I don't get the fucker. In some ways, he is on our side. And yet, I think he is a traitor.
Seoul is a pragmatist...like me.
He rejects the concept of being one side or the other.
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He rejects the concept of being one side or the other.
The Seoul brother is a lot closer to lefttism than you are. Except economics, than he is a righty.
Well, you cannot be a capitalist and a socialist in the same body.
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Scouse is a a commie nationalist. Seoul is an ultra free enterprise globalist.
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It depends on your definition of progtard. Do I hate people that are of a different race or religion like you do. Absolutetely not.
Carbon taxes, unleash me.
SEE!!! I told you so.
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It depends on your definition of progtard. Do I hate people who are of a different race or religion like you do. Absolutetely not.
Carbon taxes, unleash me.
I'm sure Herman is drunk.
Herman drinks?
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You will find that in Asian cultures, wealth and fortune are very highly regarded as one of the most important things in life.
This is a cultural thing, and that's why you will see many Asians lean to the 'right' when it comes to economics...
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it's probably fake news.
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You will find that in Asian cultures, wealth and fortune are very highly regarded as one of the most important things in life.
This is a cultural thing, and that's why you will see many Asians lean to the 'right' when it comes to economics...
Whatever the case, Seoul is a good poster.
"Whatever the case" = "You are correct, Ace!"
okay
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Are you so insecure you need affirmation.
He's a liberal leftie when it comes to immigration. He'd fit right in with the unwashed 'refugees welcome' brigade.
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What? ac_unsure
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What? ac_unsure
You are hard left when it comes to economic issues. Actually, I take that back. You don't know fuck all about bread and butter matters.
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Dude, if you're a "national socialist", you are a communist. What part of "socialist" do you not comprehend?
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What? ac_unsure
Dude, if you're a "national socialist", you are a communist. What part of "socialist" do you not comprehend?
Communism and National Socialism are exact polar opposites. :2r4ml1j_th:
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What? ac_unsure
Dude, if you're a "national socialist", you are a communist. What part of "socialist" do you not comprehend?
Communism and National Socialism are exact polar opposites. :2r4ml1j_th:
They are nearly identical fool.
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No, they are not. They are distinguished by a single factor; communism is based on changing the entire world to a socialist paradise. National Socialism is based on the same economic model and government dictatorship but on the basis of a single nation or race. Economically they are based on the same principles.
Communism was never intended by its architect to be implemented in Russia. Marx's intent was to create communism in Germany, because of its highly advanced industrial base and opportunity for workers to be fully employed. Russia was a backward, primitive rural based economy with little industry for worker's to be engaged in. Hitler was well aware that socialism in Germany was the way forward, and to be fair, the country prospered. But the workers were utterly separated from governance.
The Marxist centrally controlled and planned economic model was adopted by Hitler, to much better effect than it was by Lenin, who was hampered by a country far behind the modern world.
What a with all the labelling these days?
Try again.
English, this time.
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No, they are not. They are distinguished by a single factor; communism is based on changing the entire world to a socialist paradise. National Socialism is based on the same economic model and government dictatorship but on the basis of a single nation or race. Economically they are based on the same principles.
Communism was never intended by its architect to be implemented in Russia. Marx's intent was to create communism in Germany, because of its highly advanced industrial base and opportunity for workers to be fully employed. Russia was a backward, primitive rural based economy with little industry for worker's to be engaged in. Hitler was well aware that socialism in Germany was the way forward, and to be fair, the country prospered. But the workers were utterly separated from governance.
The Marxist centrally controlled and planned economic model was adopted by Hitler, to much better effect than it was by Lenin, who was hampered by a country far behind the modern world.
All very true, but it will go right over Scouse's thick skull.
Socialism is the gateway drug for communism.
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No, they are not. They are distinguished by a single factor; communism is based on changing the entire world to a socialist paradise. National Socialism is based on the same economic model and government dictatorship but on the basis of a single nation or race. Economically they are based on the same principles.
Communism was never intended by its architect to be implemented in Russia. Marx's intent was to create communism in Germany, because of its highly advanced industrial base and opportunity for workers to be fully employed. Russia was a backward, primitive rural based economy with little industry for worker's to be engaged in. Hitler was well aware that socialism in Germany was the way forward, and to be fair, the country prospered. But the workers were utterly separated from governance.
The Marxist centrally controlled and planned economic model was adopted by Hitler, to much better effect than it was by Lenin, who was hampered by a country far behind the modern world.
The Communists of today are very different to those of the past. Their perception of the ideology means eradicating borders, merging all races together to create a bland, brown, mixed mono race and the removal of private property. Also everyone would be on the same wage, so for instance a doctor and road sweeper would earn the same amount. Madness.......
As for National Socialism, it is essentially 'uber' nationalism where the white race is put above all else and Jewish usury is outlawed, along with all the other Jewish/leftist cancers which we have been inflicted with. Cultural Marxism for instance would be one of the first agendas banned and it's promoters imprisoned. In a nutshell, the Jewish sphere of influence would be crushed, and the media, finance, government and academia would be no longer heavily influenced and controlled by a foreign parasite. Does it honestly sound so bad to you?
And communism would eradicate the aristocracy, the bourgesoise, capitalists, counter revolutionaries, revisionists, and elitists (except, of course, the ruling class).
Every extreme movement has to have its bogeymen. Its how the garner support from the underclass. Hitler demonised the jews to galvanise German support for his lunacy.
Nothing new. Every megalomaniac and demagogue uses the same technique.
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The Communists of today are very different to those of the past. Their perception of the ideology means eradicating borders, merging all races together to create a bland, brown, mixed mono race and the removal of private property. Also everyone would be on the same wage, so for instance a doctor and road sweeper would earn the same amount. Madness.......
As for National Socialism, it is essentially 'uber' nationalism where the white race is put above all else and Jewish usury is outlawed, along with all the other Jewish/leftist cancers which we have been inflicted with. Cultural Marxism for instance would be one of the first agendas banned and it's promoters imprisoned. In a nutshell, the Jewish sphere of influence would be crushed, and the media, finance, government and academia would be no longer heavily influenced and controlled by a foreign parasite. Does it honestly sound so bad to you?
All parties evolve over time you moron. The Democrats are no longer the party of Jim Crow. Modern socialists have betrayed the labour movement. Conservatives today in Canada and the UK are further left than socialists in the mid 90's
Communism and fascism/national socialism were nearly identical. If you love dictators so much wo aren't spurious, than I suggest than you read about Francisco Franco or Augusto Pinochet. Than again, if you too fucking lazy and stupid to absorb anything about your favourite dead dictator, why would you read nationalist dictators who weren't reds.
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Every extreme movement has to have its bogeymen. Its how the garner support from the underclass. Hitler demonised the jews to galvanise German support for his lunacy.
Nothing new. Every megalomaniac and demagogue uses the same technique.
Stalin and Hitler demonized the same groups. Ethnic minorities, clergy, farmers who refuse collectivization, and any all opoosition.
Its the hallmark of any political dictatorship.
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The Communists of today are very different to those of the past. Their perception of the ideology means eradicating borders, merging all races together to create a bland, brown, mixed mono race and the removal of private property. Also everyone would be on the same wage, so for instance a doctor and road sweeper would earn the same amount. Madness.......
As for National Socialism, it is essentially 'uber' nationalism where the white race is put above all else and Jewish usury is outlawed, along with all the other Jewish/leftist cancers which we have been inflicted with. Cultural Marxism for instance would be one of the first agendas banned and it's promoters imprisoned. In a nutshell, the Jewish sphere of influence would be crushed, and the media, finance, government and academia would be no longer heavily influenced and controlled by a foreign parasite. Does it honestly sound so bad to you?
All parties evolve over time you moron. The Democrats are no longer the party of Jim Crow. Modern socialists have betrayed the labour movement. Conservatives today in Canada and the UK are further left than socialists in the mid 90's
Communism and fascism/national socialism were nearly identical. If you love dictators so much wo aren't spurious, than I suggest than you read about Francisco Franco or Augusto Pinochet. Than again, if you too fucking lazy and stupid to absorb anything about your favourite dead dictator, why would you read nationalist dictators who weren't reds.
You got sand in that mangina of yours again huh little fella? :laugh3:
Ok genius so if Communism and National Socialism were so similar, why did one advocate an Aryan Europe free from racial mixing with the third world and the other encouraged it? I have seen examples of Jewish Communists encouraging white women to race mix with blacks in the 1950's at 'tolerance carnivals' or something named equally as hilarious.... It will probably be buried on Google somewhere if you don't believe me.
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Every extreme movement has to have its bogeymen. Its how the garner support from the underclass. Hitler demonised the jews to galvanise German support for his lunacy.
Nothing new. Every megalomaniac and demagogue uses the same technique.
Ruling class = Jewish elites.
Remember what happened to the Russian Czar at the hands of the Bolsheviks?
As you no doubt already know most of the agitators and upper echelons of the Communist movement back then were Jews.
And many of Hitler's inner circle were Lutherans.
Nonetheless its true that MOST of Lenin's close confidants were Russian jews, who bore considerable contempt against other tribes who had marginalised them for centuries and saw an opportunity for vengeance.
"Antisemitism in the Russian Empire existed both culturally and institutionally. The Jews were restricted to live within the Pale of Settlement,[11] and suffered pogroms.[12][13] Between 1881 and 1920, more than two million Jews left Russia.[14]
As a result, many Jews supported gradual or revolutionary changes within the Russian Empire. Those movements ranged from the far left (Jewish Anarchism,[15] Bundists, Bolsheviks, Mensheviks[16]) to moderate left (Trudoviks[17]) and constitutionalist (Constitutional Democrats[18]) parties. On the eve of the February Revolution in 1917, of about 23,000 members of the Bolshevik party 364 (about 1.6%) were known to be ethnic Jews.[14] According to the 1922 Bolshevik party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total, and in the 1920s of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews.[19] Between 1936 and 1940, during the Great Purge, Yezhovshchina and after the rapprochement with Nazi Germany, Stalin had largely eliminated Jews from senior party, government, diplomatic, security and military positions"
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Scouse doesn't know anything about politics.
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Nonetheless its true that MOST of Lenin's close confidants were Russian jews, who bore considerable contempt against other tribes who had marginalised them for centuries and saw an opportunity for vengeance.
"Antisemitism in the Russian Empire existed both culturally and institutionally. The Jews were restricted to live within the Pale of Settlement,[11] and suffered pogroms.[12][13] Between 1881 and 1920, more than two million Jews left Russia.[14]
As a result, many Jews supported gradual or revolutionary changes within the Russian Empire. Those movements ranged from the far left (Jewish Anarchism,[15] Bundists, Bolsheviks, Mensheviks[16]) to moderate left (Trudoviks[17]) and constitutionalist (Constitutional Democrats[18]) parties. On the eve of the February Revolution in 1917, of about 23,000 members of the Bolshevik party 364 (about 1.6%) were known to be ethnic Jews.[14] According to the 1922 Bolshevik party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total, and in the 1920s of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews.[19] Between 1936 and 1940, during the Great Purge, Yezhovshchina and after the rapprochement with Nazi Germany, Stalin had largely eliminated Jews from senior party, government, diplomatic, security and military positions"
Stalin was not an enemy of the Jews, which is why they did not go after him like they did with Hitler. Hitler wanted rid of their influence and most importantly their banking racket, which if he had succeeded would most likely have caused a snowball effect around the globe, meaning that they could no longer bleed countries dry by lending governments money with extortionate rates of interest.
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Scouse doesn't know anything about politics.
Sure I don't, it's just that you work yourself up into a frenzy anytime Jews are criticised for some bizarre reason known only to yourself. :001_rolleyes:
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Stalin was not an enemy of the Jews
I think you mean Lenin.
Lenin realised Jewish support was crucial to the revolution.
Stalin realised that Jews were then too influential and had them all shot.
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Stalin was not an enemy of the Jews
I think you mean Lenin.
Lenin realised Jewish support was crucial to the revolution.
Stalin realised that Jews were then too influential and had them all shot.
Hmm perhaps he wasn't such a bad fella after all!
Well, he outscored Hitler in the "Extermination" game by about 3 to 1.
And yet, all we ever hear about is how bad and evil Hitler was.
Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
I am in Canada because of Stalin. He was a thug dictator just like Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Idi Amin.
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
Seriously? I think its well accepted that Stalin was as evil as Hitler.
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
Seriously? I think its well accepted that Stalin was as evil as Hitler.
Ask the average person in the street who they think is the epitome of evil out of the two, I guarantee the vast majority of them will say Hitler.
Hollywood hasn't exactly been as keen on making movies demonizing Stalin and the Red army like they have with National Socialist Germany.
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
I am in Canada because of Stalin. He was a thug dictator just like Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Idi Amin.
Yeah, the Holodomor made the Holocaust look like a child's picnic.
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
Seriously? I think its well accepted that Stalin was as evil as Hitler.
Ask the average person in the street who they think is the epitome of evil out of the two, I guarantee the vast majority of them will say Hitler.
Hollywood hasn't exactly been as keen on making movies demonizing Stalin and the Red army like they have with National Socialist Germany.
Who the hell cares about the shit Hollywood produces. Their job is to entertain.
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
I am in Canada because of Stalin. He was a thug dictator just like Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Idi Amin.
Yeah, the Holodomor made the Holocaust look like a child's picnic.
That's a stupid thing to say. If someone lost family due to Stalin's purges, the holocaust, the culural revolution, the killing fields in Cambodia or the hundred thousand plus peolle killed by Idi Amin during his eight year of terror, they are all evil. Defending a brutal dictator is really ignorant. There were some dictators in the twenteth century who were somewhat benevolent, but those four megalomaniacs were not.
What a frickin tool the nazi cultist is
He actually thinks because there were other killers as well as the guy who set out to kill and take over Europe resulting in 10s of millions dead, that H is Ok ... fkkkkkkkkkkk
I wondered how long it would be until the resident Zionist read this thread and voiced her usual hysterical spiel. :laugh:
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Funny that isn't it? ac_umm
I am in Canada because of Stalin. He was a thug dictator just like Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Idi Amin.
Yeah, the Holodomor made the Holocaust look like a child's picnic.
That's a stupid thing to say. If someone lost family due to Stalin's purges, the holocaust, the culural revolution, the killing fields in Cambodia or the hundred thousand plus peolle killed by Idi Amin during his eight year of terror, they are all evil. Defending a brutal dictator is really ignorant. There were some dictators in the twenteth century who were somewhat benevolent, but those four megalomaniacs were not.
How about if the Jews hadn't whipped up the anti-German hysteria and manipulated countries to oppose Hitler? There wouldn't have been anywhere near as many deaths....
Everyone also forgets the fact that if the National Socialists hadn't opposed Communism, it's highly likely that Stalin would have conquered western Europe aswell as the East.
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He actually thinks because there were other killers as well as the guy who set out to kill and take over Europe resulting in 10s of millions dead, that H is Ok ... fkkkkkkkkkkk
Scouse would have had a very hard life and he would be expendable under a Hitler regime....life was cheap..
It's too bad Priscilla is not a little more comfortable with English..
Although she was only a teenager at the time, she knows the horror of living under the kind of tyranny that SCOUSE romanticizes.