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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Wazzzup on March 26, 2018, 03:23:58 PM

Title: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Wazzzup on March 26, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/22/americans-are-drinking-themselves-to-death-at-record-rates/?utm_term=.ef33f74fde15



[size=150]Americans are drinking themselves to death at record rates[/size]


QuoteAlcohol is killing Americans at a rate not seen in at least 35 years, according to new federal data. Last year, more than 30,700 Americans died from alcohol-induced causes, including alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis, which is primarily caused by alcohol use.



In 2014, there were 9.6 deaths from these alcohol-induced causes per 100,000 people, an increase of 37 percent since 2002.



 

This tally of alcohol-induced fatalities excludes deaths from drunk driving, other accidents, and homicides committed under the influence of alcohol. If those numbers were included the annual toll of deaths directly or indirectly caused by alcohol would be closer to 90,000, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Where is a march for banning alcohol? we really need one ASAP!  90,000 lives per year are at stake.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: realgrimm on March 26, 2018, 03:49:47 PM
There will always be alcohol so the government needs it's cut .. I'm from Canada remember they rape us before we buy it  ac_dance  ac_dance



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Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Blazor on March 26, 2018, 03:54:08 PM
They tried this once lol.



Only the government poisoned the alcohol, and even more people died. Cant trust big brother!



(I know this thread is in response to Brick's anti-gun threads lol)
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: realgrimm on March 26, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
Russian has alcohol bans all the time or they raise the prices so high the lower class can't afford it, they resort to making bathtub chemical brew and drinking bath oil ..lol...RIP   :laugh3:  :laugh3:  





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Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 26, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
Thining of the herd.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: realgrimm on March 26, 2018, 04:15:48 PM
and then theres Odi





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Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 26, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
Another in the long line of vacuous arguments proffered by the "I want a gun" lobby.



If something other than a gun kills you, and its legal, then guns should be legal.



Here's some American hypocrisy for you; America doesn't want North Korea or Iran to possess nukes, despite the fact that as sovereign nations, it is their right to do so. But America doesn't think they are responsible and sensible nations, and so wants to prevent them from acquiring them.



Meanwhile, any lunatic in the US can purchase firearms, because it is their right to do so, and if people get killed, tough.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 26, 2018, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/22/americans-are-drinking-themselves-to-death-at-record-rates/?utm_term=.ef33f74fde15



[size=150]Americans are drinking themselves to death at record rates[/size]


QuoteAlcohol is killing Americans at a rate not seen in at least 35 years, according to new federal data. Last year, more than 30,700 Americans died from alcohol-induced causes, including alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis, which is primarily caused by alcohol use.



In 2014, there were 9.6 deaths from these alcohol-induced causes per 100,000 people, an increase of 37 percent since 2002.



 

This tally of alcohol-induced fatalities excludes deaths from drunk driving, other accidents, and homicides committed under the influence of alcohol. If those numbers were included the annual toll of deaths directly or indirectly caused by alcohol would be closer to 90,000, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Where is a march for banning alcohol? we really need one ASAP!  90,000 lives per year are at stake.

I would like alcohol banned, but it will never happen and I know it will have consequences.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 26, 2018, 06:40:31 PM
There is no basis for banning alcohol, because it is a matter of personal choice.



It is part of society, which 90% of people can enjoy without any problem at all.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 26, 2018, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"There is no basis for banning alcohol, because it is a matter of personal choice.



It is part of society, which 90% of people can enjoy without any problem at all.

I accept the idea is off the table.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 26, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
America tried it.



It didn't work.



Oddly, in order to implement prohibition, the American constitution had to be amended..."the brewing industry was shut down in state after state by the legislatures and finally nationwide under the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution"...the same Constitution that they claim cannot be amended to prohibit private gun ownership.



More lies from the gun lobby.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 26, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
The last amendment to the American constitution delays laws affecting Congressional salary from taking effect until after the next election of representatives..



It was submitted  for ratification September 25, 1789 and ratified on May 5, 1992.....202 years, 7 months and 10 days later.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 26, 2018, 08:23:07 PM
The point being that the Constitution that they hide behind as a god-given, never to be challenged RIGHT to possess a firearm is just a piece of paper.



They will use any fatuous justification just to feel BIG with a gun.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 26, 2018, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"The last amendment to the American constitution delays laws affecting Congressional salary from taking effect until after the next election of representatives..



It was submitted  for ratification September 25, 1789 and ratified on May 5, 1992.....202 years, 7 months and 10 days later.

American politics moves like a glacier in a cold winter. I don't expect another amendment ever.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 26, 2018, 08:58:10 PM
Self interest is the dominant force in American politics.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 26, 2018, 09:16:15 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Self interest is the dominant force in American politics.

And Canadian. Our democracy, just like the states, desperately needs reform.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 26, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
And Australia.



We're no different or better.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Wazzzup on March 27, 2018, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"There is no basis for banning alcohol, because it is a matter of personal choice.



It is part of society, which 90% of people can enjoy without any problem at all.


You could have said exactly the same about guns.  90% who won them never hurt anyone with them.  they  are also a part of society, and a more important one than alcohol.  You cannot protect your loved ones and your life in your home with scotch.  If you are threatened or stalked by an ex you cannot use merlot to protect yourself when you sleep at night.  If you own a store and someone is robbing it, you can't throw beer at them, well you could, but it probably won't work.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Wazzzup on March 27, 2018, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oddly, in order to implement prohibition, the American constitution had to be amended..."the brewing industry was shut down in state after state by the legislatures and finally nationwide under the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution"...the same Constitution that they claim cannot be amended to prohibit private gun ownership.



More lies from the gun lobby.
Two thirds of state legislatures would have to agree to an amendment to take a right  away a majority of americans want to keep, not going to happen.


Quote from: "Bricktop"America tried it.



It didn't work.


We did try it.  like you say didn't work.  We're doing it with drugs. I don't think I ever met  a single person over 18 who hadn't at least tried smoking pot.



Yet somehow making guns illegal will work perfectly.  No one will ever be shot again, and unicorns will poop rainbows as far as the eye can see. :laugh:
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Blazor on March 27, 2018, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"There is no basis for banning alcohol, because it is a matter of personal choice.



It is part of society, which 90% of people can enjoy without any problem at all.


Same could be said about guns, it is a part of society, which 99.9%  of people can enjoy without any problem at all. Its that .1% that gets trigger happy, prolly even less than that. Because if the population is 300,000,000, then .1% is 300,000. So more like .01%, and that is prolly including suicides and such.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Blazor on March 27, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"There is no basis for banning alcohol, because it is a matter of personal choice.



It is part of society, which 90% of people can enjoy without any problem at all.


You could have said exactly the same about guns.  90% who won them never hurt anyone with them.  they  are also a part of society, and a more important one than alcohol.  You cannot protect your loved ones and your life in your home with scotch.  If you are threatened or stalked by an ex you cannot use merlot to protect yourself when you sleep at night.  If you own a store and someone is robbing it, you can't throw beer at them, well you could, but it probably won't work.


Lol, you just made almost the same post I did  :laugh:
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 27, 2018, 07:45:49 PM
That is still 10 TIMES more than the average for other western nations.



What is it about America that 30,000 people die from firearms a year?
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 27, 2018, 08:07:20 PM
How about guns and alcohol are both bad for society?
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 27, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Many things are bad for society, but as a society we accept them because their benefit outweighs their detriment.



Guns have no net benefit.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 27, 2018, 09:17:47 PM
There are countries where alcohol is verboten. I would not want to visit any of them let alone live there.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 27, 2018, 09:38:43 PM
And there are more countries where firearms are forbidden. Would you visit them?



Personally, I'd never travel to a country where I can't order a single malt and a bacon sandwich.



I've only spent time in two muslim countries, Malaysia and Indonesia. Travelled through Bahrain, Abu Dahbi, Egypt, Yemen. Thought they were horrible places.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 27, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"And there are more countries where firearms are forbidden. Would you visit them?



Personally, I'd never travel to a country where I can't order a single malt and a bacon sandwich.



I've only spent time in two muslim countries, Malaysia and Indonesia. Travelled through Bahrain, Abu Dahbi, Egypt, Yemen. Thought they were horrible places.

You went to Yemen? What in the hell for?
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 28, 2018, 12:45:06 AM
Only way to travel from Europe to the Asia pacific region in 1959.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 28, 2018, 05:46:03 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Only way to travel from Europe to the Asia pacific region in 1959.

Your ship stopped in those countries and you remember them?
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 28, 2018, 08:13:37 AM
Oh, yes...it was an amazing adventure...India, Egypt, Yemen...coming from England it was seeing another world. The Suez Canal was only one ship wide in those days, so the space between the ship and the canal bank was a few metres. Locals would walk on the pathway and so you'd see camels, donkeys, and of course, Egyptians just a few feet away going about their daily business.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 28, 2018, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, yes...it was an amazing adventure...India, Egypt, Yemen...coming from England it was seeing another world. The Suez Canal was only one ship wide in those days, so the space between the ship and the canal bank was a few metres. Locals would walk on the pathway and so you'd see camels, donkeys, and of course, Egyptians just a few feet away going about their daily business.

How long was the journey by ship back then?
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: kiebers on March 28, 2018, 01:21:43 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, yes...it was an amazing adventure...India, Egypt, Yemen...coming from England it was seeing another world. The Suez Canal was only one ship wide in those days, so the space between the ship and the canal bank was a few metres. Locals would walk on the pathway and so you'd see camels, donkeys, and of course, Egyptians just a few feet away going about their daily business.

How long was the journey by ship back then?

Galley ships with oars could only make about 10 knots so it probably took a while.





 :rimshot:
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 28, 2018, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, yes...it was an amazing adventure...India, Egypt, Yemen...coming from England it was seeing another world. The Suez Canal was only one ship wide in those days, so the space between the ship and the canal bank was a few metres. Locals would walk on the pathway and so you'd see camels, donkeys, and of course, Egyptians just a few feet away going about their daily business.

How long was the journey by ship back then?

Galley ships with oars could only make about 10 knots so it probably took a while.





 :rimshot:

 :MG_216:
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Blazor on March 28, 2018, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Galley ships with oars could only make about 10 knots so it probably took a while.





 :rimshot:


 :roll:
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Wazzzup on March 28, 2018, 03:42:45 PM
Knives killed 4 times as many people as rifles in 2015  and 2016



https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-20

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-12



Knife control, think of all the lives that could be saved!



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Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 28, 2018, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Oh, yes...it was an amazing adventure...India, Egypt, Yemen...coming from England it was seeing another world. The Suez Canal was only one ship wide in those days, so the space between the ship and the canal bank was a few metres. Locals would walk on the pathway and so you'd see camels, donkeys, and of course, Egyptians just a few feet away going about their daily business.

How long was the journey by ship back then?


6 weeks.



6 loooooong, tedious and wasted weeks.
Title: Re: Banning Alcohol would save 90,000 lives a year in the US
Post by: Bricktop on March 28, 2018, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Galley ships with oars could only make about 10 knots so it probably took a while.





 :rimshot:


Haw haw...laugh it up, wrinkly.

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