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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Angry White Male on April 08, 2018, 02:59:42 AM

Title: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 08, 2018, 02:59:42 AM
You're fucking old enough to remember them, but did Australia use them also?
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 08, 2018, 04:47:58 AM
Nope. We carried standard .38 rounds.  Nothing special.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 09, 2018, 01:05:11 AM
I see.  Just curious, as I have one old round that my stepfather kept from the good old revolver days.



Federal .38 +P Semi wadcutter hollow point. (RCMP never issued Magnums as far as I know).



Thought I'd look up this particular round, and found out that they call it the "FBI Load," which is oddly enough still available today.



It was the most reliable manstopper at that time, in an era of .38 special revolvers.



I am surprised you were issued .357 Magnum revolvers.  Not even all jurisdictions in the US allowed or permitted them, and the RCMP didn't either.  .357 Magnum is a pretty powerful round, and some had issues with proficiencies with such powerful rounds.



All history though, as 9mm semi-auto's came along and changed issue side-arms forever.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 01:34:17 AM
We liked the magnums.



People being naughty tended to calm down quickly when they saw one...especially if it was out of the holster.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 09, 2018, 01:40:29 AM
In the US, officers would often qualify with nice easy .38 rounds, but then chamber .357 Magnum rounds for duty carry.



That actually became a problem though, in the US, as proficiency is expected at all times, with all rounds.  Just another reason why the 9mm pistol was adopted!



Remember also, that that was the period when teh womenz also starting joining the force in numbers...  .357 Magnum is a fairly hard kicking round for the average man.  Some 5' 2" woman?  LOLZ!
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 02:16:58 AM
Precisely why it was dropped here. The girlies couldn't fire them, let alone carry them.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 09, 2018, 03:31:30 AM
Everyone is going back to 9mm, as the technology now makes them one of the the most effective rounds available!



The Germans just make good things!
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 09, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"We liked the magnums.



People being naughty tended to calm down quickly when they saw one...especially if it was out of the holster.


"An armed society is a polite society"  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 06:59:07 PM
Well, people were pretty polite when the S&W was pointing at them.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 09, 2018, 07:24:31 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Well, people were pretty polite when the S&W was pointing at them.


 :laugh:





My son has been open carrying lately, he says people treat him better, more polite.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
The trouble with that, of course, is that its the gun that defines the relationship, not the people.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 09, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"The trouble with that, of course, is that its the gun that defines the relationship, not the people.


Honestly, people are assholes these days, mostly cause they think they can get away with shit... "I'll never see him again anyway" type shit. I blame social media for shit like that, drive by insults and such. People need to check themselves before they wreck themselves.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 07:49:08 PM
Guns will hardly remedy that!!!
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 09, 2018, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Guns will hardly remedy that!!!


Nah, but if you think about it, back in the day, more folks carried, and they were more polite to a degree. Less carry these days I think, and there are more assholes. The gun to asshole ratio is off kilter  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
Man, I'm glad I don't live in a society where guns dictate social conduct.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 09, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Man, I'm glad I don't live in a society where guns dictate social conduct.


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You're right, and Im glad. Looks amazing!





Now go through this area too, without a gun....



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Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 09, 2018, 11:45:22 PM
Nope. I drove past South Central LA once...I wouldn't go there without an M1 Abrahams.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 10, 2018, 12:14:47 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"My son has been open carrying lately, he says people treat him better, more polite.

Most of the experts tend to recommend against this practice, citing concealed carry instead as the optimal choice, provided one lives where this can be lawfully done.



Then again, I suppose where on lives could be a determining factor also...  In a large metropolitan city, concealed would be ideal.  If it's just some small town of 'good old boys' deep down South, open carry probably wouldn't raise an eyebrow.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 10, 2018, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Nope. I drove past South Central LA once...I wouldn't go there without an M1 Abrahams.


 :laugh:
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 10, 2018, 10:11:48 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Most of the experts tend to recommend against this practice, citing concealed carry instead as the optimal choice, provided one lives where this can be lawfully done.



Then again, I suppose where on lives could be a determining factor also...  In a large metropolitan city, concealed would be ideal.  If it's just some small town of 'good old boys' deep down South, open carry probably wouldn't raise an eyebrow.


Here, its a mix. Roanoke is small, and I wouldnt recommend carrying downtown to a degree, unless you want officers eyeing you, but in the rural areas, and the sticks, totally acceptable.



Why do they say not to? The Snowflakes lol?
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 10:23:19 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Nope. I drove past South Central LA once...I wouldn't go there without an M1 Abrahams.

All of California sucks.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Bricktop on April 10, 2018, 07:14:04 PM
We shared a tour bus with some white wrinklies from Florida.



Detestable people. Treated the Afghan bus driver like a dog.



I don't know about Californians, though.



I don't speak Spanish.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 02:04:50 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"Why do they say not to? The Snowflakes lol?

True self-defense experts believe that you should not advertise what, if any, abilities you have to defend yourself.



I can see the advantage in this, especially in larger cities.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Blazor on April 11, 2018, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Blazor"Why do they say not to? The Snowflakes lol?

True self-defense experts believe that you should not advertise what, if any, abilities you have to defend yourself.



I can see the advantage in this, especially in larger cities.


Ah ok, I see what you're saying. We were taught that in karate class. Not to assume the natural position of combat, but a loosely based one so the attacker doesnt know you are about to pull some serious shit  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 12, 2018, 02:46:50 AM
Even Clint conceals now!







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLdIKlXl3ZA
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2018, 03:02:46 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"Even Clint conceals now!







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLdIKlXl3ZA

That was a good movie.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 12, 2018, 03:12:03 AM
It was.
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2018, 03:32:52 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"It was.

Million Dollar Baby was good too,
Title: Re: Bricktop! Remember the old .38 +P 'FBI' loads?
Post by: Angry White Male on April 12, 2018, 03:53:16 AM
Never seen it!



Will check it out!



Gotta be up in a few short hours, against my will...  rest well Fash.
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