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Title: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 04:39:58 AM
i just finished reading " the great gatsby ", i found the death of gatsby seems criticising the phenomenon of our society where most phony,indifferent and cold-hearted people reveal their dark side right after one dead they used to be a friend of him/her. mr. wolfshiem (gatsby's busniess partner), mr.klipspringer( son of the bitch who rather joins into his friends' activity than attending to gatsby's funeral ), even jordan baker who feels honourred and jaunty of having a secret talk with gatsby, nobody comes to gatsby's funeral. daisy, the most important person of gatsby's life, doesn't even make a call or send a wisp of flowers for gatsby.



i don't mean to be so sentimental like this, but the narration of nick about how he feels after perceiving the snobby entities makes me weep at a transitory moment.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"i just finished reading " the great gatsby ", i found the death of gatsby seems criticising the phonomenon of our society where most phony,indifferent and cold-hearted people reveal their dark side right after one dead they used to be a friend of him/her. mr. wolfshiem (gatsby's busniess partner), mr.klipspringer( son of the bitch who rather joins into his friends' activity than attending to gatsby's funeral ), even jordan baker who feels honourred and jaunty of having a secret talk with gatsby, nobody comes to gatsby's funeral. daisy, the most important person of gatsby's life, doesn't even make a call or send a wisp of flowers for gatsby.



i don't mean to be so sentimental like this, but the narration of nick about how he feels after perceiving the snobby entities makes me weep at a transitory moment.

It's a great book!
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"i just finished reading " the great gatsby ", i found the death of gatsby seems criticising the phonomenon of our society where most phony,indifferent and cold-hearted people reveal their dark side right after one dead they used to be a friend of him/her. mr. wolfshiem (gatsby's busniess partner), mr.klipspringer( son of the bitch who rather joins into his friends' activity than attending to gatsby's funeral ), even jordan baker who feels honourred and jaunty of having a secret talk with gatsby, nobody comes to gatsby's funeral. daisy, the most important person of gatsby's life, doesn't even make a call or send a wisp of flowers for gatsby.



i don't mean to be so sentimental like this, but the narration of nick about how he feels after perceiving the snobby entities makes me weep at a transitory moment.

It's a great book!


i expected u would express more about this book :?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"i just finished reading " the great gatsby ", i found the death of gatsby seems criticising the phonomenon of our society where most phony,indifferent and cold-hearted people reveal their dark side right after one dead they used to be a friend of him/her. mr. wolfshiem (gatsby's busniess partner), mr.klipspringer( son of the bitch who rather joins into his friends' activity than attending to gatsby's funeral ), even jordan baker who feels honourred and jaunty of having a secret talk with gatsby, nobody comes to gatsby's funeral. daisy, the most important person of gatsby's life, doesn't even make a call or send a wisp of flowers for gatsby.



i don't mean to be so sentimental like this, but the narration of nick about how he feels after perceiving the snobby entities makes me weep at a transitory moment.

It's a great book!


i expected u would express more about this book :?

What would you like me to say? You have two threads about the book.



It had the usual exciting themes like greed, jealousy, decadence, treachery and so on. Gave us some insights into the pitfalls of chasing the American dream 90 years ago.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 05, 2013, 05:33:52 PM
Kultahattu.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Kultahattu.

You are really going to confuse Jay.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 05, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 06:10:55 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.

I see.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.

Finnish looks like a difficult language to learn..



I studied Spanish, but gave up after one month.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 08:06:51 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
It's a great book!


i expected u would express more about this book :?

What would you like me to say? You have two threads about the book.



It had the usual exciting themes like greed, jealousy, decadence, treachery and so on. Gave us some insights into the pitfalls of chasing the American dream 90 years ago.


human natures don't get developed at all. this picture like that people show apathy to gatsby's death can be seen in our society nowadays
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 08:08:04 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.


how did u get that word? i didn't find this word out in the book
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.

Finnish looks like a difficult language to learn..



I studied Spanish, but gave up after one month.


why didn't u learn french?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 08:16:46 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.

Finnish looks like a difficult language to learn..



I studied Spanish, but gave up after one month.


why didn't u learn french?

My husband used to travel to many different countries for his job including many Spanish speaking ones..



If I joined him I could speak with locals.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 08:20:02 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Finnish looks like a difficult language to learn..



I studied Spanish, but gave up after one month.


why didn't u learn french?

My husband used to travel to many different countries for his job including many Spanish speaking ones..



If I joined him I could speak with locals.


oh i see. where did your husband come from? is he taiwanese as u?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 08:22:11 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"


why didn't u learn french?

My husband used to travel to many different countries for his job including many Spanish speaking ones..



If I joined him I could speak with locals.


oh i see. where did your husband come from? is he taiwanese as u?

No, he is a Dutch-Canadian.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My husband used to travel to many different countries for his job including many Spanish speaking ones..



If I joined him I could speak with locals.


oh i see. where did your husband come from? is he taiwanese as u?

No, he is a Dutch-Canadian.


oh.... :shock: envy you.  i hope i can get a white girl too :D
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"


oh i see. where did your husband come from? is he taiwanese as u?

No, he is a Dutch-Canadian.


oh.... :shock: envy you.  i hope i can get a white girl too :D

Why a white lady Jaysings?



If you meet a nice lady that is Chinese, Korean or East Indian would you reject her?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 09:13:13 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
No, he is a Dutch-Canadian.


oh.... :shock: envy you.  i hope i can get a white girl too :D

Why a white lady Jaysings?



If you meet a nice lady that is Chinese, Korean or East Indian would you reject her?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"


oh.... :shock: envy you.  i hope i can get a white girl too :D

Why a white lady Jaysings?



If you meet a nice lady that is Chinese, Korean or East Indian would you reject her?


i will prefer to get a white girl than those coming from anywhere else, but i like them all except korean. i have no discrimination and slurs of korean, yet i just don't like to be with korean no matter who they are.

I always liked men with blue eyes, so I understand..



Why do you not like to be around Koreans?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Why a white lady Jaysings?



If you meet a nice lady that is Chinese, Korean or East Indian would you reject her?


i will prefer to get a white girl than those coming from anywhere else, but i like them all except korean. i have no discrimination and slurs of korean, yet i just don't like to be with korean no matter who they are.

I always liked men with blue eyes, so I understand..



Why do you not like to be around Koreans?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"


i will prefer to get a white girl than those coming from anywhere else, but i like them all except korean. i have no discrimination and slurs of korean, yet i just don't like to be with korean no matter who they are.

I always liked men with blue eyes, so I understand..



Why do you not like to be around Koreans?


they make me feel uncomfortable. the air becomes intense around me, and i will involuntarily draw myself back from being too close to them.



through their eyes, i can see dedain and pride.

Culturally, there are some things I don't like about Korea like the extreme hierarchical work structure.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I always liked men with blue eyes, so I understand..



Why do you not like to be around Koreans?


they make me feel uncomfortable. the air becomes intense around me, and i will involuntarily draw myself back from being too close to them.



through their eyes, i can see dedain and pride.

Culturally, there are some things I don't like about Korea like the extreme hierarchical work structure.


i don't understand this phrase "extreme hierarchical work structure"  :?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 10:32:26 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


they make me feel uncomfortable. the air becomes intense around me, and i will involuntarily draw myself back from being too close to them.



through their eyes, i can see dedain and pride.

Culturally, there are some things I don't like about Korea like the extreme hierarchical work structure.


i don't understand this phrase "extreme hierarchical work structure"  :?

I mean it is extremely top-down. Ass kissing is despised in Canada, but in Korea it is expected of good employees. If you are a junior employee bowing to senior employees is an everyday thing. Some Koreans I have met say they don't like it either, but what can they do. It is part of their work culture
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 11:00:09 PM
:D
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


i don't understand this phrase "extreme hierarchical work structure"  :?

I mean it is extremely top-down. Ass kissing is despised in Canada, but in Korea it is expected of good employees. If you are a junior employee bowing to senior employees is an everyday thing. Some Koreans I have met say they don't like it either, but what can they do. It is part of their work culture


junior japanese are expected to show their respect to senior people whether the young groups are under the elder groups at the superior positions or not. however, japanese scarcely have a quality that makes u feel despised and disrespected

I cannot handle Korea`s rigid hierarchical work culture...drives me up the wall. Obvious Li worked in Korea and knows all about it.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 05, 2013, 11:49:45 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I mean it is extremely top-down. Ass kissing is despised in Canada, but in Korea it is expected of good employees. If you are a junior employee bowing to senior employees is an everyday thing. Some Koreans I have met say they don't like it either, but what can they do. It is part of their work culture


junior japanese are expected to show their respect to senior people whether the young groups are under the elder groups at the superior positions or not. however, japanese scarcely have a quality that makes u feel despised and disrespected

I cannot handle Korea`s rigid hierarchical work culture...drives me up the wall. Obvious Li worked in Korea and knows all about it.


now? is he living in korea now?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2013, 11:52:34 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


junior japanese are expected to show their respect to senior people whether the young groups are under the elder groups at the superior positions or not. however, japanese scarcely have a quality that makes u feel despised and disrespected

I cannot handle Korea`s rigid hierarchical work culture...drives me up the wall. Obvious Li worked in Korea and knows all about it.


now? is he living in korea now?

No, he lives in Saskatchewan now. He worked in Korea and his wife is Korean.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 01:07:24 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I cannot handle Korea`s rigid hierarchical work culture...drives me up the wall. Obvious Li worked in Korea and knows all about it.


now? is he living in korea now?

No, he lives in Saskatchewan now. He worked in Korea and his wife is Korean.


oh god. should i move out all my replies above?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 06, 2013, 06:47:35 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Kulta=Gold

Hattu=A hat



Kultahattu=golden hat



It is the name of that book. We have to change the names because literal translation would sound stupid.

Finnish looks like a difficult language to learn..



I studied Spanish, but gave up after one month.


Foreigners never get rid of the accent. Or they won´t learn at all.



Spanish sounds awesome.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2013, 07:04:23 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


now? is he living in korea now?

No, he lives in Saskatchewan now. He worked in Korea and his wife is Korean.


oh god. should i move out all my replies above?

 :?:
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 06, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
No, he lives in Saskatchewan now. He worked in Korea and his wife is Korean.


oh god. should i move out all my replies above?

 :?:


He little bit disses koreans.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
No, he lives in Saskatchewan now. He worked in Korea and his wife is Korean.


oh god. should i move out all my replies above?

 :?:


sorry, i don't mean to pick on korean. :?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 06, 2013, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"


oh god. should i move out all my replies above?

 :?:


sorry, i don't mean to pick on korean. :?




on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
 :?:


sorry, i don't mean to pick on korean. :?




on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also


some of them won't hide their power and strength in public, so it makes me feel like arrogant and disrespectful. maybe it isn't true because i just met a part of korean group in vancouver. your words about korean will be more powerful and convincible because your wife is korean. i just express how i felt about korean, without bias and prejudgement
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"


oh god. should i move out all my replies above?

 :?:


He little bit disses koreans.


for a reason that korean announce chinese inventions and traditions should belong to korean.



i don't know if that is a false rumor about them or something, but i will be disgusted if it is true.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
 :?:


He little bit disses koreans.


for a reason that korean announce chinese inventions and traditions should belong to korean.



i don't know if that is a false rumor about them or something, but i will be disgusted if it is true.

In all fairness, Korea is not alone in doing that. Many countries(China included) exaggerate the innovations of their countrymen.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2013, 07:27:30 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
 :?:


sorry, i don't mean to pick on korean. :?




on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also

Eggs ackly  handsome. If you can't take a little teasing then either you don't belong here or like GH you post here believing you are the reincarnation of a teenage girl that took her own life.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"


He little bit disses koreans.


for a reason that korean announce chinese inventions and traditions should belong to korean.



i don't know if that is a false rumor about them or something, but i will be disgusted if it is true.

In all fairness, Korea is not alone in doing that. Many countries(China included) exaggerate the innovations of their countrymen.


it is doubtless that korean did a great job with their innovation, but what i meant is that they have once asserted that some of the chinese valuable heritages and festivals should belong to korean such as Armillary sphere and duanwu festival
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


for a reason that korean announce chinese inventions and traditions should belong to korean.



i don't know if that is a false rumor about them or something, but i will be disgusted if it is true.

In all fairness, Korea is not alone in doing that. Many countries(China included) exaggerate the innovations of their countrymen.


it is doubtless that korean did a great job with their innovation, but what i meant is that they have once asserted that some of the chinese valuable heritages and festivals should belong to korean such as Armillary sphere and duanwu festival

Chinese culture has borrowed a lot from India.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
In all fairness, Korea is not alone in doing that. Many countries(China included) exaggerate the innovations of their countrymen.


it is doubtless that korean did a great job with their innovation, but what i meant is that they have once asserted that some of the chinese valuable heritages and festivals should belong to korean such as Armillary sphere and duanwu festival

Chinese culture has borrowed a lot from India.


in fact, we don't call that region "China" during that era
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 06, 2013, 08:46:53 PM
remember..Korea, until recently, has been occupied by a foreign power for generations...so they feel isolated, "the hermit kingdom" in their thinking and circumspect in their actions and relations to other countries.....they are quite defensive and nationalistic about Korea's place in Asia and the world...justifiably so. Also think about the fact that many many of the products you enjoy today are not made in Japan or China, but Korea...from Samsung, LG, Hyundai, SSangyoung, Daiwoo, Posco, Lotte and dozens of other multinational companies...it is hard to list a set of companies from any other country in the world that have been so successful......in spite of the fact that the country was completely destitute in 1953....just 60 short years ago Korea was 2nd. last in world GDP. Today they  are between 8th. and 10th....an amazing achievement...made possible by being ruled by a military dictatorship that knew what it wanted and pushed the country in the right direction....the first democratic government was elected in the 80's..yet if you go there and look, i dare you to find a more modern, open and peaceful country anywhere...my hats off to them. I have nothing but respect for their achievements...and did i mention the women are beautiful.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
^^I would also add their mouthwatering cuisine to Korea's list of accomplishments.



Park Chung Hee's leadership was a testament to the superiority of benevolent dictatorship over present North American democracy. Korea's story is no less than a miracle in such a short period of time.



I am not a fan of blind nationalism though. Too many Chinese believe everything the CCP tells without question.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"remember..Korea, until recently, has been occupied by a foreign power for generations...so they feel isolated, "the hermit kingdom" in their thinking and circumspect in their actions and relations to other countries.....they are quite defensive and nationalistic about Korea's place in Asia and the world...justifiably so. Also think about the fact that many many of the products you enjoy today are not made in Japan or China, but Korea...from Samsung, LG, Hyundai, SSangyoung, Daiwoo, Posco, Lotte and dozens of other multinational companies...it is hard to list a set of companies from any other country in the world that have been so successful......in spite of the fact that the country was completely destitute in 1953....just 60 short years ago Korea was 2nd. last in world GDP. Today they  are between 8th. and 10th....an amazing achievement...made possible by being ruled by a military dictatorship that knew what it wanted and pushed the country in the right direction....the first democratic government was elected in the 80's..yet if you go there and look, i dare you to find a more modern, open and peaceful country anywhere...my hats off to them. I have nothing but respect for their achievements...and did i mention the women are beautiful.


where did u come from?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 06, 2013, 09:28:34 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"^^I would also add their mouthwatering cuisine to Korea's list of accomplishments.



Park Chung Hee's leadership was a testament to the superiority of benevolent dictatorship over present North American democracy. Korea's story is no less than a miracle in such a short period of time.



I am not a fan of blind nationalism though. Too many Chinese believe everything the CCP tells without question.


i hate ccp though.that's the main reason why i left off my country to canada
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2013, 09:48:22 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"^^I would also add their mouthwatering cuisine to Korea's list of accomplishments.



Park Chung Hee's leadership was a testament to the superiority of benevolent dictatorship over present North American democracy. Korea's story is no less than a miracle in such a short period of time.



I am not a fan of blind nationalism though. Too many Chinese believe everything the CCP tells without question.


i hate ccp though.that's the main reason why i left off my country to canada

I neither like nor hate them. Since Mao's death they have had some obvious successes that have lifted hundreds of millions out of absolute poverty. However, they are an extension of the dynasties. Truth is, I am not all that crazy about any government anywhere. Government is a necessary evil at best.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 06, 2013, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"remember..Korea, until recently, has been occupied by a foreign power for generations...so they feel isolated, "the hermit kingdom" in their thinking and circumspect in their actions and relations to other countries.....they are quite defensive and nationalistic about Korea's place in Asia and the world...justifiably so. Also think about the fact that many many of the products you enjoy today are not made in Japan or China, but Korea...from Samsung, LG, Hyundai, SSangyoung, Daiwoo, Posco, Lotte and dozens of other multinational companies...it is hard to list a set of companies from any other country in the world that have been so successful......in spite of the fact that the country was completely destitute in 1953....just 60 short years ago Korea was 2nd. last in world GDP. Today they  are between 8th. and 10th....an amazing achievement...made possible by being ruled by a military dictatorship that knew what it wanted and pushed the country in the right direction....the first democratic government was elected in the 80's..yet if you go there and look, i dare you to find a more modern, open and peaceful country anywhere...my hats off to them. I have nothing but respect for their achievements...and did i mention the women are beautiful.


where did u come from?




 i was born in Paradise...roamed the world for 40 years seeking fame and fortune...and now returned to die in Paradise......just the way God meant it to be.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 07:17:02 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also

It is true that Korea can look after itself. Today, the soft power of Korea is ahead of Japan and China.



I haven't had to grit my teeth with a Fash post yet.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 07, 2013, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
 :?:


sorry, i don't mean to pick on korean. :?




on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also


Hello mr. yellow fever!
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 07, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
In all fairness, Korea is not alone in doing that. Many countries(China included) exaggerate the innovations of their countrymen.


it is doubtless that korean did a great job with their innovation, but what i meant is that they have once asserted that some of the chinese valuable heritages and festivals should belong to korean such as Armillary sphere and duanwu festival

Chinese culture has borrowed a lot from India.


Chinese culture is completely borrowed from the west. Or are you sitting in front of some chinkie invention?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 07, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also

It is true that Korea can look after itself. Today, the soft power of Korea is ahead of Japan and China.



I haven't had to grit my teeth with a Fash post yet.


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missing my point entirely......it means the exact opposite......the fact that you havent is telling.........cheers bro
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 07, 2013, 06:12:19 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


sorry, i don't mean to pick on korean. :?




on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also


Hello mr. yellow fever!


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just the women........the guys i have zero use for..........bunch of metrosexual mamas boys
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also


Hello mr. yellow fever!


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just the women........the guys i have zero use for..........bunch of metrosexual mamas boys

Overly doting parents is a big fucking problem in Asia IMO.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 07, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Hello mr. yellow fever!


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just the women........the guys i have zero use for..........bunch of metrosexual mamas boys

Overly doting parents is a big fucking problem in Asia IMO.


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it will probably lead to the downfall of China as a superpower someday......males actually have a role to play in society as males.....not clowns
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 07:43:47 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
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just the women........the guys i have zero use for..........bunch of metrosexual mamas boys

Overly doting parents is a big fucking problem in Asia IMO.


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it will probably lead to the downfall of China as a superpower someday......males actually have a role to play in society as males.....not clowns

Clownish males have already lead to the West's downfall.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"on this forum everybody picks on everybody...except fash...she is too nice to pick on.....even though she lobs big old softballs continuously.....you just have to grit your teeth and take the strike........so no problems pick on Koreans all you wish...they are big enough to look after themselves.....and the women are cute there also

It is true that Korea can look after itself. Today, the soft power of Korea is ahead of Japan and China.



I haven't had to grit my teeth with a Fash post yet.


[/b]




missing my point entirely......it means the exact opposite......the fact that you havent is telling.........cheers bro

I do not want to be the cause of anyone gritting their teeth and getting angry Mr. Obvious Li.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 07, 2013, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
It is true that Korea can look after itself. Today, the soft power of Korea is ahead of Japan and China.



I haven't had to grit my teeth with a Fash post yet.


[/b]




missing my point entirely......it means the exact opposite......the fact that you havent is telling.........cheers bro

I do not want to be the cause of anyone gritting their teeth and getting angry Mr. Obvious Li.






lol fash baby.......who could possibly get mad at you....i apologize for being too obtuse for this forum.....someone help....lol... :roll:
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
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missing my point entirely......it means the exact opposite......the fact that you havent is telling.........cheers bro

I do not want to be the cause of anyone gritting their teeth and getting angry Mr. Obvious Li.






lol fash baby.......who could possibly get mad at you....i apologize for being too obtuse for this forum.....someone help....lol... :roll:

I am afraid it is me that has failed to understand Mr. Obvious Li..



I ask that you be patient with me and I will make more of an attempt to see things through the eyes of others.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Obvious Li on August 07, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I do not want to be the cause of anyone gritting their teeth and getting angry Mr. Obvious Li.






lol fash baby.......who could possibly get mad at you....i apologize for being too obtuse for this forum.....someone help....lol... :roll:

I am afraid it is me that has failed to understand Mr. Obvious Li..



I ask that you be patient with me and I will make more of an attempt to see things through the eyes of others.




i am a patient man.....sister :twisted:
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2013, 10:49:58 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"






lol fash baby.......who could possibly get mad at you....i apologize for being too obtuse for this forum.....someone help....lol... :roll:

I am afraid it is me that has failed to understand Mr. Obvious Li..



I ask that you be patient with me and I will make more of an attempt to see things through the eyes of others.




i am a patient man.....sister :twisted:

Oh I am sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were not.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 08, 2013, 01:26:44 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I am afraid it is me that has failed to understand Mr. Obvious Li..



I ask that you be patient with me and I will make more of an attempt to see things through the eyes of others.




i am a patient man.....sister :twisted:

Oh I am sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were not.


i shouldn't have started this topic :?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2013, 07:32:55 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




i am a patient man.....sister :twisted:

Oh I am sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were not.


i shouldn't have started this topic :?

Why?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 08, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Oh I am sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were not.


i shouldn't have started this topic :?

Why?


because i found this topic is inappropriate to be discussed about
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2013, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"


i shouldn't have started this topic :?

Why?


because i found this topic is inappropriate to be discussed about

Dude, as others have said, speak your mind. Your thoughts and opinions are as valid as anyone else's. With the exception of green homo, we are all adults and we can take it.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Big Wave Dave on August 09, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"remember..Korea, until recently, has been occupied by a foreign power for generations...so they feel isolated, "the hermit kingdom" in their thinking and circumspect in their actions and relations to other countries.....they are quite defensive and nationalistic about Korea's place in Asia and the world...justifiably so. Also think about the fact that many many of the products you enjoy today are not made in Japan or China, but Korea...from Samsung, LG, Hyundai, SSangyoung, Daiwoo, Posco, Lotte and dozens of other multinational companies...it is hard to list a set of companies from any other country in the world that have been so successful......in spite of the fact that the country was completely destitute in 1953....just 60 short years ago Korea was 2nd. last in world GDP. Today they  are between 8th. and 10th....an amazing achievement...made possible by being ruled by a military dictatorship that knew what it wanted and pushed the country in the right direction....the first democratic government was elected in the 80's..yet if you go there and look, i dare you to find a more modern, open and peaceful country anywhere...my hats off to them. I have nothing but respect for their achievements...and did i mention the women are beautiful.

Korean women are the bomb. Korean hotties were my first experience with Oriental chicks. My ex-wife was Korean, but how can a guy be faithful with so many gorgeous babes around you. They spoil you for white chicks. They renew a man's zest for life. Any guy stuck with some ball breaking thin-lipped white pig needs to dump the slob and get his butt over to Asia while he still has a spirit.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 10, 2013, 02:17:11 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"


i shouldn't have started this topic :?

Why?


because i found this topic is inappropriate to be discussed about


Speak your goddamn mind! No matter how vile your mind is.

I hate when people lie to me.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 10, 2013, 02:18:49 AM
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"remember..Korea, until recently, has been occupied by a foreign power for generations...so they feel isolated, "the hermit kingdom" in their thinking and circumspect in their actions and relations to other countries.....they are quite defensive and nationalistic about Korea's place in Asia and the world...justifiably so. Also think about the fact that many many of the products you enjoy today are not made in Japan or China, but Korea...from Samsung, LG, Hyundai, SSangyoung, Daiwoo, Posco, Lotte and dozens of other multinational companies...it is hard to list a set of companies from any other country in the world that have been so successful......in spite of the fact that the country was completely destitute in 1953....just 60 short years ago Korea was 2nd. last in world GDP. Today they  are between 8th. and 10th....an amazing achievement...made possible by being ruled by a military dictatorship that knew what it wanted and pushed the country in the right direction....the first democratic government was elected in the 80's..yet if you go there and look, i dare you to find a more modern, open and peaceful country anywhere...my hats off to them. I have nothing but respect for their achievements...and did i mention the women are beautiful.

Korean women are the bomb. Korean hotties were my first experience with Oriental chicks. My ex-wife was Korean, but how can a guy be faithful with so many gorgeous babes around you. They spoil you for white chicks. They renew a man's zest for life. Any guy stuck with some ball breaking thin-lipped white pig needs to dump the slob and get his butt over to Asia while he still has a spirit.


Stop it!
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 10, 2013, 03:23:02 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"remember..Korea, until recently, has been occupied by a foreign power for generations...so they feel isolated, "the hermit kingdom" in their thinking and circumspect in their actions and relations to other countries.....they are quite defensive and nationalistic about Korea's place in Asia and the world...justifiably so. Also think about the fact that many many of the products you enjoy today are not made in Japan or China, but Korea...from Samsung, LG, Hyundai, SSangyoung, Daiwoo, Posco, Lotte and dozens of other multinational companies...it is hard to list a set of companies from any other country in the world that have been so successful......in spite of the fact that the country was completely destitute in 1953....just 60 short years ago Korea was 2nd. last in world GDP. Today they  are between 8th. and 10th....an amazing achievement...made possible by being ruled by a military dictatorship that knew what it wanted and pushed the country in the right direction....the first democratic government was elected in the 80's..yet if you go there and look, i dare you to find a more modern, open and peaceful country anywhere...my hats off to them. I have nothing but respect for their achievements...and did i mention the women are beautiful.

Korean women are the bomb. Korean hotties were my first experience with Oriental chicks. My ex-wife was Korean, but how can a guy be faithful with so many gorgeous babes around you. They spoil you for white chicks. They renew a man's zest for life. Any guy stuck with some ball breaking thin-lipped white pig needs to dump the slob and get his butt over to Asia while he still has a spirit.


Stop it!


i don't get what his point is. is it because my weak reading skill?
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 10, 2013, 03:27:01 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Why?


because i found this topic is inappropriate to be discussed about

Dude, as others have said, speak your mind. Your thoughts and opinions are as valid as anyone else's. With the exception of green homo, we are all adults and we can take it.


i don't wanna spoil the peace here
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 10, 2013, 03:30:26 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


because i found this topic is inappropriate to be discussed about

Dude, as others have said, speak your mind. Your thoughts and opinions are as valid as anyone else's. With the exception of green homo, we are all adults and we can take it.


i don't wanna break the peace here


Please break this peace! NOW!
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: jaysings on August 10, 2013, 03:34:24 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Dude, as others have said, speak your mind. Your thoughts and opinions are as valid as anyone else's. With the exception of green homo, we are all adults and we can take it.


i don't wanna break the peace here


Please break this peace! NOW!


use an inappropriate word. it should be "spoil"
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 10, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"


i don't wanna break the peace here


Please break this peace! NOW!


use an inappropriate word. it should be "spoil"


So you are getting more skilled english writer...



A little more out of you is needed. Not trying to turn this forum into WW3
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Korean women are the bomb. Korean hotties were my first experience with Oriental chicks. My ex-wife was Korean, but how can a guy be faithful with so many gorgeous babes around you. They spoil you for white chicks. They renew a man's zest for life. Any guy stuck with some ball breaking thin-lipped white pig needs to dump the slob and get his butt over to Asia while he still has a spirit.


Stop it!


i don't get what his point is. is it because my weak reading skill?

BWD is an obnoxious asshole.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 10, 2013, 12:13:21 PM
Big wave Dave is more of an asshole than me.

I doubt he is a surfer.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2013, 12:18:21 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Big wave Dave is more of an asshole than me.

I doubt he is a surfer.

I don't know if he is and I don't care. What I do know is his boasting/superiority complex is as annoying as fuck.
Title: Re: poor gatsby
Post by: Odinson on August 10, 2013, 12:32:05 PM
Yea.