Title: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on April 24, 2018, 03:22:21 PM
Post by: cc on April 24, 2018, 03:22:21 PM
Broward Sheriff's Office deputies were taking cover behind cars and a tree as they responded to the worst school shooting in Florida history — even though one deputy said he knew where the shooter was, according to an officer report released Tuesday by the
"I was advised by an unknown BSO Deputy taking cover behind a tree, 'he is on the third floor,' " wrote Coral Springs officer Bryan Wilkins in a report recounting his arrival at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14 and his subsequent actions to find the shooter and save lives.
"I saw approximately four Broward County Sheriff's Office vehicles parked [on the road outside the school] ... with their personnel taking up exterior positions behind their vehicles," Wilkins wrote in the report. "I drove up just west of the campus building 1200, exited my vehicle, grabbed my AR-15 rifle and donned on my tactical/medical gear."
Another
That's when he encountered the BSO deputy behind the tree who said he knew where Cruz was.
Wilkins says he and Coral Springs Detective Gil Monzon, along with an "unknown BSO Deputy," then approached the freshman building where Cruz killed 17 people. They could see bullet holes in the windows and doors.
Read more here:
Although the BSO deputies arrived before Coral Springs police, they didn't immediately attempt to track down shooter Nikolas Cruz or aid the wounded, according to the reports.
Read more here:
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Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2018, 03:30:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2018, 03:30:11 PM
Broward Sheriff's Office deputies were taking cover behind cars and a tree as they responded to the worst school shooting in Florida history — even though one deputy said he knew where the shooter was, according to an officer report released Tuesday by the Coral Springs Police Department.Quote
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2018, 05:07:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2018, 05:07:17 PM
Broward sheriff's deputies cowered behind cars, tree with Parkland shooter believed in school, report says(//http)
Broward Sheriff's Office deputies were taking cover behind cars and a tree as they responded to the worst school shooting in Florida history — even though one deputy said he knew where the shooter was, according to an officer report released Tuesday by theCoral Springs Police Department.
"I was advised by an unknown BSO Deputy taking cover behind a tree, 'he is on the third floor,' " wrote Coral Springs officer Bryan Wilkins in a report recounting his arrival at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14 and his subsequent actions to find the shooter and save lives.
"I saw approximately four Broward County Sheriff's Office vehicles parked [on the road outside the school] ... with their personnel taking up exterior positions behind their vehicles," Wilkins wrote in the report. "I drove up just west of the campus building 1200, exited my vehicle, grabbed my AR-15 rifle and donned on my tactical/medical gear."
AnotherCoral Springscop who arrived at Stoneman Douglas within minutes of the shooting, Sgt. Nick Mazzei, confirmed that he saw BSO deputies "taking positions" outside the school and rushed past them, according to a report he filed that was also released Tuesday.
That's when he encountered the BSO deputy behind the tree who said he knew where Cruz was.
Wilkins says he and Coral Springs Detective Gil Monzon, along with an "unknown BSO Deputy," then approached the freshman building where Cruz killed 17 people. They could see bullet holes in the windows and doors.
Read more here:http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article209690164.html#storylink=cpy
Although the BSO deputies arrived before Coral Springs police, they didn't immediately attempt to track down shooter Nikolas Cruz or aid the wounded, according to the reports.Law enforcement officers around the county are trained to find and confront active shooters without delay. Seventeen people died at Stoneman Douglas.
Read more here:http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article209690164.html#storylink=cpy
[Note: Coral Springs Officers Immediately Charged In as expected to do]
No surprises here.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: cc on April 24, 2018, 05:29:53 PM
Post by: cc on April 24, 2018, 05:29:53 PM
I hope that slimy sheriff gets booted
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
Well, "initially" it was a surprise ... but we kinda knew what took place (or rather didn't) from the early goingQuote from: "cc"
I hope that slimy sheriff gets booted
Best he never wear a law enforcement uniform again.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on April 25, 2018, 07:14:12 AM
Post by: Bricktop on April 25, 2018, 07:14:12 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
The local deputies union have called for his dismissal immediately. Apparently, according to them, he's corrupt, inept and a blame shifter par excellence.Quote from: "Bricktop"
I think they are right.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on April 25, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on April 25, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2018, 06:49:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2018, 06:49:24 PM
Or used in the next "Super Troopers" movie.Quote from: "Bricktop"
That would be safer.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Wazzzup on April 26, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on April 26, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
By a margin of 534-94, sheriff deputies in Broward County have delivered a major blow to Sheriff Scott Israel in the aftermath of the February massacre at high school in Parkland, Florida:
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on April 26, 2018, 07:38:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on April 26, 2018, 07:38:16 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2018, 08:52:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2018, 08:52:22 PM
By a margin of 534-94, sheriff deputies in Broward County have delivered a major blow to Sheriff Scott Israel in the aftermath of the February massacre at high school in Parkland, Florida:
It's time for him to be removed.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2018, 06:12:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2018, 06:12:35 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Frood on April 27, 2018, 07:15:58 AM
Post by: Frood on April 27, 2018, 07:15:58 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
It would better if he was brought up on charges if it can be proven that he issued the stand down or cower order.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That would be frickin justice.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Angry White Male on April 30, 2018, 02:28:12 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on April 30, 2018, 02:28:12 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on April 30, 2018, 02:33:21 AM
Post by: Bricktop on April 30, 2018, 02:33:21 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Frood on April 30, 2018, 02:34:50 AM
Post by: Frood on April 30, 2018, 02:34:50 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
Maybe departmental policies were to simply 'stand ground' until SWAT arrived?Quote from: "Angry White Male"
I haven't read that.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Wazzzup on May 16, 2018, 01:48:14 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on May 16, 2018, 01:48:14 AM
Peterson, 55, was widely criticized for his actions and Broward Sheriff Scott Israel opened an internal investigation.
The former deputy stood by his actions after the shooting. His lawyer said in a statement at the time that "the allegations that Mr. Peterson was a coward and that his performance, under the circumstances, failed to meet the standards of police officers are patently untrue."
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2018, 04:57:12 AM
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2018, 04:57:12 AM
For a glorified school monitor??
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2018, 09:11:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2018, 09:11:13 AM
$100,000!!!Quote from: "Bricktop"
For a glorified school monitor??
If that's his pension what was his salary?
Likely, over one hundred and fifty thousand per year.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2018, 08:19:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2018, 08:19:15 PM
I make no comment about his actions...simply because I wasn't there, nor am I familiar with Departmental policy.
But for that kind of money, I would expect someone with the skill, training, expertise and fortitude to DO something.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Angry White Male on May 16, 2018, 10:56:34 PM
Post by: Angry White Male on May 16, 2018, 10:56:34 PM
I know, because I did his taxes after he died.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2018, 11:40:40 PM
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2018, 11:40:40 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Angry White Male on May 16, 2018, 11:45:12 PM
Post by: Angry White Male on May 16, 2018, 11:45:12 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Wazzzup on May 16, 2018, 11:51:36 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on May 16, 2018, 11:51:36 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Angry White Male on May 17, 2018, 12:08:43 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on May 17, 2018, 12:08:43 AM
Maybe I would have just stood there too, knowing I'm less than 24 hours away from that pension without any risk at all!
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Wazzzup on May 17, 2018, 01:13:30 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on May 17, 2018, 01:13:30 AM
The other issue is, is that if you fail to do your duties, you have no problem! Just quit and pull in $100,000/year!Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Maybe I would have just stood there too, knowing I'm less than 24 hours away from that pension without any risk at all!
I wish the families of the kids that died could sue him and take it away.
And I wouldn't say this about almost anybody, but I hope Peterson eats his gun out of guilt. If ever a person should kill themselves he's the one.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Wazzzup on May 17, 2018, 01:16:48 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on May 17, 2018, 01:16:48 AM
DIXON, Ill. -- A school resource officer is being hailed as a hero after confronting a gunman at an Illinois high school Wednesday morning, officials say. The officer encountered the 19-year-old former student, who was armed with a gun, at Dixon High School around 8 a.m., Dixon Police Chief Steven Howell said.Quote
Howell said the suspect fired several shots near the school's west gym and was then confronted by the officer assigned to the school. The suspect fled the school and the officer pursued him, Howell said. The gunman then fired several shots toward the officer, who shot back, wounding the suspect.
The suspect was arrested just west of the school and was being treated for non-life-threatening injuries. No students or staff were injured, thanks to the actions of the officer, Howell said.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Bricktop on May 17, 2018, 01:54:04 AM
Post by: Bricktop on May 17, 2018, 01:54:04 AM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: cc on May 27, 2018, 04:04:55 PM
Post by: cc on May 27, 2018, 04:04:55 PM
Parents of victims of the Parkland mass shooting are angry and demanding answers after a bombshell report revealed details about a "disturbing assault" at the school.
Four years to the day before the February mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School,
Two 17-year-old students at the school allegedly bullied a 14-year-old freshman boy in the incident, WPLG Local 10 investigative reporter Bob Norman reported Thursday. The victim was allegedly held down by one of the 17-year-olds while the other kicked him, grabbed his genitals and shoved the boy's baseball bat against his buttocks "simulating rape" through his clothes.
Royer Borges, the father of a survivor of the Parkland shooting, is now calling for the 2014 case to be investigated since the sheriff's son and another boy only received a three-day suspension in what the police report, written by Peterson, described as a "simple battery" rather than sexual assault which would have led to a greater penalty.
"Allowing the deputy to reduce a sexual assault to simple battery was disgusting and should have never been permitted. Maybe if deputy Peterson would have been made to answer for this he may have been replaced by a more competent deputy but it was not done and the two individuals were charged with a simple battery," Borges said in a statement issued through his Fort Lauderdale attorney's office, according to Patch.com.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2018, 04:31:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2018, 04:31:12 PM
Broward Coward' Named In Reported 'Cover Up' Of Alleged Sexual Assault By Sheriff Israel's Son(//https)
Parents of victims of the Parkland mass shooting are angry and demanding answers after a bombshell report revealed details about a "disturbing assault" at the school.
Four years to the day before the February mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School,the son of Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel was reportedly involved in an incident that was allegedly "covered up" by Officer Scot Peterson, the school resource officer who did not enter the building to confront Nikolas Cruz as he killed students and teachers in the tragic shooting, WPLG reported.
Two 17-year-old students at the school allegedly bullied a 14-year-old freshman boy in the incident, WPLG Local 10 investigative reporter Bob Norman reported Thursday. The victim was allegedly held down by one of the 17-year-olds while the other kicked him, grabbed his genitals and shoved the boy's baseball bat against his buttocks "simulating rape" through his clothes.
Royer Borges, the father of a survivor of the Parkland shooting, is now calling for the 2014 case to be investigated since the sheriff's son and another boy only received a three-day suspension in what the police report, written by Peterson, described as a "simple battery" rather than sexual assault which would have led to a greater penalty.
"Allowing the deputy to reduce a sexual assault to simple battery was disgusting and should have never been permitted. Maybe if deputy Peterson would have been made to answer for this he may have been replaced by a more competent deputy but it was not done and the two individuals were charged with a simple battery," Borges said in a statement issued through his Fort Lauderdale attorney's office, according to Patch.com.
The sheriff should have been terminated long ago.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: cc on May 27, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
Post by: cc on May 27, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2018, 04:53:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2018, 04:53:52 PM
For sure. This story just gets worse and worse as more comes outQuote from: "cc"
He was protected for too long.
Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: cc on June 01, 2018, 01:41:09 PM
Post by: cc on June 01, 2018, 01:41:09 PM
Updated 6 hours 2 minutes ago
Paramedics Wanted To Enter Parkland School Where Kids Were Dying, Broward Sheriff's Office Said No
During the chaos of the Parkland school shooting, paramedics from
Michael McNally, deputy chief for Coral Springs fire-rescue,
But every time McNally
"The [BSO] incident commander advised me, 'She would have to check,' " McNally wrote in the report released Thursday by Coral Springs. "After several minutes, I requested once again the need to deploy RTF elements into the scene to ... initiate treatment as soon as possible. Once again, the incident commander expressed that she 'would have to check before approving this request.' "
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Title: Re: Officially Outed!! Browards Cowards Cowered - Report
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 05:01:10 PM
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 05:01:10 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 05:13:42 PM
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 05:13:42 PM
The Broward County Sheriff's office has so much blood on their hands.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Shooter asked for help and they mis-stated his options = NO help received
A newly released report has revealed that the 19-year-old gunman who shot up Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in February asked for help months before he went on the rampage, but the school district failed to act on his request.
The report was released on Friday after Broward Circuit Judge Elizabeth Scherer ordered Broward County Public Schools to release its report on the gunman who murdered 17 people during the Valentine's Day massacre.
The Sun-Sentinel noted that the investigation found that the school district "did not follow the requirements of Florida statute or federal laws governing students with disabilities" in two specific instances:
-- School officials misstated [the shooter's] options when he was faced with being removed from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School his junior year, leading him to refuse special education services.
-- When [the shooter] asked to return to the therapeutic environment of Cross Creek School for special education students, the district "did not follow through," the report reveals.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 08:08:01 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 08:08:01 PM
Nine (9) fucking months later, there was an opening and an appointment set for me. By then I was pretty much back to normal again, and the visit was simply limited to the initial appointment, as I was again 'normal' by then...
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
This is a case where authorities were grossly deficient in their work .. even appearing to being deliberately deficient ... possibly paving the way for huge tragedy
If you are saying that you could have shot up a school, I will take your bad time more seriously
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2018, 09:38:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2018, 09:38:09 PM
Not belittling your personal divorce turmoil, but this is a tad different than our country's failed medical system.Quote from: "cc"
This is a case where authorities were grossly deficient in their work .. even appearing to being deliberately deficient ... possibly paving the way for huge tragedy
It looks that way cc.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 09:39:41 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 09:39:41 PM
Not belittling your personal divorce turmoil, but this is a tad different than our country's failed medical system.Quote from: "cc"
This is a case where authorities were grossly deficient in their work .. even appearing to being deliberately deficient ... possibly paving the way for huge tragedy
Not completely different... If someone is reaching out for help, you don't know what they are capable of.
More problems will happen due to a failed system.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
Post by: cc on August 04, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2018, 09:53:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2018, 09:53:22 PM
Secondly, publishing a ranking WITHOUT stating the criterion upon which those ranks were calculate further adds to the sniff of subjectivity. I note Switzerland is 20th. I once fell ill with salmonella poisoning there (a fact which on its own is rather disconcerting) and was hospitalised for three days. I discharged myself without knowing what I was suffering from. The closest they got was "peritonitis".
I returned to the UK, where I was accurately diagnosed and treated within a day.
There was nothing notable about Swiss health care. On the other hand, UK health care has always been first class. As has Australian.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 09:54:15 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 09:54:15 PM
You are right on our failed system (Quote from: "cc") .. while allowing that politics, personal likes and dislikes and prejudice plays a role especially for large countries with outfits like the WHO See Canada's ranking(//http)
I think Canada is actually much worse than that list depicts. The US system is clearly better than Canada's, even though Canada ranks higher on that list...
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2018, 09:55:19 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2018, 09:55:19 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 05, 2018, 01:33:15 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 05, 2018, 01:33:15 AM
By what criteria?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I can state that I have a step-Uncle that was born and raised here, but he ended up meeting an American teacher (don't know how, and yes, she is extremely left-wing as could be expected, but he is not), and he's now a US citizen living in Iowa or somewhere around there, so has seen both systems up close and personal.
When he was in town a couple of years back, I asked him which system is better in his opinion... He states the US system is better.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on August 05, 2018, 01:53:07 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 05, 2018, 01:53:07 AM
By what criteria. What is it about that question you find difficulty with?
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 05, 2018, 02:02:23 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 05, 2018, 02:02:23 AM
That's nice.Quote from: "Bricktop"
By what criteria. What is it about that question you find difficulty with?
If you have difficulties with my posts, which apparently you do all the fucking time, I'm pretty much done with you and your fucking stupidity here.
You now go on ignore, which I should have done ages ago, as I did with Oscar.
Go fuck yourself, idiot.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Wazzzup on January 11, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on January 11, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Gov. Ron DeSantis removed Broward Sheriff Scott Israel from office Friday, replacing him after 10 months of turmoil spawned by the slaughter of 17 staff and students in Parkland.
"I have no interest in dancing on Scott Israel's political grave," DeSantis said of the Democratic former sheriff, "but suffice it to saythe massacre might never have happened had Broward had better leadership in the sheriff's department."
In his executive order, the governor cited Israel for incompetence and neglect of duty. DeSantis said Israel "egregiously failed in his duties" by not properly training deputies, and not maintaining "a culture of vigilance and thoroughness," among other weaknesses.
The suspension caps a nearly year-long series of revelations that exposed the failure of Broward sheriff's deputies to run in to save children at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Some deputies said they couldn't remember when they'd last been trained to handle an active shooter, even though the agency had a confused, chaotic response to a mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in 2017.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
New Governor of Florida,Ron DeSantis fires Scott Israel, the Sheriff of Broward county, whose deputies bungled the parkland shooting so badly.Quote from: "Wazzzup"https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ne-ron-desantis-scott-israel-decision-20190110-story.html Gov. Ron DeSantis removed Broward Sheriff Scott Israel from office Friday, replacing him after 10 months of turmoil spawned by the slaughter of 17 staff and students in Parkland.
"I have no interest in dancing on Scott Israel's political grave," DeSantis said of the Democratic former sheriff, "but suffice it to saythe massacre might never have happened had Broward had better leadership in the sheriff's department."
In his executive order, the governor cited Israel for incompetence and neglect of duty. DeSantis said Israel "egregiously failed in his duties" by not properly training deputies, and not maintaining "a culture of vigilance and thoroughness," among other weaknesses.
The suspension caps a nearly year-long series of revelations that exposed the failure of Broward sheriff's deputies to run in to save children at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Some deputies said they couldn't remember when they'd last been trained to handle an active shooter, even though the agency had a confused, chaotic response to a mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in 2017.
Scott Israel deserved to be fired.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 11, 2019, 08:11:45 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 11, 2019, 08:11:45 PM
That clown should have been sacked the day after that debacle.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
Not before time.Quote from: "Bricktop"
That clown should have been sacked the day after that debacle.
In Canada and the USA, it's not easy to terminate a policeman.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2019, 06:28:34 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2019, 06:28:34 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2019, 06:54:12 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2019, 06:54:12 PM
I am surprised he was able to be removed since he is an elected official.n I didn't know that could be done.He would have been on a different employment contract, in which he can be removed by Government decree.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Apparently he is not going quietly
Flanked by members of a local African-American faith community, a defiant Scott Israel defended himself against allegations of incompetence on Friday and made clear he would fight his suspension on any front necessary — whether before the Florida Senate or in state or federal court.Quote
Israel, 62, a two-term Democratic sheriff of Broward County, was suspended by Gov. Ron DeSantis three days after the new Republican governor was sworn into office.
But Israel, clad in a suit and tie rather than his usual sheriff's uniform, said DeSantis' actions were motivated by politics, not facts.
His lawyer, Stuart Kaplan, said that not only would Israel fight the governor's order, but he would run for re-election when his term ends in 2020.
Kaplan said that they were still exploring avenues to challenge the suspension, which the governor issued at his own news conference in Fort Lauderdale about an hour before.
Not an ounce of shame.
BTW I found these pictures by the media somewhat curious.
new Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis suspended Israel, Friday, Jan. 11, 2019, in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., over his handling of the
massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
It's almost like he's playing the race card even though he's white
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2019, 09:57:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2019, 09:57:06 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Gaon on January 13, 2019, 05:51:08 PM
Post by: Gaon on January 13, 2019, 05:51:08 PM
He would have been on a different employment contract, in which he can be removed by Government decree.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Apparently he is not going quietlyhttps://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article224314950.html Flanked by members of a local African-American faith community, a defiant Scott Israel defended himself against allegations of incompetence on Friday and made clear he would fight his suspension on any front necessary — whether before the Florida Senate or in state or federal court.Quote
Israel, 62, a two-term Democratic sheriff of Broward County, was suspended by Gov. Ron DeSantis three days after the new Republican governor was sworn into office.
But Israel, clad in a suit and tie rather than his usual sheriff's uniform, said DeSantis' actions were motivated by politics, not facts.
His lawyer, Stuart Kaplan, said that not only would Israel fight the governor's order, but he would run for re-election when his term ends in 2020.
Kaplan said that they were still exploring avenues to challenge the suspension, which the governor issued at his own news conference in Fort Lauderdale about an hour before.
Not an ounce of shame.
BTW I found these pictures by the media somewhat curious.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/t74yyq/picture224330005/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AP_19011817821729%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news%20...%201817821729%22%3Ehttps://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/t74yyq/picture224330005/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AP_19011817821729%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/jnpxwp/picture224330010/alternates/FREE_1140/AP_19011832954522 [/img]
He's an opportunist. He will use whatever he can.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
He would have been on a different employment contract, in which he can be removed by Government decree.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Apparently he is not going quietlyhttps://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article224314950.html Flanked by members of a local African-American faith community, a defiant Scott Israel defended himself against allegations of incompetence on Friday and made clear he would fight his suspension on any front necessary — whether before the Florida Senate or in state or federal court.Quote
Israel, 62, a two-term Democratic sheriff of Broward County, was suspended by Gov. Ron DeSantis three days after the new Republican governor was sworn into office.
But Israel, clad in a suit and tie rather than his usual sheriff's uniform, said DeSantis' actions were motivated by politics, not facts.
His lawyer, Stuart Kaplan, said that not only would Israel fight the governor's order, but he would run for re-election when his term ends in 2020.
Kaplan said that they were still exploring avenues to challenge the suspension, which the governor issued at his own news conference in Fort Lauderdale about an hour before.
Not an ounce of shame.
BTW I found these pictures by the media somewhat curious.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/t74yyq/picture224330005/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AP_19011817821729%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news%20...%201817821729%22%3Ehttps://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/t74yyq/picture224330005/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AP_19011817821729%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/jnpxwp/picture224330010/alternates/FREE_1140/AP_19011832954522 [/img]
If he did try to run again, would the Democrats really want him representing their party?
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Gaon on January 13, 2019, 08:09:01 PM
Post by: Gaon on January 13, 2019, 08:09:01 PM
Are public officials elected along political party lines??Quote from: "Bricktop"
Apparently sherriffs(chiefs of police) are elected and on party lines.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2019, 08:11:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2019, 08:11:04 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on January 13, 2019, 08:32:37 PM
Post by: cc on January 13, 2019, 08:32:37 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Gaon on January 13, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
Post by: Gaon on January 13, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
I believe it depends on the area / locale. Many chiefs are appointed by the mayor, for example NYC is a certaintyQuote from: "cc"
Ah, I thought it was nation wide. Thanks for clearing that up cc.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2019, 09:00:11 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2019, 09:00:11 PM
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
That changes nothing. If public officials are appointed by political parties, then corruption is inevitable.Quote from: "Bricktop"
I looked it up and
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on January 14, 2019, 12:38:26 AM
Post by: Bricktop on January 14, 2019, 12:38:26 AM
Here, the Government engages a professional employment agency to recruit its Commissioners.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Wazzzup on June 04, 2019, 08:38:31 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on June 04, 2019, 08:38:31 PM
Charges include seven counts of neglect of a child, three counts of culpable negligence and one count of perjury.
"The FDLE investigation shows former Deputy Peterson did absolutely nothing to mitigate the MSD shooting," FDLE Commissioner Rick Swearingen said in a statement. "There can be no excuse for his complete inaction and no question that his inaction cost lives."
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on June 05, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 05, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
Are police officers legally compelled to enter an active fire zone, regardless of risk to themselves?
At what point does the officer have the discretion to say..."It is too dangerous and high risk. I must await more backup"?
Because that is what this case will hinge on...what is the tipping point and WHO gets to decide?
My guess? He walks.
Not guilty.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on June 05, 2019, 09:19:13 PM
Post by: cc on June 05, 2019, 09:19:13 PM
Cops from another jurisdiction arrived and immediately ran right past him (and other Browards who never left their vehicles) to enter the school .. I now forget the name of their group
Coral Gables maybe?
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: cc on June 05, 2019, 09:24:57 PM
Post by: cc on June 05, 2019, 09:24:57 PM
When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN.
The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.
Title: Re: MORE Broward Cowards Screwups - Judge Orders Release of More Records
Post by: Bricktop on June 05, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 05, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
Were they trained in handling an armed offender situation?
What was the school layout? Could they enter it safely within reason? Put another way, if the chances of them being shot were high no matter where they entered, what were they supposed to do?
How did they assess the risk? What were the circumstances upon which they chose to respond as they did? Was the offender using high calibre firearms? Were the officers able to distinguish high calibre from small calibre by sound?
Bear in mind that general response police officers here in Oz are trained to CONTAIN, not neutralise armed offenders. I suspect that is standard operational procedure the world over.
I get it. The guy did nothing. But in my view, these school "deputies" are merely token gestures to school security. If they were genuinely there to act, he would have had, at the very least, a military grade rifle, a bullet proof vest, a ballistic helmet, tear gas and bang-flash grenades.
If there is even a HINT that his training and equipment were inappropriate and ineffective, he walks. No court will EVER punish a law enforcement officer for failing to endanger his own life.
The guy was no hero, and many if not most other officers would have done things differently. They also may well have been killed. A cop may be a coward, but that does not make him a criminal.