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Title: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2018, 02:19:28 AM
Good news.



8 to go.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2018, 02:20:18 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Good news.



8 to go.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 09, 2018, 02:39:06 AM
They brought in White expert divers, so of course the mission will be a success!
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 09, 2018, 02:39:31 AM
I heard about this but didn't pay much attention until today...the hell were those leaders thinking??!!
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 09, 2018, 02:44:08 AM
They weren't thinking how fast water fills in holes...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 09, 2018, 02:47:30 AM
No shit...and leaving all their back packs at the entrance and walking in at least 6 miles?  Morons.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2018, 02:49:18 AM
4 k's, and I believe they retreated to the 4k mark after flood waters kept pushing them deeper in.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 09, 2018, 03:10:50 AM
For instance, when I traveled through the Mohave Desert, there were some warning signs to stay out of certain areas when it rains.  Rain is so uncommon there that it's not an issue generally, but when it does come?  You can get swept away to your death if you're chilling in the wrong place, and fast...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2018, 03:27:10 AM
I saw a flash flood in our desert once. You hear about them, but you can't quite believe it until you witness it.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 09, 2018, 03:31:18 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"I saw a flash flood in our desert once. You hear about them, but you can't quite believe it until you witness it.

They rarely happen, but when they do, and if you're in the wrong place, you're FUCKED!  It comes so quick...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2018, 03:33:37 AM
I remember living near a river and watching torrential rains fill the meadows so quick that ankle deep water would drag you off your feet along the edges. A 50 metre wide river turned into a 1k wide floodplain just like that.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 09, 2018, 03:47:31 AM
Water is the most destructive natural source that this Earth can ever see, short of an Asteroid colliding with us...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 09, 2018, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"No shit...and leaving all their back packs at the entrance and walking in at least 6 miles?  Morons.




It wasn't 6 miles but I agree... I don't blame the kids though, I blame the coach 100% and I hope he gets punished for it.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 09, 2018, 09:57:40 AM
Every rescue type situation like this spins my head. I'm sick with worry for everyone, the boys, the brave volunteers... and thankful to the kind hearts on the edges donating food and comfort to brave volunteers.



I won't be happy until they are all out... They were lucky to be found in the first place... Very very lucky indeed.



The soccer coach should be flogged.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 09, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
4 more out now - 8 out in all



4 boys and coach remain behind
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 09, 2018, 11:27:43 AM
Yep and I for one am more relaxed about it than I was yesterday.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2018, 07:48:45 PM
Just four more...amazing effort by the rescue teams.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 10, 2018, 01:03:35 AM
Latest - There is optimism that the dive team is getting more efficient in their attempts. They successfully extracted the second group of four a full two hours faster than the first, officials said.



"Two days, eight Boars," read a Facebook post by the Thai navy SEALS about the operation at the Tham Luan Nang Non cave that began Sunday, more than two weeks after the Wild Boars soccer team became trapped.



Their families were being kept at a distance because of fears of infection and the emaciated-looking boys were eating a rice-based porridge because they were still too weak to take regular food, authorities said. All those extracted reportedly showed signs of infection.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2018, 01:07:13 AM
I haven't been following this. What were the young soccer players doing there in the first place?
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 10, 2018, 01:10:35 AM
These are the two British cave divers that originally located the group.  These guys are the 'go-to' guys that get the call when no one else will do...









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Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 10, 2018, 01:11:18 AM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I haven't been following this. What were the young soccer players doing there in the first place?

Exploring a cave, and then heave rains flooded it.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2018, 09:32:00 AM
All twelve boys and their coach have now been rescued.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 10, 2018, 09:36:08 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"All twelve boys and their coach have now been rescued.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:




Yep... everyone is safe... now they have to recover.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 10, 2018, 10:25:55 AM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I haven't been following this. What were the young soccer players doing there in the first place?

Not a good idea obviously



But as Mel said, they went exploring and heavy rains happened filled long low sections of it .. making it impossible to get through completely filled sections of it  without extraordinary means and expert help



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Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2018, 12:43:40 PM
I am very grateful to all the volunteers who put this rescue together, and grateful for the good outcome.



I pause to honor the one who died.



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Saman Guna, former Thai navy diver (and triathlete) .... risked and lost his life in the cave rescue effort. He didn't ask about the ethnicity or immigration status of the boys in the cave.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 10, 2018, 12:52:01 PM
Agree. He was one of the many heroes there





[Note: Said without misusing his death as a vehicle to promote a political agenda]
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 10, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
One thing that's for sure...  All of the rescuers had balls of steel, entering into a situation that they knew was about as risky as a rescue could get.  Sadly one did have to pay the ultimate price.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 10, 2018, 05:39:30 PM
While I would have put it very differently than Mel did, there actually was invaluable help from Brit experienced  cave divers



in fact, the 2 Brits initially brought in found the boys when others failed simply because they were more used to navigating small tunnels with virtually zero visibility



They also left a line in place for others to follow in and out which overcame the visibility problem for all the divers



It is also my understanding that many Thai Seals worked with ultimately 7 Brits them to get them all out



A Good Read on Brit Help, but it is light on the  major Thai Seal rolls (//https)
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Angry White Male on July 10, 2018, 06:05:01 PM
If it must be done right, you need to call in the white. :rules:
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 11, 2018, 08:03:21 PM
.

Batter UP!! Play Ball!! Let's have a really  peachy ball game





























Turns out the kids were heavily sedated  .. my guess out cold ... for the underwater water parts of the trip out



That helps me understand how they could get all out without incidences of raw fear foiling the effort .. knocking mask off etc. etc. which I had expected would happen in several if not all cases



So it seems they were literally pulled / pushed through underwater sections  while inert / dead weight and predictable ... NOW it makes sense to me how the were able to get them ALL out OK
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 11, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Quote from: "cc".

Batter UP!! Play Ball!! Let's have a really  peachy ball game



Turns out the kids were heavily sedated  .. my guess out cold ... for the underwater water parts of the trip out



That helps me understand how they could get all out without incidences of raw fear foiling the effort .. knocking mask off etc. etc. which I had expected would happen in several if not all cases



So it seems they were literally pulled / pushed through thew underwater sections  while inert / dead weight and predictable ... NOW it makes sense to me how the were able to get them ALL out OK


Yes. There is no way they could risk a panic attack from any of them.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:41:13 AM
Quote from: "cc"
Turns out the kids were heavily sedated  .. my guess out cold ... for the underwater water parts of the trip out

That helps me understand how they could get all out without incidences of raw fear foiling the effort .. knocking mask off etc. etc. which I had expected would happen in several if not all cases

So it seems they were literally pulled / pushed through thew underwater sections  while inert / dead weight and predictable ... NOW it makes sense to me how the were able to get them ALL out OK

It does make sense.  A situation requiring the most elite cave divers from around the world to even find them, and then expecting kids that cannot even SWIM, let alone having developed the skills to even simply snorkel on a beach... knocking their asses out for the journey just makes good sense for all involved.



There are sleeping drugs in pill form available, that are not available to the general public, even by prescription from a Doctor.  Throw one of those down the kids throat, and he'd be out cold.



As someone that has spent a lot of time in and around water, I know that the biggest risk of trying to save someone drowning and panicking, is them latching on to you with a death grip, and bringing you under with them also...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 12, 2018, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I haven't been following this. What were the young soccer players doing there in the first place?

They simply  went on a cave exploration tour together with their coach .... got far in and heavy rains filled the lower areas preventing them from getting back out .. very bad timing .. an accident waiting to happen  ... and very poor judgement on the part of the coach
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 07:39:57 PM
These two guys are going to get our Cross of Valour for their effort saving the kids. Dr Harris was the one who said, who left the cave first, and one who drugged them I guess since he's not only an expert cave diver, he's an anaesthetist as well. A sad part of the story is that Dr Harris father died not long after he left the cave.





http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-11/thai-cave-rescue-australian-diver-group-wet-mules-members-helped/9981378
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 07:41:48 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I haven't been following this. What were the young soccer players doing there in the first place?

They simply  went on a cave exploration tour together with their coach .... got far in and heavy rains filled the lower areas preventing them from getting back out .. very bad timing .. an accident waiting to happen  ... and very poor judgement on the part of the coach




One of the boys was having a birthday and they stopped at a shop there to buy food for the party they were going to have in the cave.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2018, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: "caskur"These two guys are going to get our Cross of Valour for their effort saving the kids. Dr Harris was the one who said, who left the cave first, and one who drugged them I guess since he's not only an expert cave diver, he's an anaesthetist as well. A sad part of the story is that Dr Harris father died not long after he left the cave.





http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-11/thai-cave-rescue-australian-diver-group-wet-mules-members-helped/9981378


And he's from Adelaide!!!
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: "caskur"A sad part of the story is that Dr Harris father died not long after he left the cave.


Assuming father was of sound mind, at least he died knowing his son was OK and mission was a success...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "caskur"These two guys are going to get our Cross of Valour for their effort saving the kids. Dr Harris was the one who said, who left the cave first, and one who drugged them I guess since he's not only an expert cave diver, he's an anaesthetist as well. A sad part of the story is that Dr Harris father died not long after he left the cave.





http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-11/thai-cave-rescue-australian-diver-group-wet-mules-members-helped/9981378


And he's from Adelaide!!!




Yes and his diving partner Craig is a Perth Vet...



they deserve the medals of some sort.... all those guys, from the brave Poms that found them to the guys who manned the pumps.



I think the Thai widow needs compensation and the rice farmer whose land was flooded too needs FULL compensation.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2018, 08:37:38 PM
Wait...white people helping to save Asians...



That's not right!!!



Preach's view of the world excludes such racial harmony.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 08:40:03 PM
White people are always bad, until they're the only ones that can pull off the impossible, risking their own lives to save some Thai kids...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Wait...white people helping to save Asians...



That's not right!!!



Preach's view of the world excludes such racial harmony.




 ac_lmfao





I think there is something wrong with that guy... he's land locked in the USA so you can't expect too much... Vitriol is just as bad.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Wait...white people helping to save Asians...



That's not right!!!



Preach's view of the world excludes such racial harmony.

ZIIING
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 14, 2018, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"I am very grateful to all the volunteers who put this rescue together, and grateful for the good outcome.



I pause to honor the one who died.



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Saman Guna, former Thai navy diver (and triathlete) .... risked and lost his life in the cave rescue effort. He didn't ask about the ethnicity or immigration status of the boys in the cave.




One of the rescuers is a finnish man who has a legal business in Thailand.. A real legal immigrant..
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 06:15:52 PM
ABC 4 Corners tonight has a special on the recuers how they thought that they would lose 50% of those boys... too bad the yanks won't see it.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 11:37:38 PM
ac_wot

Elon Musk is causing controversy on Twitter again.



This time, the Tesla CEO and billionaire attacked one of the divers who played an instrumental role in rescuing the Thai soccer team that was stuck in a cave last week. On Sunday, Musk called him a "pedo" on the social network.



Musk's derogatory tweet appears to be a response to comments made by British diver Vern Unsworth, who helped extract the boys and their coach from the Tham Luang cave complex. In an interview with CNN on Friday, Unsworth, a cave explorer, said that the mini-submarine Musk sent to aid the rescue mission was just "a PR stunt."



The diver didn't stop there, however. He said Musk could "stick his submarine where it hurts," and that it had "absolutely no chance of working." Unsworth said the mini-sub was too long and rigid for the cave conditions and that Musk had "no conception" of what the cave passages were like. He also said that Musk was asked to leave the cave, saying that he shouldn't have been there.



Musk fired back on Twitter over the weekend, taking his reply a step too far in calling Unsworth a pedophile, causing many on the social media platform to ask Musk to delete the tweet, which he later did.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/elon-musk-calls-a-diver-that-rescued-thai-soccer-team-a-pedo-on-twitter/ar-AAA7dPE?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 11:44:25 PM
I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...

What a strange and sick thing to call the cave diver.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 11:49:56 PM
Not good for share values, this behaviour...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 11:55:52 PM
His shares have no value. His "profit" is totally derived from government subsidies, which are set to dry up as governments come to realise that subsidisation helps no-one but the rich.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 12:06:02 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"His shares have no value. His "profit" is totally derived from government subsidies, which are set to dry up as governments come to realise that subsidisation helps no-one but the rich.

This is true. Taxpayers in western countries have made him rich.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2018, 12:33:49 AM
And they will make him poor when his scams and idiotic "inventions" are exposed.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 16, 2018, 12:38:52 AM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...

Bingo!! One prog's "racist" is another's "pedo"



What a slug this corporate dole scammer is
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Zetsu on July 16, 2018, 01:40:03 AM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...


I think Elon might be a pedo, lol.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...


I think Elon might be a pedo, lol.

Bad boy.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Zetsu on July 16, 2018, 04:20:51 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...


I think Elon might be a pedo, lol.

Bad boy.

 :laugh:


It wouldn't be surprising if he is one, else I can't think of any reasons why he would bring this up all of a sudden, lol.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...


I think Elon might be a pedo, lol.

Bad boy.

 :laugh:


It wouldn't be surprising if he is one, else I can't think of any reasons why he would bring this up all of a sudden, lol.

Because he's a thin skinned asshole.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"I guess if you can't call 'em a Racist, Pedo is the next best thing...


I think Elon might be a pedo, lol.

Bad boy.

 :laugh:


It wouldn't be surprising if he is one, else I can't think of any reasons why he would bring this up all of a sudden, lol.

It was a childish name for Elon Musk to call him.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2018, 07:13:20 PM
Elon Musk is a child. He lives in a child's dream where his cars are the future of personal transport, and his trucks that can only cover 250 miles will be the backbone of human logistics.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Elon Musk is a child. He lives in a child's dream where his cars are the future of personal transport, and his trucks that can only cover 250 miles will be the backbone of human logistics.

That could be.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2018, 02:52:05 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Elon Musk is a child. He lives in a child's dream where his cars are the future of personal transport, and his trucks that can only cover 250 miles will be the backbone of human logistics.

He's made out like a bandit off the backs of taxpayers.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 17, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
"I was confident of getting the kid out, I wasn't 100% confident of getting him out alive." British diver Jason Mallinson risked his life in the #ThaiCaveRescue to save the boys...his story tonight on @4corners



"The probability of success was about as low as you can get," US Mission Commander Major Charles Hodges said.



"I was fully expecting that we would accept casualties. Maybe three, four, possibly five would die."



For the dangerous three-hour long journey, each of the children was sedated to stop him from panicking. The rescue was so dangerous the Australian Government negotiated immunity from Thai authorities for any Australians involved in the sedation of the children in case anything went wrong.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 17, 2018, 03:47:56 PM
The journey was broken up into nine sections and expert British divers were responsible for bringing them through the most complicated spots, using guide lines to help them navigate the passageways. (//http)



"We'd submerge with the kid. And depending how the line laid, we'd either have them on the right-hand side or the left-hand side, either holding their back or holding their chest," Mallinson said.



"I had to have the lad really close to me because if you didn't, you were bashing his head against the rocks," he said.



"If we bashed him against a rock too hard and it dislodged that mask and flooded his mask, he was a goner. So that's why we had to be very slow and careful about not banging them against rocks."



Instead Mallinson said he extended his head above the boy's so that his head hit the rocks instead.



"The visibility was that bad, you couldn't see the rock until you actually hit it," he said.




Two divers were assigned to each child so that at least one was always holding on to the child.



Australian diver Harris, assessed the children at different stages of the operation to ensure they were ok to continue.



"Without him, we wouldn't have been able to do what we did," Mallinson said. "His bedside manner when he was there with the kids and that, talking to them, calming them down and stuff like that.



"So yeah, he was the, the linchpin of the operation."



While it's been reported that Dr Harris also decided which children came out first, fellow Aussie diver Callen said this wasn't true. He said it was the decision of the boys, coach and Thai Navy SEALs who were with them. The group was told about the operation and they decided who came out first.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2018, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: "cc"The journey was broken up into nine sections and expert British divers were responsible for bringing them through the most complicated spots, using guide lines to help them navigate the passageways. (//http)



"We'd submerge with the kid. And depending how the line laid, we'd either have them on the right-hand side or the left-hand side, either holding their back or holding their chest," Mallinson said.



"I had to have the lad really close to me because if you didn't, you were bashing his head against the rocks," he said.



"If we bashed him against a rock too hard and it dislodged that mask and flooded his mask, he was a goner. So that's why we had to be very slow and careful about not banging them against rocks."



Instead Mallinson said he extended his head above the boy's so that his head hit the rocks instead.



"The visibility was that bad, you couldn't see the rock until you actually hit it," he said.




Two divers were assigned to each child so that at least one was always holding on to the child.



Australian diver Harris, assessed the children at different stages of the operation to ensure they were ok to continue.



"Without him, we wouldn't have been able to do what we did," Mallinson said. "His bedside manner when he was there with the kids and that, talking to them, calming them down and stuff like that.



"So yeah, he was the, the linchpin of the operation."



While it's been reported that Dr Harris also decided which children came out first, fellow Aussie diver Callen said this wasn't true. He said it was the decision of the boys, coach and Thai Navy SEALs who were with them. The group was told about the operation and they decided who came out first.

They are heroes.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 17, 2018, 08:32:12 PM
A true example of real courage. Not like those that kick balls around grass, or pretend to be superhuman in movies.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 17, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"A true example of real courage. ....

" real courage" to a very high degree ... from start to finish and for everyone involved .. and from all angles



Together they did what was essentially  impossible to do at least so far as getting "everyone of them" out alive
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2018, 01:50:12 AM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Bricktop"A true example of real courage. ....

" real courage" to a very high degree ... from start to finish and for everyone involved .. and from all angles



Together they did what was essentially  impossible to do at least so far as getting "everyone of them" out alive

They are pedos. Sick joke, they proved their bravery.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 03:29:10 AM
Those divers got those kids out.... they thought they were going to be dead... they thought they'd lose 30-50% of them during the journey out.



One little bump of their full face masks and the boys would drown.... That is how worried they were. One tiny mistake and it was all over red rover!~
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 18, 2018, 02:21:26 PM
The finnish diver said that it wasnt as bad as the media portrays it..



He said the dives were short and there were plenty of air pockets if something went wrong.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 02:28:43 PM
He's an idiot then... the fact that one experienced navy seal person died during the rescue course, proves it wasn't a safe journey.



I watched the documentary on the guys on ground zero and the words that came out of THEIR mouths.



One knock of those face masks on those kids meant instant death. The actual guys carrying them through the narrow passages could not even see the gap through the mud... those diving rescuers were bumping their heads on rocks the whole way.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2018, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Those divers got those kids out.... they thought they were going to be dead... they thought they'd lose 30-50% of them during the journey out.



One little bump of their full face masks and the boys would drown.... That is how worried they were. One tiny mistake and it was all over red rover!~

 :ohmy:
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 02:38:58 PM
What that collective group did was miraculous and should never be diminished or understated in any way.





That was an historical event.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
And when the last guys were coming out, one pump had broken and the cave was filling up with water and they just escaped with their own lives with mere minutes to spare..
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2018, 03:06:10 PM
Quote from: "caskur"And when the last guys were coming out, one pump had broken and the cave was filling up with water and they just escaped with their own lives with mere minutes to spare..

That was close.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"And when the last guys were coming out, one pump had broken and the cave was filling up with water and they just escaped with their own lives with mere minutes to spare..

That was close.




We had coverage 24/7 on the event.... But things were clarified and cleared up in the Four Corners special, (and excellent piece of 56 minutes of TV)... I thought about filming some of it and posting it on my YT channel for our North American friends but I'm running out of space on my PC. There are no transcripts either which is annoying. If Bricktop watches it, he might write up some interesting facts of the event.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 18, 2018, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: "caskur"He's an idiot then... the fact that one experienced navy seal person died during the rescue course, proves it wasn't a safe journey.



I watched the documentary on the guys on ground zero and the words that came out of THEIR mouths.



One knock of those face masks on those kids meant instant death. The actual guys carrying them through the narrow passages could not even see the gap through the mud... those diving rescuers were bumping their heads on rocks the whole way.


THAI navy seal...



People fall off cliffs while taking selfies... Experienced selfie takers..



Everything is dangerous when you are stupid.





The diver died because he ran out of oxygen.





Only one section of that cave was entirely flooded... And they pulled a line to follow..





The mask has a nozzle which you put in your mouth.. You can breathe even when the mask is flooded.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 18, 2018, 03:56:58 PM
The finnish diver isnt an idiot..



He just doesnt want to be called a hero when there is no call for it.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 04:24:53 PM
Those boys were knocked out...the Fin is definitely not a hero, he probably lied about being there anyway.





anyway, you might be in luck and see the whole special... It's on fb too. Not sure about yours or our copyright boundaries but if you're relying your info on some dingbat Fin, leave me out of it. I'll take the word from the mouths that maneuvered the young bodies through treacherous spaces going against strong tied and cold muddy water.  





https://www.facebook.com/abc4corners/
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2018, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Those boys were knocked out...the Fin is definitely not a hero, he probably lied about being there anyway.

You know so many details of the rescue caskur.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Those boys were knocked out...the Fin is definitely not a hero, he probably lied about being there anyway.

You know so many details of the rescue caskur.


Well it's our part of the world... we get to Asia within hours so our media are right there PLUS the two Aussie doctors were the key to success of getting them out. They were called in especially for the project.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 18, 2018, 05:58:02 PM
Quote from: "caskur"LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.


Had to remove their tanks!?



Like... OMG!



 :laugh3:





What does the visibility have to do with anything? They had a line..
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: caskur on July 18, 2018, 06:18:44 PM
Because if they lose the line, they're buggered.



You try and take your tanks off with one hand on the line... as well as moving a kid under you bumping your bobble head on rocks.



I don't think you've gotten enough information by the sounds of it... and those pockets the idiot Fin was yakking on about were oxygen depleted...



I want his name...
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2018, 06:53:24 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.


Had to remove their tanks!?



Like... OMG!



 :laugh3:





What does the visibility have to do with anything? They had a line..


Done a lot of diving in tight places, have you, Thor?
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: cc on July 18, 2018, 08:46:37 PM
I was going to follow up on that, but it might have made some people blush



 ac_smile
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 18, 2018, 08:51:41 PM
Sodomy
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2018, 09:17:56 PM
:oeudC:
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 19, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.


Had to remove their tanks!?



Like... OMG!



 :laugh3:





What does the visibility have to do with anything? They had a line..


Done a lot of diving in tight places, have you, Thor?


I´m thinking diving under the river ice during night stimulates similar feelings..





You know the tunnel is going somewhere.. There is no need to panic.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 19, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.


Had to remove their tanks!?



Like... OMG!



 :laugh3:





What does the visibility have to do with anything? They had a line..


Done a lot of diving in tight places, have you, Thor?


I´m thinking diving under the river ice during night stimulates similar feelings..





You know the tunnel is going somewhere.. There is no need to panic.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2018, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.


Had to remove their tanks!?



Like... OMG!



 :laugh3:





What does the visibility have to do with anything? They had a line..


Done a lot of diving in tight places, have you, Thor?

Diving into a bottle of cheap booze, yes.
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 19, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Because if they lose the line, they're buggered.



You try and take your tanks off with one hand on the line... as well as moving a kid under you bumping your bobble head on rocks.



I don't think you've gotten enough information by the sounds of it... and those pockets the idiot Fin was yakking on about were oxygen depleted...



I want his name...


No they arent..



Its there so that your grandma can navigate through the cave.





No they werent.. Why would they be oxygen depleted.



The air in the pocket where the boys were at was gonna get heavy if they remained there.







You people are really dramatic.. Everything gets blown out of proportion.





We give you more plain assessment of the situation.. "it was regular diving in a tunnel.. Dats it".
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2018, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"LOL... those divers had to remove their tanks to squash through spaces along that track... one space, was 38 cm high...



Did that stupid Fin "who doesn't want to be a hero" pull any of the boys PLUS another grown man through the 38 centimeter gap of mud with ZERO visibility?



Give me that Fin's name and I'll ring him up and chew off his wingnut ear.


Had to remove their tanks!?



Like... OMG!



 :laugh3:





What does the visibility have to do with anything? They had a line..


Done a lot of diving in tight places, have you, Thor?

Diving into a bottle of cheap booze, yes.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: 4 kids rescued from Thai cave!
Post by: Odinson on July 19, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
Canadians cant drink even half a bottle without liver failure and death.  ac_biggrin







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