sure what Marxist definition he's using to measure success.
But we do know that two decades after land redistribution in Zimbabwe (which used to be considered the breadbasket of southern Africa), more than a quarter of the population is in danger of starving to death.
So even by the most basic metrics, Zimbabwe's policies have been a total failure. Copying them is tantamount to suicide.
It's truly astonishing that someone so dangerous and out of touch has been able to rise to power. And even more astonishing how quickly it's happened.
A decade ago few people had heard of Malema. Now he commands millions and grows more powerful each day.
Swift, radical changes like this are common around the world, and throughout history.
In 1913, just a few years before the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks were a tiny group of radicals. Four years later they had taken over the entire country.
In 1928, the Nazi party was an obscure joke, winning a mere 2.6% of the votes in the national election that year.
Not even five years later, Adolf Hitler was German chancellor and had been awarded supreme power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
Point is, the world can change very quickly.
Of course this will happen anywhere Whites become the minority.
Europe is heading in the same direction, with Islam due to becoming the lead force there. It doesn't take much imagination to predict what the outcome of that will be.
When White people 'lose their way' and allow another entity to take over, the outcome is not favourable to the host nation.
Ironically, straight white males will be the ones best able to fit in with the ideals of Islam. Women, Gays, Leftards, etc... the groups that actually push hardest for the flood of Islam into Europe, are actually the very ones that Islam despises the most. It is quite curious that they fail to see this, but they will feel it the hardest in time!
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The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

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Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he's not going wage genocide against them. Yet.
In an interview with TRT World News published this week, Malema said, "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, "Crybabies. Crybabies," but later warned white South Africans that "the masses are on board" for "an un-led revolution and anarchy".
Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country's movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country's black population.
No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.
So even if someone thinks this land grab is social justice, it's at least reasonable to acknowledge the massive corruption that plagues South Africa's government.
And presuming that a multi-billion dollar expropriation wouldn't be fraught with graft is just plain naive.
There has also been zero acknowledgement that forced exprorpriation of private property would cause a wave of defaults on real estate mortgages, triggering a massive banking crisis and unforgiving recession.
South Africa already has a prime example about the economic consequences: Zimbabwe's own land expropriation plunged that country into an economic cataclysm spanning two decades.
Yet these all seem to be irrelevant details.
Malema even went so far as to downplay Zimbabwe's economic catastrophe, saying "You cannot [measure] the Zimbawean revolution based on the capitalist definition."
I'm not sure what Marxist definition he's using to measure success.
But we do know that two decades after land redistribution in Zimbabwe (which used to be considered the breadbasket of southern Africa), more than a quarter of the population is in danger of starving to death.
So even by the most basic metrics, Zimbabwe's policies have been a total failure. Copying them is tantamount to suicide.
It's truly astonishing that someone so dangerous and out of touch has been able to rise to power. And even more astonishing how quickly it's happened.
A decade ago few people had heard of Malema. Now he commands millions and grows more powerful each day.
Swift, radical changes like this are common around the world, and throughout history.
In 1913, just a few years before the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks were a tiny group of radicals. Four years later they had taken over the entire country.
In 1928, the Nazi party was an obscure joke, winning a mere 2.6% of the votes in the national election that year.
Not even five years later, Adolf Hitler was German chancellor and had been awarded supreme power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
Point is, the world can change very quickly.
He only wants to persecute whites, so no problem.
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The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

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Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he's not going wage genocide against them. Yet.
In an interview with TRT World News published this week, Malema said, "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, "Crybabies. Crybabies," but later warned white South Africans that "the masses are on board" for "an un-led revolution and anarchy".
Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country's movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country's black population.
No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.
So even if someone thinks this land grab is social justice, it's at least reasonable to acknowledge the massive corruption that plagues South Africa's government.
And presuming that a multi-billion dollar expropriation wouldn't be fraught with graft is just plain naive.
There has also been zero acknowledgement that forced exprorpriation of private property would cause a wave of defaults on real estate mortgages, triggering a massive banking crisis and unforgiving recession.
South Africa already has a prime example about the economic consequences: Zimbabwe's own land expropriation plunged that country into an economic cataclysm spanning two decades.
Yet these all seem to be irrelevant details.
Malema even went so far as to downplay Zimbabwe's economic catastrophe, saying "You cannot [measure] the Zimbawean revolution based on the capitalist definition."
I'm not sure what Marxist definition he's using to measure success.
But we do know that two decades after land redistribution in Zimbabwe (which used to be considered the breadbasket of southern Africa), more than a quarter of the population is in danger of starving to death.
So even by the most basic metrics, Zimbabwe's policies have been a total failure. Copying them is tantamount to suicide.
It's truly astonishing that someone so dangerous and out of touch has been able to rise to power. And even more astonishing how quickly it's happened.
A decade ago few people had heard of Malema. Now he commands millions and grows more powerful each day.
Swift, radical changes like this are common around the world, and throughout history.
In 1913, just a few years before the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks were a tiny group of radicals. Four years later they had taken over the entire country.
In 1928, the Nazi party was an obscure joke, winning a mere 2.6% of the votes in the national election that year.
Not even five years later, Adolf Hitler was German chancellor and had been awarded supreme power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
Point is, the world can change very quickly.
He only wants to persecute whites, so no problem.
Exactly right and even though proof is not needed here is more proof.
http://www.africanews.com/2018/06/21/south-africa-julius-malema-under-fire-for-alleged-racist-comments/
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The South Africa Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) say they are set to investigate leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters EFF Julius Malema over what has been termed by some to be openly racists comments against Indian South Africans.
The former ANC youth league leader is under fire after remarks he made at the weekend claiming Indians were racists towards black South Africans, and their communities in South Africa treated blacks as subhumans, even underpaying them for work done.
That's where Malema messed up, he can talk about "cutting the throat of whiteness" taking land away from whites with no compensation and alluding to wanting kill off whites in SA all he wants. BUT he said something negative about indians so NOW he is in trouble.
Oh, what a wacky world.
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The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

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Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he's not going wage genocide against them. Yet.
In an interview with TRT World News published this week, Malema said, "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, "Crybabies. Crybabies," but later warned white South Africans that "the masses are on board" for "an un-led revolution and anarchy".
Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country's movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country's black population.
No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.
So even if someone thinks this land grab is social justice, it's at least reasonable to acknowledge the massive corruption that plagues South Africa's government.
And presuming that a multi-billion dollar expropriation wouldn't be fraught with graft is just plain naive.
There has also been zero acknowledgement that forced exprorpriation of private property would cause a wave of defaults on real estate mortgages, triggering a massive banking crisis and unforgiving recession.
South Africa already has a prime example about the economic consequences: Zimbabwe's own land expropriation plunged that country into an economic cataclysm spanning two decades.
Yet these all seem to be irrelevant details.
Malema even went so far as to downplay Zimbabwe's economic catastrophe, saying "You cannot [measure] the Zimbawean revolution based on the capitalist definition."
I'm not sure what Marxist definition he's using to measure success.
But we do know that two decades after land redistribution in Zimbabwe (which used to be considered the breadbasket of southern Africa), more than a quarter of the population is in danger of starving to death.
So even by the most basic metrics, Zimbabwe's policies have been a total failure. Copying them is tantamount to suicide.
It's truly astonishing that someone so dangerous and out of touch has been able to rise to power. And even more astonishing how quickly it's happened.
A decade ago few people had heard of Malema. Now he commands millions and grows more powerful each day.
Swift, radical changes like this are common around the world, and throughout history.
In 1913, just a few years before the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks were a tiny group of radicals. Four years later they had taken over the entire country.
In 1928, the Nazi party was an obscure joke, winning a mere 2.6% of the votes in the national election that year.
Not even five years later, Adolf Hitler was German chancellor and had been awarded supreme power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
Point is, the world can change very quickly.
He only wants to persecute whites, so no problem.
Exactly right and even though proof is not needed here is more proof.
http://www.africanews.com/2018/06/21/south-africa-julius-malema-under-fire-for-alleged-racist-comments/
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The South Africa Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) say they are set to investigate leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters EFF Julius Malema over what has been termed by some to be openly racists comments against Indian South Africans.
The former ANC youth league leader is under fire after remarks he made at the weekend claiming Indians were racists towards black South Africans, and their communities in South Africa treated blacks as subhumans, even underpaying them for work done.
That's where Malema messed up, he can talk about "cutting the throat of whiteness" taking land away from whites with no compensation and alluding to wanting kill off whites in SA all he wants. BUT he said something negative about indians so NOW he is in trouble.
Oh, what a wacky world.
Wacky indeed.
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Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

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Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he's not going wage genocide against them. Yet.
In an interview with TRT World News published this week, Malema said, "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, "Crybabies. Crybabies," but later warned white South Africans that "the masses are on board" for "an un-led revolution and anarchy".
Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country's movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country's black population.
No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.
So even if someone thinks this land grab is social justice, it's at least reasonable to acknowledge the massive corruption that plagues South Africa's government.
And presuming that a multi-billion dollar expropriation wouldn't be fraught with graft is just plain naive.
There has also been zero acknowledgement that forced exprorpriation of private property would cause a wave of defaults on real estate mortgages, triggering a massive banking crisis and unforgiving recession.
South Africa already has a prime example about the economic consequences: Zimbabwe's own land expropriation plunged that country into an economic cataclysm spanning two decades.
Yet these all seem to be irrelevant details.
Malema even went so far as to downplay Zimbabwe's economic catastrophe, saying "You cannot [measure] the Zimbawean revolution based on the capitalist definition."
I'm not sure what Marxist definition he's using to measure success.
But we do know that two decades after land redistribution in Zimbabwe (which used to be considered the breadbasket of southern Africa), more than a quarter of the population is in danger of starving to death.
So even by the most basic metrics, Zimbabwe's policies have been a total failure. Copying them is tantamount to suicide.
It's truly astonishing that someone so dangerous and out of touch has been able to rise to power. And even more astonishing how quickly it's happened.
A decade ago few people had heard of Malema. Now he commands millions and grows more powerful each day.
Swift, radical changes like this are common around the world, and throughout history.
In 1913, just a few years before the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks were a tiny group of radicals. Four years later they had taken over the entire country.
In 1928, the Nazi party was an obscure joke, winning a mere 2.6% of the votes in the national election that year.
Not even five years later, Adolf Hitler was German chancellor and had been awarded supreme power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
Point is, the world can change very quickly.
He only wants to persecute whites, so no problem.
Exactly right and even though proof is not needed here is more proof.
http://www.africanews.com/2018/06/21/south-africa-julius-malema-under-fire-for-alleged-racist-comments/
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The South Africa Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) say they are set to investigate leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters EFF Julius Malema over what has been termed by some to be openly racists comments against Indian South Africans.
The former ANC youth league leader is under fire after remarks he made at the weekend claiming Indians were racists towards black South Africans, and their communities in South Africa treated blacks as subhumans, even underpaying them for work done.
That's where Malema messed up, he can talk about "cutting the throat of whiteness" taking land away from whites with no compensation and alluding to wanting kill off whites in SA all he wants. BUT he said something negative about indians so NOW he is in trouble.
Oh, what a wacky world.
Persecuting any people because of their race is wrong Julius Malema.
[size=150]Julius Malema calls critical black reporters "house n****rs"[/size]
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/julius-malema-comments-black-journalists/
Not a particularly important story, but the reason I put it up is I find it interesting that so often malema invokes American Political Correctness terminology. Just like when eh said "cut the throat of WHITENESS" Whiteness is a term college professors often use to say (pretend) they aren't against white people but rather racial hierarchies.
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What would happen to the white shaming movement in the USA if it was proven without any doubt that privilege is not based on skin colour?
Would they just say sorry and throw in the towel?
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What would happen to the white shaming movement in the USA if it was proven without any doubt that privilege is not based on skin colour?
Would they just say sorry and throw in the towel?
They will never throw in the towel, these people are zealots impervious to reason. the only answer is to persuade rational people of what is going on, and then work within the law to defeat the people doing this whenever possible. Like making them take down white privilege posters, taking them to court over affirmative action admissions policies etc. and of course not giving in to intimidation which is their primary weapon.
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
What would happen to the white shaming movement in the USA if it was proven without any doubt that privilege is not based on skin colour?
Would they just say sorry and throw in the towel?
Did the climate alarmists give up when they were caught with their thumb on the scale? They doubled down on extremism and so will the white hate movement.
Malema tweets Farakkhan video calling for racial violence, says "Amen"
https://twitter.com/Julius_S_Malema/status/1016032858199199746/video/1