Title: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 04:04:18 PM
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 04:04:18 PM
Officials in Los Angeles have been painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands" and combat the effects of climate change.
The LA Street Services began rolling out the project last May, which preliminary testing shows has reduced the temperature of roadways by up to 10 degrees. The project involves applying a light gray coating of the product CoolSeal, made by the company GuardTop.
While each coasting could can last up to seven years, they are also pricey, with the estimated cost of $40,000 per mile, the L.A. Daily News reported.
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Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 04:06:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 04:06:41 PM
California officials are hoping their latest attempt to stem the rising tides of climate change leads to a more socially conscious -- and cooler -- summer.Quote from: "cc"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1523372114843.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.c%20...%20?ve=1&tl=1%22%3Ehttp://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1523372114843.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Officials in Los Angeles have been painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands" and combat the effects of climate change.
The LA Street Services began rolling out the project last May, which preliminary testing shows has reduced the temperature of roadways by up to 10 degrees. The project involves applying a light gray coating of the product CoolSeal, made by the company GuardTop.
[OK, L.A. paints streets white to reflect heat - so now tell me where the reflected heat goes?:confused1: ]
It's less pain than a carbon tax.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 04:09:46 PM
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 04:09:46 PM
Where does the reflected heat go other than into the surrounding air .. which is what they are trying to cool from streets heating?
From a physics perspective ... yes hot streets heat surrounding air. How does cooling streets by reflecting heat into surrounding air cool surrounding air?
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 04:13:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 04:13:27 PM
Maybe. But how does it do any more good than none?Quote from: "cc"
Where does the reflected heat go other than into the surrounding air .. which is what they are trying to cool from streets heating?
I don't know cc..
Some of the ways politicians
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 04:16:38 PM
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 04:16:38 PM
Short of defeating simple physics with magic, sure sounds like another "climate" money scam to me
And the irony is that Cali and LA are broke ... now going deeper in dept at US$ 40,000 / mile
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Maybe they use magic?Quote from: "cc"
Short of defeating simple physics with magic, suresounds like another "climate" money scam to me
And the irony is that Cali and LA are broke
It is.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 05:59:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2018, 05:59:39 PM
California officials are hoping their latest attempt to stem the rising tides of climate change leads to a more socially conscious -- and cooler -- summer.Quote from: "cc"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1523372114843.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.c%20...%20?ve=1&tl=1%22%3Ehttp://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1523372114843.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Officials in Los Angeles have been painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands" and combat the effects of climate change.
The LA Street Services began rolling out the project last May, which preliminary testing shows has reduced the temperature of roadways by up to 10 degrees. The project involves applying a light gray coating of the product CoolSeal, made by the company GuardTop.
While each coasting could can last up to seven years, they are also pricey, with the estimated cost of $40,000 per mile, the L.A. Daily News reported.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-9/inline_spotlight_ima/image.img.jpg/612/344/1523372302173.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.c%20...%20?ve=1&tl=1%22%3Ehttp://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-9/inline_spotlight_ima/image.img.jpg/612/344/1523372302173.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
[OK, Paint streets white to reflect heat - I get that. So now tell me where the reflected heat goes?:confused1: ]
What a waste of money.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Wazzzup on April 10, 2018, 06:13:34 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on April 10, 2018, 06:13:34 PM
Democrats have a supermajority in both legislatures and ultra liberal Jerry Brown is the governor
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So you have a state swamped with debt, that has some of the highest taxes and some of the worst poverty trying to figure out more ways to spend money (spending money is fun, wheee!)
California is going to crash and burn. Its just a question of how long will it take.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Bricktop on April 10, 2018, 07:04:14 PM
Post by: Bricktop on April 10, 2018, 07:04:14 PM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 10, 2018, 08:00:21 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 10, 2018, 08:00:21 PM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Bricktop on April 10, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Post by: Bricktop on April 10, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 09:58:27 PM
Post by: cc on April 10, 2018, 09:58:27 PM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 11, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 11, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
Stop putting ashfelt and concrete everywhere.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Take it all out and rebuild with hemp.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 02:47:25 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 02:47:25 AM
Although you'd better have a hose ready in South Central LA, as the blood from the daily Negro gang shootings will be highly visible upon a white background...
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 02:49:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 02:49:47 AM
White streets? NICE! The colour of my people!Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Didn't the BC NDP government just raise the provincial carbon tax?
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 02:56:47 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 02:56:47 AM
Good thing I'm competing against lots of immigrants here that will work for nothing, so I can't increase my rates! Just means I'm making a little less now.
One more reason to get out of this immigrant infested dump. Rates are $25 to $50/hour higher in non-immigrant infested Canadian towns.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 02:59:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 02:59:35 AM
Yup! On my M.R. Smith Diesel invoice, it states an increase for Diesel carbon tax from 7.67 cents/liter to 8.95 cents/liter. Gasoline up from 6.67 to 7.78 cents/liter.Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Good thing I'm competing against lots of immigrants here that will work for nothing, so I can't increase my rates! Just means I'm making a little less now.
One more reason to get out of this immigrant infested dump. Rates are $25 to $50/hour higher in non-immigrant infested Canadian towns.
You can feel good knowing you are saving the planet.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 03:03:04 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on April 11, 2018, 03:03:04 AM
This means that I make less and less, year after year, for doing the same work.
Welcome to the nation of stagnation. Canada never used to be such a shithole... something changed.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 11, 2018, 04:36:45 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 11, 2018, 04:36:45 AM
Good thing I'm competing against lots of immigrants here that will work for nothing, .
Sadly, this is true.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 03:11:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2018, 03:11:31 PM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Doug Ford is about to change climate change policy for the whole country — and it's about time
Ford's priorities will lead to an inevitable showdown over Ottawa's carbon-pricing mandate
Doug Ford's victory in the Ontario Progressive Conservative leadership race changes the national climate policy picture in a significant way. Not because he is opposed to carbon taxes: Many other federal and provincial politicians are as well. What makes Ford different is his willingness to declare that he sees climate change as a secondary issue in comparison to basic bread-and-butter economic priorities.
Lots of politicians agree, but they are too nervous to say so. They find it safer to nod along with the loudest voices on the other side, whose righteous crusade against (as they see it) planet-destroying fossil fuels leads them to believe that any policy, no matter how extreme and costly, is never enough.
Ford's realism may inspire others to join him. And his view is well in line with expert opinion. The most recent report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, after surveying the projected costs and benefits of climate change, concluded: "For most economic sectors, the impact of climate change will be small relative to the impacts of other drivers... Changes in population, age, income, technology, relative prices, lifestyle, regulation, governance and many other aspects of socioeconomic development will have an impact on the supply and demand of economic goods and services that is large relative to the impact of climate change."
In other words, when it comes to the things that truly affect peoples' day-to-day lives, climate change might belong on the list, but far down. Polls show that people have largely figured this out for themselves, with climate change consistently ranking far behind most other priorities.
Policy should reflect this. It is not rational to say that, because climate change might (in theory) create some problems for people a few decades from now, we should impose energy policies that will create much larger problems for them now. Unfortunately, that is what plans like the Paris treaty oblige us to do.
It is even less rational once you realize that the policies are futile. The same models that say global warming is a problem also say that Paris-type measures will not fix it. If Canada and all the other signatories do what they say they plan to do, the effect on the climate by the end of the century will be minuscule at best, despite the heavy economic costs.
And, as with Kyoto before it, we can safely predict that the other signatories to Paris will not keep their promises. We especially need to take account of the fact that President Donald Trump's decision to pull the United States out of Paris has changed the situation for Canada. The U.S. is ramping up its economic competitiveness through energy-sector deregulation and an abandonment of former president Barack Obama's climate goals. We ignore this at our peril.
Ontario energy and climate policy needs to be rooted in current reality, not wishful thinking about what a subsequent U.S. president might someday do. We should pursue environmental policies that yield actual benefits at reasonable costs while supporting economic growth and job creation. That is how we used to approach the issue, and it resulted in decades of improvements in air and water quality, alongside continued economic growth.
The last few years, by contrast, have been marked by costly and futile gestures (like the Ontario Green Energy Act) that are more about moralistic symbolism than improving peoples' lives.
Ford's priorities will lead to an inevitable showdown over Ottawa's carbon-pricing mandate. In reality, this is a minor issue and deserves to be treated as such. It is not Ford's problem that the Liberal federal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau embraced the Paris treaty without a plan to achieve its targets, much less a national consensus that doing so is worth the cost. The provinces are within their rights to tell the feds that if they want a carbon tax, they will have to impose it themselves and face the political consequences, not make the provinces do it for them.
Ottawa will object, of course, but if it cracks down it will find itself in the position of ignoring British Columbia's pipeline obstruction, while forcing unpopular green taxes on everyone else. Perhaps that reflects its priorities, but I am doubtful it matches those of the general public.
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2018, 05:41:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2018, 05:41:06 PM
Title: Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
Post by: Anonymous on April 13, 2018, 05:16:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 13, 2018, 05:16:24 PM
California officials are hoping their latest attempt to stem the rising tides of climate change leads to a more socially conscious -- and cooler -- summer.Quote from: "cc"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1523372114843.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.c%20...%20?ve=1&tl=1%22%3Ehttp://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1523372114843.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Officials in Los Angeles have been painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands" and combat the effects of climate change.
The LA Street Services began rolling out the project last May, which preliminary testing shows has reduced the temperature of roadways by up to 10 degrees. The project involves applying a light gray coating of the product CoolSeal, made by the company GuardTop.
While each coasting could can last up to seven years, they are also pricey, with the estimated cost of $40,000 per mile, the L.A. Daily News reported.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-9/inline_spotlight_ima/image.img.jpg/612/344/1523372302173.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.c%20...%20?ve=1&tl=1%22%3Ehttp://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-9/inline_spotlight_ima/image.img.jpg/612/344/1523372302173.jpg?ve=1&tl=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
[OK, Paint streets white to reflect heat - I get that. So now tell me where the reflected heat goes?:confused1: ]
Kalifornia is as creative as Ontario at wasting taxpayers money with the stale excuse of fighting climate change.