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Title: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
As you know the words Christian Corner have been added to the title..



Nothing has changed at all other than I feel a little more comfortable discussing my faith now..



I know Shen Li is hostile towards "religion" and I did not want to appear as though I was spamming the board when she was moderator.



If anyone has any ideas please let me know about them.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 12:13:03 PM
I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
I want to change our Taoist symbol..



These are some of the possibilities..

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(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TkKZZyzUvio/Ss0hRVDhgLI/AAAAAAAADUA/RrpmOHb8aDQ/s400/Bible+light.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TkKZZyzUvio/S%20...%20+light.jpg%22%3Ehttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TkKZZyzUvio/Ss0hRVDhgLI/AAAAAAAADUA/RrpmOHb8aDQ/s400/Bible+light.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qJbnwRXa0yc/Th4k7W4OlhI/AAAAAAAAACQ/rK5XMjgTvVQ/s1600/Bible-love.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qJbnwRXa0yc/T%20...%20e-love.jpg%22%3Ehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qJbnwRXa0yc/Th4k7W4OlhI/AAAAAAAAACQ/rK5XMjgTvVQ/s1600/Bible-love.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.eewc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/BibleBirds-300x297.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.eewc.com/wp-content/uploads/%20...%2000x297.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.eewc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/BibleBirds-300x297.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Ms.Min on July 27, 2013, 02:11:15 PM
lovely:)



i tend to like the one with the heart the most but they are all pretty.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
Fash, you replace that symbol and I will break your fuckin face. Just kiddin :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 27, 2013, 03:16:06 PM
i'm Buddhist
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"i'm Buddhist

I'm an atheist who was born Buddhist.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
Psalm 109:25



I am an object of scorn to my accusers; when they see me, they shake their heads.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Romero on July 27, 2013, 04:43:47 PM
Good luck, Fash!



I also like the Bible heart graphic the most.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2013, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: "Romero"Good luck, Fash!



I also like the Bible heart graphic the most.

As far as I'm concerned it is still an Asian themed community despite what one bible thumper thinks. :x
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 27, 2013, 07:32:24 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"i'm Buddhist

I'm an atheist who was born Buddhist.


i raised in a buddhist's house too, my mon is a big fan of buddhism
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on July 28, 2013, 07:04:21 AM
this is a REAL nutty idea
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on July 28, 2013, 07:06:35 AM
This will go over well...let's see calling Sharlee!!! Registered guest!!!! Ryanmissimo!!!!! Frosty !!!!...oh wait a minute that's "Our Forum" and this is/was a different forum.........my mistake....lordy lordy lordy
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on July 28, 2013, 07:08:17 AM
less than a minute later.....i still think this is a nutty nutty idea
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 08:40:51 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"this is a REAL nutty idea

It is a dumb idea, but what has really changed? Zero, nadda, fuck all. I say let Fash have her little thread where she talks her Jesus horseshit and everyone else can avoid it.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: keeper on July 28, 2013, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"this is a REAL nutty idea

It is a dumb idea, but what has really changed? Zero, nadda, fuck all. I say let Fash have her little thread where she talks her Jesus horseshit and everyone else can avoid it.


Someone needs to give you a happy hug there women



I little faith goes a long way Shen, Dont have to tell no one. (our lil secret)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"this is a REAL nutty idea

It is a dumb idea, but what has really changed? Zero, nadda, fuck all. I say let Fash have her little thread where she talks her Jesus horseshit and everyone else can avoid it.


Someone needs to give you a happy hug there women



I little faith goes a long way Shen, Dont have to tell no one. (our lil secret)

I disagree about faith, but I will take the hug though.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 03:33:13 PM
Today's sermon was about the miracle of grace with Mark 2, 1-12 as reference..



It help us understand that God is in the work of making all of our lives whole in soul and body.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 28, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was about the miracle of grace with Mark 2, 1-12 as reference..



It help us understand that God is in the work of making all of our lives whole in soul and body.


yes, i respect the principle of the god, but i don't think i will get help of the god when i'm in trouble.



all i can do for the god is to keep my soul pristine and benevolent
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was about the miracle of grace with Mark 2, 1-12 as reference..



It help us understand that God is in the work of making all of our lives whole in soul and body.


yes, i respect the principle of the god, but i don't think i will get help of the god when i'm in trouble.



all i can do for the god is to keep my soul pristine and benevolent

When one surrenders their life to Jesus we are never alone in difficult times..



Matthew 28:20 says Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 28, 2013, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was about the miracle of grace with Mark 2, 1-12 as reference..



It help us understand that God is in the work of making all of our lives whole in soul and body.


yes, i respect the principle of the god, but i don't think i will get help of the god when i'm in trouble.



all i can do for the god is to keep my soul pristine and benevolent

When one surrenders their life to Jesus we are never alone in difficult times..



Matthew 28:20 says Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."


nice, it sounds very attractive for me that "i am with u always" :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"


yes, i respect the principle of the god, but i don't think i will get help of the god when i'm in trouble.



all i can do for the god is to keep my soul pristine and benevolent

When one surrenders their life to Jesus we are never alone in difficult times..



Matthew 28:20 says Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."


nice, it sounds very attractive for me that "i am with u always" :lol:

When you receive Jesus as your Lord and saviour, the holy spirit dwells within you.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 28, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
When one surrenders their life to Jesus we are never alone in difficult times..



Matthew 28:20 says Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."


nice, it sounds very attractive for me that "i am with u always" :lol:

When you receive Jesus as your Lord and saviour, the holy spirit dwells within you.


my mom is used to tell me that buddhist is dwelling in our hearts and is helping us out of troubles when we devote all our spirits on contributing for his principle



but the fact is, so to speak, i didn't get out of troubles at least once even though that my car parked in a quiet neighborhood was towed at 7:30 in the morning,as one of those troubles.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 04:56:31 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"


nice, it sounds very attractive for me that "i am with u always" :lol:

When you receive Jesus as your Lord and saviour, the holy spirit dwells within you.


my mom is used to tell me that buddhist is dwelling in our hearts and is helping us out of troubles when we devote all our spirits on contributing for his principle



but the fact is, so to speak, i didn't get out of troubles at least once even though that my car parked in a quiet neighborhood was towed at 7:30 in the morning,as one of those troubles.

Buddha died about 2500 years ago..



Jesus rose from the dead.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 28, 2013, 06:07:58 PM
i didn't expect these both events had occurred in coincidence
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Laughing Out Loud on July 28, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.

Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.

Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?

I am Taiwanese not Chinese..



Are you questioning my salvation?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 28, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.

Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?

I am Taiwanese not Chinese..



Are you questioning my salvation?


no doubt of your salvation. at least i trust u ;)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 28, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.

Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?


what does "patriotic chinese christian" mean?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.

Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?


what does "patriotic chinese christian" mean?

I believe Lotus Leaf means officially sanctioned churches .
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?

I am Taiwanese not Chinese..



Are you questioning my salvation?


no doubt of your salvation. at least i trust u ;)

Thank you so much Jaysings..



You are so sweet.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Laughing Out Loud on July 28, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was raised in a Christian home, but I was more of a "church kid" than a person on fire for Christ..



Like many people who were raised in Christian homes I was riding my parents coattails..



I attended church youth groups and all my friends were from Christian homes, but I didn't really know what it was like to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ..



It wasn't until I was taking my administrative assistant courses in community college and waitressing in a Chinese restaurant that my faith grew..



Romans 2:12 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect



Before I graduated from high school I had never had to put my faith to the test.

Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?


what does "patriotic chinese christian" mean?

Places of nationalistic brainwashing that look like legitimate places of worship. The type of church Green Hornet would attend.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?


what does "patriotic chinese christian" mean?

Places of nationalistic brainwashing that look like legitimate places of worship. The type of church Green Hornet would attend.

I know some people from China that are real Christians.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: jaysings on July 29, 2013, 02:07:01 AM
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Are you a real Christian or are you another one of those "patriotic" Chinese Christians?


what does "patriotic chinese christian" mean?

Places of nationalistic brainwashing that look like legitimate places of worship. The type of church Green Hornet would attend.


oh i got u now
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2013, 07:51:59 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Quote from: "jaysings"


what does "patriotic chinese christian" mean?

Places of nationalistic brainwashing that look like legitimate places of worship. The type of church Green Hornet would attend.

I know some people from China that are real Christians.

The CCP is nervous about anything that could challenge their monopoly on power. This is why they insist on promoting cardionals and not the church in Rome. Same with any church/mosque they do not influence.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2013, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Lotus Leaf"
Places of nationalistic brainwashing that look like legitimate places of worship. The type of church Green Hornet would attend.

I know some people from China that are real Christians.

The CCP is nervous about anything that could challenge their monopoly on power. This is why they insist on promoting cardionals and not the church in Rome. Same with any church/mosque they do not influence.

I understand that Shen Li, but I have still met some biblically sound Christians from China.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I know some people from China that are real Christians.

The CCP is nervous about anything that could challenge their monopoly on power. This is why they insist on promoting cardionals and not the church in Rome. Same with any church/mosque they do not influence.

I understand that Shen Li, but I have still met some biblically sound Christians from China.

I don't doubt that you have. What I am saying is that they either became devout believers in Canada or attended underground churches. Foreign missionaries are in China, but they are not supposed to be proselytising.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2013, 07:18:08 AM
God plays to full houses in Korea. The church has a lot of influence there.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on July 31, 2013, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"God plays to full houses in Korea. The church has a lot of influence there.






yes..in Korea churches are private and are a huge moneymaking scam for the few that own them.......millions and millions from property, especially the Buddhist temples......funerals (crematoriums) are also a huge money maker
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"God plays to full houses in Korea. The church has a lot of influence there.






yes..in Korea churches are private and are a huge moneymaking scam for the few that own them.......millions and millions from property, especially the Buddhist temples......funerals (crematoriums) are also a huge money maker

What?? I am a devout atheist, but I didn't think any one person could own a church? A cult maybe, but not a church. I thought they were accountable to their denominations, deacons and their entire congregations?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2013, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"God plays to full houses in Korea. The church has a lot of influence there.






yes..in Korea churches are private and are a huge moneymaking scam for the few that own them.......millions and millions from property, especially the Buddhist temples......funerals (crematoriums) are also a huge money maker

Funerals are a business in Taiwan too Mr. Obvious Li..



I don't understand what you mean about churches being a huge moneymaking scam?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 01, 2013, 09:43:48 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"God plays to full houses in Korea. The church has a lot of influence there.






yes..in Korea churches are private and are a huge moneymaking scam for the few that own them.......millions and millions from property, especially the Buddhist temples......funerals (crematoriums) are also a huge money maker

Funerals are a business in Taiwan too Mr. Obvious Li..



I don't understand what you mean about churches being a huge moneymaking scam?




when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"






yes..in Korea churches are private and are a huge moneymaking scam for the few that own them.......millions and millions from property, especially the Buddhist temples......funerals (crematoriums) are also a huge money maker

Funerals are a business in Taiwan too Mr. Obvious Li..



I don't understand what you mean about churches being a huge moneymaking scam?




when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone

I don't understand that Mr. Obvious Li?



My pastor cannot sell any church property without approval from the church members..



We have a secretary, treasurer, auditor and a financial report issued quarterly..



Financial impropriety would be nearly impossible without someone catching it.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 02, 2013, 01:14:19 PM
This is interesting.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Time Flies on August 02, 2013, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Funerals are a business in Taiwan too Mr. Obvious Li..



I don't understand what you mean about churches being a huge moneymaking scam?




when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone

I don't understand that Mr. Obvious Li?



My pastor cannot sell any church property without approval from the church members..



We have a secretary, treasurer, auditor and a financial report issued quarterly..



Financial impropriety would be nearly impossible without someone catching it.

Let me guess, you go to an all white church? You are the token minority and they get you to wash the floors and clean the kitchen? They use your face in diversity photos to try and boost memberships.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 02, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Funerals are a business in Taiwan too Mr. Obvious Li..



I don't understand what you mean about churches being a huge moneymaking scam?




when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone

I don't understand that Mr. Obvious Li?



My pastor cannot sell any church property without approval from the church members..



We have a secretary, treasurer, auditor and a financial report issued quarterly..



Financial impropriety would be nearly impossible without someone catching it.




remember Korea was occupied until 1953 and then was occupied by the USA so the western concept of protestant churches is new....over there lots of people started their own churches and own the buildings, land etc.......worth millions of dollars...they live like kings
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2013, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




when i was there it seemed like every week there was another story in the papers about some church pastor or priest ripping off millions of dollars from a congregation or selling church property to real estate developers and pocketing the money.....believe me wherever there is money in Korea there is a scam artist working on stealing it.....strangest place i've ever seen......even though these people must know they will get caught they just can't help stealing....a friend and i went to a wine bar and drank a few bottles of nectar....he paid with his credit card.....once the transaction was approved the owner put through another 12 transactions totaling 20K on his card..........he kept billing until the card was maxed.....using his merchant number etc......i had 4k put on mine at one bar.....WTF they know the police will get them but they can't help themselves...dishonesty is part of the culture...seems like a huge generalization i know.....but it happened soooo often to me over there.....from everyone

I don't understand that Mr. Obvious Li?



My pastor cannot sell any church property without approval from the church members..



We have a secretary, treasurer, auditor and a financial report issued quarterly..



Financial impropriety would be nearly impossible without someone catching it.




remember Korea was occupied until 1953 and then was occupied by the USA so the western concept of protestant churches is new....over there lots of people started their own churches and own the buildings, land etc.......worth millions of dollars...they live like kings

That is very different from anything I have known in Calgary or Taiwan.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 03, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

It scares the hell out of me when people use religion to further their own fucking agendas.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 03, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
And the pope... I don´t like a man whom thinks himself as a second man to god.



My uncle said "I don´t think god really cares whether we belong to a pile of stones or not". He is kinda of a forest-finnish and likes spending his time in the woods. He wears old military field-outfit all the time.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2013, 05:39:58 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"And the pope... I don´t like a man whom thinks himself as a second man to god.



My uncle said "I don´t think god really cares whether we belong to a pile of stones or not". He is kinda of a forest-finnish and likes spending his time in the woods. He wears old military field-outfit all the time.

The Catholic church is irrelevant in the West and becoming that way in Latin America.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 03, 2013, 05:41:57 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

It scares the hell out of me when people use religion to further their own fucking agendas.


The bible teaches greed is a sin. Trying to gain power by chasing the minister position or a bishops position is greed and therefor a sin in my opinion.

Catholic church is full of pedophiles and the leaders are living in great wealth.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2013, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our lutherin church is losing its supporters by the masses because of the moronic comments made by one of politicians.

The head of the christian-democratic party is a woman and she continuously keeps making stupid comments... The latest one was that people should follow the bible rather than our laws.



If you follow the bible (I mean the whole thing) literally, this land is going turn into obressive woman hating moslim land.

And she said also that the bible forbids homosexuals. Some1 followed her with a comment that bible also forbids long hair on men. Her son has a long curly hair.



And one of her minions said that we should not join religion and politics... Ummm "CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRATS".



This is woman is the minister of interior and head of the police force. She used her power to start an investigation on her woman friends daughters stolen bicycle. Bikes are stolen all the time and the police has better things to do. That is corruption in my opinion.



Our church is wealthy and yet very little of it goes to actually being a good christian and helping people.

It scares the hell out of me when people use religion to further their own fucking agendas.


The bible teaches greed is a sin. Trying to gain power by chasing the minister position or a bishops position is greed and therefor a sin in my opinion.

Catholic church is full of pedophiles and the leaders are living in great wealth.

It's one sick institution IMHO.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 03, 2013, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"And the pope... I don´t like a man whom thinks himself as a second man to god.



My uncle said "I don´t think god really cares whether we belong to a pile of stones or not". He is kinda of a forest-finnish and likes spending his time in the woods. He wears old military field-outfit all the time.

The Catholic church is irrelevant in the West and becoming that way in Latin America.


It still has over a billion followers.



Every year the vatican fills up with millions of followers whom bow down to the pope.

I don´t know why they are showing that drooling old man in our TV. We are protestants so we hate the pope.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Green_Hornet on August 03, 2013, 06:55:44 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681


Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 03, 2013, 07:08:46 PM
Quote from: "Green_Hornet"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681


Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.


What the...

That´s all I need to say.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: "Green_Hornet"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681


Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

I wish I wish I was wrong Green_Hornet, but you you desparately need psychological counselling and medication.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859



You make it difficult, but we are commanded to not only love those that love us first.



2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will
.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2013, 12:28:44 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Green_Hornet"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Good luck with that because you will need it..

Nobody takes anyone as mentally ill as you are seriously.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859&p=16681&hilit=mentally#p16681


Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

I wish I wish I was wrong Green_Hornet, but you you desparately need psychological counselling and medication.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859



You make it difficult, but we are commanded to not only love those that love us first.



2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will
.


This whole thread reminds me of story of Paul.



"I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life." (1 Timothy 1:16)



Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2013, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: "Charles"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Green_Hornet"


Some bible quotes about your continuous spam lying Fashionista:

 Proverbs 19:5

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.



 Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.



 Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

I wish I wish I was wrong Green_Hornet, but you you desparately need psychological counselling and medication.

http://memebee.com/asiancanadian/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=859



You make it difficult, but we are commanded to not only love those that love us first.



2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will
.


This whole thread reminds me of story of Paul.



"I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life." (1 Timothy 1:16)



Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.

Hello Charles and welcome..

 :)

If you keep reading you will find:

And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.

Luke 2:39



As we all know, the applicable law of the Lord at the time of Jesus's birth was the Old Testament..



We find the applicable law here:

9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.

10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Genesis 17:9-14



If Jesus had not been circumcised, he would have broken God's covenant..



This would have cast him out from the people and he would not have been seen as the Messiah..



I hope this helps to explain it for you Charles.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2013, 03:11:55 PM
Today's sermon was love must be sincere with  Romans 12:9-12:13 as reference..



If we want to learn how to love people we just need to read about the life of Christ in the gospel accounts..



If all people of the world would just look to Jesus they would know what genuine love is and also know how to demonstrate it.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 11, 2013, 03:32:55 PM
Oh yes it´s sunday.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 11, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was love must be sincere with  Romans 12:9-12:13 as reference..



If we want to learn how to love people we just need to read about the life of Christ in the gospel accounts..



If all people of the world would just look to Jesus they would know what genuine love is and also know how to demonstrate it.






Fashionista.....i think you are one of the nicest people i have ever met (at least we have met here)...i respect your dedication and commitment to your faith...i truly do.....it is an inspiration to all who know you i am sure.......i live a little more in the gray area of religious dogma.......i am counting on being able to repent for a life time of sins in the last 3 seconds i am alive.....wish me luck...that's cutting it pretty close... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2013, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was love must be sincere with  Romans 12:9-12:13 as reference..



If we want to learn how to love people we just need to read about the life of Christ in the gospel accounts..



If all people of the world would just look to Jesus they would know what genuine love is and also know how to demonstrate it.






Fashionista.....i think you are one of the nicest people i have ever met (at least we have met here)...i respect your dedication and commitment to your faith...i truly do.....it is an inspiration to all who know you i am sure.......i live a little more in the gray area of religious dogma.......i am counting on being able to repent for a life time of sins in the last 3 seconds i am alive.....wish me luck...that's cutting it pretty close... :mrgreen:

Oh thank you so much Mr. Obvious Li..



My walk with the Lord is not always easy, but I have the security of knowing I am never alone no matter the situation..



That is such a comfort to me.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2013, 09:32:36 PM
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that are in the flesh "cannot please God" (Rom. 8:8)



I wasn't able to attend the morning service and the evening one was cancelled..



However, I did do my daily devotional where we were camping.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 18, 2013, 10:06:36 PM
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that are in the flesh "cannot please God" (Rom. 8:8)



I wasn't able to attend the morning service and the evening one was cancelled..



However, I did do my daily devotional where we were camping.




Fash....i appreciate the pictorial.....now if God would just give me back all the money i lost in the 2008 sub-prime debacle......i promise to lead a chaste and decent life...(i do  :mrgreen: )
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2013, 10:10:17 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.feasite.org/sites/default/files/resize/page_images/pacechasm-505x536.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.feasite.org/sites/default/fi%20...%2005x536.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.feasite.org/sites/default/files/resize/page_images/pacechasm-505x536.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

that are in the flesh "cannot please God" (Rom. 8:8)



I wasn't able to attend the morning service and the evening one was cancelled..



However, I did do my daily devotional where we were camping.




Fash....i appreciate the pictorial.....now if God would just give me back all the money i lost in the 2008 sub-prime debacle......i promise to lead a chaste and decent life...(i do  :mrgreen: )

Matthew 5:33-37 (King James Version)



33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:



34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:



35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.



36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.



37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 18, 2013, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.feasite.org/sites/default/files/resize/page_images/pacechasm-505x536.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.feasite.org/sites/default/fi%20...%2005x536.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.feasite.org/sites/default/files/resize/page_images/pacechasm-505x536.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

that are in the flesh "cannot please God" (Rom. 8:8)



I wasn't able to attend the morning service and the evening one was cancelled..



However, I did do my daily devotional where we were camping.




Fash....i appreciate the pictorial.....now if God would just give me back all the money i lost in the 2008 sub-prime debacle......i promise to lead a chaste and decent life...(i do  :mrgreen: )

Matthew 5:33-37 (King James Version)



33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:



34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:



35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.



36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.



37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.[/quote]





ok..... i say Yea Yea...give me my money back........please..oh pretty please.. :geek:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2013, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




Fash....i appreciate the pictorial.....now if God would just give me back all the money i lost in the 2008 sub-prime debacle......i promise to lead a chaste and decent life...(i do  :mrgreen: )

Matthew 5:33-37 (King James Version)



33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:



34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:



35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.



36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.



37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.[/quote]





ok..... i say Yea Yea...give me my money back........please..oh pretty please.. :geek:

I try not to pray for myself, but people pray all the time that the Lord blesses their business.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 18, 2013, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"

Matthew 5:33-37 (King James Version)



33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:



34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:



35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.



36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.



37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.[/quote]





ok..... i say Yea Yea...give me my money back........please..oh pretty please.. :geek:

I try not to pray for myself, but people pray all the time that the Lord blesses their business.




well he took a big dump on mine.....so right now we are not on the best of terms....the ball is in his court.........i am patiently waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2013, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Matthew 5:33-37 (King James Version)



33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:



34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:



35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.



36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.



37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.[/quote]





ok..... i say Yea Yea...give me my money back........please..oh pretty please.. :geek:

I try not to pray for myself, but people pray all the time that the Lord blesses their business.




well he took a big dump on mine.....so right now we are not on the best of terms....the ball is in his court.........i am patiently waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 Peter 3:9

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 19, 2013, 04:08:52 AM
I don´t really want to mess with some1s faith.



Heck, I´m a neo-pagan. We have never actually stopped believing in the old gods. We have never been devout christians. The first crusade here met a bloody end in the hands of a finnish peasant.

He killed the bishops escort and the bishop himself.

The bishop stole food from the peasants house during winter. The peasant tracked the bishop down and killed him along with his escort.



It is now considered a folklore but we know our mentality and we know that it is a true story. Nobody, not even some stupid hat wearing fool, fucks with us.



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We have a saying "kun kolikko arkkuun kilahtaa niin sielu taivaaseen vilahtaa" which means once we pay, our soul gets to heaven to stay.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2013, 04:13:32 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"I don´t really want to mess with some1s faith.



Heck, I´m a neo-pagan. We have never actually stopped believing in the old gods. We have never been devout christians. The first crusade here met a bloody end in the hands of a finnish peasant.

He killed the bishops escort and the bishop himself.

The bishop stole food from the peasants house during winter. The peasant tracked the bishop down and killed him along with his escort.



It is now considered a folklore but we know our mentality and we know that it is a true story. Nobody, not even some stupid hat wearing fool, fucks with us.



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We have a saying "kun kolikko arkkuun kilahtaa niin sielu taivaaseen vilahtaa" which means once we pay, our soul gets to heaven to stay.

I like that drawing Odie.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 19, 2013, 04:40:17 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"I don´t really want to mess with some1s faith.



Heck, I´m a neo-pagan. We have never actually stopped believing in the old gods. We have never been devout christians. The first crusade here met a bloody end in the hands of a finnish peasant.

He killed the bishops escort and the bishop himself.

The bishop stole food from the peasants house during winter. The peasant tracked the bishop down and killed him along with his escort.



It is now considered a folklore but we know our mentality and we know that it is a true story. Nobody, not even some stupid hat wearing fool, fucks with us.



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We have a saying "kun kolikko arkkuun kilahtaa niin sielu taivaaseen vilahtaa" which means once we pay, our soul gets to heaven to stay.

I like that drawing Odie.


The peasant Lalli is about to kill the bishop Henrik at the lake Köyliö. Bishop Henrik stole food from Lalli´s house when he was away. The story tells that Lalli´s wife gave food but what choice did she have? An escort of soldiers would have sacked the house if she would have not given food.

In those days, the north was short on food. Food thieves deserved to die.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2013, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"I don´t really want to mess with some1s faith.



Heck, I´m a neo-pagan. We have never actually stopped believing in the old gods. We have never been devout christians. The first crusade here met a bloody end in the hands of a finnish peasant.

He killed the bishops escort and the bishop himself.

The bishop stole food from the peasants house during winter. The peasant tracked the bishop down and killed him along with his escort.



It is now considered a folklore but we know our mentality and we know that it is a true story. Nobody, not even some stupid hat wearing fool, fucks with us.



(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static.ylilauta.org/files/0u/orig/1370354230273175.jpg/936full-lalli.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static.ylilauta.org/files/0u/ori%20...%20-lalli.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static.ylilauta.org/files/0u/orig/1370354230273175.jpg/936full-lalli.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)



We have a saying "kun kolikko arkkuun kilahtaa niin sielu taivaaseen vilahtaa" which means once we pay, our soul gets to heaven to stay.

I like that drawing Odie.


The peasant Lalli is about to kill the bishop Henrik at the lake Köyliö. Bishop Henrik stole food from Lalli´s house when he was away. The story tells that Lalli´s wife gave food but what choice did she have? An escort of soldiers would have sacked the house if she would have not given food.

In those days, the north was short on food. Food thieves deserved to die.

Food thieves still deserve death. Don't touch my McDonald's fries.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2013, 11:37:10 PM
August 20, 2013



The Gift of Listening



I am praying to you because I know you will answer, O God. Bend down and listen as I pray." Psalm 17:6 (NLT)



One night I heard my husband calling our dog to get her treat. He was actually trying to lure Chelsea, our thirteen-year-old dachshund, to her doggie bed. She was in her favorite chair and nothing was getting her to budge, not even the promise of a treat.



I asked my kids if they thought Chelsea had "selective hearing" because she didn't want to go to bed or if she was going deaf. I had a feeling it was the latter.



We reminisced and laughed about how Chelsea used to hear every little thing, from the icemaker in our kitchen to a leaf blowing outside. Then my son Andrew, who was nine at the time, looked at me with great concern. "Mom, I hope when you get old you don't go deaf like Chelsea."



I laughingly told him it might be good if I can't hear everything when I get as old as Chelsea. She gets a lot more sleep, and she's not offended by the doggy jokes we make about her advanced age.



My light-hearted response didn't wipe the concern off his brow, so I asked why he was afraid I wouldn't be able to hear him. He answered without hesitation, "Well, sometimes you don't hear me now. Like when you're on the computer and I ask you a question."



Ouch! I had no idea my child thought I couldn't hear him. His answer almost sent me on a bad-mommy guilt-trip. Flashbacks popped up from times I'd heard him but hadn't listened because my focus was on someone or something else, like the computer and TV.



Instead of defining that moment with guilt, I pulled Andrew close and told him I was sorry for not listening sometimes. I explained how me being on the computer is similar to him watching a movie. He gets so involved he doesn't hear me call him for dinner. He smiled recognizing his own "hearing loss" at times.



Still, I didn't want that to be my excuse. So I promised him I would try to stop what I am doing when he comes to me. In my heart, I committed to look away from my computer or phone to really listen. His comment made me realize, we all long to be heard, don't we?



Psalm 17:6 reflects our desire for God to hear us. The psalmist wrote, "I am praying to you because I know you will answer, O God. Bend down and listen as I pray." It reminds me that in the same way I go to God because I want Him to listen and answer me, my child and others come to me because they want me to listen to them. When I stop what I'm doing and listen, it tells them that they, and what they have to say, are important to me.



In our culture of constant contact through technology, it's easy for our attention to be divided and our focus to shift away from those who are in the room with us.



Although we are physically present, often times we are mentally absent.



That night God showed me the valuable gift we can give our children, spouses, friends, co-workers and even strangers. It's the gift of listening.



We give it each time we stop what we're doing and turn our full attention to others when they talk to us. And, it's a gift God gives to us each time we talk to Him too!



Lord, thank You for listening to me. Please help me be a better listener. It's easy to hear with one ear while the other is turned toward my computer, television or cell phone. I want to give the gift of listening because it communicates that I value those who want me to hear them. Make me aware and willing to push past this habit so that I can be a listener like You. In Jesus' Name, Amen.



Related Resources:

Pre-order a copy of our NEW devotional book Encouragement for Today that includes 100 daily devotions written by our team of P31 authors.



Mining for Gold in the Heart of Your Child Character Chart by Renee Swope



The Power of a Purpose-Driven Parent message on CD by Renee Swope



Reflect and Respond:

Ask God to show you throughout the day how you are doing when it comes to really listening to those you live and work with.



Make a list of people you will give the gift of listening to this week.



Power Verses:

Psalm 54:2, "Hear my prayer, O God; listen to the words of my mouth." (NIV)



Luke 2:46, "After three days they found him [Jesus] in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions." (NIV)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2013, 11:49:13 PM
August 22, 2013



Put God to the Test

"Oh, put God to the test and see how kind He is! See for yourself the way His mercies shower down on all who trust in Him" (Psalm 34:8).



Sam wanted to receive Christ, but he was reluctant. Somehow, he just could not bring himself to make that necessary commitment of the will to exercise his faith and receive Christ. Because of unfortunate experiences in his youth, he had a distorted view of the goodness of God.



I encouraged Him to make his commitment, but he still hesitated. Finally, I turned to that wonderful promise of our Scripture for today and asked him to read it. As he read, the Holy Spirit gave him the faith to believe that he could trust God.



Put God to the test. Taste and see how good and kind He is. Sam discovered that day, and for the rest of his life, the faithfulness and the goodness and the kindness of God.



Do you have reservations, uncertainties, fears about the trustworthiness of God? If so, I encourage you to place your trust in Him, and you will find, as millions have found, and as I have found, that God is good, faithful, and true.



Similarly, you and I can put God to the test and find a friendly haven in the midst of enemy territory. More important, perhaps, is the certainty we can have that God does hear and answer our prayers - in situations where He and He alone knows the end from the beginning and can provide deliverance.



How vital to the supernatural life to know that we have immediate access to the God of the universe, the very one who alone can guarantee victory and deliverance.





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Bible Reading: I Peter 2:1-5



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TODAY'S ACTION POINT: Realizing that, as a believer, I am constantly in "enemy territory," I will trust God and encourage others to trust Him moment by moment for deliverance, for I know that He is just and kind and good. He is a loving, heavenly Father whom I can trust. I will encourage others to put God to the test and see how kind He is, to discover for themselves His mercies that He showers on all who place their trust in Him.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
I had an exhausting day today..



It was my turn to prepare the fellowship luncheon at my church..



I was up late last night and early this morning making sandwiches, salads, dessert squares and chicken soup..



It is a pleasure though to serve..



Today's sermon was about serving the poor with James 5:1-6 as reference.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 26, 2013, 06:31:03 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I had an exhausting day today..



It was my turn to prepare the fellowship luncheon at my church..



I was up late last night and early this morning making sandwiches, salads, dessert squares and chicken soup..



It is a pleasure though to serve..



Today's sermon was about serving the poor with James 5:1-6 as reference.


Sounds very nice.

You are a very peculiar person.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2013, 11:04:26 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I had an exhausting day today..



It was my turn to prepare the fellowship luncheon at my church..



I was up late last night and early this morning making sandwiches, salads, dessert squares and chicken soup..



It is a pleasure though to serve..



Today's sermon was about serving the poor with James 5:1-6 as reference.


Sounds very nice.

You are a very peculiar person.

She is actually a very kind person.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on August 26, 2013, 12:46:28 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I had an exhausting day today..



It was my turn to prepare the fellowship luncheon at my church..



I was up late last night and early this morning making sandwiches, salads, dessert squares and chicken soup..



It is a pleasure though to serve..



Today's sermon was about serving the poor with James 5:1-6 as reference.


Sounds very nice.

You are a very peculiar person.

She is actually a very kind person.


She seems to be so.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Big Wave Dave on August 26, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Sounds very nice.

You are a very peculiar person.

She is actually a very kind person.


She seems to be so.

No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
She is actually a very kind person.


She seems to be so.

No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.

I know Fash and she wouldn't give either one of you two mouthy losers the time o day.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Renee on August 26, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
She is actually a very kind person.


She seems to be so.

No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.


Good God, is this the best quality of troll this place can attract?  :roll:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2013, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Odinson"


She seems to be so.

No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.


Good God, is this the best quality of troll this place can attract?  :roll:

SMP is talented by comparison.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Renee on August 26, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.


Good God, is this the best quality of troll this place can attract?  :roll:

SMP is talented by comparison.


Actually he is, no joke. Some of his postings can be rather entertaining, even if they are 100% bullshit.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 26, 2013, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


Good God, is this the best quality of troll this place can attract?  :roll:

SMP is talented by comparison.


Actually he is, no joke. Some of his postings can be rather entertaining, even if they are 100% bullshit.




ya i don 't really mind if he rambles on here....better than some...way better than some
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
SMP is talented by comparison.


Actually he is, no joke. Some of his postings can be rather entertaining, even if they are 100% bullshit.




ya i don 't really mind if he rambles on here....better than some...way better than some

Posting personal information is very not cool. He hasn't done it here...yet.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on August 26, 2013, 07:40:08 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


Actually he is, no joke. Some of his postings can be rather entertaining, even if they are 100% bullshit.




ya i don 't really mind if he rambles on here....better than some...way better than some

Posting personal information is very not cool. He hasn't done it here...yet.




if he starts his bullshit i will delete him into the dustbin of ACF history....
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
SMP is talented by comparison.


Actually he is, no joke. Some of his postings can be rather entertaining, even if they are 100% bullshit.




ya i don 't really mind if he rambles on here....better than some...way better than some

Rambling on is fine.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2013, 11:06:53 PM
Cupbearer To The King



One of my favorite Bible passages that applies to work is Nehemiah 1–2. King Artaxerxes' employee Nehemiah had been such an exemplary worker that the king wanted to honor him by helping him when he was sad that Jerusalem was still in ruins. He asked Nehemiah, "Why is your face sad? . . . What do you request?" (2:2,4). He wasn't just any worker for the king, he was the cupbearer, the man who tasted the king's drink to protect him from being poisoned. In order to have earned such a position, he apparently worked hard and honored God in everything he did. And the king granted his requests.



God cares about the way we work. Colossians 3:23 tells us, "Whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men." We can follow Nehemiah's example in these ways: Be such a competent and trusted worker that God is honored (Neh. 1:11–2:6). Care passionately about others and what's important to them. Take action, occasionally even risky action, to honor what's important to God and to fellow believers (2:3-6).



When we honor God in work, our employers may notice. But even if they don't, our heart's desire and purpose should be to honor the One we really serve—the Lord our God (Col. 3:17,23).



O Lord, may the way I serve tell Your story!

I want to bring You all the glory in my work,

at home, and everywhere I go. Fill me and use

me to bless others and honor You today.

God honors faith because faith honors God.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Saltydog on September 02, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
Numbers 14:18



'The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, but he will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, to the third and the fourth generation.'
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on September 03, 2013, 05:27:56 AM
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
She is actually a very kind person.


She seems to be so.

No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.


Aunt Jemimas are my lovers and uncle toms are my comrades. Both talking and acting white. I like that.



Asian babes... Hmm hehhehee.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on September 03, 2013, 05:32:39 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Odinson"


She seems to be so.

No self-respecting Asian babe would ever go out with some Aunt Jemima humper like you.

I know Fash and she wouldn't give either one of you two mouthy losers the time o day.


Big Wave Dave is nothing like me so I wouldn´t be too sure about that.



I can be pretty charming.  ;)



And don´t talk about whos mouthy loser here... You know what you are.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2013, 08:04:57 PM
Today's sermon was titled Doing By Faith with James 2:14-26 as a reference..



It was to show us what this grace-through-faith looks like in practice..



It is a challenge to those who would stop there and not live what God by grace through Christ has done for us.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2013, 01:52:20 AM
Today as I was praying for my husband I am reminded that despite being separated temporarily from each other and him being in an isolated place nothing can separate us from the love of God.



Romans 8:38-39 (NLT)

And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God's love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God's love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on September 19, 2013, 09:42:16 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today as I was praying for my husband I am reminded that despite being separated temporarily from each other and him being in an isolated place nothing can separate us from the love of God.



Romans 8:38-39 (NLT)

And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God's love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God's love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.


I do believe there´s some kind of reason to all of this but it cannot explained by the existance of a one man-like deity.



We humans seem to be genetically coded to believe in supernatural.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on September 19, 2013, 09:54:30 AM
I think we humans are too young to understand anything...



I bet Julius Caesar never thought we will one day have Ipods, PCs, playstations and the ability to travel into space. Imagine what the world will be 2000years from now... No1 can imagine that.



One step at a time and lets just explore this galaxy first.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2013, 09:41:12 PM
Today's sermon was part one of a two part sermon titled "home improvement"..  



Hebrews 13:4 was used as a reference..



Very helpful advice from a Godly perspective for a better marriage.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2013, 04:36:11 PM
Today's sermon was the second part of the home improvement series..



Again very good advice for couples from a biblocal perspective..



Hard going to church without my husband though...I hope he can come home very soon.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on September 29, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Improvement:

-get a maid whom has an infant so she can feed other kids too.

-new audio tech for the living room.

-a decent gym.



stuff like that.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2013, 08:23:26 PM
Today's devotional for October 3, 2013.



A number of years ago, when I was a new human resource manager for a company, I attended the visitation and funeral of a long-time employee I had never met. The worker, a bricklayer, was loved by his co-workers, yet very few came to see his widow. I listened to someone trying to console her by saying that many people stay away because they are afraid of saying or doing the wrong thing and making the family more miserable.



In times of distress, however, people rarely remember what we say. What they most remember is that we were there. Familiar faces offer strength beyond description; they provide comfort for the deep feelings of loneliness setting in from the loss. This "gift of presence" is one we're all capable of offering, even if we're tongue-tied or uncomfortable.



Martha and Mary were surrounded by friends and mourners who comforted them when their brother Lazarus died (John 11:19). Then the One they most longed to see—Jesus—came and wept with them (vv.33-35). The people responded, "See how He loved him!" (v.36).



In loss of any kind, Jesus always gives His comforting presence, and we have the ability to give deeply of His compassion simply by the gift of our presence.



O may I never fail to see

The comfort you may need from me;

And may you know that I am there

To bind our souls as grief we share. —Kilgore

Often the best comfort is just being there.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2013, 10:01:06 PM
Barrier-Free Love



Not long ago I heard the distressed chirping of a bird coming from the side of my neighbor's house. I discovered that a nest of baby birds was inside a vent covered by a screen, placing a barrier between the mother bird who was trying to feed her hungry chicks. After I told the neighbors, they removed the screen and took the nest and chicks to a safe place to be cared for.



Few things are as heartbreaking as a barrier to love. Christ, the long-awaited Messiah of Israel, experienced a barrier to His love when His chosen people rejected Him. He used the word picture of a hen and her baby chicks to describe their unwillingness to receive it: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem . . . ! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!" (Matt. 23:37).



Our sin is a barrier that separates us from God (Isa. 59:2). But "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). Jesus took care of the barrier to God's love by His sacrificial death on the cross and His resurrection (Rom. 5:8-17; 8:11). Now He longs for us to experience His love and accept this gift.



My heart is stirred whene'er I think of Jesus,

That blessed Name that sets the captive free;

The only Name through which I find salvation,

No name on earth has meant so much to me. —Eliason

Through His cross, Jesus rescues and redeems.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on October 18, 2013, 08:37:33 AM
My name means "Jahve is merciful"... Weird.



I believe people show their true colour and beliefs when they are facing the reaper.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
Today's sermon was "Alive Through Our Lord Jesus' Ultimate Sacrifice" with  Romans 6:1-11 as a reference..



What that means to us that are alive because of Christ's atoning blood..



If any person is in Christ, he is a new creature..



Christ paid for our sins.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on October 20, 2013, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was "Alive Through Our Lord Jesus' Ultimate Sacrifice" with  Romans 6:1-11 as a reference..



What that means to us that are alive because of Christ's atoning blood..



If any person is in Christ, he is a new creature..



Christ paid for our sins.


You are getting a little scary there, fashie.



You are sounding like those yankee "priests" whom preach and bang the neighbours 9year old daughter in the process.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was "Alive Through Our Lord Jesus' Ultimate Sacrifice" with  Romans 6:1-11 as a reference..



What that means to us that are alive because of Christ's atoning blood..



If any person is in Christ, he is a new creature..



Christ paid for our sins.


You are getting a little scary there, fashie.



You are sounding like those yankee "priests" whom preach and bang the neighbours 9year old daughter in the process.

I certainly don't agree with Fash's religious devotion, but comparing her to a kiddie diddling priest is low even by your standards. :roll:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on October 20, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's sermon was "Alive Through Our Lord Jesus' Ultimate Sacrifice" with  Romans 6:1-11 as a reference..



What that means to us that are alive because of Christ's atoning blood..



If any person is in Christ, he is a new creature..



Christ paid for our sins.


You are getting a little scary there, fashie.



You are sounding like those yankee "priests" whom preach and bang the neighbours 9year old daughter in the process.

I certainly don't agree with Fash's religious devotion, but comparing her to a kiddie diddling priest is low even by your standards. :roll:


I do not think fashie is anywhere near that low but I have heard similar preaching from crazy pedophiles.



I´m not too comfortable with what we call "hihhulism" or crazy bible thumping.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
Devotional for October 25, 2013



Loving and knowing



In a novel by Jonathan Safran Foer, one of the characters, speaking of New York's Empire State Building, said, "I know this building because I love this building."



That statement caused me to think about the relationship between love and knowledge. Whenever we love something, we want to know everything about it. When we love a place, we want to explore every inch of it. When we love a person, we want to know every detail of his or her life. We want to know what he likes, how she spends her time, where he grew up, who her friends are, what he believes. The list is endless. But some of us want to be loved without allowing ourselves to be known. We're afraid that we won't be loved if we are truly known.



We don't have to worry about that with God. His love is far superior to ours: "God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8). Furthermore, He makes Himself known to us. Through creation, Scripture, and Christ, God reveals His character and His love. Because God loves us in spite of our imperfections, we can safely confess our faults to Him. With God, we need not fear being known. That's why to know God is to love Him.



Be still and know that He is God

For pathways steep and rough,

Not what He brings, but what He is

Will always be enough. —Anon.

There is no greater joy than to know that God loves us.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Rambo Wong on October 25, 2013, 10:05:13 PM
Athiests are macho cool
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Romero on October 25, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
:lol:  :roll:



I gotta admit, he does have an unusual sense of humour sometimes.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
Quote from: "Romero":lol:  :roll:



I gotta admit, he does have an unusual sense of humour sometimes.

His schtick gets old in real hurry.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on October 26, 2013, 06:35:04 AM
If there is some almighty overlord, I think he is hilarious.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"If there is some almighty overlord, I think he is hilarious.

That is an opinion, but I am afraid I don't share it.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on October 26, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"If there is some almighty overlord, I think he is hilarious.

That is an opinion, but I am afraid I don't share it.


Come on... A car breaks down 150km from the nearest settlement and there no cellphone coverage..

God was laughing his ass off.  :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2013, 10:25:58 PM
Today's sermon was titled rejecting God's word..



It was about man's inherent rebelliousness..



Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, He hath also rejected thee from being king" (1 Samuel 15:23).
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Frost on November 09, 2013, 03:59:05 PM
I have most my Christmas shopping over with except for my mother, I have no clue what to get her.



I'm all for Christmas, and always have been even if I think that it's a stolen pagan holiday.

I even say Marry Christmas, and don't even mind a little star on the tree .

I think those who wish it out of the public spotlight need to stop being a-holes, and just enjoy.

Of course I can do without the crowds, and Commercialism of it all.

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Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: "Blue"I have most my Christmas shopping over with except for my mother, I have no clue what to get her.



I'm all for Christmas, and always have been even if I think that it's a stolen pagan holiday. I even say Marry Christmas, and don't even mind a little star on the tree .

I think those who wish it out of the public spotlight need to stop being a-holes, and just enjoy.

Of course I can do without the crowds, and Commercialism of it all.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies/smilies3/topstar.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies%20...%20opstar.gif%22%3Ehttp://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies/smilies3/topstar.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

Jesus and not Santa Claus or consumerism is the reason for the season.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
Gifts are the main reason.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Gifts are the main reason.

Giving is central to Christmas, but not the gifts themselves.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Gifts are the main reason.

Giving is central to Christmas, but not the gifts themselves.


What else "giving" is there?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Gifts are the main reason.

Giving is central to Christmas, but not the gifts themselves.


What else "giving" is there?

Giving is an act of kindness, a gift is just generally a product.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Do you think I should cut down with the racism?



I think I´ll probably go to hell.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 05:44:55 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Do you think I should cut down with the racism?



I think I´ll probably go to hell.

That is not even a question that needs to be asked Odie..



Hatred destroys the soul.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
But apparently toleralism destroys your wallet.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 06:45:42 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"But apparently toleralism destroys your wallet.

What does this mean Odie?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 07:09:28 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"But apparently toleralism destroys your wallet.

What does this mean Odie?


I don´t know.. Just tolerance.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
Got myself banned from VF.  :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Got myself banned from VF.  :lol:

You did, what did you do?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
I posted a pic of a beheaded woman. The mod responded suprisingly fast.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"I posted a pic of a beheaded woman. The mod responded suprisingly fast.

I wish I never looked at that thread.

 :shock:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"I posted a pic of a beheaded woman. The mod responded suprisingly fast.

I wish I never looked at that thread.

 :shock:


You can´t be that sensitive.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"I posted a pic of a beheaded woman. The mod responded suprisingly fast.

I wish I never looked at that thread.

 :shock:


You can´t be that sensitive.

It was disgusting Odie.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I wish I never looked at that thread.

 :shock:


You can´t be that sensitive.

It was disgusting Odie.


Stuff like that happens. People need to see how horrible it is.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
Now stupid chick evs is talking shit.. I cannot respond.



She is annoying little prick.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


You can´t be that sensitive.

It was disgusting Odie.


Stuff like that happens. People need to see how horrible it is.

You didn't need the visual aid Odie..



I agree with the mods of Vancouver Forum.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 09, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
It was disgusting Odie.


Stuff like that happens. People need to see how horrible it is.

You didn't need the visual aid Odie..



I agree with the mods of Vancouver Forum.


Yea, I knew I get punished somehow. It is just temp. ban.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2013, 08:14:19 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Stuff like that happens. People need to see how horrible it is.

You didn't need the visual aid Odie..



I agree with the mods of Vancouver Forum.


Yea, I knew I get punished somehow. It is just temp. ban.

I gave you a temporary ban here, so I understand.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Frost on November 10, 2013, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blue"I have most my Christmas shopping over with except for my mother, I have no clue what to get her.



I'm all for Christmas, and always have been even if I think that it's a stolen pagan holiday. I even say Marry Christmas, and don't even mind a little star on the tree .

I think those who wish it out of the public spotlight need to stop being a-holes, and just enjoy.

Of course I can do without the crowds, and Commercialism of it all.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies/smilies3/topstar.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies%20...%20opstar.gif%22%3Ehttp://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies/smilies3/topstar.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

Jesus and not Santa Claus or consumerism is the reason for the season.

It may be now, but it was taking from pagans that celebrated the winter solstice. The Catholics took it as their own, and made up it was about Jesus to get converts, and people to stop the pagan ways.

Here at my home it's just about gift giving, and family. It certainly isn't Jesus birthday which is likely in August by what some have suggested.  



LOL I looked and saw Christmas Corner yesterday when opening the thread  :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: "Blue"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blue"I have most my Christmas shopping over with except for my mother, I have no clue what to get her.



I'm all for Christmas, and always have been even if I think that it's a stolen pagan holiday. I even say Marry Christmas, and don't even mind a little star on the tree .

I think those who wish it out of the public spotlight need to stop being a-holes, and just enjoy.

Of course I can do without the crowds, and Commercialism of it all.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies/smilies3/topstar.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies%20...%20opstar.gif%22%3Ehttp://www.bluefrost.org/images/smilies/smilies3/topstar.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

Jesus and not Santa Claus or consumerism is the reason for the season.

It may be now, but it was taking from pagans that celebrated the winter solstice. The Catholics took it as their own, and made up it was about Jesus to get converts, and people to stop the pagan ways.

Here at my home it's just about gift giving, and family. It certainly isn't Jesus birthday which is likely in August by what some have suggested.  



LOL I looked and saw Christmas Corner yesterday when opening the thread  :lol:

Same goes for Easter Frosty. Just another sales drive for confection makers.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Frost on November 10, 2013, 01:42:33 PM
Most of the holidays was taken from pagan ones, but the Catlicks had to give in somehow to get convert, and not look bad getting drunk.

Like today they are kissing everyone's butts to keep people, even catering to gays which is wrong in the bible.

Having beer parties, fish fries, carnivals, and such, 6 flags over Jesus is what it is.

It's alright because the pope speaks for God :roll: Well he's making God a hypocrite by proxy.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: "Blue"Most of the holidays was taken from pagan ones, but the Catlicks had to give in somehow to get convert, and not look bad getting drunk.

Like today they are kissing everyone's butts to keep people, even catering to gays which is wrong in the bible.

Having beer parties, fish fries, carnivals, and such, 6 flags over Jesus is what it is.

It's alright because the pope speaks for God :roll: Well he's making God a hypocrite by proxy.

I'm an atheist, so you are preaching to the choir so to speak. Big religion is just as bad as big labour, big government, big NGO's and big charities.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Frost on November 10, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
I agree, and a non believer myself, but I have a soft side to good Christians, and good people of other faiths.

I know there is good Catholics, good Muslims even, but they are very misguided in their books, and beliefs.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
Quote from: "Blue"I agree, and a non believer myself, but I have a soft side to good Christians, and good people of other faiths.

I know there is good Catholics, good Muslims even, but they are very misguided in their books, and beliefs.

I draw the line with Fashionista though. That xtian is pure evil. :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2013, 05:01:59 PM
Today's sermon was about being a faithful servant of the Lord with  Matthew 24:36-51 as a reference..



So any of us including those of us in the body of Christ put our own pleasures and comforts almost forgetting that with our salvation comes responsibility to God.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Frost on November 11, 2013, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Blue"I agree, and a non believer myself, but I have a soft side to good Christians, and good people of other faiths.

I know there is good Catholics, good Muslims even, but they are very misguided in their books, and beliefs.

I draw the line with Fashionista though. That xtian is pure evil. :lol:


And the Devil was a pleasant creature :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2013, 10:40:52 PM
For November 12 and from Our Daily Bread.



The flashing lights of the police car drew my attention to a motorist who had been pulled over for a traffic violation. As the officer, ticket book in hand, walked back to his car, I could clearly see the embarrassed driver sitting helplessly behind the wheel of her car. With her hands, she attempted to block her face from the view of passersby—hoping to hide her identity. Her actions were a reminder to me of how embarrassing it can be when we are exposed by our choices and their consequences.



When a guilty woman was brought before Jesus and her immorality was exposed, the crowd did more than just watch. They called for her condemnation, but Jesus showed mercy. The only One with the right to judge sin responded to her failure with compassion. After dispatching her accusers, "Jesus said to her, 'Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more'" (John 8:11). His compassion reminds us of His forgiving grace, and His command to her points to His great desire that we live in the joy of that grace. Both elements show the depth of Christ's concern for us when we stumble and fall.



Even in our most embarrassing moments of failure, we can cry out to Him and find that His grace is truly amazing.



Amazing grace—how sweet the sound—

That saved a wretch like me!

I once was lost, but now am found;

Was blind, but now I see. —Newton

Jesus alone can supply the grace we need for each trial we face.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2013, 11:57:19 PM
Daily devotional for Our Daily Bread for November 14..



By serving others we serve our Lord.



On Helping Others



When snowstorms bury the grazing lands, ranchers must feed their herds by hand. As hay is tossed from wagons and trucks, the strongest animals bull their way to the front. Timid or sickly animals get little or no feed unless the rancher intervenes.



Workers in refugee camps and food pantries report a similar pattern. When they open their stores to those in need, the weak and timid may not make it to the front of the line. Like the ranchers, these human lifelines must take steps to ensure that their services reach the feeble, weary, and sick at the edge of society's attention.



They are carrying out a principle set forth by God long ago. In Leviticus 19, Moses instructed Israel's farmers and vintners to leave portions of their crops so the poor and the stranger could have something to eat (vv.9-10).



We too can serve as caretakers to the weak and weary. Whether we're teachers coaxing quiet students to open up, workers coming alongside a struggling co-worker, prisoners looking out for new arrivals, or parents showing attention to their children, we have ways to honor God by helping others.



As we seek to serve those in need, may the grace of God that reached us in our need move us to reach out to others in theirs.

Father, open my eyes to those struggling to have

enough food, enough love, enough hope; then open my

heart to find ways to help them receive love, using my

hands in service to them—and through them, to You.



By serving others, we serve God.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 15, 2013, 12:04:54 AM
I do not understand how some1 can so devoutly go into church.



I have always wondered how is your sex life, fash?



We have sex many times per day. She can have 15 orgasms per intercourse but I try to do better. She sometimes loses her consciousness and in fact the first time I saw that happening to a woman, I called an ambulance. She was not responding and I was worried.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2013, 12:12:59 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"I do not understand how some1 can so devoutly go into church.



I have always wondered how is your sex life, fash?



We have sex many times per day. She can have 15 orgasms per intercourse but I try to do better. She sometimes loses her consciousness and in fact the first time I saw that happening to a woman, I called an ambulance. She was not responding and I was worried.

How dare you...that is none of your business Odinson..



I have never discussed that with anyone let alone on a forum for everyone to read.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 15, 2013, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"I do not understand how some1 can so devoutly go into church.



I have always wondered how is your sex life, fash?



We have sex many times per day. She can have 15 orgasms per intercourse but I try to do better. She sometimes loses her consciousness and in fact the first time I saw that happening to a woman, I called an ambulance. She was not responding and I was worried.

How dare you...that is none of your business Odinson..



I have never discussed that with anyone let alone on a forum for everyone to read.


 :lol:

Kuinkas kehtaat senkin renttu! "how dare you, you scaundrel".



You females love us scaundrels. ;)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2013, 12:02:49 AM
Today's devotional from Our Daily Bread is about real love.



A few years ago, my friend's mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease. Since then, Beth has been forced to make tough decisions about her mom's care, and her heart has often been broken as she watched her vibrant and fun-loving mom slowly slipping away. In the process, my friend has learned that real love is not always easy or convenient.



After her mom was hospitalized for a couple of days last year, Beth wrote these words to some of her friends: "As backwards as it may seem, I'm very thankful for the journey I am on with my mom. Behind the memory loss, confusion, and utter helplessness is a beautiful person who loves life and is at complete peace. I am learning so much about what real love is, and even though I probably wouldn't have asked for this journey and the tears and heartache that go with it, I wouldn't trade it for anything."



The Bible reminds us that love is patient and kind. It is not self-seeking or easily angered. It "bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things" (1 Cor. 13:4-7).



Real love originated with our Father, who gave us the gift of His Son. As we seek to show His love to others, we can follow the example of Christ, who laid down His life for us (1 John 3:16-18).



Real love is helping others for Jesus' sake even if they can never return the favor.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Odinson on November 27, 2013, 09:12:37 AM
Okay my 2nd to last one post was a real gem...  :D



Oops.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2013, 09:15:01 PM
Today's devotional is about integrity.

 

We call it the Integrity League, but it's really just a bunch of guys who get together at lunchtime to play basketball. We call fouls on ourselves, attempt to avoid angry outbursts, and simply try to keep everything fair and enjoyable. We are competitive and we don't like to lose—but we all agree that integrity and honesty should control the atmosphere.



Integrity. Scripture clearly indicates the importance of this trait. And we honor the God of our lives when we practice it.



Through His Word, God has given us clear reasons to "walk in . . . integrity" (Ps. 26:11). A person who has integrity has the security of a quiet life unknown to the one who "perverts his ways" (Prov. 10:9). The follower of God who lives with integrity is preserved by his confidence in God, for that person waits for God's intervention in his life instead of running ahead of Him (Ps. 25:21). And the one who practices integrity will be given guidance and clear direction (Prov. 11:3).



Why should we care about life's "Integrity League"? Because obeying God this way shows that we trust Him with our lives and that we want to shine His great love on others.

Dear Father, help my word be true. Help my

actions be honest. Help my life to

reflect Your holiness and shine God's light

for all to see. Help me to live with integrity.



Integrity is Christlike character in workclothes
.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2013, 10:52:56 PM
Living Backward



December 16, 2013



The Chicago River is unusual because it flows backward. Engineers reversed its direction over a century ago because city-dwellers were using it as a dump. Dishwater, sewage, and industrial waste all funneled into the river, which emptied into Lake Michigan. Since the lake supplied drinking water for the city, thousands grew sick and died before city authorities decided to redirect the river to flow backward, away from the lake.



When we look at the earthly life of Jesus, it may seem backward from what we would expect. As the King of glory, He came to earth as a vulnerable infant. As God in the flesh, He endured accusations of blasphemy. As the only sinless man, He was crucified as a criminal. But Jesus lived on earth according to God's will (John 6:38).



As followers of Christ, to clothe ourselves with Jesus' attitudes and actions may appear "backward." Blessing our enemies (Rom. 12:14), valuing godliness over wealth (1 Tim. 6:6-9), and taking joy in hardship (James 1:2) seem to oppose worldly wisdom. Yet, Jesus said, "Whoever loses his life for My sake will find it" (Matt. 16:25).



Don't worry if living your life sometimes means operating in reverse. God will give you the strength to honor Him, and He will propel you forward.

Dear God, please give me the strength to go

against the flow of this world. Help me to resist

what is wrong in Your eyes and to act in ways

that please You, for the glory of Your name.



Clothing ourselves with Jesus' attitudes and actions shows His presence in our lives.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2013, 10:27:25 PM
Today's sermon was titled Standing Up in Faith with Daniel 3:1-30 and Revelation 7:9-17 as a reference..



The purpose was to encourage followers of Jesus to stand up in faith knowing he is with them, to resist putting trust in idols, and to know God's hand will redeem the way we worship.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2014, 11:55:02 PM
Devotional for January 8, 2014.



The Hidden Life



Some years ago, I came across a poem by George MacDonald titled, "The Hidden Life." It tells the story of an intellectually gifted young Scot who turned his back on a prestigious academic career to return to his aging father and to the family farm. There he engaged in what MacDonald called, "ordinary deeds" and "simple forms of human helpfulness." His friends lamented what they saw as a waste of his talents.



Perhaps you too serve in some unnoticed place, doing nothing more than ordinary deeds. Others might think that's a waste. But God wastes nothing. Every act of love rendered for His sake is noted and has eternal consequences. Every place, no matter how small, is holy ground. Influence is more than lofty acts and words. It can be a simple matter of human helpfulness: being present, listening, understanding the need, loving, and praying. This is what turns daily duty into worship and service.



The apostle Paul challenged the Colossians: "Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus," and "do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance" (Col. 3:17,23-24). God takes notice and delights in using us.

Dear Lord, may I be willing to be hidden and unknown

today, yet ready to speak a word to those who are

weary. May Your Spirit touch my words and make

them Your words that enrich and refresh others.



The way to accomplish much for Christ is to serve Him in any way we can.





Insight

In contrast to Colossians 3:8-10, where Paul describes some of the behaviors that followers of Christ are to leave behind through the help of His transforming power, verses 12-16 describe several of the new attributes that a Christian should demonstrate. There is an interesting interplay between verses 12-14 and 15-16. We are to "put on" certain character traits, actively investing in their development (vv.12-14). However, we are to "let" the peace of God rule in our hearts and the word of Christ dwell in us (vv.15-16). The development of Christlike character is the result of the Holy Spirit's work in us and our response of yielding to Him.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
Devotional for January, 13, 2014.



Much More Than Survival



In April 1937, Mussolini's invading armies forced all the missionaries serving in the Wallamo region to flee Ethiopia. They left behind just 48 Christian converts, who had little more than the gospel of Mark to feed their growth. Few even knew how to read. But when the missionaries returned 4 years later, the church had not just survived; it numbered 10,000!



When the apostle Paul was forced to leave Thessalonica (see Acts 17:1-10), he yearned to learn about the survival of the small band of Christians he left behind (1 Thess. 2:17). But when Timothy visited the Thessalonian church later, he brought word to Paul in Athens about their "faith and love" (1 Thess. 3:6). They had become "examples" to the believers in the surrounding regions in Macedonia and Achaia (1 Thess. 1:8).



Paul never claimed credit for any numerical increase in his ministry. Nor did he attribute it to anyone else. Rather, he gave credit to God. He wrote, "I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase" (1 Cor. 3:6).



Difficult circumstances may thwart even our best intentions, separating friends from each other for a season. But God is growing His church through every difficulty. We need only be faithful and leave the results to Him.

Lord, we are so prone to be fearful when we face

opposition, yet so often we want to take credit

for every little success. Help us see that You are

the One who blesses and builds Your church.



I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. —Jesus (Matthew 16:18)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2014, 11:02:23 PM
Devotional for January 17, 2014.



Heavenly Perspective



Fanny Crosby lost her sight as an infant. Yet, amazingly, she went on to become one of the most well-known lyricists of Christian hymns. During her long life, she wrote over 9,000 hymns. Among them are such enduring favorites as "Blessed Assurance" and "To God Be the Glory."



Some people felt sorry for Fanny. A well-intentioned preacher told her, "I think it is a great pity that the Master did not give you sight when He showered so many other gifts upon you." It sounds hard to believe, but she replied: "Do you know that if at birth I had been able to make one petition, it would have been that I was born blind? . . . Because when I get to heaven, the first face that shall ever gladden my sight will be that of my Savior."



Fanny saw life with an eternal perspective. Our problems look different in light of eternity: "For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal" (2 Cor. 4:17-18).



All our trials dim when we remember that one glorious day we will see Jesus!

Dear God, please help us to see this life

from a heavenly perspective. Remind us that

our trials, however difficult, will one day fade

from view when we see You face to face.



The way we view eternity will affect the way we live in time.



Insight

Christ-followers will experience trials and tribulation in this life. Christian ministry, like any other activity, carries with it the wear and tear of opposition, resistance, and disappointment. Paul acknowledges this reality but finds more than enough power and encouragement from his inner spiritual transformation to carry on. In Paul's mind, the final outcome will be an "eternal weight of glory" (v.17). In all this, perspective is essential. "For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal" (v.18). The Greek word temporary could be translated "for a season." The good and ills we face each day are only seasonal, but the reality of Christ will last for all eternity. This perspective gives the believer staying power to face life's challenges.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Today's devotional titled Greatness coincides with Martin Luther King Day in the United States.



Some people feel like a small pebble lost in the immensity of a canyon. But no matter how insignificant we judge ourselves to be, we can be greatly used by God.



In a sermon early in 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. quoted Jesus' words from Mark 10 about servanthood. Then he said, "Everybody can be great, because everybody can serve. You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve. You don't have to know about Plato and Aristotle to serve. . . . You only need a heart full of grace, a soul generated by love."



When Jesus' disciples quarreled about who would get the places of honor in heaven, He told them: "Whoever desires to become great among you shall be your servant. And whoever of you desires to be first shall be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Mark 10:43-45).



I wonder about us. Is that our understanding of greatness? Are we gladly serving, doing tasks that may be unnoticed? Is the purpose of our serving to please our Lord rather than to gain applause? If we are willing to be a servant, our lives will point to the One who is truly great.

No service in itself is small,

None great, though earth it fill;

But that is small that seeks its own,

And great that does God's will. —Anon.



Little things done in Christ's name are great things.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2014, 12:13:58 AM
Today's devotional is entitled Load Line.



In the 19th century, ships were often recklessly overloaded, resulting in those ships going down and the crews being lost at sea. In 1875, to remedy this negligent practice, British politician Samuel Plimsoll led the charge for legislation to create a line on the side of a ship to show if it was carrying too much cargo. That "load line" became known as the Plimsoll Line, and it continues to mark the hulls of ships today.



Sometimes, like those ships, our lives can seem overloaded with fears, struggles, and heartaches. We can even feel that we are in danger of going under. In those times, however, it is reassuring to remember that we have a remarkable resource. We have a heavenly Father who stands ready to help us carry that load. The apostle Peter said, "Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time, casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you" (1 Peter 5:6-7). He is capable of handling the cares that overwhelm us.



Though the testings of life may feel like a burden too heavy to bear, we can have full assurance that our heavenly Father loves us deeply and knows our load limits. Whatever we face, He will help us to bear it.

Heavenly Father, I sometimes feel as if I can't go

on. I am tired, I am weak, and I am worn. Thank You

that You know my limits better than I do. And that, in

Your strength, I can find the enablement to endure.



God may lead us into troubled waters to deepen our trust in Him.





Insight

Peter wrote from his own experience when he warned that "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble" (v.5). When foretold that he would deny Jesus (Matt. 26:34; Luke 22:31-34), Peter boasted that he would never betray Him (Matt. 26:35). In his pride, Peter underestimated the severity of his trial and overestimated his ability to deal with the pressure (vv.69-75). Thirty years later, he exhorted his readers to be humble (1 Peter 5:5). Because God resists the proud (v.5), Scripture repeatedly warns of the danger of pride (Prov. 11:2; 29:23; Isa. 2:11-12; Obad. 1:3-4; James 4:6-7).
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Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2014, 07:32:24 PM
Today's devotional is titled Buyer's Remorse.



Have you ever experienced buyer's remorse? I have. Just prior to making a purchase, I feel the surge of excitement that comes with getting something new. After buying the item, however, a wave of remorse sometimes crashes over me. Did I really need this? Should I have spent the money?



In Genesis 3, we find the first record of a buyer's remorse. The whole thing began with the crafty serpent and his sales pitch. He persuaded Eve to doubt God's Word (v.1). He then capitalized on her uncertainty by casting doubt on God's character (vv.4-5). He promised that her eyes would "be opened" and she would become "like God" (v.5).



So Eve ate. Adam ate. And sin entered the world. But the first man and woman got more than they bargained for. Their eyes were opened all right, but they didn't become like God. In fact, their first act was to hide from God (vv.7-8).



Sin has dire consequences. It always keeps us from God's best. But God in His mercy and grace clothed Adam and Eve in garments made from animal skins (v.21)—foreshadowing what Jesus Christ would do for us by dying on the cross for our sins. His blood was shed so that we might be clothed with His righteousness—with no remorse!

Then will I set my heart to find

Inward adornings of the mind:

Knowledge and virtue, truth and grace,

These are the robes of richest dress. —Watts



The cross, which reveals the righteousness of God, provides that righteousness for mankind.



Insight

Satan misapplied God's words in today's passage. God's prohibition against eating applied only to the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" (Gen. 2:16-17), not to every tree (3:1). Satan's phrase "You will not surely die" (v.4) was a direct challenge to God's declaration, "You shall surely die" (2:17). In turn, Eve also modified God's clear instruction: "nor shall you touch it" (3:3). The story of the fall is a clear warning to us to study and know God's Word so that we will not be led astray.
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Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Today's devotional is titled An Important Command and is written by Philip Yancey.

 

When asked by a lawyer to identify the most important rule in life, Jesus replied, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength" (Mark 12:30). In those words, Jesus summed up what God most desires from us.



I wonder how I can possibly learn to love God with all my heart, soul, and mind. Neal Plantinga remarks on a subtle change in this commandment as recorded in the New Testament. Deuteronomy charges us to love God with all our heart, soul, and strength (6:5). Jesus added the word mind. Plantinga explains, "You shall love God with everything you have and everything you are. Everything."



That helps us change our perspective. As we learn to love God with everything, we begin to see our difficulties as "our light and momentary troubles"—just as the apostle Paul described his grueling ordeals. He had in mind a "far more exceeding and eternal . . . glory" (2 Cor. 4:17).



In the advanced school of prayer, where one loves God with the entire soul, doubts and struggles do not disappear, but their effect on us diminishes. "We love Him because He first loved us" (1 John 4:19), and our urgent questions recede as we learn to trust His ultimate goodness.

Once earthly joy I craved, sought peace and rest;

Now Thee alone I seek; give what is best.

This all my prayer shall be:

More love, O Christ, to Thee. —Prentiss



The most treasured gift we can give to God is one that He can never force us to give—our love.





Insight

Many Bible scholars believe that Mark's gospel record was written primarily to a Roman audience. Part of the reason for this view is rooted in the fast-paced presentation of the story of Jesus with a focus on action and movement. Also contributing to this thinking is Mark's occasional parenthetical explanations of Jewish practices that would likely have been foreign to the people of Rome. One example is seen in Mark 7:3-4, where the ceremonial washing of hands is described.
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Post by: Odinson on February 04, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
Look at this... Not photoshopped.



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Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"Look at this... Not photoshopped.



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That is amazing....that is a young man who needs to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
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Post by: Odinson on February 05, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
I´m somewhat scared of heights when climbing up structures..



I once fixed a cross-light on top of a church tower... I had a rope and a harness though..



I did it to get the hazardous extra pay.



Russians do all kinds funky stuff.
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Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2014, 09:05:18 PM
The Power Of Music



February 10, 2014



In Wales, the music of men's chorus groups is deeply engrained in the culture. Prior to World War II, one Welsh glee club had a friendly yet competitive rivalry with a German glee club, but that bond was replaced with animosity during and after the war. The tension was gradually overcome, though, by the message on the trophy shared by the two choruses: "Speak with me, and you're my friend. Sing with me, and you're my brother."



The power of music to heal and help is a gift from God that comforts many. Perhaps that is why the Psalms speak so deeply to us. There we find lyrics that connect with our hearts, allowing us to speak to God from the depth of our spirits. "But I will sing of Your power; yes, I will sing aloud of Your mercy in the morning; for You have been my defense and refuge in the day of my trouble" (Ps. 59:16). Amazingly, David wrote this song as he was being hunted down by men seeking to kill him! Despite his circumstances, David remembered God's power and mercy, and singing of them encouraged him to go on.



May our God give us a song today that will remind us of His goodness and greatness, no matter what we may face.

This is my story, this is my song,

Praising my Savior all the day long;

This is my story, this is my song,

Praising my Savior all the day long. —Crosby



"I will make music to the Lord, the God of Israel." —Judges 5:3 (nlt)





Insight

David did not immediately assume the throne after Samuel the prophet anointed him king of Israel. In fact, despite the promise of God, David had to run for his life. Today's psalm was written by David while he was fleeing from his predecessor Saul. Here, David describes the actions of evil men (vv.6-7) but expresses confidence in the sovereignty of God (vv.8-10).
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Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2014, 08:48:14 PM
Today's devotional is titied Covering Sinkholes.



In late May 2010, tropical storm Agatha hit Central America, producing torrential rains and landslides. Once it finished its course, a 200-foot-deep sinkhole opened in downtown Guatemala City. This sinkhole caused the ground to collapse suddenly, sucking land, electrical poles, and a 3-story building into the depths of the earth.



Though sinkholes can be devastating, the most universal and damaging sinkhole is the one that happens in the human heart. King David was an example of this.



The surface of David's life looked stable; however, his interior life rested on a fragile foundation. After his sins of adultery and murder, David thought he had successfully hidden his treacherous acts (2 Sam. 11–12). However, God's intense conviction after Nathan's confrontation caused him to realize that denying the presence of sin in his life weakened the foundation of his spiritual life. To prevent this spiritual sinkhole from worsening, David acknowledged his sin to God in repentance (Ps. 32:5). As a result, God covered David's sin and gave him the joy of forgiveness.



We too will experience God's grace when we confess our sins to Him. He will completely forgive and cover our spiritual sinkholes.

Thinking It Over

What habitual sins, secret addictions, or hidden

vulnerabilities are weakening your interior life?

Remember, God longs to give you complete forgiveness.



When we uncover our sins in repentance God will cover them.





Insight

Psalm 32 is one of the seven penitential psalms (Pss. 6,38,51,102,130,143), which are prayers confessing sins and turning to the Lord for His mercy and forgiveness. For about a year after his adultery with Bathsheba, David refused to admit that he had sinned—that is, until the prophet Nathan confronted him (2 Sam. 11–12). As a result, David penned Psalms 32 and 51. In today's psalm, David celebrates the forgiveness he received (vv.1-2), warns of the terrible burden of living with unconfessed sins (vv.3-4), and encourages sinners to repent or face chastening by the Lord (vv.3-6,8-11). In the New Testament, Paul quotes Psalm 32:1-2 to show how God forgives sinners—by grace through faith alone (see Rom. 4:6-8).
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Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
The devotional for March 3 is titled Instant Gratification.



When the Polaroid SX-70 camera was introduced in 1972, it revolutionized photography. An article by Owen Edward in Smithsonian magazine described the camera as "a miracle of physics, optics and electronics." When a photo was snapped, "a blank square would emerge from the front of the camera and develop before our eyes." People were sold on speedy, immediate results.



Oswald Chambers saw a strong connection between our desire for the immediate and lust: "Lust simply means, 'I must have this at once'; it may be a bodily appetite or a spiritual possession. . . . I cannot wait for God's time, God is too indifferent; that is the way lust works."



In Psalm 27, David wrote of his waiting on God during a time of great trouble when there was no solution in sight. Instead of giving in to despair, he maintained his confidence that he would "see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living" (v.13).



We live in a world that worships the immediate. When it seems there is no sign of our deepest longings being fulfilled, the psalmist urges us to cling to the eternal God. "Wait on the Lord; be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart; wait, I say, on the Lord!" (v.14).

Help me, O Lord, to be content! My lips to seal,

To every vain desire, each whim—instead to kneel,

Acknowledging Thee, Lord and King, and in that place

To kneel, to pray, to wait until I see Thy face! —Adams



The answer to our craving for the immediate is to focus on the eternal.



Insight

One of the main focuses of this psalm is the Lord's "house" (v.4). At the time of David's writing, the temple had not yet been built. The place of worship (the tabernacle) was regarded as a symbol of the presence of God among His people.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
Today's devotional for March 13, 2014 is titled "Without Power".



In late October 2012, a hurricane-spawned superstorm struck the heavily populated northeastern US, leaving massive flooding and destruction in its wake. During the storm, more than 8 million customers lost electricity. Power outages alone caused shortages of food, fuel, and water, along with the chaos of gridlocked transportation. The howling winds and surging waters left many neighborhoods crushed, flooded, and choked with mountains of sand. Media coverage of the event reported: "Millions Without Power."



Like a storm of nature, a personal tragedy can often leave us feeling powerless and in the dark. During such times, God's Word assures us of His help: "He gives power to the weak, and to those who have no might He increases strength" (Isa. 40:29).



At our lowest point, drained of emotional resources, we can place our hope in the Lord and find our strength in Him. He promises us that, for each new day, "Those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint" (v.31).



God is our spiritual power source in every storm of life.

O God, our help in ages past,

Our hope for years to come,

Our shelter from the stormy blast,

And our eternal home! —Watts



It takes the storm to prove the real shelter.



Insight

To say the least, coping with life's many demands can be fatiguing at times. But the reading for today uses wonderful poetic imagery to describe the buoyancy that faith can provide. The believer who depends upon the Lord can "mount up with wings like eagles" (40:31). The text also mentions the supernatural staying power and stamina that only God can provide. In contrast to the strength that youth and health provide, the person of faith can persevere long after others have given up on the race of life. Finally, Isaiah 41:10 extends a wonderful promise of protection and care through life's threats and troubles.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2014, 10:21:18 PM
Today's devotional is titled "Perspective From The Clouds".



In 1927 the silent film Wings, a World War I film about two American aviators, won the first Academy Award for Best Picture. When it was being filmed, production stopped for several days. Frustrated producers asked the director why. He responded: "All we have is blue sky. The conflict in the air will not be as visible without clouds. Clouds bring perspective." He was right. Only by seeing aerial combat with clouds as a backdrop could the viewer see what was really going on.



We often wish for blue skies instead of storm clouds. But cloudy skies may reveal God's faithfulness. We gain perspective on how God has been faithful in our trials as we look back on the clouds.



At the beginning of his terrible suffering, Job lamented: "May the day perish on which I was born . . . . May a cloud settle on it" (Job 3:3-5). His experience of despair continued for a long time until God spoke. Then Job exclaimed, "I have heard of You . . . but now my eye sees You" (42:5). Job had encountered the sovereign Creator, and that changed his perspective on God's purposes.



Do clouds of trouble fill your skies today? Sooner than you think, God may use these clouds to help you gain perspective on His faithfulness.

God, give us wings to rise above

The clouds of trial that block the sun,

To soar above gray skies and see

The love and goodness of Your Son. —Sper



Often the clouds of sorrow reveal the sunshine of His face. —Jasper



Insight

In Job 3:3-5, we have what many Bible scholars call Job's soliloquy. After a time of quiet agony, the great Old Testament saint breaks his silence and lets out his anguish. He calls for darkness and then destruction to overwhelm him. Instead of seeing God's light-filled and good creation, Job feels he is living in a world of darkness. But in Job 42:5-6, we see the resolution to Job's conflict. Out of the whirlwind, God challenges Job and points to creation as a witness to His reality. Although he is never told that his sufferings are the result of spiritual warfare from the devil, Job submits to the sovereignty of God and experiences restoration.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2014, 08:38:12 PM
Today's devotional for April 1, 2014 is titled Free Tomatoes.



Packing groceries into the trunk of my car, I glanced at the vehicle next to me. Through the back window, I could see baskets full of bright red tomatoes—shiny, plump, and better looking than any I had seen in the store. When the car's owner appeared seconds later, I said, "What great looking tomatoes!" She replied, "I had a good crop this year. Would you like some?" Surprised by her willingness to share, I gladly accepted. She gave me several free tomatoes to take home—they tasted as good as they looked!



We see an even greater spirit of generosity in the Israelites when they gave to build the tabernacle of the Lord. When asked to provide materials for the sanctuary, "everyone whose spirit was willing . . . brought the Lord's offering for the work of the tabernacle" (Ex. 35:21). The Israelites eagerly donated their gold jewelry, colored thread, fine linen, silver, bronze, gemstones, and spices. Some also gave their time and talents (vv.25-26).



If we follow the Israelites' example and willingly donate our resources, we please and honor God with our attitude and offerings. The Lord, who sees and knows our thoughts and hearts, loves cheerful givers. He Himself is the best example of generosity (John 3:16).

Dear Jesus, You gave everything You had

for my sake. Help me to give with

a willing heart so that my gifts

will truly honor You.



The state of our heart is more important than the size of our gift.



Insight

The tabernacle became Israel's mobile place of worship during their journey from Egypt to the land of promise. Until it was replaced by Solomon's temple in Jerusalem, the tabernacle served not only as a house of worship, but also as the center of Israel's national life.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
Today's devotional is titled Acts Of Kindness.



I was traveling with some men when we spotted a family stranded alongside the road. My friends immediately pulled over to help. They got the car running, talked with the father and mother of the family, and gave them some money for gasoline. When the mother thanked them over and over, they replied, "We're glad to help out, and we do it in Jesus' name." As we drove away, I thought how natural it was for these friends to help people in need and acknowledge the Lord as the source of their generosity.



Peter and John exhibited that same joyful generosity when they healed a lame man who was begging outside the temple in Jerusalem (Acts 3:1-10). This led to their arrest and appearance before the authorities who asked, "By what power or by what name have you done this?" Peter replied, "If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man . . . let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole" (Acts 4:7-10).



Kindness is a fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22) and a powerful context in which to genuinely speak to others about the Lord.

Lord, help me to love with both words and deeds,

To reach out to others and meet their needs;

Lord, burden my heart for those lost in sin,

With mercy and love that flows from within. —Fitzhugh



One act of kindness may teach more about the love of God than many sermons.
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Post by: Obvious Li on April 22, 2014, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's devotional is titled Acts Of Kindness.



I was traveling with some men when we spotted a family stranded alongside the road. My friends immediately pulled over to help. They got the car running, talked with the father and mother of the family, and gave them some money for gasoline. When the mother thanked them over and over, they replied, "We're glad to help out, and we do it in Jesus' name." As we drove away, I thought how natural it was for these friends to help people in need and acknowledge the Lord as the source of their generosity.



Peter and John exhibited that same joyful generosity when they healed a lame man who was begging outside the temple in Jerusalem (Acts 3:1-10). This led to their arrest and appearance before the authorities who asked, "By what power or by what name have you done this?" Peter replied, "If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man . . . let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole" (Acts 4:7-10).



Kindness is a fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22) and a powerful context in which to genuinely speak to others about the Lord.

Lord, help me to love with both words and deeds,

To reach out to others and meet their needs;

Lord, burden my heart for those lost in sin,

With mercy and love that flows from within. —Fitzhugh



One act of kindness may teach more about the love of God than many sermons.




i agree with you Fash.....i use these passages and concepts whenever i have one of my discussions with RW....it's better that way...... :ugeek:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2014, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Today's devotional is titled Acts Of Kindness.



I was traveling with some men when we spotted a family stranded alongside the road. My friends immediately pulled over to help. They got the car running, talked with the father and mother of the family, and gave them some money for gasoline. When the mother thanked them over and over, they replied, "We're glad to help out, and we do it in Jesus' name." As we drove away, I thought how natural it was for these friends to help people in need and acknowledge the Lord as the source of their generosity.



Peter and John exhibited that same joyful generosity when they healed a lame man who was begging outside the temple in Jerusalem (Acts 3:1-10). This led to their arrest and appearance before the authorities who asked, "By what power or by what name have you done this?" Peter replied, "If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man . . . let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole" (Acts 4:7-10).



Kindness is a fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22) and a powerful context in which to genuinely speak to others about the Lord.

Lord, help me to love with both words and deeds,

To reach out to others and meet their needs;

Lord, burden my heart for those lost in sin,

With mercy and love that flows from within. —Fitzhugh



One act of kindness may teach more about the love of God than many sermons.




i agree with you Fash.....i use these passages and concepts whenever i have one of my discussions with RW....it's better that way...... :ugeek:

I use daily devotionals as a way of communicating with God as well as strengthening my faith.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2014, 08:58:20 PM
Today's devotional is titled Probing questions.



While riding on a train a few years after the American Civil War, General Lew Wallace of the Union Army encountered a fellow officer, Colonel Robert Ingersoll. Ingersoll was one of the 19th century's leading agnostics, and Wallace was a man of faith. As their conversation turned to their spiritual differences, Wallace realized that he wasn't able to answer the questions and doubts raised by Ingersoll. Embarrassed by his lack of understanding about his own faith, Wallace began searching the Scriptures for answers. The result was his confident declaration of the person of the Savior in his classic historical novel Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ.



Probing questions from skeptics don't have to be a threat to our faith. Instead, they can motivate us to seek a deeper understanding and equip us to respond wisely and lovingly to those who might question our faith. The apostle Peter encouraged us to pursue the wisdom of God in the Scriptures when he wrote, "Always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear" (1 Peter 3:15).



We don't have to have an answer for every question, but we need the courage, confidence, and conviction to share our love for Christ and the hope that is in us.



Christ is the ultimate answer to life's greatest questions.



Insight

Hebrew boys in the first century were taught the Old Testament. In today's reading, we see how Peter, a fisherman of the working class, had at his command a familiarity with the Scriptures when he quotes from Psalm 34:12-16 (vv.10-12) and Isaiah 8:12 (v.14). Peter may well have recalled these passages from memory.
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Post by: Chickenfeets on April 29, 2014, 07:56:13 PM
A minor correction, Fash: Hebrew boys in the first century (as is the case with Jewish boys today) were taught the Tanakh, the Hebrew scriptures. "The Old Testament" is a pejorative term used by Christians to highlight the ascendancy of the new covenant over the old through the figure of Christ.



You will never encounter a Jewish boy who will say he is studying "the Old Testament."



The word "Tanakh" represents the first letters of the three main divisions in the Hebrew Bible (the best version of which I find is the Tanakh, published by the JPS): Torah (the "Teaching"), Nevi'im (the "Prophets"), and Ketuvim (the "Writings").



The Torah is also known as the "Five Books of Moses": Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.



For an even more interesting insight about what Hebrew boys were taught in the first century, I recommend you pick up a JPS Tanakh and compare it with what you call "the Old Testament." You might find it quite enlightening.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"A minor correction, Fash: Hebrew boys in the first century (as is the case with Jewish boys today) were taught the Tanakh, the Hebrew scriptures. "The Old Testament" is a pejorative term used by Christians to highlight the ascendancy of the new covenant over the old through the figure of Christ.



You will never encounter a Jewish boy who will say he is studying "the Old Testament."



The word "Tanakh" represents the first letters of the three main divisions in the Hebrew Bible (the best version of which I find is the Tanakh, published by the JPS): Torah (the "Teaching"), Nevi'im (the "Prophets"), and Ketuvim (the "Writings").



The Torah is also known as the "Five Books of Moses": Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.



For an even more interesting insight about what Hebrew boys were taught in the first century, I recommend you pick up a JPS Tanakh and compare it with what you call "the Old Testament." You might find it quite enlightening.

Chickenfeets, I copied and pasted this daily devotional from Our Daily Bread..



I have been in a conservative Jewish synagogue and we respected their traditions; my husband wore a yarmulke..



And yes they chanted in Hebrew from the Tanakh and paraded the Torah around the walls of the congregation for people to touch..



Old testament is not intentionally meant as an offensive term, it's like secular people referring to us as "religious".
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Post by: Obvious Li on April 29, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"A minor correction, Fash: Hebrew boys in the first century (as is the case with Jewish boys today) were taught the Tanakh, the Hebrew scriptures. "The Old Testament" is a pejorative term used by Christians to highlight the ascendancy of the new covenant over the old through the figure of Christ.



You will never encounter a Jewish boy who will say he is studying "the Old Testament."



The word "Tanakh" represents the first letters of the three main divisions in the Hebrew Bible (the best version of which I find is the Tanakh, published by the JPS): Torah (the "Teaching"), Nevi'im (the "Prophets"), and Ketuvim (the "Writings").



The Torah is also known as the "Five Books of Moses": Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.



For an even more interesting insight about what Hebrew boys were taught in the first century, I recommend you pick up a JPS Tanakh and compare it with what you call "the Old Testament." You might find it quite enlightening.




yes...what christians refer to as the Pentateuch........ :ugeek:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2014, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"A minor correction, Fash: Hebrew boys in the first century (as is the case with Jewish boys today) were taught the Tanakh, the Hebrew scriptures. "The Old Testament" is a pejorative term used by Christians to highlight the ascendancy of the new covenant over the old through the figure of Christ.



You will never encounter a Jewish boy who will say he is studying "the Old Testament."



The word "Tanakh" represents the first letters of the three main divisions in the Hebrew Bible (the best version of which I find is the Tanakh, published by the JPS): Torah (the "Teaching"), Nevi'im (the "Prophets"), and Ketuvim (the "Writings").



The Torah is also known as the "Five Books of Moses": Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.



For an even more interesting insight about what Hebrew boys were taught in the first century, I recommend you pick up a JPS Tanakh and compare it with what you call "the Old Testament." You might find it quite enlightening.




yes...what christians refer to as the Pentateuch........ :ugeek:

My pastor uses the word Torah.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on April 29, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"A minor correction, Fash: Hebrew boys in the first century (as is the case with Jewish boys today) were taught the Tanakh, the Hebrew scriptures. "The Old Testament" is a pejorative term used by Christians to highlight the ascendancy of the new covenant over the old through the figure of Christ.



You will never encounter a Jewish boy who will say he is studying "the Old Testament."



The word "Tanakh" represents the first letters of the three main divisions in the Hebrew Bible (the best version of which I find is the Tanakh, published by the JPS): Torah (the "Teaching"), Nevi'im (the "Prophets"), and Ketuvim (the "Writings").



The Torah is also known as the "Five Books of Moses": Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.



For an even more interesting insight about what Hebrew boys were taught in the first century, I recommend you pick up a JPS Tanakh and compare it with what you call "the Old Testament." You might find it quite enlightening.




yes...what christians refer to as the Pentateuch........ :ugeek:

My pastor uses the word Torah.




if your pastor was a Rabbi...he would be correct....... :ugeek:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2014, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




yes...what christians refer to as the Pentateuch........ :ugeek:

My pastor uses the word Torah.




if your pastor was a Rabbi...he would be correct....... :ugeek:

No, he's not a rabbi Obvious Li.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on April 29, 2014, 11:10:16 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My pastor uses the word Torah.




if your pastor was a Rabbi...he would be correct....... :ugeek:

No, he's not a rabbi Obvious Li.

 :lol:

Or: "No, he's not a rabbi, obviously."  ;)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2014, 11:15:16 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




if your pastor was a Rabbi...he would be correct....... :ugeek:

No, he's not a rabbi Obvious Li.

 :lol:

Or: "No, he's not a rabbi, obviously."  ;)

Hello Chickenfeets, so nice to see you this evening.

 :)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on April 29, 2014, 11:17:11 PM
Thanks, Fash.



Nice to see you, too, as always.  ;)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2014, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"Thanks, Fash.



Nice to see you, too, as always.  ;)

That's so sweet Chickenfeets, thank you..



I have to make husband and children's lunches for tomorrow..



Have a nice evening.

 :)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on April 29, 2014, 11:32:57 PM
Thank you, Fash.



My evening is drawing to a close. And I've already prepared my lunch for tomorrow. A couple of tuna sandwiches. Box of apple juice. Oatmeal cookie. A handful of dried apricots.



To make up for the fried chicken I had today--best in the world!
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on April 29, 2014, 11:52:12 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"Thank you, Fash.



My evening is drawing to a close. And I've already prepared my lunch for tomorrow. A couple of tuna sandwiches. Box of apple juice. Oatmeal cookie. A handful of dried apricots.



To make up for the fried chicken I had today--best in the world!




i would expect some good deli food......but i guess when you live there it is no big deal.....have a good one CF
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on April 30, 2014, 07:48:07 AM
Yeah, sometimes I bring deli fare to work.



A couple of months ago, I swung by Schwartz's on my way to work and bought 4 kg medium smoked meat, a loaf of rye bread, 400 g of thinly sliced Swiss cheese, six massive pickles, a tub of slaw, and a bottle of onion mustard. Smiles all around at lunchtime, I tell you! Deli fare is meant to be savoured in good company.



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I also once sprung this on my colleagues (not deli food but a blast to share):



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Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2014, 07:50:03 AM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"Yeah, sometimes I bring deli fare to work.



A couple of months ago, I swung by Schwartz's on my way to work and bought 4 kg medium smoked meat, a loaf of rye bread, 400 g of thinly sliced Swiss cheese, six massive pickles, a tub of slaw, and a bottle of onion mustard. Smiles all around at lunchtime, I tell you! Deli fare is meant to be savoured in good company.



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I also once sprung this on my colleagues (not deli food but a blast to share):



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Good morning Chickenfeets, that is a beautiful sushi platter.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on April 30, 2014, 08:03:44 AM
G'morning, Fash.



Yes, it is a beautiful platter, isn't it? I wish I had the skills to make sushi on my own. We were once given a gift set that included a sushi cookbook and the utensils required to make your own sushi. Unfortunately, the set just gathered dust on the shelves. This despite the fact that I live a 30-second walk away from a specialized Asian grocery store that carries all the ingredients necessary to make sushi. My bad.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"G'morning, Fash.



Yes, it is a beautiful platter, isn't it? I wish I had the skills to make sushi on my own. We were once given a gift set that included a sushi cookbook and the utensils required to make your own sushi. Unfortunately, the set just gathered dust on the shelves. This despite the fact that I live a 30-second walk away from a specialized Asian grocery store that carries all the ingredients necessary to make sushi. My bad.

It's not that hard really to make sushi, from what I've heard. At least the grocery store type.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Obvious Li on April 30, 2014, 06:33:18 PM
i thought any well trained submissive Asian housewife should be able to make sushi....not correct ????..  :o
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"i thought any well trained submissive Asian housewife should be able to make sushi....not correct ????..  :o

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Leopardsocks on May 01, 2014, 09:18:04 AM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"G'morning, Fash.



Yes, it is a beautiful platter, isn't it? I wish I had the skills to make sushi on my own. We were once given a gift set that included a sushi cookbook and the utensils required to make your own sushi. Unfortunately, the set just gathered dust on the shelves. This despite the fact that I live a 30-second walk away from a specialized Asian grocery store that carries all the ingredients necessary to make sushi. My bad.


If you knew sushi, like I knew sushi...oh, oh, oh what a meal.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"G'morning, Fash.



Yes, it is a beautiful platter, isn't it? I wish I had the skills to make sushi on my own. We were once given a gift set that included a sushi cookbook and the utensils required to make your own sushi. Unfortunately, the set just gathered dust on the shelves. This despite the fact that I live a 30-second walk away from a specialized Asian grocery store that carries all the ingredients necessary to make sushi. My bad.


If you knew sushi, like I knew sushi...oh, oh, oh what a meal.

Do you often eat sushi Leopardsocks?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Leopardsocks on May 01, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
Er, that was a gag line...



Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2014, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"Er, that was a gag line...




I fixed it a little bit for you Leopardsocks..



Some youtube videos won't embed.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on May 01, 2014, 08:43:47 PM
I bet Leopardsocks was just waiting for that sushi cue.  8-)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"I bet Leopardsocks was just waiting for that sushi cue.  8-)

Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on May 01, 2014, 08:56:51 PM
:idea:  :D
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Chickenfeets on May 01, 2014, 09:00:41 PM
Dale Hawkins version to be preferred by the likes of Chickenfeets...



//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj1jPW1WFvY
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2014, 08:43:10 PM
D.votional for May 5, 2014 is titled Who Gets The Credit?



Chris Langan has an IQ higher than Albert Einstein's. Moustafa Ismail has 31-inch biceps and can lift 600 pounds. Bill Gates is estimated to be worth billions. Those who have extraordinary abilities or possessions might be tempted to think more highly of themselves than they should. But we don't have to be wildly smart, strong, or wealthy to want to take credit for our achievements. Any size of accomplishment carries with it this question: Who will get the credit?



During a time of judgment, God spoke to the Israelites through the prophet Jeremiah. He said: "Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let not the mighty man glory in his might, nor let the rich man glory in his riches" (Jer. 9:23). Rather, "Let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me" (v.24). God wanted His people to prize Him and His excellence above anything else.



If we allow praise to inflate our self-image, we're forgetting that "every good gift . . . comes down from the Father" (James 1:17). It's better to give God the glory—not only because it protects our hearts from pride but also because He rightfully deserves it. He is God, the One "who does great things . . . marvelous things without number" (Job 5:9).

Not I, but Christ, be honored, loved, exalted;

Not I, but Christ, be seen, be known, be heard;

Not I, but Christ, in every look and action;

Not I, but Christ, in every thought and word. —Whiddington



We were created to give God the glory.



Insight

Circumcision was the external sign that the Israelites were God's covenantal people (Gen. 17:10-14). But circumcision was not exclusive to them, for it was widely practiced in the ancient world, including among the Egyptian and Canaanite peoples (Jer. 9:26). Although the Jews knew it was a symbol of their covenant with God, few, if any, understood the need for a spiritual operation on the heart (Deut. 10:16; Jer. 4:4; Acts 7:51). A humble and obedient heart was what God wanted from His people (Lev. 26:41; Deut. 30:6; Jer. 9:24; Rom. 2:29). God warned that He would punish all those who are circumcised in body but not in spirit (Jer. 9:25).
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2014, 08:34:16 PM
Today's devotional is titled Talking About Jesus by Dave Branon.





Former major league baseball player Tony Graffanino tells of an ongoing ministry effort in a European country. Each year his organization holds a week-long baseball camp. During this week they also offer a daily Bible study. In past years, the leader tried to find reasoned ways to convince the campers that God exists so they would place their faith in Him. After about 13 years, they had seen only 3 people decide to follow Jesus.



Then they changed their approach, says Graffanino. Instead of "trying to present facts, or winning arguments for a debate," they simply talked about "the amazing life and teachings of Jesus." As a result, more campers came to listen, and more chose to follow Him.



The apostle Paul said that when we tell others about the gospel of Jesus Christ, we should set "forth the truth plainly. . . . We do not preach ourselves," he said, "but Jesus Christ as Lord" (2 Cor. 4:2,5 niv). This was Paul's standard for evangelism: "I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified" (1 Cor. 2:2).



We should be knowledgeable about the Bible and about the reasons for our belief, and sometimes we need to explain those reasons. But the most compelling and effective story we can tell puts Christ in the center.

Father God, please use me in the lives of others.

Remind me to talk about who Jesus is and His life

and teachings. And not to be dragged into debates,

but to share Jesus' amazing life.



The risen Christ is the reason for our witness.



Insight

Today's reading showcases a remarkable spiritual reality concerning those who are resistant to the gospel. "But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ . . . should shine on them" (vv.3-4). The apostle Paul tells us that Satan, "the god of this age," has produced a form of spiritual blindness that hinders one's perception of the reality of Jesus Christ. Spiritual blindness can only be overcome by the light of Christ (v.6).
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2014, 09:08:43 PM
Today's devotional is titled Words To Live By by David C. McCasland.

For many years I've maintained a file folder labeled "Speaking." It has become thick with articles, quotations, and illustrations that might be useful. Recently I went through it to discard things that are out of date. I found it difficult to throw away many of the items, not because I haven't used them in a talk but because I haven't put them into practice. I closed the folder thinking, "These aren't words to talk about; these are words to live by."



After 40 years in the desert, Moses addressed the people poised to enter the Promised Land: "Now, O Israel, listen to the statutes and the judgments which I teach you to observe, that you may live, and go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your fathers is giving you" (Deut. 4:1). Moses' repeated theme (vv.1,2,5,6,9) is that God's commandments are to be kept. He said it well, "Surely I have taught you statutes and judgments . . . that you should act according to them" (v.5).



It is so easy to talk about doing more than we actually do and to speak about truth we're not living by. We can become bloated with words, yet starved for reality, forgetting that all of God's commands flow from His heart of love for us.

Help us, Lord, not to be just hearers of the Word;

help us to be doers as well. Teach us to be honest

with ourselves about who we really are. We want

to walk in Your ways and to guide others to You.



The strength of our actions should match the strength of our words.



Insight

Far from being a burden, the commands God gave to the Israelites were life-giving. They outlined a life lived in response to His love. In today's text, Moses reminded the Israelites that the commands were for their wisdom and understanding (v.6). The result of living by the words of the Lord would be that the nations around them would recognize the one true God (vv.7-8).
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Pinay on May 14, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I want to change our Taoist symbol..



These are some of the possibilities..

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I like the one with the bible pages flying like birds  :)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2014, 07:41:35 AM
Quote from: "Pinay"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I want to change our Taoist symbol..



These are some of the possibilities..

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I like the one with the bible pages flying like birds  :)

Thank you Pinay, but we will keep the Taoist symbol for now.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2014, 07:44:06 PM
Today's devotional is titled The Light of The Lamb.



For countless generations people have looked to the sun and moon to light the day and the night. Whether illuminating our path or providing the life-giving radiance for fruitful crops and the nutrients our bodies need, the sun and moon are part of God's marvelous provision of light. The book of Genesis tells us that God gave "the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night" (Gen. 1:16).



But someday God will provide a different kind of illumination. Of the eternal heavenly city, John writes: "The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light" (Rev. 21:23). Interestingly, the word translated "light" here is more accurately rendered lamp. Christ in His glorified state will be the spiritual lamp that lights up that joyous new world.



The Lord Jesus Christ is "the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" (John 1:29). He is also the source of spiritual illumination that makes those who follow Him "the light of the world" (Matt. 5:14). But in eternity He will be the Lamp that lights our way (Rev. 21:23). What a thrill it will be one day to live in the light of the Lamb!

No darkness have we who in Jesus abide—

The light of the world is Jesus;

We walk in the light when we follow our Guide—

The light of the world is Jesus. —Bliss



The Light of the world knows no power failure.



Insight

In the Old Testament, the tabernacle and the temple were emblematic of God's presence among His people. In eternity, no such facility will be needed (Rev. 21:22) because the redeemed will live in the presence of God Himself
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 07:52:55 PM
The daily devotional for July 16 is titled Feeling Chained.



Boethius lived in sixth-century Italy and served the royal court as a highly skilled politician. Unfortunately, he fell into disfavor with the king. He was accused of treason and imprisoned. While awaiting execution, he asked for writing materials so he could compose his reflections. Later, these became an enduring spiritual classic on consolation.



As Boethius sat in prison, pondering his bleak prospects, his faith in Christ infused his perspective: "Nothing is miserable but what is thought so, and contrariwise, every estate is happy if he that bears it be content." He understood that our view of changing circumstances and contentment is a personal choice.



The apostle Paul reinforced the idea that the way we view our circumstances is more important than the circumstances themselves. While he too was in prison, he wrote: "I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content" (Phil. 4:11). Both men could be content because they drew their ultimate satisfaction from God, who never changes.



Do you feel chained to difficult circumstances? God can give you contentment. Lasting satisfaction can be found only with Him, for in His "presence is fullness of joy; at [His] right hand are pleasures forevermore" (Ps. 16:11).

Lord, lead me today as You see best. Use the gifts

You've given me to encourage others on

their journey. Help me not to compare

myself with others but to be content.



When all you have is God, you have all you need.



Insight

David affirms that God is his protector and provider (Ps. 16:1-2). In response to who God is, David delights in the fellowship of like-minded believers and disassociates himself from idolatry (vv.3-4). He depends on God's Word and celebrates the security and safety he has in the Lord's presence, not only in this present life but also beyond this life (vv.5-11).
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
Today's devotional is titled Graceland.



The Graceland Mansion in Memphis, Tennessee, is one of the most visited homes in the US. It was built in the 1930s and named after the original owner's great aunt, Grace. It later became famous as the home of Elvis Presley.



I love the name Graceland because it describes the amazing territory into which God placed me when He forgave me of my sin and made me His own. He took me out of the darkness and brought me into His own "graceland."



The apostle Paul says that "the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many" (Rom. 5:15). I'll be forever thankful that the "many" includes me and that God's love has transferred me into the territory of His marvelous, infinite, matchless grace!



Think of the blessing of being in God's graceland. It is a realm where He has given us entrance into His presence and where that same grace continues to overflow into our lives on a daily basis. Paul tells us that even in times of despair God showers us with sufficient grace to see us through (see 2 Cor. 12:9).



No matter what life may bring, nothing can remove us from the realm of God's grace.



Lord, for the blessings of Your grace

I am forever grateful! Teach me to accept

Your grace and to live in its power. Help me

to share Your story with others.

Remember where you live and rejoice in His grace.

Insight

Paul's comparison of Adam and Jesus can be boiled down to a few words. Adam's life resulted in an "offense" that brought "judgment" and "death," but Jesus' life brought a "free gift" of "grace" that brought "righteousness." In grace (v.15), God took away the consequences of Adam's sin—spiritual death and condemnation—and gave to all who believe in Jesus the gift of eternal life through His sacrificial death (vv.18-19).
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Romero on August 02, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
My parents have been to Graceland. My mother especially has always been a huge fan.



Elvis was a great gospel singer and had much success with several albums. Gospel was a large influence from an early age.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2014, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: "Romero"My parents have been to Graceland. My mother especially has always been a huge fan.



Elvis was a great gospel singer and had much success with several albums. Gospel was a large influence from an early age.

Elvis Presley died long before I was born, but from what I read he was not very religious. In fact, I thought he invented the rock and or roll lifestyle?



I admit I could be dead wrong about this, but this is MY understanding. Correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Romero on August 03, 2014, 12:44:37 AM
There are conflicting accounts on how religious he was. Seemed to have an 'on and off again' relationship at times with Christianity and never took it seriously. He apparently liked to learn about other religions and spirituality.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: cc on August 03, 2014, 11:16:22 AM
You got me goin with that crap



I know of no conflict within him ... maybe in some writers, reporters or people who knew him a bit and wanted attention for themselves minds only.  From all I have read, studied and listened to and observed, throughout his career and whenever he could he would consistently spin off into gospel music ... the "soul" kind of gospel music.



When just jammin, he was known to always slide into it until it took over the session



 Not only do it, but do it with powerful feeling. My impression  always was that he was a deep and genuine believer at all times ... period ... he was transformed instantly in the first line of a gospel song into a different being. He consistently defined "deep belief" like no one I have ever known of



Listen to his work, watch his face and posture positions when doing one ... it all screamed of "humble"  throughout in total 180 degree contrast with his love songs and deep rock songs  ... whether a gospel song or a purely inspirational song  and tell me he was not a DEEP believer. Actually I'm amazed anyone would question that. It was always just "obvious" ... a "given" ... as I saw it ... from before he became known  (day one) to the end



Conflicted with daily life, yes .... with his deep belief, no - writers or reporters gotta write, speculators gotta speculate, eh?




Here's one that is mainly inspirational but based on deep belief - believe? Yup!







hmmm .. thought I knew this routine - lost my touch posting video? - Sorry couldn't find "in-concert" for all



If I Can Dream (//http)



I believe (//http)



Peace in the Valley (//https)
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: cc on August 03, 2014, 12:08:03 PM
In-Concert Medley (//https)



I came in later in his career, liked him so studied up on him. Mostly liked the true original Memphis Blues / Rock  ... them some of the slow love songs started to grow on me  ... then, while not a outward religious type I came to respect his powerful and humble belief reflected in his gospel stuff ... as part of his "person".



From all I have studied, any thought he had mixed feeling is garbage and an insult to his "consistent" sincerity throughout his career. Yes, the last cpl of years were sad as he allowed his handlers to destroy him, but I choose to think about the real man who died a cpl of years before the official date.



Many don't know but he was one of the earliest and strongest supporters of blacks long before that was fashionable .. jeopardizing his career by always having tremendous black backup females ... always he loved being midst blacks. His talent, personality and strong beliefs prevailed. I swear, with his ability to sing and move with true feeling .. naturally ... unlike most all other whites .. with ingrained  rhythm and ability to move naturally to music  ... and an affinity toward blacks in that era ... it was like he was born black


Quote from: "Wiki" His energized interpretations of songs and sexually provocative performance style, combined with a singularly potent mix of influences across color lines that coincided with the dawn of the Civil Rights Movement, made him enormously popular—and controversial.

Face fat showing from all the drugs fed to him to keep him performing, his deep-rooted believe is still obvious



Why Me Lord ( Fantasy Concert in Memphis 1974) (//https)



From the Hawaii Concert (a fav of mine) 73, before the toll was taken



This time Lord, You gave me a mountain (//https)



writers or reporters gotta write, speculators gotta speculate, eh?
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2014, 02:12:30 PM
^It appears we have someone who is a true Elvis expert. Look, I know next to nothing about Mr. Presley other than the impersonators I see when I am in Vegas. I had heard he was a womanizer, a heavy drinker and a junkie. Again, I could be dead wrong, but I thought he lived the rock and roll lifestyle with the best of them.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: cc on August 03, 2014, 02:57:22 PM
Not an "expert", but have made a point to know about his life and music - I hate that word  lol. I see it as derived from 2 words - "Ex" & "Spurt"



Anyhow, he was the opposite of all that ... a loner .. often a brooder locked inside his mind in fact



Never heard of any drinking nor street drugging. In effect, he did allow himself to be very slowly sucked in by his "new" handlers in late 73 who fed him prescription drugs to keep him going at a breakneck pace = lots of bucks for them ... trying to make the gravy train continue at breakneck pace. When a few upper type drugs were not enough to keep him going, then added more ... until there was nothing left of him but a bloat faced tragedy that I found too difficult  to look at.



He was at the top of his game in early 73 (Aloha concert one of his best .. alive, having fun, showing just how good he was). His entire career was slowly and carefully paced and he shone. Then a new group of greedy inhumane handlers took over and slowly killed  him



Just before that started - On his game although early signs of drug weight gain

This time Lord, You gave me a mountain (//https)



Here is the real deal at top of his game (//https) Start slow and slowly build to fever pitch .. "timing" ... "speed / mood changes"  I have seen in only a cpl of other great artists
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: cc on August 03, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
My all time favorite - the "in the round segment of his 68 Comeback" ... relaxed, candid, making fun of himself ... showing his personality and humility  ..goofin around for all to see in an intimate setting .. showing that while others took him seriously - He did not



Starts at 3.40 > 22 minutes ..... immediately followed a turn to the religious lead off by his favorite (and fabulous)   dancer (a very african black of course)



Back to casual "in the round" at 30.20 > 52.40



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqKQ5OxYofE



Black leather .... cc goes pant pant  ...  :evil:
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"Not an "expert", but have made a point to know about his life and music - I hate that word  lol. I see it as derived from 2 words - "Ex" & "Spurt"



Anyhow, he was the opposite of all that ... a loner .. often a brooder locked inside his mind in fact



Never heard of any drinking nor street drugging. In effect, he did allow himself to be very slowly sucked in by his "new" handlers in late 73 who fed him prescription drugs to keep him going at a breakneck pace = lots of bucks for them ... trying to make the gravy train continue at breakneck pace. When a few upper type drugs were not enough to keep him going, then added more ... until there was nothing left of him but a bloat faced tragedy that I found too difficult  to look at.



He was at the top of his game in early 73 (Aloha concert one of his best .. alive, having fun, showing just how good he was). His entire career was slowly and carefully paced and he shone. Then a new group of greedy inhumane handlers took over and slowly killed  him



Just before that started - On his game although early signs of drug weight gain

This time Lord, You gave me a mountain (//https)



Here is the real deal at top of his game (//https) Start slow and slowly build to fever pitch .. "timing" ... "speed / mood changes"  I have seen in only a cpl of other great artists

You may not be an "expert" about Mr. Presley, but let's face facts, you know more than the average person. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up about him. I was under the impression Elvis was a wild man.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2014, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: "Romero"There are conflicting accounts on how religious he was. Seemed to have an 'on and off again' relationship at times with Christianity and never took it seriously. He apparently liked to learn about other religions and spirituality.

That sounds very similar to Scott Stapp, the vocalist for Creed.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Romero on August 04, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"You got me goin with that crap

So combative over just an opinion!



It's fine that you have the impression Elvis was a deep and genuine believer at all times, but there's not much evidence to support it. For instance, he married Priscilla at a Las Vegas hotel officiated by a justice, not at a church. Elvis at the time was fascinated by Eastern religions and the Occult, and days after the wedding Priscilla convinced him to burn all his religious books.



So he wasn't at all times deeply Christian or religious.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Romero on August 04, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Romero"There are conflicting accounts on how religious he was. Seemed to have an 'on and off again' relationship at times with Christianity and never took it seriously. He apparently liked to learn about other religions and spirituality.

That sounds very similar to Scott Stapp, the vocalist for Creed.

Yes, he's been quite troubled in recent years. Very sad.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2014, 07:59:50 PM
Today's devotional is titled Power Of Simplicity.

Few people take time to study the US Internal Revenue Service income tax regulations—and for good reason. According to Forbes magazine, in 2013 tax codes surpassed the four million-word mark. In fact, the tax laws have become so complex that even the experts have a hard time processing all the regulations. It's burdensome in its complexity.



The religious leaders in ancient Israel did the same thing in their relationship with God. They made it too complex with laws. The growing burden of religious regulations had increased to the point where even an expert in Moses' law struggled to understand its core. When one such leader asked Jesus what mattered most in the Commandments, Jesus responded, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these" (Mark 12:30-31).



The law of Moses was burdensome, but faith in Christ is simple and His "burden is light" (Matt. 11:30). It's light because God was willing to forgive us and love us. Now He enables us to love Him and our neighbor.

I love Thee because Thou hast first loved me,

And purchased my pardon on Calvary's tree;

I love Thee for wearing the thorns on Thy brow;

If ever I loved Thee, my Jesus, 'tis now. —Featherstone



God's love in our heart gives us a heart for Him and others.



Insight

In Christ's answer to the scribe in Mark 12:29, He quotes the "Shema" from Deuteronomy 6:4 which states, "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one." The title "shema" is from the Hebrew word for hear. One source says this statement of the oneness of God is recited twice each day by observant Jews and is the most important part of Judaism's prayer services.
Title: Re: Christian Corner
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2014, 08:02:48 PM
Today's devotional is titled Our Foundation.



The Bavarian city of Nördlingen is unique. It sits in the middle of the Ries Crater, a large circular depression caused by the impact of a huge meteorite a long time ago. The immense pressure of the impact resulted in unusual crystallized rock and millions of microscopic diamonds. In the 13th century, these speckled stones were used to build St. George's Church. Visitors can see the beautiful crystal deposits in its foundation and walls. Some might say it has a heavenly foundation.



The Bible talks of a different kind of heavenly foundation. The Lord Jesus came to our world from heaven (John 3:13). When He went back into heaven after His death and resurrection, He left His followers who became the "living temple" of God, of which He is the foundation. The apostle Paul says, "For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1 Cor. 3:11).



The church building in Bavaria is built on a foundation from pieces of rock from the physical heavens. But the spiritual church—all believers in Christ—is founded on the ultimate heavenly foundation, Christ Jesus (Isa. 28:16; 1 Cor. 10:3-4). Praise God that because of what Jesus has done our salvation is secure.

On Christ salvation rests secure;

The Rock of Ages will endure;

Nor can that faith be overthrown

Which rests upon the "Living Stone." —Anon.



Christ, the Rock, is our sure hope.



Insight

In today's passage, Paul uses both agricultural and architectural metaphors to warn of an overreliance and dependence on church leaders. Using an agricultural metaphor, he reminds us that while human leaders do the planting and watering, God alone can make the church grow (1 Cor. 3:1-9). And with the architectural metaphor of a building, Paul warns that no human leader is the founder of the church (vv.10-11). God alone is the founder and foundation.