https://youtu.be/pj5phHP7_DU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFlCD5CYAcU
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Mel's gone.
Apparently Renee advised him to leave.
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Apparently Renee advised him to leave.
Mel thinks he's being treated unfairly because he lost his edit privileges..
Of course he did nothing to have his edit privileges taken away.....he's being treated unfairly.
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Mel is gone because he has been caught out lying about the legality of his firearm possession. He possesses an illegal firearm and knife. He is a dangerous man.
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I believe his firearms are legal.
If he has permit(s) for range use, he's be legal
I love the Polish Hangover
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He must belong to a bona fide gun club...and that requires certain conditions and restrictions which he clearly does not comply with.
He has admitted he does not belong to any such club but he MAY have done years ago.
He is in breach of Canadian gun control laws.
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He must belong to a bona fide gun club...and that requires certain conditions and restrictions which he clearly does not comply with.
He has admitted he does not belong to any such club but he MAY have done years ago.
He is in breach of Canadian gun control laws.
I believe Mel has a restricted PAL to own handguns.
By my reading of your laws, you simply cannot own a handgun for no reason. You must have a lawful reason...and one of those is you belong to a bona fide gun club. The others relate to security and self defence and they are very difficult to qualify for.
Mel has admitted he does not belong to a gun club.
There are also significant restrictions on the transport of firearms...so constraining that it is better to store your firearm at the gun club rather than transport it yourself.
I have posted these details elsewhere. But it is not hard to verify.
Mel has no legal grounds on which he can legally own a revolver. None.
Also note that he claimed his flick knife was legal. It is not, as I've also established and posted here.
These self professed mentally ill alcoholic sociopath should NOT be in possession of ANY firearm. I remind you that he also claimed at one point that he was going to commit suicide with his shotgun.
If he was in Australia, he would have nothing but a water pistol in his possession.
You don't need a reason to get your restricted. I can't get one because of my rap sheet. If I had a clean slate, I would have handguns.
At the risk of repetition...
"Restricted firearms
To purchase a handgun or other restricted firearm, a person must have a restricted possession and acquisition licence (RPAL) for restricted firearms.
Canada's federal laws severely restrict the ability of civilians to transport restricted or prohibited (grandfathered) firearms in public. Section 17 of the Firearms Act makes it an offence to possess prohibited or restricted firearms other than at a dwelling-house or authorized location, but there are two exceptions to this prohibition found in sections 19 and 20 of the act. Section 19 allows for persons to be issued an authorization to transport, or ATT, authorizing the transport of a firearm outside the home for certain purposes, such as for its transfer to a new owner, going to and from a range, a training course, repair shop or gun show, or when the owner wishes to change the address where the firearm is stored. Such firearms must be transported unloaded, equipped with a trigger lock and stored in secure, locked containers. "
and...
"There are a few purposes for which individuals can be licensed to acquire or possess a restricted firearm, the most common being target practice or target shooting competitions, or as part of a collection.
In limited circumstances, restricted firearms are also allowed for use in connection with one's lawful profession or occupation, or to protect life."
and...
"To be authorized to have restricted firearms for target shooting purposes, an individual must provide proof that he or she practices or competes at an approved shooting club or range. For more information about approved shooting clubs and ranges, contact the appropriate provincial or territorial CFO by calling 1-800-731-4000."
Show me where I'm wrong. Mel has stated quite clearly he is not a member of a club or range.
But, as I said, we weed out handgun owners with the RCMP checks for a restricted PAL. If I had that, I could have handguns. Transporting them is easy.
As for reasons, here's the application form from the RCMP for a restricted PAL. You do not need any special reason to own handguns. But, you have to satisfy the feds you won't be a danger to anyone. Which is why they ask about former conjugal partners.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/form-formulaire/pdfs/5592-eng.pdf
I can only report what I read.
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You're a fucking idiot, and read and understand nothing.
I have tried and tried, as have others here, but you still remain an idiot.
You are actually just as much as an idiot that Oscar Meyer is, and he is a complete idiot.
You repeat the same things over and over, and when people here that actually dislike me correct YOU, you still repeat the same shit over and over.
You have a mental illness that no amount of communication can fix.
You are just lucky that Fash is as dumb as you, and lets you continue on with your broken record, over and over again.
Brick? When CC and Herman, both who dislike me, tell you something... Maybe just shut the fuck up and listen to them.
I don't care what anyone else says.
YOU are illegally in possession of a restricted firearm.
And an illegal knife.
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YOU are illegally in possession of a restricted firearm.
And an illegal knife.
I'm not sure about the knife, but I have no reason to believe Mel doesn't have a license to own handguns.
Owning a licence is insufficient.
You must also belong to a registered gun club, and comply with transportation regulations. Look for yourselves!!!
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You must also belong to a registered gun club, and comply with transportation regulations. Look for yourselves!!!
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That is a prerequisite when you initially apply, and generally a prerequisite when new restricted firearms are transferred into ones name.
I think it was asked and answered. He is and has been.
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You must also belong to a registered gun club, and comply with transportation regulations. Look for yourselves!!!
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That is a prerequisite when you initially apply, and generally a prerequisite when new restricted firearms are transferred into ones name.
I think it was asked and answered. He is and has been.
Yes, it's been answered.
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You must also belong to a registered gun club, and comply with transportation regulations. Look for yourselves!!!
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That is a prerequisite when you initially apply, and generally a prerequisite when new restricted firearms are transferred into ones name.
I think it was asked and answered. He is and has been.
If you're going to join in, at least quote in context, and not selectively. You seem to have missed this bit; "I go to various ranges as a drop-in, and that in itself should be good enough."
I think that clearly corroborates the fact he does not belong to a registered club. Nor, on my reading, does it satisfy Canadian law. But, by all means, show me where the law differs from my understanding. His interpretation that lapsed membership does not nullify legal ownership must only mean that membership is not compulsory. Put another way, buy a handgun, join a gun club then let the membership lapse and you're all legal?
That's a rather strange law.
I repeat, for those who either don't read, can't read or choose to read only what they want to read, Mel is NOT a member of a gun club. By MY reading of Canadian law as it pertains to both gun ownership AND gun transportation requirements, he is in breach, and any breach renders the possession of the firearm unlawful.
Now, prove me wrong.
Since he can only buy it if his paperwork is correct and license intact then it must mean he legally owns it. Not living in Canada I don't know the exact specifics of joining a range/club but there are no restrictions on how many ranges/clubs you can belong too. If you go to a club you don't belong to I imagine all you have to do is pay a small fee and sign a membership form to be allowed to shoot there. I did prove you wrong when I put in bold his direct answer to your question of whether or not he belonged to a range/club. He said YES. You asked the question, he answered it, you refused to accept his answer. You refusing to accept his answer does not make you right. It seems the greatest majority (Canadians) that are involved in this discussion have accepted his answers for legally owning a handgun in Canada. If his own people are accepting his answer based on everything he has said who are you to argue the point. Unless you have access to Canadian government and private gun range databases you can't prove him wrong.
Senility would appear to be negatively impacting on your ability to read.
Your lack of experience with law is impacting on your ability to understand.
Are you claiming that if he procures a licence for a firearm that is subject to certain conditions, and yet if he fails to meet those conditions his licence remains valid? I have indicated that by his own admission he is not a member of a gun club, and just "drops in" from time to time to test his aim. IF you had any knowledge of law, American, Canadian, Australian or Abyssinian, you would know that law must be interpreted "as Parliament intended".
I doubt that even a Trudeau led Canadian Parliament would create a law regulating the use and possession of a certain type of firearm, but if you don't comply with those regulations, well, that's OK.
That may fly in your dysfunctional, chaotic, fragmenting country, but it doesn't in nations that still respect the rule of law.
If Mel carries that firearm in his car, he will be guilty of an offence.
Bearing in mind we are dicussing a mentally disturbed, alcoholic sociopath, I would have thought you would accept the fact that his possession of unlawful weapons is a matter of concern.
Perhaps you did not read, or refused to comprehend his statement. Let me try to make it clear, although I doubt it will help your comprehension skills. Put your glasses on and pay attention to what is bold and enlarged.
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[size=150]Are you a member of a pistol club?[/size]
That is a prerequisite when you initially apply, and generally a prerequisite when new restricted firearms are transferred into ones name.
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I don't know how you could interpret it any other way. And you call me senile. hahahahahahaha
Then what is the meaning of this, you senile old coot.
"I go to various ranges as a drop-in, and that in itself should be good enough."
He does not claim to be a member. He states he goes to these places on an ad hoc basis and it SHOULD be good enough. No. It is NOT good enough, according to their laws.
And when you find your reading glasses, please address the very tight controls on the TRANSPORTATION of firearms that compels MOST gun club owners to store their firearms on club premises. Mel has never addressed this.
Learn to read, or learn to leave.
You are the one lacking comprehension here not me. As far as transport, you did not ask that question directly but instead fired off an insult which derailed the subject and indicated you did not want to discuss further. Here you simply stated that he was breaking the transport law.
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Once the transfer is completed, You will have to wait until the CFO sends the registration to yourself and the seller, at that time they (the CFO) will also issue a Short Term Authorization to Transport (STATT), this will allow you to transport the firearm from the store to your house. You can now take your gun home.
After you have the STATT, you can get a Long Term Authorization to Transport (LTATT) - A long term ATT covers you for multiple trips to a range or gun club.
It sounds like a lot, but once you have a restricted PAL, the rest is a formality.
As of Sept. 2, 2015, most ATT's are 'automatic.' They simplified this process, thankfully.
The way it works now, is that a restricted endorsement automatically gives you the 'authority to transport' to your home, to every shooting club in the country, to ports of entry, to gunsmiths, and to buyers/sellers.
I know how it used to be... Every move had to be 'approved.'
Since all moves were always approved anyhow, as long as one has the restricted endorsement, the ATT is now automatic.
Once the CFO approves the transfer, the seller gives it to you, and there's nothing more that you have to do.
He has stated he has a restricted firearm license and belongs to a gun club. Those are the only facts pertaining to this. Until Mel states
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Them Poles are Drunk bastards .
Nice UL SWEATY BERRY . :laugh:
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No. He has stated he "used" to belong to a gun club, and that he now just "drops in".
You know this, yet still want to be Mel's mouthpiece.
Birds of a feather, as I've always stated.
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Having just read this back and forth between AGW and Bricktop you would be correct and so is AGW.
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Nope! I am illegal!
FASH! Make him illegal!
FASH! MAKE HIM ILLEGAL NOW!
I know the laws! I was a cop in Australia! Fash, if you don't, I have the power to arrest him!
Fash will fawn over Bricktop just like Real Woman did.
The end result is the same. Nothing good.
Bricktop is forum cancer, only ever meant to destroy. He has proven this time and time again.
He is no different than Oscar Mayer... A bitter old man, and nothing more.
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Nope! I am illegal!
FASH! Make him illegal!
FASH! MAKE HIM ILLEGAL NOW!
I know the laws! I was a cop in Australia! Fash, if you don't, I have the power to arrest him!
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The end result is the same. Nothing good.
Bricktop is forum cancer, only ever meant to destroy. He has proven this time and time again.
He is no different than Oscar Mayer... A bitter old man, and nothing more.
How many times is this you've gone for good?
You can't help yourself, can you, corky.