I will explain why this is...
Junkies. They go into the shitter to cook up, shoot up, and often times either pass out or they just simply die in there.
When they pass out and die, the restaurant gets cleared out and shut down, until the corpse is removed and declared an overdose.
Obviously this is bad for business, having dead people in your shitter. Bad for good customers also, seeing dead people in your shitter.
There's a reason why businesses would want to curtail this...
At the Scott Road McDonald's here, which does require a "buzz in," I found a used needle on the floor. I let the manager know.
I have NEVER been denied access to a washroom, when I ask to use it. It doesn't matter if I buy anything or not.
I am not a Junkie.
The reason is simple... To keep the junkies from cooking, shooting, and dying in the shitter, when there are regular customers that just want to take a piss, wash their hands, and leave.
Why not just shoot in an alley or a tent city? Why a Mcdicks or a Timmies?
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Why not just shoot in an alley or a tent city? Why a Mcdicks or a Timmies?
They have access to clean water from the tap or the toilet.
They have light to see what they're doing.
They also have an added safeguard built in, where if they OD, it'll probably not be long until they're discovered...
Toilet water...gross...
Toilet water, as long as it's been flushed, is no different than what you'd drink from the tap.
Did you think it comes from a different pipe or something?
Germs
You flush a toilet, it's the same water filling it that you get in your kitchen tap...
How many people have pissed n shit in There thru the day...what if there is a poo smudge?
I would doubt that after a fresh flush much could contaminate the water quickly... Very few pathogens have the ability to contaminate water quickly, like right after a flush.
I used to be a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..
The owners strictly enforced the washrooms for customers only policy.
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Why not just shoot in an alley or a tent city? Why a Mcdicks or a Timmies?
They have access to clean water from the tap or the toilet.
They have light to see what they're doing.
They also have an added safeguard built in, where if they OD, it'll probably not be long until they're discovered...
Its also a way to do it in a warm place in the winter.
BTW starbucks has not only opened its bathrooms to anyone who wants to use them for any reason. They have also said that you do not have to purchase anything to sit in their restaurant seating area, or their outside patio area. Now homeless people, and wild teenagers can sit in their restaurants all day long scaring away customers. :001_rolleyes: And it was all done for the sake of political correctness cowardice. Oh well, if it ruins them, then so be it.
https://www.upi.com/New-Starbucks-policy-says-restrooms-open-for-all/8391526767349/
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BTW starbucks has not only opened its bathrooms to anyone who wants to use them for any reason. They have also said that you do not have to purchase anything to sit in their restaurant seating area, or their outside patio area. Now homeless people, and wild teenagers can sit in their restaurants all day long scaring away customers. :001_rolleyes: And it was all done for the sake of political correctness cowardice. Oh well, if it ruins them, then so be it.
https://www.upi.com/New-Starbucks-policy-says-restrooms-open-for-all/8391526767349/
Customers will get Starbucks to go from now on.
From the takeout window I suspect :wink:
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From the takeout window I suspect :wink:
That is a real possibility cc.
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I used to be a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..
The owners strictly enforced the washrooms for customers only policy.
As has every service place since the beginning of time
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"The "Third Place Policy" maintains that employees should consider anyone who enters Starbucks space, including restrooms, cafes and patios, a customer "regardless of whether they make a purchase," the company said in a statement.
"We are committed to creating a culture of warmth and belonging where everyone is welcome," Starbucks said."
We all know that most stores and all in inner cities they will have to undo this rule to remain economically viable - THEN the real trouble starts - and it's the owner's own fault - couldn't happen to a nicer PC ProgTwat :sneaky2:
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I used to be a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..
The owners strictly enforced the washrooms for customers only policy.
As has every service place since the beginning of time
Starbucks is now digging it's own grave
"We open our tables and washrooms to everyone, and will treat everyone as a customer"
"We want to be inclusive to everyone"
We all know that most stores and all in inner cities they will have to undo this rule to remain economically viable - THEN the real trouble starts - and it's the owner's own fault - couldn't happen to a nicer PC ProgTwat :sneaky2:
I think that Starbucks will have to have exceptions to this new policy.
I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
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I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
I have had this problem at Panera. my wife and I went there and ordered something and couldn't find a table to sit at. This is the kind of thing that can make a business lose customers.
Now that all scums of society can use Starbucks are their personal lounge and toilet bowl, imagine what the shitters will soon look like! Piss everywhere and shit smeared everywhere! You'll need a haz-mat suit just to take a piss!
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I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
I have had this problem at Panera. my wife and I went there and ordered something and couldn't find a table to sit at. This is the kind of thing that can make a business lose customers.
People staying after they've finished their meal?
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I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
I have had this problem at Panera. my wife and I went there and ordered something and couldn't find a table to sit at. This is the kind of thing that can make a business lose customers.
People staying after they've finished their meal?
Often times yes. Some buy a cup of coffee and sit there for hours (usually using a laptop). I don't mind people doing that if some tables are available for paying customers.
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You flush a toilet, it's the same water filling it that you get in your kitchen tap...
What about all the muck that gets in those hard to reach places?
I doubt much of it transfers to the water. Not that I'd drink toilet water unless there were no other sources and I was about to die from the dehydration, but know that Junkies have been known to use dirty puddle water to cook up and inject, so a fresh toilet bowl of water is like a dream to them!
The water that comes into the toilet is no different than tap water. But any water in the toilet will pick up the bacteria already sitting in the toilet bowl. So they would be using nasty water.
Still though, as gross as that is, they are probably much more likely to get disease by using shared needles. Most diseases are caught from other people.
BTW I hope starbucks ends up bankrupt from their PC cowardly decision.
And if they do, it would be of no loss to me! To be honest, I grab a coffee at McDonald's on the way to work in the morning... It is a superior brew when compared to Starbucks and Tim Hortons.
I even buy McCafe brand ground coffee at the grocery store.
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I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
I have had this problem at Panera. my wife and I went there and ordered something and couldn't find a table to sit at. This is the kind of thing that can make a business lose customers.
People staying after they've finished their meal?
Often times yes. Some buy a cup of coffee and sit there for hours (usually using a laptop). I don't mind people doing that if some tables are available for paying customers.
I agree Wazzzup.
The old people do that here at the IHOP on the weekends... Fucking grey-haired's sit there all day and sip coffee.
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And if they do, it would be of no loss to me! To be honest, I grab a coffee at McDonald's on the way to work in the morning... It is a superior brew when compared to Starbucks and Tim Hortons.
I even buy McCafe brand ground coffee at the grocery store.
I don't drink that much coffee these days, but back when I did, I liked a small chain called Caribou coffee much better. Starbucks always tasted burnt to me. :yuk:
It's burnt here also. Not exactly a 'premium tasting' brew. Some people seem to like it though, but there are better options for the same price or less!
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I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
I have had this problem at Panera. my wife and I went there and ordered something and couldn't find a table to sit at. This is the kind of thing that can make a business lose customers.
People staying after they've finished their meal?
Often times yes. Some buy a cup of coffee and sit there for hours (usually using a laptop). I don't mind people doing that if some tables are available for paying customers.
I agree Wazzzup.
Its a common sense issue. And it is why all stores should not be treated the same. A place that does little business and has a low rent can have people taking up tables and not suffer for it. But where this whole thing started--a place with high rent in the middle of downtown Philadelphia, with a small area for people to sit in, they may need to turn those tables over quickly or they will lose money. Under the new policy places like that may not be able to turn a profit now and Starbucks corporation may suffer for it.
If you have starbucks stock, I'd recommend selling it off ASAP.
If I owned a shop, I wouldnt want idiots just using the toilet for free..
Water, toilet paper, soap, the cleaning lady... All cost money.
Its common decency to buy something if you are gonna use the wi-fi or the toilet..
Only gypsies and negroes have to be told to act like a normal human.
If you give these bastards your little finger, they are gonna take the whole hand.
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I went out for breakfast to Smitty's this morning. If I couldn't get a table because there were non customers loitering, I would be pissed off. I would imagine the franchisee and wait staff who count on tips would not be too impressed either.
I have had this problem at Panera. my wife and I went there and ordered something and couldn't find a table to sit at. This is the kind of thing that can make a business lose customers.
People staying after they've finished their meal?
Often times yes. Some buy a cup of coffee and sit there for hours (usually using a laptop). I don't mind people doing that if some tables are available for paying customers.
I agree Wazzzup.
Its a common sense issue. And it is why all stores should not be treated the same. A place that does little business and has a low rent can have people taking up tables and not suffer for it. But where this whole thing started--a place with high rent in the middle of downtown Philadelphia, with a small area for people to sit in, they may need to turn those tables over quickly or they will lose money. Under the new policy places like that may not be able to turn a profit now and Starbucks corporation may suffer for it.
If you have starbucks stock, I'd recommend selling it off ASAP.
I should see if we have any in our mutual funds.

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That could be Tim Horton's new mascot Rose.
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That could be Tim Horton's new mascot Rose.
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That could be Tim Horton's new mascot Rose.
Turning into a comic, ya smartass.
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And if they do, it would be of no loss to me! To be honest, I grab a coffee at McDonald's on the way to work in the morning... It is a superior brew when compared to Starbucks and Tim Hortons.
I even buy McCafe brand ground coffee at the grocery store.
I don't drink that much coffee these days, but back when I did, I liked a small chain called Caribou coffee much better. Starbucks always tasted burnt to me. :yuk:
That's because it is burnt. We had this discussion a while back around here...I did some research and found that despite what Starbucks claims, they do not use 100% arabica beans in their coffee. For cost cutting sake, they mix the arabica beans with small amounts of robusto beans which have a completely different flavor profle. In order to get all the beans to taste similar they basically over roast or burn the beans to get an even flavor profile.
Hence Starbuck's coffee tastes burnt. As does every other coffee that is put through a similar process. Starbucks coffee is not smooth the way coffee should be. It has a rough ashy taste to it, that I find objectionable. Some people like it and think that's what coffee should taste like....But then again, some people drink their own urine.
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And if they do, it would be of no loss to me! To be honest, I grab a coffee at McDonald's on the way to work in the morning... It is a superior brew when compared to Starbucks and Tim Hortons.
I even buy McCafe brand ground coffee at the grocery store.
I don't drink that much coffee these days, but back when I did, I liked a small chain called Caribou coffee much better. Starbucks always tasted burnt to me. :yuk:
That's because it is burnt. We had this discussion a while back around here...I did some research and found that despite what Starbucks claims, they do not use 100% arabica beans in their coffee. For cost cutting sake, they mix the arabica beans with small amounts of robusto beans which have a completely different flavor profle. In order to get all the beans to taste similar they basically over roast or burn the beans to get an even flavor profile.
Hence Starbuck's coffee tastes burnt. As does every other coffee that is put through a similar process. Starbucks coffee is not smooth the way coffee should be. It has a rough ashy taste to it, that I find objectionable. Some people like it and think that's what coffee should taste like....But then again, some people drink their own urine.
I remember this discussion Renee..
Which chain has the best coffee in your opinion?
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And if they do, it would be of no loss to me! To be honest, I grab a coffee at McDonald's on the way to work in the morning... It is a superior brew when compared to Starbucks and Tim Hortons.
I even buy McCafe brand ground coffee at the grocery store.
I don't drink that much coffee these days, but back when I did, I liked a small chain called Caribou coffee much better. Starbucks always tasted burnt to me. :yuk:
That's because it is burnt. We had this discussion a while back around here...I did some research and found that despite what Starbucks claims, they do not use 100% arabica beans in their coffee. For cost cutting sake, they mix the arabica beans with small amounts of robusto beans which have a completely different flavor profle. In order to get all the beans to taste similar they basically over roast or burn the beans to get an even flavor profile.
Hence Starbuck's coffee tastes burnt. As does every other coffee that is put through a similar process. Starbucks coffee is not smooth the way coffee should be. It has a rough ashy taste to it, that I find objectionable. Some people like it and think that's what coffee should taste like....But then again, some people drink their own urine.
I remember this discussion Renee..
Which chain has the best coffee in your opinion?
I like Duncan Donuts/Tim Hortons or believe it or not McDonald's. I think any one of the three has better coffee than Starbucks.
But then again I dont drink a lot of coffee from chain stores. There is a local coffee house that is on my way to work, that grinds their own beans, and serves a really decent cup of coffee. If I have a choice I go there. I don't know where they get their beans and I dont really care as long as the taste agrees with me and the amount of dead bug parts and rat shit in it is low.
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I like Duncan Donuts/Tim Hortons or believe it or not McDonald's. I think any one of the three has better coffee than Starbucks.
But then again I dont drink a lot of coffee from chain stores. There is a local coffee house that is on my way to work, that grinds their own beans, and serves a really decent cup of coffee. If I have a choice I go there. I don't know where they get their beans and I dont really care as long as the taste agrees with me and the amount of dead bug parts and rat shit in it is low.
Tim Horton's has franchises in your area?
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I like Duncan Donuts/Tim Hortons or believe it or not McDonald's. I think any one of the three has better coffee than Starbucks.
But then again I dont drink a lot of coffee from chain stores. There is a local coffee house that is on my way to work, that grinds their own beans, and serves a really decent cup of coffee. If I have a choice I go there. I don't know where they get their beans and I dont really care as long as the taste agrees with me and the amount of dead bug parts and rat shit in it is low.
Tim Horton's has franchises in your area?
Yes, they started showing up a little over a year ago. I'm not sure how well they are doing though. They are in direct competition with DD, and DD is really well established and they have heavily blanketed the entire east coast.
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I like Duncan Donuts/Tim Hortons or believe it or not McDonald's. I think any one of the three has better coffee than Starbucks.
But then again I dont drink a lot of coffee from chain stores. There is a local coffee house that is on my way to work, that grinds their own beans, and serves a really decent cup of coffee. If I have a choice I go there. I don't know where they get their beans and I dont really care as long as the taste agrees with me and the amount of dead bug parts and rat shit in it is low.
Tim Horton's has franchises in your area?
Yes, they started showing up a little over a year ago. I'm not sure how well they are doing though. They are in direct competition with DD, and DD is really well established and they have heavily blanketed the entire east coast.
DD doesn't have nearly as many items on it's menu as Timmies.
We got "Diversified" yesterday - place was closed
Our usual late afternoon espresso and walk / sit in the park was espressol-ess today
The suckers were learning about how to be diverse and turn their shop into a zoo full of not customers
I hope there is enough room in the place to get in and get coffees today
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We got "Diversified" yesterday
Our usual late afternoon espresso and walk / sit in the park was espressol-ess today
The suckers were learning about how to be diverse and turn their shop into a zoo full of not customers
I hope there is enough room in the place to get in and get coffees today
They had it closed down to teach staff about how to be nice to panhandlers and squatters? Or more likely, how to stay viable.
Yes ... Much as I have always hated Starbucks head honcho progs .. and espresso good but not quite the best
the location is steps away from where we often go to spend "peace" time under a beautiful small forest of local and exotic trees .. . so too handy to not pick up a coffee to enjoy within the trees
but, diversity .. or something :wink: ... was happening yesterday
We had hoped they would let us in so we could learn how to be better people ... but ... nope!! :sad:
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Yes ... Much as I have always hated Starbucks head honcho progs .. and espresso good but not quite the best
the location is steps away from where we often go to spend "peace" time under a beautiful small forest of local and exotic trees .. . so too handy to not pick up a coffee to enjoy within the trees
but, diversity .. or something :wink: ... was happening yesterday
We had hoped they would let us in so we could learn how to be better people ... but ... nope!!
You should have told them you won't buy anything and they would have to open their doors to you. :laugh3:
Wish we had you with us to clue us in ... we didn't think of that one .. . then once inside, order before they realize they have been tricked
It will be open today, but not sure if we will be able to squeeze into the place ac_smile
Maybe they will set up a window service so customers can get a coffee?
I might try a little social experiment at the local starbucks some time. Buy a McDonalds coffee and sit there with it for a while, see if they say anything.
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I might try a little social experiment at the local starbucks some time. Buy a McDonalds coffee and sit there with it for a while, see if they say anything.
Please share the results of your experiment with the rest of the class here.
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I might try a little social experiment at the local starbucks some time. Buy a McDonalds coffee and sit there with it for a while, see if they say anything.
Please share the results of your experiment with the rest of the class here.
If I do it I will be sure to tell you all what happened.
All of this reminds me of my time when I was a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..
The owners strictly enforced the washrooms for paying customers only policy.