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Around 1250 A.D., historical records show, ice packs began showing up farther south in the North Atlantic. Glaciers also began expanding on Greenland, soon to threaten Norse settlements on the island. From 1275 to 1300 A.D., glaciers began expanding more broadly, according to radiocarbon dating of plants killed by the glacier growth. The period known today as the Little Ice Age was just starting to poke through.
Summers began cooling in Northern Europe after 1300 A.D., negatively impacting growing seasons, as reflected in the Great Famine of 1315 to 1317. Expanding glaciers and ice cover spreading across Greenland began driving the Norse settlers out. The last, surviving, written records of the Norse Greenland settlements, which had persisted for centuries, concern a marriage in 1408 A.D. in the church of Hvalsey, today the best preserved Norse ruin.
Colder winters began regularly freezing rivers and canals in Great Britain, the Netherlands and Northern France, with both the Thames in London and the Seine in Paris frozen solid annually. The first River Thames Frost Fair was held in 1607. In 1607-1608, early European settlers in North America reported ice persisting on Lake Superior until June. In January, 1658, a Swedish army marched across the ice to invade Copenhagen. By the end of the 17th century, famines had spread from northern France, across Norway and Sweden, to Finland and Estonia.
Reflecting its global scope, evidence of the Little Ice Age appears in the Southern Hemisphere as well. Sediment cores from Lake Malawi in southern Africa show colder weather from 1570 to 1820. A 3,000 year temperature reconstruction based on varying rates of stalagmite growth in a cave in South Africa also indicates a colder period from 1500 to 1800. A 1997 study comparing West Antarctic ice cores with the results of the Greenland Ice Sheet Project Two (GISP2) indicate a global Little Ice Age affecting the two ice sheets in tandem.
The Siple Dome, an ice dome roughly 100 km long and 100 km wide, about 100 km east of the Siple Coast of Antartica, also reflects effects of the Little Ice Age synchronously with the GISP2 record, as do sediment cores from the Bransfield Basin of the Antarctic Peninsula. Oxygen/isotope analysis from the Pacific Islands indicates a 1.5 degree Celsius temperature decline between 1270 and 1475 A.D.
The Franz Josef glacier on the west side of the Southern Alps of New Zealand advanced sharply during the period of the Little Ice Age, actually invading a rain forest at its maximum extent in the early 1700s. The Mueller glacier on the east side of New Zealand's Southern Alps expanded to its maximum extent at roughly the same time.
Ice cores from the Andeas mountains in South America show a colder period from 1600 to 1800. Tree ring data from Patagonia in South America show cold periods from 1270 to 1380 and from 1520 to 1670. Spanish explorers noted the expansion of the San Rafael Glacier in Chile from 1675 to 1766, which continued into the 19th century.
The height of the Little Ice Age is generally dated as 1650 to 1850 A.D. The American Revolutionary Army under General George Washington shivered at Valley Forge in the winter of 1777-78, and New York harbor was frozen in the winter of 1780. Historic snowstorms struck Lisbon, Portugal in 1665, 1744 and 1886. Glaciers in Glacier National Park in Montana advanced until the late 18th or early 19th centuries. The last River Thames Frost Fair was held in 1814. The Little Ice Age phased out during the middle to late 19th century.
The Little Ice Age, following the historically warm temperatures of the Medieval Warm Period, which lasted from about AD 950 to 1250, has been attributed to natural cycles in solar activity, particularly sunspots. A period of sharply lower sunspot activity known as the Wolf Minimum began in 1280 and persisted for 70 years until 1350. That was followed by a period of even lower sunspot activity that lasted 90 years from 1460 to 1550 known as the Sporer Minimum. During the period 1645 to 1715, the low point of the Little Ice Age, the number of sunspots declined to zero for the entire time. This is known as the Maunder Minimum, named after English astronomer Walter Maunder. That was followed by the Dalton Minimum from 1790 to 1830, another period of well below normal sunspot activity.
The increase in global temperatures since the late 19th century just reflects the end of the Little Ice Age. The global temperature trends since then have followed not rising CO2 trends but the ocean temperature cycles of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO). Every 20 to 30 years, the much colder water near the bottom of the oceans cycles up to the top, where it has a slight cooling effect on global temperatures until the sun warms that water. That warmed water then contributes to slightly warmer global temperatures, until the next churning cycle.
Those ocean temperature cycles, and the continued recovery from the Little Ice Age, are primarily why global temperatures rose from 1915 until 1945, when CO2 emissions were much lower than in recent years. The change to a cold ocean temperature cycle, primarily the PDO, is the main reason that global temperatures declined from 1945 until the late 1970s, despite the soaring CO2 emissions during that time from the postwar industrialization spreading across the globe.
The 20 to 30 year ocean temperature cycles turned back to warm from the late 1970s until the late 1990s, which is the primary reason that global temperatures warmed during this period. But that warming ended 15 years ago, and global temperatures have stopped increasing since then, if not actually cooled, even though global CO2 emissions have soared over this period. As The Economist magazine reported in March, "The world added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010. That is about a quarter of all the CO2 put there by humanity since 1750." Yet, still no warming during that time. That is because the CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes.
At first the current stall out of global warming was due to the ocean cycles turning back to cold. But something much more ominous has developed over this period. Sunspots run in 11 year short term cycles, with longer cyclical trends of 90 and even 200 years. The number of sunspots declined substantially in the last 11 year cycle, after flattening out over the previous 20 years. But in the current cycle, sunspot activity has collapsed. NASA's Science News report for January 8, 2013 states,
"Indeed, the sun could be on the threshold of a mini-Maunder event right now. Ongoing Solar Cycle 24 [the current short term 11 year cycle] is the weakest in more than 50 years. Moreover, there is (controversial) evidence of a long-term weakening trend in the magnetic field strength of sunspots. Matt Penn and William Livingston of the National Solar Observatory predict that by the time Solar Cycle 25 arrives, magnetic fields on the sun will be so weak that few if any sunspots will be formed. Independent lines of research involving helioseismology and surface polar fields tend to support their conclusion."
That is even more significant because NASA's climate science has been controlled for years by global warming hysteric James Hansen, who recently announced his retirement.But this same concern is increasingly being echoed worldwide. The Voice of Russia reported on April 22, 2013,
"Global warming which has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, may give way to global cooling. According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is waning, so the average yearly temperature will begin to decline as well. Scientists from Britain and the US chime in saying that forecasts for global cooling are far from groundless."
That report quoted Yuri Nagovitsyn of the Pulkovo Observatory saying, "Evidently, solar activity is on the decrease. The 11-year cycle doesn't bring about considerable climate change – only 1-2%. The impact of the 200-year cycle is greater – up to 50%. In this respect, we could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years." In other words, another Little Ice Age.
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The German Herald reported on March 31, 2013,
"German meteorologists say that the start of 2013 is now the coldest in 208 years – and now German media has quoted Russian scientist Dr Habibullo Abdussamatov from the St. Petersburg Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory [saying this] is proof as he said earlier that we are heading for a "Mini Ice Age." Talking to German media the scientist who first made his prediction in 2005 said that after studying sunspots and their relationship with climate change on Earth, we are now on an 'unavoidable advance towards a deep temperature drop.'"
Faith in Global Warming is collapsing in formerly staunch Europe following increasingly severe winters which have now started continuing into spring. Christopher Booker explained in The Sunday Telegraph on April 27, 2013,
Here in Britain, where we had our fifth freezing winter in a row, the Central England Temperature record – according to an expert analysis on the US science blog Watts Up With That – shows that in this century, average winter temperatures have dropped by 1.45C, more than twice as much as their rise between 1850 and 1999, and twice as much as the entire net rise in global temperatures recorded in the 20th century."
A news report from India (The Hindu April 22, 2013) stated, "March in Russia saw the harshest frosts in 50 years, with temperatures dropping to –25° Celsius in central parts of the country and –45° in the north. It was the coldest spring month in Moscow in half a century....Weathermen say spring is a full month behind schedule in Russia." The news report summarized,
"Russia is famous for its biting frosts but this year, abnormally icy weather also hit much of Europe, the United States, China and India. Record snowfalls brought Kiev, capital of Ukraine, to a standstill for several days in late March, closed roads across many parts of Britain, buried thousands of sheep beneath six-metre deep snowdrifts in Northern Ireland, and left more than 1,000,000 homes without electricity in Poland. British authorities said March was the second coldest in its records dating back to 1910. China experienced the severest winter weather in 30 years and New Delhi in January recorded the lowest temperature in 44 years."
Booker adds, "Last week it was reported that 3,318 places in the USA had recorded their lowest temperatures for this time of year since records began. Similar record cold was experienced by places in every province of Canada. So cold has the Russian winter been that Moscow had its deepest snowfall in 134 years of observations."
Britain's Met Office, an international cheerleading headquarters for global warming hysteria, did concede last December that there would be no further warming at least through 2017, which would make 20 years with no global warming. That reflects grudging recognition of the newly developing trends. But that reflects as well growing divergence between the reality of real world temperatures and the projections of the climate models at the foundation of the global warming alarmism of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Since those models have never been validated, they are not science at this point, but just made up fantasies. That is why, "In the 12 years to 2011, 11 out of 12 [global temperature]forecasts [of the Met Office] were too high — and... none were colder than [resulted]," as BBC climate correspondent Paul Hudson wrote in January.
Global warming was never going to be the problem that the Lysenkoists who have brought down western science made it out to be. Human emissions of CO2 are only 4 to 5% of total global emissions, counting natural causes. Much was made of the total atmospheric concentration of CO2 exceeding 400 parts per million. But if you asked the daffy NBC correspondent who hysterically reported on that what portion of the atmosphere 400 parts per million is, she transparently wouldn't be able to tell you. One percent of the atmosphere would be 10,000 parts per million. The atmospheric concentrations of CO2 deep in the geologic past were much, much greater than today, yet life survived, and we have no record of any of the catastrophes the hysterics have claimed. Maybe that is because the temperature impact of increased concentrations of CO2 declines logarithmically. That means there is a natural limit to how much increased CO2 can effectively warm the planet, which would be well before any of the supposed climate catastrophes the warming hysterics have tried to use to shut down capitalist prosperity.
Yet, just last week, there was Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson telling us, by way of attempting to tutor Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), Chairman of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, "For the record, and for the umpteenth time, there is no 'great amount of uncertainty' about whether the planet is warming and why." If you can read, and you have gotten this far in my column, you know why Robinson's ignorance is just another Washington Post abuse of the First Amendment. Mr. Robinson, let me introduce you to the British Met Office, stalwart of Global Warming "science," such as it is, which has already publicly confessed that we are already three quarters through 20 years of No Global Warming!
Booker could have been writing about Robinson when he concluded his Sunday Telegraph commentary by writing, "Has there ever in history been such an almighty disconnect between observable reality and the delusions of a political class that is quite impervious to any rational discussion?"
But there is a fundamental problem with the temperature records from this contentious period, when climate science crashed into political science. The land based records, which have been under the control of global warming alarmists at the British Met Office and the Hadley Centre Climate Research Unit, and at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in the U.S., show much more warming during this period than the incorruptible satellite atmosphere temperature records. Those satellite records have been further confirmed by atmospheric weather balloons. But the land based records can be subject to tampering and falsification.
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your preaching to the choir here baby.....it is astounding that these intelligentsia and media prudes march boldly along this global warming/climate change path oblivious to the realities around then daily....they experience temperature and weather daily they can actually touch, observe and record....and yet they still blindly refuse to accept the falseness of their claims......to an extent it certainly reflects their actions in previous environmental causes like the DDT ban, pipelines, seatbelts, bike helmets, gun control...and on and on........for the life of me i cannot understand why the politicians are so afraid of these nuts
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your preaching to the choir here baby.....it is astounding that these intelligentsia and media prudes march boldly along this global warming/climate change path oblivious to the realities around then daily....they experience temperature and weather daily they can actually touch, observe and record....and yet they still blindly refuse to accept the falseness of their claims......to an extent it certainly reflects their actions in previous environmental causes like the DDT ban, pipelines, seatbelts, bike helmets, gun control...and on and on........for the life of me i cannot understand why the politicians are so afraid of these nuts
The answer of course is money and influence. Those disingenuous bastards have endless supplies of both.
I always thought it was a hoax to get us pay more for stuff.
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I always thought it was a hoax to get us pay more for stuff.
It is the biggest faux emergency I have ever seen in my life.
The greenies even took away our normal lightbulps... They were cheaper than these energy conserving lamps.
It takes more energy to make one.
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The greenies even took away our normal lightbulps... They were cheaper than these energy conserving lamps.
It takes more energy to make one.
We use those energy efficient bulbs in our house too. Way more expensive.
It´s a new international standard. They don´t sell the old ones anymore.
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It´s a new international standard. They don´t sell the old ones anymore.
You can still buy them here.
Yea...
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It´s a new international standard. They don´t sell the old ones anymore.
You can still buy them here.
Stock up on them because these green idiots aren't going away.
They have invested too much time, effort and above all money in pushing their agenda. It's ironic because most of these green technologies they promote are too cost prohibitive without the help of tax subsidies and rebate credits. At best many are impractical to implement or as in some cases, they flat out don't work.
Unfortunately the people pushing these green energy measures and technologies have legions of useful idiots that cannot see reality. They don't actually get it that most of this green stuff that they so devotedly believe in only benefits a privileged few who are making millions off of the climate change fiasco. Furthermore and disturbingly so, these are the same morons who condemn banks and corporation for doing the exact same type of thing. Its leftwing hypocrisy at it's disgusting best and it's little more than a circus. :x
There has been no global cooling. The world is still warming.

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The actual data shows the world is indeed warming.
Oh yeah, I forgot that many of the green-lamps are dead already when you buy them.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that many of the green-lamps are dead already when you buy them.
Many like the ones made in China are actually dangerous because the ballests catch fire.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that many of the green-lamps are dead already when you buy them.
Many like the ones made in China are actually dangerous because the ballests catch fire.
I´ve heard of that one.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that many of the green-lamps are dead already when you buy them.
Many like the ones made in China are actually dangerous because the ballests catch fire.
I´ve heard of that one.
Also the cheap no-name Chinese made fluorescent pigtails don't last nearly as long as your greenie beanie idiots claim they do. Many only have about half the lifespan that the comparable much more expensive versions from companies like Phillips or GE do.
Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?
Airam, Philips and Osram.
Those are the only three brands provided by suppliers. Working well, considering... Sylvania suck though.
Chinese crap can be found in the back alley of a slum. They are not passing the inspections.
Airam is finnish and not that well known.
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Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?
If I read an article I generally read all of it. Am I interested(worried) about AGW? Gawd no, but then again the Al Gore's David Suzuki's and James Hansen's of the world don't live like they care about it either. CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes. It's just another faux emergency to separate gullible Westerners from their cash.
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There has been no global cooling. The world is still warming.
The actual data shows the world is indeed warming.
Actually those records are misleading. They are land based records whichshow much more warming during this period than the incorruptible satellite atmosphere temperature records. Those satellite records have been further confirmed by atmospheric weather balloons. But the land based records can be subject to tampering and falsification.

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Gavin Schmidt at GISS and James Hansen are dishonest. Hansen's official data records are partly based on large areas of the world which have no weather stations.
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Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?
If I read an article I generally read all of it. Am I interested(worried) about AGW? Gawd no, but then again the Al Gore's David Suzuki's and James Hansen's of the world don't live like they care about it either. CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes. It's just another faux emergency to separate gullible Westerners from their cash.
A lot of that going on.
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There has been no global cooling. The world is still warming.
The actual data shows the world is indeed warming.
Actually those records are misleading. They are land based records whichshow much more warming during this period than the incorruptible satellite atmosphere temperature records. Those satellite records have been further confirmed by atmospheric weather balloons. But the land based records can be subject to tampering and falsification.
The actual records are "misleading" and "subject to tampering and falsification", but the non-existent global cooling records are correct? What kind of logic is that? There is no data showing the world is cooling. How can no data be true yet the actual data be misleading and false?
Whenever you've checked out the recorded temperatures wherever you are or anywhere else, do you really believe they've been misleading and false? I doubt it. As North America is currently experiencing a record-breaking heatwave, do you really believe it's not happening?
The stratosphere has been cooling, but that's just one part of the atmosphere that hasn't been warming and it can be explained.
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In contrast to the warming trends observed by satellites and weather balloons in the troposphere, both types of measurement have recorded a marked cooling trend in the stratosphere. Though this might seem strange, a cooling stratosphere is actually consistent with what scientists expect from global warming caused by increased greenhouse gas levels. Stratospheric temperature depends partly on the amount of energy it receives from the troposphere below it. Human activities are emitting greenhouse gases, trapping more heat energy in the lower atmosphere, causing the stratosphere to cool down while the troposphere warms up. Ozone depletion, caused by human emissions of chlorofluorocarbon (CFC) gases has also played a part.
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Funny how you refuse to believe all the data except for the one bit of data that says one part of the atmosphere is cooling. All the data is misleading and false, but the stratosphere is cooling so the world must be cooling! Well, the temperature of the stratosphere has little to do with the temperature in the troposphere, on land and in the water. There's absolutely no evidence that land, water and troposphere records have been tampered with and falsified.
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^What the heck is this?
All the data shows that we are 3/4 of the way through 2 decades now of no global warming, but hey Schmidt and Hansen still cherry-pick data to show otherwise. Contrary to those two political hacks "science" , global temperatures have morphed over the last 30 years from a warming trend to a cooling trend despite the huge increase in CO2 levels.

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OVER the past 15 years air temperatures at the Earth's surface have been flat while greenhouse-gas emissions have continued to soar. The world added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010. That is about a quarter of all the CO? put there by humanity since 1750. And yet, the five-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade.
Even if you don`t believe the world could be heading back into a period of global cooling as we had less than 5 decades ago you can`t seriously still believe that the world is warming up dangerously and man is causing it. :lol:
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What the heck is this?
It reflects how GISS wants us to see data. It starts with raw daily/monthly and ends with what they want us to see. Sad if not criminal really
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Shen, Do you REALLY read everything on those articals? And are you REALLY interested in this stuff?
If I read an article I generally read all of it. Am I interested(worried) about AGW? Gawd no, but then again the Al Gore's David Suzuki's and James Hansen's of the world don't live like they care about it either. CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes. It's just another faux emergency to separate gullible Westerners from their cash.
A lot of that going on.
I remember a decade ago it was hard to find anyone that didn't believe that the world was getting dangerously warm and man was responsible. Despite the so-called "settled science" we have the following:
1. There has been no significant warming observed in the last 15 years — in spite of a rapid increase in the atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide?
2. The tropical atmosphere has shown no warming between 1979 and 2000 (ignoring the 1-yr long temperature spike of 1998, caused by a Super-El-Nino), and then again between 2002 and 2012-while models predict that the atmosphere should warm faster than the surface?
3. The Antarctic has been cooling, with Antarctic sea ice growing steadily–while models predict a global warming with most of the effects at high latitudes?
4. There is a striking difference in observed temperature trends between Northern and Southern hemispheres, not exhibited by climate models?
5. There is also a striking disparity between observed and modeled latitude dependence of clouds and of precipitation.
6. What caused the observed strong warming between 1910 and 1940? It is unlikely to be anthropogenic, since the level of greenhouse gases was quite low before World War-II.
7. Can current climate models account for the observed Multi-decadal Oscillations of the Pacific and Atlantic oceans?
8. Why the existence of the so called Little Ice Age, between about 1400 and 1800 AD, and the apparent coincidence of extreme cold with low sunspot numbers?
A quick word about carbon dioxide: It is an odorless, non-toxic natural constituent of the Earth's atmosphere. As the basic food for all plants, it is absolutely essential for maintaining life on our planet. CO2 should not be called a "pollutant." In the geological past, its level has been ten times or more higher than its present value; in fact, our major food crops developed when CO2 levels were about five times higher. China is now the world's largest emitter of CO2 and thereby making an important contribution to increasing agricultural yields at a time when much of the global population is still hungry. The world should be grateful to China.
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"Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago, Says Met Office Report Quietly Released."
It hits all the right notes: Global warming is a myth; and 'they' know it's a myth.
The article, in the London tabloid Daily Mail, goes on to state: "The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week. The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures."
It is said that there is nothing new under the Sun, and the denialist argument that there has been no warming since 1997 or 1998 is an oft-repeated one.
Climate scientists note that while the underlying long-term trend is unmistakable, it can be masked by short-term natural variations. And 1998 was an exceptionally hot year (In fact, it currently occupies the bronze medal position, behind 2005 and the race-leading 2010.) Move the starting point to 1999, and the picture changes considerably.

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As can be seen, at first glance, the years seem to follow no discernible order: 2010, 2005, 1998, 2003, 2006. But the decades are color-coded, which shows that the vast majority of the hottest years are in this century, followed by the 1990s etc. As the Met Office pointed out in December 2009, "the first decade of this century has been, by far, the warmest decade on the instrumental record."
The farther back in the instrument record one goes, the clearer the trend.
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There is so much inaccurate information surrounding the climate debate. It's mostly by those who say man is warming the planet at a dangerous rate but Richard Lindzen does it too. However, climatic warming is on pause which means most of the global warming climate models which showed rapid warming were dead wrong.
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DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream.
In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity - the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels - would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded.
Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.
For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it's good news that probably won't last.
International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years "at least" to break the long-term warming trend.
But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.
Research by Ed Hawkins of University of Reading shows surface temperatures since 2005 are already at the low end of the range projections derived from 20 climate models and if they remain flat, they will fall outside the models' range within a few years.
"The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations," says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.
"If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change," he says.
Whitehouse argues that whatever has happened to make temperatures remain constant requires an explanation because the pause in temperature rise has occurred despite a sharp increase in global carbon emissions.
The Economist says the world has added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010, about one-quarter of all the carbon dioxide put there by humans since 1750. This mismatch between rising greenhouse gas emissions and not-rising temperatures is among the biggest puzzles in climate science just now, The Economist article says.
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The year 2012 was a terrible time for the planet, according to a new report released by the American Meteorological Society this week.
Edited by scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the 2012 State of the Climate report revealed that Arctic sea ice reached a record low, while sea levels and greenhouse gases from fossil fuel burning hit all-time highs last year.
2012 was also one of the top 10 warmest years on record globally, according to the report, which received input from hundreds of climate experts from more than 50 countries. The United States and Argentina specifically experienced their hottest years ever.
"The findings are striking," said Kathryn Sullivan, acting administrator of the NOAA, according to the Agence France-Presse. "Our planet as a whole is becoming a warmer place."
Sullivan told the Associated Press the report reveals "remarkable changes in key climate indicators," including the dramatic melting of Arctic and Greenland ice.
The report also pointed out that sea levels reached a record high last year, with sea surface temperatures climbing significantly.
//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/record-arctic-ice-melt_n_3715226.html
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The year 2012 was a terrible time for the planet, according to a new report released by the American Meteorological Society this week.
Edited by scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the 2012 State of the Climate report revealed that Arctic sea ice reached a record low, while sea levels and greenhouse gases from fossil fuel burning hit all-time highs last year.
2012 was also one of the top 10 warmest years on record globally, according to the report, which received input from hundreds of climate experts from more than 50 countries. The United States and Argentina specifically experienced their hottest years ever.
"The findings are striking," said Kathryn Sullivan, acting administrator of the NOAA, according to the Agence France-Presse. "Our planet as a whole is becoming a warmer place."
Sullivan told the Associated Press the report reveals "remarkable changes in key climate indicators," including the dramatic melting of Arctic and Greenland ice.
The report also pointed out that sea levels reached a record high last year, with sea surface temperatures climbing significantly.
//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/record-arctic-ice-melt_n_3715226.html
Is the NOAA still inflating their sunspot count by counting specks?
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Record Cold weather in 2012 kills more than 220 in Europe; Danube freezes over; France set to break power consumption records.
KIEV — Temperatures fell to record lows across Europe as a week-long cold snap continues, claiming more than 220 lives with forecasters warned that the big freeze would tighten its grip at the weekend.
In the southwest Czech Republic, mercury fell to as low as minus 38.1 degrees Celsius overnight and even Rome received a rare dusting of snow.
In the last seven days, a total of 222 people have died from the cold weather, according to an AFP tally.
Ukraine's emergencies ministry raised the death toll substantially from a previous 63 to 101, of whom 64 died on the streets.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03/cold-weather-kills-more-than-220-in-europe-danube-freezes-over-france-set-to-break-power-consumption-records/
Sorry, I won't be consuming less and paying more to make more money for scumbag billionaires and governments despite how much misleading "data" they try and scare us with.
They say here that our climate is getting cooler.
Winters cooler than in thousands of years.
We were installing some equiptment in the wilderness back in 2010-2011 and it was the coldest winter in a 1000 years.
Had to shovel some snow around our tent to keep us warm.
That was a shitty job but I we got extra.
I´m not complaining but it was kinda hilarious.
We laugh when things get shitty. And then we solve the problem.
When my nazi ass wants some kids, I get 3 coloured babies.
When I go to install some equiptment, I get a winter colder than in a 1000 years.
I think that is pretty funny.
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They say here that our climate is getting cooler.
Winters cooler than in thousands of years.
We were installing some equiptment in the wilderness back in 2010-2011 and it was the coldest winter in a 1000 years.
Had to shovel some snow around our tent to keep us warm.
That was a shitty job but I we got extra.
I don't know about Finland in particular, but many places in Europe broke records for cold in 2012.
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They say here that our climate is getting cooler.
Winters cooler than in thousands of years.
We were installing some equiptment in the wilderness back in 2010-2011 and it was the coldest winter in a 1000 years.
Had to shovel some snow around our tent to keep us warm.
That was a shitty job but I we got extra.
I don't know about Finland in particular, but many places in Europe broke cold records in 2012.
Ice ages have been happening multiple times.
it was so cold here, last winter, i had to stop taking a piss outside.....kinda cramps a mans style if you ask me... :ugeek:
The nazi germans photographed antarctica back in the day. For what I´ve seen it is getting larger.
These mappings were done by airplanes and they are accurate.
It is arrogance that we think we could affect the entire planet with our actions.
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We were installing some equiptment in the wilderness back in 2010-2011 and it was the coldest winter in a 1000 years.
No it wasn't. Funny enough, there was a global warming denier myth that Europe was going to experience its coldest winter in 1,000 years for 2010-2011. But it didn't happen.
The Finnish Meteorological Institute says Finland has been warming.
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The annual mean temperature of Finland in the 1981-2010 normal period was almost 0,4 degrees higher compared to the previous normal period of 1971-2000 and approximately 0,7 degrees higher than in the official normal period of 1961-1990. The observed temperature rise is in reasonable agreement with the climate models.
If we compared the new normal period to the official 1961-1990 values, we can see that the temperature rise has been most notable during winter months.
//http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/normal-period-1981-2010
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The nazi germans photographed antarctica back in the day. For what I´ve seen it is getting larger.
These mappings were done by airplanes and they are accurate.
The Nazis explored only a small part of Antarctica and I doubt you've seen what Neuschwabenland looks like now compared to then.
Antarctica has also been warming.
Record warm temperatures, record cold temperatures. It shows that climate change has been taken over by people that do not put scientific data first. Both sides scientists are guilty of this too.
I did not have to look very hard to find this.
Never before has so much ice built up so late in the year on the Baltic Sea and in Gulf of Bothnia between Sweden and Finland — and records have been kept for 50 years, according to Swedish news agency TT.
"We have never seen anything like this," says icebreaking manager Ulf Gulldne, to the Swedish newspaper Örnsköldsviks Allehanda. A stubborn area of high pressure camped over Scandinavia has contributed to freezing temperatures late in the winter and to the new record.
On March 29, some 176,000 square kilometers of the Baltic were covered by ice. The previous record came in 2008, when just 49,000 square kilometers of sea ice were recorded as late as March 25.
Sorry Romero, climate change is natural and happens all the time. We the people are getting sick of giving money to your greedy lying corporatist friends for a non-existent emergency.
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Hey, where'd my glacier go? It was right here. Must be all that climate change.
No, really. I'm writing in Glacier Bay, a rightly famous beauty spot just west of Skagway (a famed tourist trap but that's a story for another, duller day). But it seems to be all bay and no glacier.
Those poor little massive annihilating rivers of ice have kind of retreated up the valley. They're still visible and magnificent. But they aren't in the bay.
I gather from the brochure that 333 years ago there wasn't a bay at all, just a broad grassy plain where the illustration suggests the Huna Tlingit stood around naked fishing in Alaskan waters (currently 12 degrees).
Those guys must have been tough as Narwhal tusks. In the pool it's 27 degrees.
If you're wondering what I'm doing in Alaska, blame fellow QMI Agency columnist Ezra Levant.
He either wanted me to have a breathtaking scenic adventure or be eaten by a Kodiak bear.
With that smile of his you're never quite sure.
Anyway, the point is the Tlingit were minding their own business when this huge glacier went "Hey buddy, I need your house" and crushed their entire neighbourhood on its way to the sea.
By 1750 it was sticking out into "Icy Strait" (see "fishing naked" and "tough as Narwhal tusks" above).
Now it's back where it came from, leaving a gouged-out bay. Darn climate change.
But here's an inconvenient truth.
By the time George Vancouver visited in 1795, the glacier had already retreated five miles up the gouged-out bay, leaving the Huna Tlingit going, 'Um didn't there used to be soil here?'
By 1860 it was another
20 miles or so up the new bay and gaining lack of momentum.
By 1879 it was nearly gone from all of what is now water, and by the 1892 survey was basically all on dry land except at the top of two inlets from which it was gone by the 1920s.
Now I know one swallow does not make a summer.
But isn't it odd that, in certain places, the ice has advanced since the 1920s?
A perky onboard presentation explained that man messing with the planet was causing some glaciers to grow by increasing precipitation.
But if the glacier turned purple and sang the aria from Faust, they'd blame man-made climate change so it doesn't tell us much.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service map, which constitutes my extensive research on this point, (hey, it could be worse, I could just have Googled it from Ottawa and instead I'm actually here looking at paper that might even be from Alaskan trees) naturally contains the sacred incantation, "Polar regions respond to changes in climate at faster rates than temperate and equatorial regions do. How will Glacier Bay change in your lifetime?"
Well gee, NPS, I don't know. And neither do you.
You don't really know why the glacier did the stuff it did before 1966, so you also don't know what it's going to do later.
In some places, glaciers are retreating; in others advancing. And they're doing it because the Earth's temperature goes up and down in the darndest ways.
One minute you're fishing in a bracing stream. The next your house is under
50 feet of hard blue ice.
Then George Vancouver sails up and watches the ice flee while man is still lucky to get a log burning.
Climate change is like that. It changes.
So if you ever get a chance to visit Alaska, do. The scenery is breathtaking and so far the bears aren't a big issue.
But if you're planning to fish near a glacier, bring some warm clothing and keep a sharp eye out.
You never know what that ice will do next.
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/08/09/dude-wheres-my-glacier-climate-change-theories-on-thin-ice
C'mon people don't let blips in Hansen's computer model predictions cause your faith to waver. Even more disastrous predictions are on the way to convince you how necessary it is to separate you from your money. Expect full government cooperation in the fleecing. :lol:
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Later this month, the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is likely to release its fifth major report since 1992 on the state of the Earth's environment and climate.
Why do I say likely?
Because there have been reports the IPCC is badly divided over what to say.
This is nothing new. Despite a steady drone by environmentalists and media that the science of climate change is "settled" and that there is an "overwhelming consensus" that human activity is causing dangerous climate change, the truth is more complex.
While most climate scientists do believe human action is having some impact on climate, there is far less than the 97% certainty trumpeted by the David Suzukis and Al Gores of the world. And there never has been.
If anything, the uncertainty is growing and that, according to leaked reports from inside the IPCC, is what is causing the delay in releasing the Fifth Assessment Report (AR5).
While the senior members of the IPCC insist their latest report be every bit as gloomy and alarmist as the past four, a growing number of scientists are unwilling to claim the world is going to hell in a handbasket unless we all stop using fossil fuels.
This has always been the case.
The executive summaries of past IPCC assessment reports (known officially as the summaries for policymakers) have been very much more emphatic than the dull, intricate science inside.
The crusading scientists, activists and politicians who write the summaries have always been keen to take their proclamations well beyond where the science led.
That has always been a tricky balance, but now, apparently, it is becoming nearly impossible to pull off.
You see, the Earth hasn't warmed in the past 16 or 17 years, even though the production of carbon dioxide has continued apace.
And it is becoming harder and harder for global warming's cheerleaders on the IPCC to square that circle.
As an increasing number of scientists begin to question the so-called consensus on climate change, the IPCC has pushed harder and harder for ever more dramatic and alarming predictions in AR5. Hence the delay.
Consider just a few recent announcements.
First, there were a few reports on Monday that Arctic sea ice is 60% greater than it was this time last year.
The northern ice cap begins to refreeze in September, so that means the slow shrinkage of Arctic ice may be reversing.
One year of ice growth does not make a trend, but imagine the hysterical headlines if it were the other way around — if the ice cap was 60% smaller.
There is also a growing body of scientific work that shows Earth's climate may not be as sensitive to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as once thought.
The most alarming predictions of climate change were based on the theory that CO2 would trap solar energy in the lower atmosphere, where it would be magnified two, three or even five times.
Many scientists now believe this "forcing" effect was vastly overstated.
That is why temperatures have not budged in the past 17 years, even as CO2 concentrations have risen.
Most importantly, though, might be a German study released last week that claims all 65 climate-model computers used by the IPCC to predict the future impact of CO2 on climate — every last one of them —has failed to foresee this 17-year pause in temperature rise.
Indeed, most of the environmentalists' vaunted supercomputers have trouble predicting past climate, much less future climate.
And if they cannot reproduce known climate, how can these computers be trusted to predict what's coming?
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/09/10/running-on-empty
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Because there have been reports the IPCC is badly divided over what to say.
Reports by deniers. The IPCC isn't divided at all. You'll see when the IPCC report is released.
It will show that the Earth has warmed the past 16 or 17 years. It will show that Arctic ice has been shrinking.
How do I know? Because the data shows the Earth has been warming and Arctic ice has been shrinking. There is global warming. It's being recorded and we're seeing it with our own eyes.
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When it comes to climate science reporting, the Mail on Sunday and Telegraph are only reliable in the sense that you can rely on them to usually get the science wrong. Both articles claimed that Arctic sea ice extent grew 60 percent in August 2013 as compared to August 2012. While this factoid may be technically true (though the 60 percent figure appears to be an exaggeration), it's also largely irrelevant.

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This year's higher sea ice extent is merely due to the fact that last year's minimum extent was record-shattering, and the weather was not as optimal for sea ice loss this summer. However, the long-term trend is one of rapid Arctic sea ice decline, and research has shown this is mostly due to human-caused global warming.
Both articles also wrongly claimed that global warming has "paused" since 1997. In reality, global surface temperatures have warmed over the past 15 years, albeit more slowly than during the previous 15 years. It is possible to cherry pick a shorter time frame over which global surface temperatures haven't warmed.

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However, the opposite is true of the overall warming of the planet – Earth has accumulated more heat over the past 15 years than during the prior 15 years.

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These two articles at the Mail on Sunday and Telegraph continue the unfortunate trend of shoddy climate reporting in the two periodicals, particularly from David Rose. They suffer from cherry picking short-term data while ignoring the long-term human-caused trends, misrepresenting climate research, repeating long-debunked myths, and inventing IPCC meetings despite being told by climate scientists that these claims are pure fiction.
//http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/sep/09/climate-change-arctic-sea-ice-delusions
It sounds like you are determined to go down with the trillion dollars that has been wasted on global warm mongering. That's your money and your business. If you want to keep making a few corporations, multi-billionaires and greedy, corrupt governments richer it really has nothing to do with me. I am not interested in their failed doom and gloom predictions and I taking a stand and refuse to give them anymore cash without a fight.
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Collapse of Climate Change Talks in Bonn plus the Epic Fail of Global Warming Prediction Models mean End of Climate Terror say Friends of Science
Russia foiled the climate talks in Bonn last week by challenging the 'consensus' decision making process that they said often excludes them; that 'draft agreements' are offered up in the 11th hour for approval without their valid input. In light of revelations that global warming stopped 16 years ago, despite a rise in carbon dioxide (CO2), Friends of Science point out that computer model predictions of warming are all wrong with tropical warming trends from 1979 off by a factor of four – the evidence shows no global warming.
A graph published last week in Canada's prestigious Financial Post is generating climate change controversy. The comparative graph from Dr. John Christy and Dr. Roy Spencer U of Alabama Huntsville (UAH) compares 73 climate model projections to the temperature measurements from two different monitoring system: satellites and weather balloons. These model runs will be used in the upcoming assessment report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Dr. Roy Spencer says, "Now, in what universe do [these] results not represent an epic failure for the models?"
"After nearly thirty years of a reign of psychological fear of deadly global warming, citizens of the world can relax," said Len Maier, President of Friends of Science. "There's no catastrophic global warming in progress – no global warming now at all, in fact."
Some scientists have predicted frightening high temperatures saying there would be deadly consequences for people. In fact, the evidence shows global warming has stopped over 16 years ago. The IPCC has confirmed that global warming has stopped.
"People were terrified by Al Gore's movie 'An Inconvenient Truth'," says Maier. "The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) made frightening predictions and governments reacted accordingly. Now we know the modellers were wrong."
"Garbage In, Garbage Out (GIGO)," says Ken Gregory, a director of Friends of Science and an engineer who uses models for various applications himself. "A model can be a useful guide in some instances when most factors are known. "The climate modellers fail to consider natural causes of climate change. Changes in clouds and water vapor counteract the small effect of greenhouse gas emissions, contrary to climate model assumptions."
Actual global temperatures are measured by both satellites and weather balloons.
Dr. Roy Spencer and Dr. John Christy, publish the UAH satellite dataset of atmosphere temperatures. The trend of the two satellite datasets is identical to the trend of the four weather balloon datasets.
Dr. Spencer writes, "I frankly don't see how the IPCC can keep claiming that the models are 'not inconsistent with' the observations. Any sane person can see otherwise."
There has been no near-surface global warming for 16 years despite 33% of all man-made carbon dioxide emission since 1750 being produced during the period. It appears that global warming or cooling is driven by something other than carbon dioxide or emissions from fossil fuel use.
The scientific method requires theory to be modified to match observations. Ken Gregory, a director of the Friends of Science, says, "Climate modellers have apparently given up on matching their computer runs to observations." The famous physicist Dr. Richard Feynman said, "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is ... If it doesn't agree with the experiment, it's wrong."

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IPCC"s view of a consensus; you must agree without question that the world is warming unlike before and man is totally responsible for it then you are part of the final draft.
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The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change misled the press and public into believing that thousands of scientists backed its claims on manmade global warming, according to Mike Hulme, a prominent climate scientist and IPCC insider. The actual number of scientists who backed that claim was "only a few dozen experts," he states in a paper for Progress in Physical Geography, co-authored with student Martin Mahony.
"Claims such as '2,500 of the world's leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate' are disingenuous," the paper states unambiguously, adding that they rendered "the IPCC vulnerable to outside criticism."
Hulme, Professor of Climate Change in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia – the university of Climategate fame — is the founding Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research and one of the UK's most prominent climate scientists. Among his many roles in the climate change establishment, Hulme was the IPCC's co-ordinating Lead Author for its chapter on 'Climate scenario development' for its Third Assessment Report and a contributing author of several other chapters.
Hulme's depiction of IPCC's exaggeration of the number of scientists who backed its claim about man-made climate change can be found on pages 10 and 11 of his paper, found here.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/06/13/the-ipcc-consensus-on-climate-change-was-phoney-says-ipcc-insider/
I used to believe the gospel of AGW in high school too. When I got to uni I didn't have a single prof who accepted the Gore/Suzuki/Hansen schtick that climate change was unique or completely caused by man. Then again with their self-indulgent huge carbon footprints those hypocrits obviously don't believe in it either.
[size=200]And now it's global COOLING! Record return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 60% in a year[/size]
[size=200]• Almost a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012
• BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013
• Publication of UN climate change report suggesting global warming caused by humans pushed back to later this month[/size]
By David Rose
PUBLISHED: 23:37 GMT, 7 September 2013 | UPDATED: 12:01 GMT, 8 September 2013
A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.
The rebound from 2012's record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.
Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores.
The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year. More than 20 yachts that had planned to sail it have been left ice-bound and a cruise ship attempting the route was forced to turn back.
Some eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century – a process that would expose computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming as dangerously misleading.
The disclosure comes 11 months after The Mail on Sunday triggered intense political and scientific debate by revealing that global warming has 'paused' since the beginning of 1997 – an event that the computer models used by climate experts failed to predict.
In March, this newspaper further revealed that temperatures are about to drop below the level that the models forecast with '90 per cent certainty'.
The pause – which has now been accepted as real by every major climate research centre – is important, because the models' predictions of ever-increasing global temperatures have made many of the world's economies divert billions of pounds into 'green' measures to counter climate change.
Those predictions now appear gravely flawed.
The continuing furore caused by The Mail on Sunday's revelations – which will now be amplified by the return of the Arctic ice sheet – has forced the UN's climate change body to hold a crisis meeting.
The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was due in October to start publishing its Fifth Assessment Report – a huge three-volume study issued every six or seven years. It will now hold a pre-summit in Stockholm later this month.
Leaked documents show that governments which support and finance the IPCC are demanding more than 1,500 changes to the report's 'summary for policymakers'. They say its current draft does not properly explain the pause.
At the heart of the row lie two questions: the extent to which temperatures will rise with carbon dioxide levels, as well as how much of the warming over the past 150 years – so far, just 0.8C – is down to human greenhouse gas emissions and how much is due to natural variability.
In its draft report, the IPCC says it is '95 per cent confident' that global warming has been caused by humans – up from 90 per cent in 2007.
This claim is already hotly disputed. US climate expert Professor Judith Curry said last night: 'In fact, the uncertainty is getting bigger. It's now clear the models are way too sensitive to carbon dioxide. I cannot see any basis for the IPCC increasing its confidence level.'
She pointed to long-term cycles in ocean temperature, which have a huge influence on climate and suggest the world may be approaching a period similar to that from 1965 to 1975, when there was a clear cooling trend. This led some scientists at the time to forecast an imminent ice age.
Professor Anastasios Tsonis, of the University of Wisconsin, was one of the first to investigate the ocean cycles. He said: 'We are already in a cooling trend, which I think will continue for the next 15 years at least. There is no doubt the warming of the 1980s and 1990s has stopped.
'The IPCC claims its models show a pause of 15 years can be expected. But that means that after only a very few years more, they will have to admit they are wrong.'
Others are more cautious. Dr Ed Hawkins, of Reading University, drew the graph published by The Mail on Sunday in March showing how far world temperatures have diverged from computer predictions. He admitted the cycles may have caused some of the recorded warming, but insisted that natural variability alone could not explain all of the temperature rise over the past 150 years.
Nonetheless, the belief that summer Arctic ice is about to disappear remains an IPCC tenet, frequently flung in the face of critics who point to the pause.
Yet there is mounting evidence that Arctic ice levels are cyclical. Data uncovered by climate historians show that there was a massive melt in the 1920s and 1930s, followed by intense re-freezes that ended only in 1979 – the year the IPCC says that shrinking began.
Professor Curry said the ice's behaviour over the next five years would be crucial, both for understanding the climate and for future policy. 'Arctic sea ice is the indicator to watch,' she said.
^^The carbon billionaires must be getting scared. :lol:
Oh jeez. Fucking freezing out here...
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Offering new insights into our fragile polar regions, European Space Agency's CryoSat mission has provided three consecutive years of Arctic sea-ice thickness measurements, which show that the ice continues to thin.
Although satellites have witnessed a downward trend in the extent of sea ice over the last two decades, it is essential to have accurate information on the mass or volume of ice being lost. This is a more accurate measure of the changes taking place.
Along with observations of ice extent, CryoSat's measurements of thickness now span from October 2010 to April 2013, allowing scientists to work out the real loss of ice, monitor seasonal change and identify trends.
Prof. Andrew Shepherd from the University of Leeds, UK, said, "CryoSat continues to provide clear evidence of diminishing Arctic sea ice.
"From the satellite's measurements we can see that some parts of the ice pack ice have thinned more rapidly than others, but there has been a decrease in the volume of winter and summer ice over the past three years.
"The volume of the sea ice at the end of last winter was less than 15 000 cubic km, which is lower than any other year going into summer and indicates less winter growth than usual."
While it seems unlikely that a record minimum of sea-ice extent will be set this September, the thinner ice at the start of summer could mean that the actual volume of ice may reach a new low.
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Good for Britain's Met office. A little honesty for a change in climate modelling.
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Global warming has stalled and will not raise world temperatures over the next five years, according to a new prediction from the British national weather service.
The updated computer model of the planet's climate lowers by about 20% an earlier prediction of how much hotter the coming few years will be than the long-term average since 1971.
The new prediction "does not necessarily tell us anything about long-term predictions of climate change," the Met Office said in a statement, and it is "actively researching potential causes of the recent slowdown in global warming, including natural variability."
"I suspect a lot of modelling groups are going to have to start revising their forecasts down, because most of them are running too hot," said Ross McKitrick, a University of Guelph economist who was instrumental in debunking the famous "hockey stick" graph of rising global temperatures. "There are so many models that are now so far off that it suggests a wider problem with the technique."
The downgraded prediction recalls the 2006 report by the British government that pegged the economic cost of climate change at 20% of global GDP each year "now and forever," but was criticized for relying too heavily on extreme and unlikely outcomes, and is now outdated after the global economic downturn.
"This does not mean that there is no man-made global warming," said Bjorn Lomborg, a Danish academic and author of The Skeptical Environmentalist. "But it does mean that we perhaps should not be quite as scared as some people might have been from the mid '70s to about 2000, when temperatures rose dramatically, because they were probably at least partially rising dramatically because of natural variation, just like they are now stalling because of natural variation."
He called the revised prediction "a return to the humility that we probably should have had right from the start," and a reminder that the climate is harder to predict than scientists once "naively" thought.
"The short-term prediction has always been dodgy. It's really hard to say what's going to happen in five years. Global warming is about what's going to happen in 20 or 50 or 100 years," Mr. Lomborg said.
The public announcement of a minor adjustment to a massively complex computer model also highlights the dangers for scientists of making predictions on controversial matters of public policy.
Bruce Pardy, a professor of environmental law at Queen's University, said such predictions are especially dangerous because the common understanding of climate change remains simplistic on all sides. He cited the impulse to blame Hurricane Sandy on global warming as an example of wrong-headed thinking.
"In an ideal world, the policy that's put in place should not be designed to change what's going to happen in the short term. But the game that everybody is playing is to emphasize short-term things so as to produce pressure in the direction they prefer," he said.
"If the impetus required for a universal, binding, international commitment is to have the sky falling, this [new report] doesn't say the sky is falling, at least not tomorrow. It doesn't change the idea that the sky might fall, or be in the process of falling, further out. But if what is missing in these international negotiations is a crisis, this doesn't help paint it as a crisis, or at least an immediate crisis," Prof. Pardy said.
"It all depends upon your policy preference, and frankly a lot of policy preferences exist before the data."
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/08/global-warming-hasnt-stopped-but-it-has-stalled-says-new-prediction-from-british-national-weather-service/
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When projections from the newer CMIP5 models are combined with observations, and specifically including the surface temperatures from the last 10 years, the upper bound of projections of warming are slightly reduced, but the lower bound is largely unchanged. More importantly, the most likely warming is reduced by only 10%, indicating that the warming that we might previously have expected by 2050 would be delayed by only a few years.
//http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/3/r/Paper3_Implications_for_projections.pdf
Now even the biggest pimp of disingenuous climate computer models(UN) had had to eat a little crow. If it wasn't for the fact that the global warming/green energy scam has pilfered so much money from working class Westerners pockets it would be as laughable as Y2K.
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Next month the UN bureaucracy in charge of global warming, called the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, will release its first major scientific report in six years. Word has leaked out that they have revised downward their projections for global temperatures.
They still say the world will heat up. They're just making their new guesses less extreme, because their last guesses have been so wrong.
"Projections" and "guesses" are more appropriate terms than the word "prediction." Because as the prestigious scientific journal, Nature Climate Change, reveals this month, out of 117 climate computer models over the past 15 years, 114 of them were wrong, and all of those were wrong in the same direction. Out of 117, 114 projected the world would warm far more than it has.
If you had 117 monkeys randomly throwing darts at a dart board, you would have a few bullseyes, and the rest would be evenly scattered - some high, some low, some left, some right. But the UN's predictions all skewed high. That doesn't happen by chance. That's a sign of inherent bias. To use a computer science term, "garbage in, garbage out." If you build a computer model that is tilted to yield a certain outcome, you can be pretty sure that it will.
Nature's peer-reviewed study showed that since 1998, actual recorded temperatures on the Earth went up by a microscopic 0.05 degrees per decade. As in, 1/20th of a degree, over 10 years. That's so small it's almost unmeasurable. Global warming stopped back when Clinton was president. Titanic was the hit movie.
Shania Twain's You're Still the One topped the charts. That's a long time ago.
But 114 official projections claimed there would be massive global warming. A Ouija board would be more accurate. So would a kid's magic eight ball, or a pair of dice.
Anyone who has heard of the ice ages, and knows we're not in one now, acknowledges the world has warmed and cooled over the millennia, and those cycles will likely continue. The brilliant political innovation of the IPCC was to politicize those natural changes, and to blame them on something taxable: carbon dioxide, or CO2.
It is that fetishization of carbon that is so absurd - carbon, the stuff of life, the sixth element on the periodic table, the essential element in our own bodies, let alone our foods (carbs) and industrial activity (carburetors).
A prominent anti-oil lobby group was formed called 350.org , named after the so-called "tipping point" of parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere, after which warm-mongers said we would never recover. Except that CO2 is now nearing 400 ppm, in part because of China's booming industrial economy. But the temperature has stopped moving.
This is like the Y2K millennium bug that companies and governments spent billions of dollars fixing, that launched a thousand TV news special reports. But it turned out to be a hoax - a scheme for lobbyists and consultants. At least it ended on Jan. 1, 2000. And at least the Mayan apocalypse had an end date, too: 2012.
How many more years will politicians keep demonizing carbon dioxide for global warming that isn't happening? A better question is, how much longer will voters - and taxpayers - go along for the ride?
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/09/20130917-073409.html
Man I fucking hate the green activists with their eco BS.
I recently bought near 52hectares of woods from a forced auction. As I have started chop it down to raise money, green activists have been pestering me once again.
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Colorado flooding has not only overwhelmed roads and homes, but also the oil and gas infrastructure stationed in one of the most densely drilled areas in the U.S. Although oil companies have shut down much of their operations in Weld County due to flooding, nearby locals say an unknown amount of chemicals has leaked out and possibly contaminated waters, mixing fracking fluids and oil along with sewage, gasoline, and agriculture pesticides.
"You have 100, if not thousands, of wells underwater right now and we have no idea what those wells are leaking," East Boulder County United spokesman Cliff Willmeng said Monday. "It's very clear they are leaking into the floodwaters though."
Photographs shared by East Boulder County United, a Colorado environmental group that opposes hydraulic fracturing, show many tanks have been ruptured and others floating in the flood. At least one pipeline has been confirmed broken and leaking.
No one, from oil companies to regulators, seems to know the exact extent of the damage yet as they survey the damage. But Executive Director of the Colorado Department of Natural Resources Mike King told the Denver Post that, "The scale is unprecedented." Meanwhile, the Colorado Department of Public Health has advised everyone to stay away from the water, as it is possibly contaminated by "raw sewage, as well as potential releases from homes, businesses, and industry."
//http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/09/17/2630131/oil-fracking-colorado-flooding/
We're starting to see a lot of this more recently. It's just the beginning.
It's time for the man made global warming sky is falling jillionaires to own up to their mistakes and fraud. I suggest we follow David Suzuki's advice and jail em for their failed computer model predictions that have made working class people in the West a lot poorer.
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Do we finally get an apology on global warming science?
The alarmists have not only been wrong. Many of them have been unspeakably rude.
And normally when that happens, you say sorry.
I thought so when the scandal erupted around University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit e-mails in 2009. And I certainly think so now that the latest IPCC report admits they and their computers have drastically exaggerated warming since 1990.
They can't even predict the past, let alone the future. Isn't that kind of embarrassing given the shrillness of their rhetoric?
To be sure, public policy is a place for vigorous debate. Not every public remark I make radiates Christian charity.
You can't debate important matters without criticizing important errors bluntly. But people who went around sneering about flat-earthers and "deniers" and comparing them to people unwilling to admit smoking causes cancer or HIV causes AIDS were not engaging in debate.
They were trying to prevent it. They were not trying to refute their adversaries but to crush them. And they were also wrong, and ignorant.
In a schoolyard, that behaviour would be classified as bullying. When it happens on a major policy issue, I think someone somewhere should act sorry.
Especially those who went around saying the skeptics were in the pay of the oil companies, which amounted to hitting the other guy below the belt.
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the government grants available to global warming alarmists dwarf the funding available to those lonely "fringe" voices who dispute that the sky is on fire and humans are the arsonists.
I'm not saying anyone should be legally punished for being loudly, rudely wrong on a major policy issue.
Unlike, say, David Suzuki, who mused in 2008 about jailing leaders for daring to disagree with him.
Such malevolence would have tarnished and possibly humbled a lesser man.
But I am saying if they can be this aggressively wrong and unrepentant on a major issue, it might be better not to listen to them as carefully in future.
As I've said before, I don't know whether global warming is happening.
It probably is, because the Earth's temperature has been well under the typical average for at least 2.5 million years and in all likelihood has been drifting back toward the norm for the last 15,000. But if so, man is not causing it, and can't stop it, so we better find ways to adapt.
My colleague Ezra Levant just wrote: "Anyone who has heard of the ice ages, and knows we're not in one now, acknowledges the world has warmed and cooled over the millennia, and those cycles will likely continue."
But we are, because an ice age is defined as a period with significant polar ice. Fortunately we're in a comparatively benign part of one that began around 15,000 years ago. And we'll be in a right mess if it goes away.
None of this was ever a secret. It was on the public record.
So the latest revelations that the computer models can't even predict the past are merely a good time to apologize for the abuse, not a justification for it until now.
We've always known the computer "models" can't predict the last 1,000 years, including the famous Medieval Warm Period, the past 15,000 including the well-known Younger Dryas, or the Pleistocene with its 11 major glaciations that start and stop abruptly and mysteriously.
And if we didn't know, we could easily look it up online.
Those who instead spent their time searching for new insults to silence opponents should now be seeking out ways to apologize to them.
Surely elementary decency demands it.
Got any?
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/09/18/no-scientific-evidence-of-global-humility
The latest IPCC report will not say they and their computers have drastically exaggerated warming since 1990.
Deniers. Making up stuff about a report that hasn't been released!
Arctic ice cap grows by 60% in one year even though we were told by scientists that the Arctic would be ice free by now. Plus failed computer model projections and a decade and half lull in global warming must have all the big corporations, big NGO's, big government and billionaires who financed the scam a little uncomfortable right about now. These big money sleazebags have done more to reduce disposable income in the West than anything else I have ever seen. As Howard C. Hayden, emeritus professor of physics from the University of Connecticut stated big money is behind the global-warming propaganda."
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For years, we've all heard that global warming is threatening our planet. But now, in a stunning turnaround, world scientists are warning that an era of global cooling seems to be upon us, complete with extraordinary expansions of ocean ice being recorded in just the past year.
Even the latest UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report seems to indicate that an era of global cooling is now underway, according to many scientists.
It turns out that global warming predictions were little more than doom-and-gloom fear mongering based on failed computer models.
For example, in 2007, the BBC reported that the Arctic would be "ice-free" by the summer of 2013. Here's exactly how that fear mongering was published by the BBC:
Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice. Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years. Professor Wieslaw Maslowski told an American Geophysical Union meeting that previous projections had underestimated the processes now driving ice loss.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html
The Arctic ice cap grows every winter. Nobody has said the ice will only decrease, but it has been decreasing overall. It's currently at one of the lowest levels ever recorded.
The BBC article said the Arctic could be ice free "by 2016 plus or minus three years". So it would only be false if it's not true by 2019. It is getting there though it may not be exactly 2019. There is much more shipping taking Arctic routes now, as was predicted.
You gotta stop depending on tabloids for your information.
Big corporations, big money NGO's and big government have all used failed computer model predictions to justify making working class people poorer and the mega-rich even richer. They should all be held accountable.
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World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong Leaked report reveals the world has warmed at quarter the rate claimed by IPCC in 2007
Scientists accept their computers may have exaggerated
A leaked copy of the world's most authoritative climate study reveals scientific forecasts of imminent doom were drastically wrong.
The Mail on Sunday has obtained the final draft of a report to be published later this month by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the ultimate watchdog whose massive, six-yearly 'assessments' are accepted by environmentalists, politicians and experts as the gospel of climate science.
They are cited worldwide to justify swingeing fossil fuel taxes and subsidies for 'renewable' energy.
Yet the leaked report makes the extraordinary concession that over the past 15 years, recorded world temperatures have increased at only a quarter of the rate of IPCC claimed when it published its last assessment in 2007.Back then, it said observed warming over the 15 years from 1990-2005 had taken place at a rate of 0.2C per decade, and it predicted this would continue for the following 20 years, on the basis of forecasts made by computer climate models.
But the new report says the observed warming over the more recent 15 years to 2012 was just 0.05C per decade - below almost all computer predictions.
The 31-page 'summary for policymakers' is based on a more technical 2,000-page analysis which will be issued at the same time. It also surprisingly reveals: IPCC scientists accept their forecast computers may have exaggerated the effect of increased carbon emissions on world temperatures – and not taken enough notice of natural variability.
They recognise the global warming 'pause' first reported by The Mail on Sunday last year is real – and concede that their computer models did not predict it. But they cannot explain why world average temperatures have not shown any statistically significant increase since 1997.
They admit large parts of the world were as warm as they are now for decades at a time between 950 and 1250 AD – centuries before the Industrial Revolution, and when the population and CO2 levels were both much lower.
The IPCC admits that while computer models forecast a decline in Antarctic sea ice, it has actually grown to a new record high. Again, the IPCC cannot say why.
A forecast in the 2007 report that hurricanes would become more intense has simply been dropped, without mention.
This year has been one of the quietest hurricane seasons in history and the US is currently enjoying its longest-ever period – almost eight years – without a single hurricane of Category 3 or above making landfall.
She said it therefore made no sense that the IPCC was claiming that its confidence in its forecasts and conclusions has increased.
For example, in the new report, the IPCC says it is 'extremely likely' – 95 per cent certain – that human influence caused more than half the temperature rises from 1951 to 2010, up from 'very confident' – 90 per cent certain – in 2007.Prof Curry said: 'This is incomprehensible to me' – adding that the IPCC projections are 'overconfident', especially given the report's admitted areas of doubt.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Worlds-climate-scientists-confess-Global-warming-just-QUARTER-thought--computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html

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Light-hearted stuff here from Monte Solberg. Everybody should be excited the planet is not warming nearly as severely as we have had drilled into our minds. However, I'm sure the Gore/Greenpeace/Hansen crowd will not be be uncorking some sparkling wine in celebration the sky is not falling.
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Finally, some good news on the climate change front: Our planetary hot flashes are not as hot as we thought.
According to reports, the International Panel on Climate Change will soon reveal that the climate isn't warming nearly as fast as predicted.
In 2007, leading science guys at the IPCC projected that the planet would warm at a rate of .2 degrees every 10 years. They now say the rate is only .12 degrees.
It seems the computers were at fault, which we can all appreciate. Who hasn't had their computer send out stupidly worded e-mails, or make thoughtless comments leaving their human owners to take the blame?
Anyway, this is terrific news given what these same people were saying in previous IPCC reports. Until it was revealed that the computers got it so wrong, there was deep concern that many of our leading and favourite islands (I'm talking about you Prince Edward) would soon disappear under the waves, never to grow another potato.
Given the new projections, it looks like Islanders will have a bit more time to move stuff out of the basement before the waves start lapping up around dad's easy chair.
All of this should be good news, and yet not everyone is happy. For some reason, many climate change warriors seem disappointed that things aren't quite as bad as they thought. If so, they probably won't want to hear about the Arctic ice cap either.
Satellite images show that it grew 60% this year compared to August 2012.
We now have as much ice as we had back in 2002. Polar bears everywhere are celebrating with a bottle of Coke, though they shouldn't celebrate too much just yet.
One commentator sniffed that the sudden growth in the northern polar cap is likely just a regression to the mean.
What he meant is that after the downward trend in Arctic Sea ice, it's normal to have a year where the sea ice grows.
OK, fair enough, but in the meantime shouldn't we take some good news where we can find it?
I mean, 60% growth is a big jump. It might even mean that it's more than a regression to the mean, if you know what I mean.
But the good/bad news doesn't end there.
As Nobel Prize winner Al Gore points out in his "documentary," An Inconvenient Truth, a warmer planet will mean more and stronger hurricanes.
Sadly, this year the hurricanes found this truth so inconvenient that they have barely shown up.
Late arrival
The first hurricane to form this year was the second latest to form in history.
Obviously this is terrific news.
Hurricanes wreck stuff and kill people.
It's good news that people like Al Gore should be celebrating.
But then again, these are just a series of disconnected anecdotes.
They don't prove anything. I'm certainly not a scientist and if nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for my work in this area, I will not accept.
In the meantime, let's hope those IPCC scientists are able to buy some new computers.
If they keep at it, I'm sure they'll eventually get it right.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/09/20/warming-talk-cools-good-climate-news-just-isnt-computing
The antarctica is getting bigger.
If you take a look what these tin-foil hatted coocoos have said in the past, you would realize that human kind would have been decimated decades ago.
You have to realize that these fools get a living of researching.
Like when our health research department promoted the vaccine against swine-flu... They were funded by the medical-factory which produced this so called cure.
Swine flu onlý kills the very old people.
And the vaccine caused Narcolepsy among young kids.
Swine flu is not that dangerous. Just keep yourself hydrated.
The global warming is basically the same thing... Keeping people in fear.
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For some reason, many climate change warriors seem disappointed that things aren't quite as bad as they thought. If so, they probably won't want to hear about the Arctic ice cap either.
Satellite images show that it grew 60% this year compared to August 2012
August 2012 Arctic ice was a record low. It was no big surprise there was 60% more ice this year. It has occurred from time to time and it will happen in the future. There have always been increases and decreases but measurements show Arctic ice is decreasing overall.
Deniers see one 60% increase and believe the ice is somehow 60% more than ever. Yet it's simply an increase compared to the lowest extent ever recorded. August 2013 Arctic ice was actually the sixth lowest on record, which clearly indicates it's still one of the lowest extents and the trend over the many years is less ice.

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There's no disappointment that "things aren't quite as bad". The reality hasn't changed or magically disappeared. Global temperatures over the years and decades have been continually rising and Arctic ice has indeed decreased.
It's right there on record. There is much less Arctic ice now than there was years and decades ago.
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If you take a look what these tin-foil hatted coocoos have said in the past, you would realize that human kind would have been decimated decades ago.
Air pollution causes millions of deaths worldwide every year.
Water pollution harms humans and kills fish.
Lead has harmed humans and has killed thousands upon thousands of animals.
Acid rain seriously impacts the environment.
CFCs have depleted the ozone layer.
PCBs are dangerously toxic.
Overhunting, poaching and loss of habitat have driven thousands of animal species into extinction.
Overfishing has seriously depleted fish stocks.
DDT nearly caused the demise of the bald eagle.
Clearcutting can cause landslides and degradation.
Parkland and refuges are necessary to protect our most cherished environments.
What have environmentalists been wrong about yet?
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Quote from: "Odinson"
If you take a look what these tin-foil hatted coocoos have said in the past, you would realize that human kind would have been decimated decades ago.
Air pollution causes millions of deaths worldwide every year.
Water pollution harms humans and kills fish.
Lead has harmed humans and has killed thousands upon thousands of animals.
Acid rain seriously impacts the environment.
CFCs have depleted the ozone layer.
PCBs are dangerously toxic.
Overhunting, poaching and loss of habitat have driven thousands of animal species into extinction.
Overfishing has seriously depleted fish stocks.
DDT nearly caused the demise of the bald eagle.
Clearcutting can cause landslides and degradation.
Parkland and refuges are necessary to protect our most cherished environments.
What have environmentalists been wrong about yet?
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everyone can agree it is a good thing to have a clean environment, not put toxic chemicals into the environment, not kill off species, etc etc.....what people like me (the majority) object too, is some radical, brain dead, lefty occutard trying to transfer money from my pocket to some shithole third world dictator under the guise of saving the planet from "man made" global warming.....a phenomenon that is currently unproven and a science that has been debunked as being bunk by serious scientists the world over.....the planet is not warming at an alarming degree and will not go to hell in a handbasket any time soon as the climates wailers and teeth nashers would have us believe...the world has now wasted billions if not trillions of dollars to try and solve a problem that does not exist.....so you ask..when have environmentalists been wrong ??.....not sure, but these climate gloom and doomer nuts have always been wrong

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Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Odinson"
If you take a look what these tin-foil hatted coocoos have said in the past, you would realize that human kind would have been decimated decades ago.
Air pollution causes millions of deaths worldwide every year.
Water pollution harms humans and kills fish.
Lead has harmed humans and has killed thousands upon thousands of animals.
Acid rain seriously impacts the environment.
CFCs have depleted the ozone layer.
PCBs are dangerously toxic.
Overhunting, poaching and loss of habitat have driven thousands of animal species into extinction.
Overfishing has seriously depleted fish stocks.
DDT nearly caused the demise of the bald eagle.
Clearcutting can cause landslides and degradation.
Parkland and refuges are necessary to protect our most cherished environments.
What have environmentalists been wrong about yet?
You use such strong words like depleted... That´s the word which german high command used in the end of the war.... "the reserves are depleted".
You would think people would be happy to finally know that there is no catastrophic disaster looming. However, the climate change industry is huge and the big corporations, big governments and big NGO's that have pilfered the pockets of working people in the West see it a threat to their greed.
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Back in 1997 when global warming was just becoming the hysterical scientific fad it has been for the past decade-and-a-half, John Christy was sure he could put an end to the alarmism by showing his findings to an international conference of climatologists.
Christy was then the director of NASA's eight weather satellites. The octet of satellites are in stationary orbit around the planet and take over 300,000 precise temperature readings each day. Their big advantage over earthbound thermometers is that they take their readings on mountaintops, in the middle of vast oceans and at hundreds of remote locations as well as from the same sites as land- and ship-based surface readings.
And what Christy's "birds" had found was that there had been little, if any warming in the middle and upper atmosphere since the 1970s. Since the global warming theory had always held (and still does) that they upper layers of the atmosphere should warm first (because that is where the buildup of carbon dioxide should have the greatest impact), Christy thought his findings would be welcomed as good news.
They were not. Most other climate scientists scoffed. Some were angry. And one even came up to him after his address and said, "Your observations cannot be correct because they disagree with my models."
Since computer models that forecast the future effects of carbon are merely predictions -- sophisticated predictions, but predictions nonetheless -- the modellers statement to Christy was the equivalent of a gambler saying "the scores in the paper on Monday cannot be correct because they aren't the same as the bets I placed on Saturday."
Still, that is the prejudice in favour of climate hysteria that scientists who disagree with the orthodoxy have long encountered. They are encountering it still.
On Friday, the UN's climate body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released its fifth mammoth report on the state of Earth's climate. Despite admitting that global warming in the past 60 years has been only half what it had claimed in its first four mega-reports, the IPCC is still insisting humans are to blame for climate change.
But since the warming they have seen to date is well with "natural variability" -- i.e. normal, naturally occurring climate fluctuations -- and since the IPCC now admits for the first time that there has been no significant warming since 1998, the question has to be: What climate change?
For instance, the IPCC now admits the temperature increase seen in the past six decades has been just 0.12 degrees per decade, not the 0.2 or more degrees it previous claimed. Since there have been plenty of periods in Earth's past, long before industrialization and manmade CO2 emissions, in which temperature has risen by similar amounts per decade, how is it still possible for the IPCC to insist it knows the recent rise is manmade and dangerous?
As an aside: If they're now admitting they were wrong about the observable past, how can we have any faith in their predictions for 100 years from now? Recording the past is easier than predicting the future.
But the key admission in the IPCC report is "there is a lack of agreement" on just how sensitive the climate is to carbon dioxide. Since the entire climate-alarm hysteria has been based on the belief that the climate is very sensitive -- multiplying the effects of CO2 by two- or three- or even six-fold — this amounts to an admission by the IPCC that, contrary to their assurances over the past 20 years, the science on climate change is far from "settled."
There is no longer a consensus on whether the planet is warming or why.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/09/28/gunter-no-consensus-on-climate-change
I say this again.. The polar icecap melting causes alot of sweetwater to be released in the saltwater. This will stop the golf-current causing the north to freeze yet again.
Enough time has passed from the last ice-age and the next one is coming.
That´s just another theory.
I have heard them all. Global dimming saying the earth should pitch black by now. The sun seems to emitt almost pure white light.
If you look at the history, there´s always some kind of big bad threat to keep the people inline. Keeping people in fear.