I am hardly a left-wing elitist, but my hated of this org now rivals NAC. Fuck off you big government intrusive losers.
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This past week, the socially conservative women's organization, led by Gwen Landolt, issued a release criticizing Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird for his stance on gay rights around the world.
It states Baird "insulted the speaker of the Ugandan Parliament, Rebecca Kadaga, at a meeting of the International Parliamentary Union in Quebec City when he criticized Uganda for its position on homosexuality and same-sex marriage."
It's not just that Uganda doesn't embrace gay marriage, adoption rights, etc. Last November, legislators in Uganda made a push to introduce a "kill the gays bill."
The release also took issue with Baird's criticism of Russia's new ambiguous dragnet law that outlaws "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations."
Landolt said Baird's words apply "only to himself and his fellow activists and the left-wing elitists" and also "Mr. Baird's actions are destructive to the conservative base in Canada."
This likely has many subsections within the big tent Conservative party shaking their heads in frustration.
The idea that "left-wing elitists" are the only ones who will speak up when people are being persecuted because of their personal lives is insulting.
It's also way more damaging to the conservative cause than anything Baird could possibly say.
The left loves to portray the right as wholly intolerant of social liberty.
Much has been done to dispel this myth.
The likes of Landolt give those who believe in the vast right-wing conspiracy fuel to keep stoking these suspicions.
Prime Minister Harper has been an honest broker on gay issues.
He promised to reopen the gay marriage debate when he came to office.
He did in 2006 and the status quo prevailed. Now he views it as case closed.
While there are some social conservatives out there who place this issue as their top priority,
Placing restrictions on people's personal lives is actually a form of big government.
REAL Women of Canada play their true card when they write "homosexual activists in Canada are intolerant of any resistance to their demands, and, as such have become a tyrannical minority."
And there we were thinking John Baird was the issue, but suddenly it's about the massive gay conspiracy lurking in the bushes.
There is a small cohort out there that believes in this conspiracy.
When it was discovered a Toronto teacher posted literature from a men's bathhouse in a classroom, some chalked this up to the conspiracy at play.
Same for the alarming news of the former deputy minister of education for Manitoba and Ontario being arrested on child porn charges.
These are both disturbing stories.
But anyone with their head screwed on right would understand that average middle-class gay people don't exactly approve of them, either.
People who side with Landolt need to ask themselves a question: Are they willing to lose all public credibility by falling on this sword?
Social conservative groups applauded when Baird's Office of Religious Freedom was created to speak out against the persecution of Christians and others throughout the world.
Drop the double standard and just accept that Canada stands up for all human rights.
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/08/09/double-standard-real-women-of-canada-play-their-true-card
There are some ladies in my church who are active REAL women supporters.
sorry SL..you are wrong about this one.....REAL women is right on the mark to call that faggot Baird to task...........it is Russia's decision to try and stop the proliferation of gay porn and it's baggage and we should stay the fuck out of it.....Harper has done about everything he can to become Justins man toy and i hope at some point it starts to bite him in the ass......gay loving conservatives...is what is generally known as an oxy-moron.....in Harpers case the moron applies
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Don't get me wrong handsome, I have never liked Western nations sticking their noses into the internal affairs of sovereign nations. However, we need to be consistent. If we condemn Muslim nations for discriminating against women and gays we must apply the same standard to Uganda and Russia.
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Don't get me wrong handsome, I have never liked Western nations sticking their noses into the internal affairs of sovereign nations. However, we need to be consistent. If we condemn Muslim nations for discriminating against women and gays we must apply the same standard to Uganda and Russia.
in my world there is a difference in regards to "promoting" and "discriminating" .....no citizen should be discriminated against for just being what they were born as....NO ONE...but i am sick and tired of this constant blizzard, promotion, advancement and enforcement of the "gay agenda" in our schools, lives, work places and politics....it is disgusting, demeaning and silly.......ENOUGH ALREADY
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Don't get me wrong handsome, I have never liked Western nations sticking their noses into the internal affairs of sovereign nations. However, we need to be consistent. If we condemn Muslim nations for discriminating against women and gays we must apply the same standard to Uganda and Russia.
in my world there is a difference in regards to "promoting" and "discriminating" .....no citizen should be discriminated against for just being what they were born as....NO ONE...but i am sick and tired of this constant blizzard, promotion, advancement and enforcement of the "gay agenda" in our schools, lives, work places and politics....it is disgusting, demeaning and silly.......ENOUGH ALREADY
It's an open secret that John Baird is gay. It doesn't surprise me that he would become irate about discrimination against gays. He has also spoken out against treatment of women in Muslim nations if my memory serves me correctly.
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There's no "gay agenda". "No citizen should be discriminated against for just being what they were born as."
It's wrong for Russia to criminalize homosexuality. It's our business if Canadians are going to go there and get arrested.
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There's no "gay agenda". "No citizen should be discriminated against for just being what they were born as."
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it is absolutely RIGHT for Russia to criminalize what ever the fuck it wants to..it is a sovereign country and as such has every right to dissuade a deviant subculture from taking over the dominant culture of the country,....as has happened in the west...i applaud them for their forbearance.....what we don't need is a culture subservient to the likes of blurt and his/her pals.....fucking sick twisted deviant motherfuckers....
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There's no "gay agenda". "No citizen should be discriminated against for just being what they were born as."
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it is absolutely RIGHT for Russia to criminalize what ever the fuck it wants to..it is a sovereign country and as such has every right to dissuade a deviant subculture from taking over the dominant culture of the country,....as has happened in the west...i applaud them for their forbearance.....what we don't need is
Blurt is a sanctimonious asshole.
BTW, in theory I agree with respecting the sovereignty of other countries.
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There's no "gay agenda". "No citizen should be discriminated against for just being what they were born as."
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it is absolutely RIGHT for Russia to criminalize what ever the fuck it wants to..it is a sovereign country and as such has every right to dissuade a deviant subculture from taking over the dominant culture of the country,....as has happened in the west...i applaud them for their forbearance.....what we don't need is
Blurt is a sanctimonious asshole.
BTW,
"in theory"...this is a rather basic fundamental question...either you do or you don't baby.....i know you do
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It's wrong for Russia to criminalize homosexuality. It's our business if Canadians are going to go there and get arrested.
Wow, almost an hour for you to throw that inane opinion based contrary response into the mix. Were you napping?
BTW, political activism regardless of ideology or sociopolitical position ALWAYS has an "agenda". If you see fit to not recognize that fact then there is no hope for you. :D
You're actually timing my responses? :lol:
Okay, so apparently you agree with Obvious Li that there is "constant blizzard, promotion, advancement and enforcement of the "gay agenda" in our schools, lives, work places and politics".
I disagree. I just think you're being paranoid.
We could pick away at the definition of "agenda" and say there's a "gay agenda" of wanting equal rights, but there's no "gay agenda" in the way that Obvious is talking about.
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Okay, so apparently you agree with Obvious Li that there is "constant blizzard, promotion, advancement and enforcement of the "gay agenda" in our schools, lives, work places and politics".
I disagree. I just think you're being paranoid.
We could pick away at the definition of "agenda" and say there's a "gay agenda" of wanting equal rights, but there's no "gay agenda" in the way that Obvious is talking about.
No I'm just reading the times marked on each post and as always you were pretty predicable in your timing and your response.
First of all I don't really know what Obvious has in mind when it comes to the "gay agenda" so I don't know if I agree with it or not and I don't care how the alleged "gay agenda" is defined. Gay proponents for change or equal rights or what have you, have an "agenda", this much is fact because you cannot have a common purpose for change without one. It is also fact that some gay advocates do indeed push their "agenda" harder and further than others do. At times it can easily be misconstrued as a "constant blizzard, promotion, advancement and enforcement of the "gay agenda" in our schools, lives, work places and politics", especially when the media is so quick to pick up on it and beat the drum. Denying that it doesn't exist in some form is as usual, you being contrary or contrary's sake. :roll:
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That's timing my responses! :lol:
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Read!
Why are you arguing with me when you don't even know what you're arguing about?
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That's timing my responses! :lol:
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Read!
Why are you arguing with me when you don't even know what you're arguing about?
I'm not arguing with you dumbass.
All I'm saying is that there IS an agenda attached to gay activism. Your assessment of it isn't necessarily accurate simply because you believe it to be. Unless you are the originator or practitioner of a particular agenda you really don't know exactly what the agenda entails. All you have is perception and opinion.
Which BTW, is just about all YOU ever have to offer on just about every issue you wade into. :D
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Oh, I thought you had a problem with something I said. I guess not.
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And I'm simply stating an opinion, just as you and Obvious are. So?
You fucker argue just for the sake of arguing.. You are a faggot.
I´ve seen your posts... You always argue. You are a troll.
You are like this one faggot from France whom I met LIVE a while ago. Even your fucking avatar is annoying.
I didn't force you or Renee to start arguing with me. I was originally just talking to Obvious Li. You and Renee are the ones who have a problem because I'm simply stating an opinion.
Your every fucking comment is made to argue.
No matter against whom it was for.
Always to argue. You are a pest.
You seem to oppose everything. And your ideals are like Karl Marxes. HELLO! The soviet union fell decades ago.
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I'm not arguing. There in no argument here. You just don't understand that since your stance on the subject is based solely on opinion and perception you don't have anything to base and real argument on.
As I stated previously you are just being your usual annoying self. :lol:
I never heard of REAL women, but I am sure there are lots of groups receiving government funding I do not know about. John Baird's comments about Uganda and Russia seem appropriate. However, Russia seems accepting of gays compared to a lot of countries including many very close to North America. Some Caribbean countries are not very accepting of alternative lifestyles.
I am hesitant to argue against this organization because I know ladies in my church that are supportive of them..
Then again they are political and not faith based which makes them legitimate targets for criticism.
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Okay, so apparently you agree with Obvious Li that there is "constant blizzard, promotion, advancement and enforcement of the "gay agenda" in our schools, lives, work places and politics".
I disagree. I just think you're being paranoid.
We could pick away at the definition of "agenda" and say there's a "gay agenda" of wanting equal rights, but there's no "gay agenda" in the way that Obvious is talking about.
No I'm just reading the times marked on each post and as always you were pretty predicable in your timing and your response.
well generally speaking an "agenda" is when you have a political or social platform that you are dogmatically promoting in the hope of changing the system to your benefit or purpose.....to deny there is no gay,black,red,yellow agenda in modern society is to simply deny reality........what i am pissed about is that i am sick and tired of being forced to live my life, work my job, run my family under a set of (new and ever restrictive) rules designed to accommodate a bunch of minority group (some quite small) desires or demands.....i liked this country better when it was still a free and democratic, mainly european, mainly homogenous, paradise.....
i also like the fact that we now have many many diverse cultures in this country....i would just like them all to shut the fuck up, quit whining, quit gaming the system and meld into the majority....i am sick and tired of "agendas" from anyone