I haven't seen many details yet, but it sounds messy to say the least.
//http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/paramount-resources-zama-city-pipeline-leak-1.4621904
My condolences to all the good folks here who are involved in this so-called "business." The corporatists down here continue apace with similar practices and similar results, and I am troubled.
Just thought I'd drop by and offer some thoughts and prayers.
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//http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/paramount-resources-zama-city-pipeline-leak-1.4621904
My condolences to all the good folks here who are involved in this so-called "business." The corporatists down here continue apace with similar practices and similar results, and I am troubled.
Just thought I'd drop by and offer some thoughts and prayers.
Condolences?? Wow, the TIDES billionaires own your ass.
1800 barrels is nothing. Cleaned up in a few days. Pipeline spills are rare, cleaned up better than new and act as an economic stimulus for area. Plus the old line is replaced. Win-win.
FAIL for the libtard shill. ac_lmfao
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//http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/paramount-resources-zama-city-pipeline-leak-1.4621904
My condolences to all the good folks here who are involved in this so-called "business." The corporatists down here continue apace with similar practices and similar results, and I am troubled.
Just thought I'd drop by and offer some thoughts and prayers.
Condolences?? Wow, the TIDES billionaires own your ass.
1800 barrels is nothing. Cleaned up in a few days. Pipeline spills are rare, cleaned up better than new and act as an economic stimulus for area. Plus the old line is replaced. Win-win.
FAIL for the libtard shill. ac_lmfao
I don't know how it works up there, but down here the pipeline companies charge the government for cleaning up their own spills. I don't think that translates to "economic stimulus for the area" though.
^Wrong again homo.
Enbridge spent $1 billion on clean of Kalamazoo, plus millions of dollars in fines, plus millions of wetlands that didn't exist before. The state of Michigan won the lottery. Same here too. Companies pay, governments play.
Jesus, its like a cat playing with a ball of dumb wool.
Have mercy Shen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the best of times.
What's a little oil... It came from the ground, so what's a little leaking back in. Just mop it up, transport the contaminated ground to hazardous disposal facility, and carry on as normal.
There used to be a time when people would dump their used motor oil down the drain. We're still fine...
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Have mercy Shen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the best of times.
I think of some of the dangerous chemicals we have leaked and in areas of heavy population. Rich progressives don't hate freight rail the way they do North America producing oil. Therefore they don't use their billions to stymie railway workers the way they do pipeliners.
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Have mercy Shen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the best of times.
//https://thebluecashew.net/the-blue-cashew-f2/the-real-corporate-money-funding-anti-oilsands-propaganda-t8827.html#p250415
Maybe I'll make a meme out of this, ankle biter.
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Have mercy Shen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the best of times.
I think of some of the dangerous chemicals we have leaked and in areas of heavy population. Rich progressives don't hate freight rail the way they do North America producing oil. Therefore they don't use their billions to stymie railway workers the way they do pipeliners.
Don't give them new ideas for mischief, what they do already is bad enough.
BTW what is it with the lefties that they hate oil so much? What is with their oilophobia?
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Have mercy Shen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the best of times.
I think of some of the dangerous chemicals we have leaked and in areas of heavy population. Rich progressives don't hate freight rail the way they do North America producing oil. Therefore they don't use their billions to stymie railway workers the way they do pipeliners.
Don't give them new ideas for mischief, what they do already is bad enough.
BTW what is it with the lefties that they hate oil so much?
Hmmm, there only seems to be hatred of Canadian, and to a lesser extent American produced oil..
Here's a brief list of products made from petroleum.
Solvents Diesel fuel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides
Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher parts Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmets Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player (do people still have these?) Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap
Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant Footballs Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerants
Percolators Life jackassets Rubbing Alcohol Linings
Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician's Tape
Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint
Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters
Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair Coloring
Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick
Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber
Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin
Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice
Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint
Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards
Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains
Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses
Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses (I thought they were made from glass)
Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs
Combs CD's & DVD's Paint Brushes Detergents
Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses Tents
Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones
Enamel Pillows Dishes Cameras
Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages
Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers
Cold cream Movie film Soft Contact lenses Drinking Cups
Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia
Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste (Yuck) Gasoline
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
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Have mercy Shen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the best of times.
I think of some of the dangerous chemicals we have leaked and in areas of heavy population. Rich progressives don't hate freight rail the way they do North America producing oil. Therefore they don't use their billions to stymie railway workers the way they do pipeliners.
Don't give them new ideas for mischief, what they do already is bad enough.
BTW what is it with the lefties that they hate oil so much?
Hmmm, there only seems to be hatred of Canadian, and to a lesser extent American produced oil..
Here's a brief list of products made from petroleum.
Solvents Diesel fuel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides
Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher parts Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmets Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player (do people still have these?) Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap
Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant Footballs Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerants
Percolators Life jackassets Rubbing Alcohol Linings
Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician's Tape
Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint
Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters
Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair Coloring
Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick
Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber
Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin
Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice
Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint
Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards
Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains
Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses
Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses (I thought they were made from glass)
Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs
Combs CD's & DVD's Paint Brushes Detergents
Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses Tents
Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones
Enamel Pillows Dishes Cameras
Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages
Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers
Cold cream Movie film Soft Contact lenses Drinking Cups
Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia
Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste (Yuck) Gasoline
that's an amazing amount of stuff that can be made with oil products.
In the US the lefties often oppose drilling even in places like Alska where only a few caribou live. I remember Obama was opposed to the keystone pipeline but never even stated a good reason. He opposed drilling just about everywhere.
A lot of them are against fracking even though that has allowed us to become much more self sufficient, and drive gas prices down. They were determined to prove that fracking caused earthquakes and destroyed water supplies. neither of which it did.
It seems in canada the lefties reflexively oppose a lot of the pipelines. I guess because of potential spills but every energy source has its drawbacks.
I just don't understand why they are so fixated on hating oil. Most of them drive cars, where do they think the gas comes from?
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Maybe I'll make a meme out of this, ankle biter.
Before using cliches, epithets and colloquialisms, do yourself the favour of actually researching what they mean.
"Ankle biter" refers to very young children who haven't started walking yet.
In the context you've used it, it fails both as an insult or irony.
The "context" to which you refer would include the recent post I addressed to you, in which I referred to a puppy following me around and pissing on my ankles. I think the continuity is good and the choice of metaphor is more than sufficient for my purposes.
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You wish, ankle biter.
You really are tragically stupid.
By your own admission you returned here to confront ME, asshole.
Who's following who. I seem to recall you inviting me to retard central, aka CBT, to hold a discussion with you. How did that work out?
Stay in the shadows and snipe from safety, shitwick.
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Your own post fails to support this conclusion. Pay attention and I'll break it down for ya.
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Simply untrue and not supportable by any link you can provide. Either you're trolling clumsily or you really have a poor grasp of reality.
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In this case, it's my thread and you've posted several ad homs in it but added nothing to the topic. You tell me, pal, how an objective observer would answer that question.
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So far, you haven't stepped up -- evidently preferring to take your own advice below...v v v
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There you go projecting your own shit onto me. I've heard you're notorious for that.
I'm so sick of this shit. The thing I don't understand is they have been saying for years we are running out of oil and gas? But yet thruy want pipelines everywhere? If we are running out, why are we not switching over to renewable energy and evolving with That?
As far as corporations and government go...they are filled with old rich millionaires who could care less about the environment...theyre gonna die soon anyway.
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As far as corporations and government go...they are filled with old rich millionaires who could care less about the environment...theyre gonna die soon anyway.
We are not running out of oil and gas.
I assume by renewable you mean useless wind and solar made in China? Ya, like they won't turn China into a giant tailings pond.
The big money financing the renewable stupidity doesn't care about the environment anymore than they care about the middle class.To quote Seamajor from evs' froum, you've been "dooped".
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Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
As far as corporations and government go...they are filled with old rich millionaires who could care less about the environment...theyre gonna die soon anyway.
We are not running out of oil and gas.
I assume by renewable you mean useless wind and solar made in China? Ya, like they won't turn China into a giant tailings pond.
The big money financing the renewable stupidity doesn't care about the environment anymore than they care about the middle class.To quote Seamajor from evs' froum, you've been "dooped".
Or already switch over to a better energy source. There have been some fantastic inventions over time that have been hidden away...why are we not using them and advancing? Greed...money..yeah I know...
I know we are not running out..everything is bullshit. It's sad we can't advance into a better world.
Dunno about any "fantastic inventions that have been hidden away", but fossil fuels are here to stay.
As well as being economically nonviable, wind, solar are terrible polluters ... terrible polluters when being manufactured and then terrible polluters when being got rid of after physical failure .. failure that is usually sooner than later . . As Shen correctly said "a giant tailings ponds" result ... not to mention people having to pay huge power bills to keep them afloat financially .. those advocating their use not caring a whit about John & Jane regular folk trying to make ends meet for their families .... those people that so-called planet savers who have no use for not do not care about
Meantime great advances have been made in the area of reducing pollution, whether from fossil fueled vehicles or from fossil fueled power plants ... of course power produced by elevated water also helps greatly in areas where the right conditions exist .. BC being a great but unfortunately not too common an example .... if the right conditions for water power were more prevalent, electric would be viable financially and would reduce pollutants ... even electric cars would be viable ... but wind and solar are unsustainable financially and would break our economies ... not to mention breaking John & Jane regular folk
The bullshit comes from the wannabe planet savers who refuse to acknowledge that there is a price to pay for ALL forms of energy ... and that there is no magic bullet ... and that for the foreseeable future, the lower "overall" price to be paid by civilization is fossil fuel
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As well as being economically nonviable, wind, solar are terrible polluters ... terrible polluters when being manufactured and then terrible polluters when being got rid of after physical failure .. failure that is usually sooner than later . . As Shen correctly said "a giant tailings ponds" result ... not to mention people having to pay huge power bills to keep them afloat financially .. those advocating their use not caring a whit about John & Jane regular folk trying to make ends meet for their families .... those people that so-called planet savers who have no use for not do not care about
Meantime great advances have been made in the area of reducing pollution, whether from fossil fueled vehicles or from fossil fueled power plants ... of course power produced by elevated water also helps greatly in areas where the right conditions exist .. BC being a great but unfortunately not too common an example .... if the right conditions for water power were more prevalent, electric would be viable financially and would reduce pollutants ... even electric cars would be viable ... but wind and solar are unsustainable financially and would break our economies ... not to mention breaking John & Jane regular folk
The bullshit comes from the wannabe planet savers who refuse to acknowledge that there is a price to pay for ALL forms of energy ... and that there is no magic bullet ... and that for the foreseeable future, the lower "overall" price to be paid by civilization is fossil fuel
I will read this later...gotta jet out to a play tonight..
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
As far as corporations and government go...they are filled with old rich millionaires who could care less about the environment...theyre gonna die soon anyway.
We are not running out of oil and gas.
I assume by renewable you mean useless wind and solar made in China? Ya, like they won't turn China into a giant tailings pond.
The big money financing the renewable stupidity doesn't care about the environment anymore than they care about the middle class.To quote Seamajor from evs' froum, you've been "dooped".
Or already switch over to a better energy source. There have been some fantastic inventions over time that have been hidden away...why are we not using them and advancing? Greed...money..yeah I know...
I know we are not running out..everything is bullshit. It's sad we can't advance into a better world.
What is better/cheaper/cleaner than fossil fuels that won't ruin the average person financially? As cc said, so called renewables are not renewable at all and far from clean.
Thousands of products are made from petroleum and the list keeps on growing. It's here to stay despite what your leftist government tells you.
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Quote from: "cc"
As well as being economically nonviable, wind, solar are terrible polluters ... terrible polluters when being manufactured and then terrible polluters when being got rid of after physical failure .. failure that is usually sooner than later . . As Shen correctly said "a giant tailings ponds" result ... not to mention people having to pay huge power bills to keep them afloat financially .. those advocating their use not caring a whit about John & Jane regular folk trying to make ends meet for their families .... those people that so-called planet savers who have no use for not do not care about
Meantime great advances have been made in the area of reducing pollution, whether from fossil fueled vehicles or from fossil fueled power plants ... of course power produced by elevated water also helps greatly in areas where the right conditions exist .. BC being a great but unfortunately not too common an example .... if the right conditions for water power were more prevalent, electric would be viable financially and would reduce pollutants ... even electric cars would be viable ... but wind and solar are unsustainable financially and would break our economies ... not to mention breaking John & Jane regular folk
The bullshit comes from the wannabe planet savers who refuse to acknowledge that there is a price to pay for ALL forms of energy ... and that there is no magic bullet ... and that for the foreseeable future, the lower "overall" price to be paid by civilization is fossil fuel
I will read this later...gotta jet out to a play tonight..
Good on ya - have funnnnnn