Title: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Bricktop on March 12, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 12, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
This is why "democracy" will go no further.
Other nations see it for what it is. A massive scam on the people of so called "democratic" nations who think the right to vote means we control our governments.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:16:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:16:40 PM
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
But, once Taiwan democratized, my late father lost interest in Taiwanese politics over time..
He felt the same way about politics here too.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 01:46:00 AM
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 01:46:00 AM
Edit. Nm found it on youtube.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 01:53:28 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 01:53:28 AM
Democracy was not designed for the information age.Quote from: "seoulbro"
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 01:58:10 AM
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2018, 01:58:10 AM
The information age is merely accelerating the breakdown of limited democracy and fueling authoritarian policies.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 03:38:19 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 03:38:19 AM
The more we know, the more they try to control.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Aryan on March 13, 2018, 07:13:59 AM
Post by: Aryan on March 13, 2018, 07:13:59 AM
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:59:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:59:17 AM
Can't disagree.Quote from: "Bricktop"
The more we know, the more they try to control.
Can you suggest any changes?
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Aryan on March 13, 2018, 08:09:14 AM
Post by: Aryan on March 13, 2018, 08:09:14 AM
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 08:11:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 08:11:23 AM
Me, I'd do a better job!Quote from: "SCOUSE"
How would you reform democracy?
Taiwan has the same malaise as the West.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Aryan on March 13, 2018, 08:23:19 AM
Post by: Aryan on March 13, 2018, 08:23:19 AM
The council for example often puts rehousing foreigners before people who have been born and bred here, which is wrong.
Immigrants would not be able to claim benefits of any sort, only when they have paid into the system for 5 years.
Minimum wage would be increased to around £9 or £10 an hour so that people on benefits have more of an incentive to work.
The borders would be closed to immigrants for at least 2 years while the current mess is sorted out, as we have literally hundreds of thousands of illegals here which need rounding up and deporting.
All immigrants who commit crime here would be deported to their native countries immediately, not imprisoned at the expense of the taxpayer.
Oh and we would stick 2 fingers up at the EU and leave without giving them a penny.....
I think I'm gonna be adding to and editing this post quite a lot.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:16:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:16:02 PM
Where in England? I'd enforce policies which put native Brits before immigrants.Quote from: "SCOUSE"
The council for example often puts rehousing foreigners before people who have been born and bred here, which is wrong.
Immigrants would not be able to claim benefits of any sort, only when they have paid into the system for 5 years.
Minimum wage would be increased to around £9 or £10 an hour so that people on benefits have more of an incentive to work.
The borders would be closed to immigrants for at least 2 years while the current mess is sorted out, as we have literally hundreds of thousands of illegals here which need rounding up and deporting.
All immigrants who commit crime here would be deported to their native countries immediately, not imprisoned at the expense of the taxpayer.
Oh and we would stick 2 fingers up at the EU and leave without giving them a penny.....
I think I'm gonna be adding to and editing this post quite a lot.ac_biggrin
But, that's policy reform, not democratic reform.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 07:26:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 07:26:38 PM
Firstly, we adopt the Swiss system of plebiscites for decisions that have a significant impact on society, such as tax, defence, and social policy.
Second, political aspirants MUST provide a detailed budget plan before the election. If elected they must not deviate from that plan without apporval by the plebiscite.
Thirdly, it is forbidden to influence or attempt to influence an elected member in how they intend to vote on parliamentary decisions and bills. This includes political parties forcing its members into voting along party lines or risk being removed from the party.
Other measures will include recall elections if an elected member fails to perform his duty correctly, or has acted in a way which discredits the Parliament or nation. Ministers must be approved by the plebisicte, and nominated during the election process, as well as the budget.
Lately, I'm becomng more and more enamored with abandoning the adversarial form of "democracy" we are burdened with. Parliament should be scrapped altogether. Once a government is elected, they simply get on with the job, rather than engage in the childish and embarrassing ritual of parliamentary debate.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
I've said this a few times.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Firstly, we adopt the Swiss system of plebiscites for decisions that have a significant impact on society, such as tax, defence, and social policy.
Second, political aspirants MUST provide a detailed budget plan before the election. If elected they must not deviate from that plan without apporval by the plebiscite.
Thirdly, it is forbidden to influence or attempt to influence an elected member in how they intend to vote on parliamentary decisions and bills. This includes political parties forcing its members into voting along party lines or risk being removed from the party.
Other measures will include recall elections if an elected member fails to perform his duty correctly, or has acted in a way which discredits the Parliament or nation. Ministers must be approved by the plebisicte, and nominated during the election process, as well as the budget.
Lately, I'm becomng more and more enamored with abandoning the adversarial form of "democracy" we are burdened with. Parliament should be scrapped altogether. Once a government is elected, they simply get on with the job, rather than engage in the childish and embarrassing ritual of parliamentary debate.
Some interesting democratic reform proposals Bricktop..
Some I have heard before and some for the first time.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 07:38:12 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 13, 2018, 07:38:12 PM
This current system is failing us.
We can and must do better.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 11:14:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2018, 11:14:13 PM
I've said this a few times.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Firstly, we adopt the Swiss system of plebiscites for decisions that have a significant impact on society, such as tax, defence, and social policy.
Second, political aspirants MUST provide a detailed budget plan before the election. If elected they must not deviate from that plan without apporval by the plebiscite.
Thirdly, it is forbidden to influence or attempt to influence an elected member in how they intend to vote on parliamentary decisions and bills. This includes political parties forcing its members into voting along party lines or risk being removed from the party.
Other measures will include recall elections if an elected member fails to perform his duty correctly, or has acted in a way which discredits the Parliament or nation. Ministers must be approved by the plebisicte, and nominated during the election process, as well as the budget.
Lately, I'm becomng more and more enamored with abandoning the adversarial form of "democracy" we are burdened with. Parliament should be scrapped altogether. Once a government is elected, they simply get on with the job, rather than engage in the childish and embarrassing ritual of parliamentary debate.
I like most of them. Justine would be gone if these were the law of the land.
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 14, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 14, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
Although I don't always trust the public, I trust them more than I do politicians (at least most of the time.)
Title: Re: Cold, hard truth from Putin.
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
I would definitely like to see more direct democracy, instead of representative democracy.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Although I don't always trust the public, I trust them more than I do politicians (at least most of the time.)
Big money progtards would use their wealth to buy the result they want. In my province, the government made modest cuts to get to a balanced budget. Everywhere you look you see billboards calling the tiny cuts draconian. Same with the media and social media. Big money progtards control the public.