Title: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:03:41 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:03:41 AM
Here's the problem with big trucks like my old Kenworth... They have air-ride seats, but seat-belt mounting points are on the floor. As you can see, this creates a very big problem... A solidly mounted seatbelt, on a seat that can travel a foot up and down. If you want to know what it's like to be crushed by your 'safety webbing,' come for a ride with me.
Remember that 'Emergency Personnel' are exempt from seat belt laws in this country, as it could 'interfere with their duties'. Fair enough.
So now that is has been established that I cannot properly wear a seatbelt either (in a 100,000 pound truck that will snap telephone poles like fucking toothpicks, I'm not too concerned about 'my safety', and they should not be either)...
Trucks like mine have always come with what is called a 'Komfort Latch' tradenamed, or basically a belt-lock, meaning you pull the belt out, and you can lock it in that position, so that it doesn't retract. Allows you to wear the belt loose, or just drape it over your shoulder to make it look like you're belted in.
We still do not belt in, but due to bullshit enforcement, we have to pretend we are belted in.
This is the wear and tear that a relatively new T-Shirt of mine gets from the friction of simply draping the belt over my shoulder. It is not even 'clicked in.' Just draped over. The seat moves crazily up and down, especially in a dump truck like mine that rides like a fucking Bucking Bronco.
I'm glad the cops take such time to enforce our safety... It has made a tremendous difference in the amount of shirts I've had to replace, while having done this job for 20 years never actually properly buckled in once, and never will.
Oh well... Shirts are cheaper than a stream of seat-belt tickets! They USED to leave us alone...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 11, 2018, 02:18:46 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 11, 2018, 02:18:46 AM
When I first started driving big truck at 19, it was understood that the cops would typically leave us alone if we weren't belted in, generally speaking... Most cops left us alone. And then quickly things changed, to a 'no exemption' policy for anyone. Doesn't matter who they are, or what they drive, ticket them if not belted.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Here's the problem with big trucks like my old Kenworth... They have air-ride seats, but seat-belt mounting points are on the floor. As you can see, this creates a very big problem... A solidly mounted seatbelt, on a seat that can travel a foot up and down. If you want to know what it's like to be crushed by your 'safety webbing,' come for a ride with me.
Remember that 'Emergency Personnel' are exempt from seat belt laws in this country, as it could 'interfere with their duties'. Fair enough.
So now that is has been established that I cannot properly wear a seatbelt either (in a 100,000 pound truck that will snap telephone poles like fucking toothpicks, I'm not too concerned about 'my safety', and they should not be either)...
Trucks like mine have always come with what is called a 'Komfort Latch' tradenamed, or basically a belt-lock, meaning you pull the belt out, and you can lock it in that position, so that it doesn't retract. Allows you to wear the belt loose, or just drape it over your shoulder to make it look like you're belted in.
We still do not belt in, but due to bullshit enforcement, we have to pretend we are belted in.
This is the wear and tear that a relatively new T-Shirt of mine gets from the friction of simply draping the belt over my shoulder. It is not even 'clicked in.' Just draped over. The seat moves crazily up and down, especially in a dump truck like mine that rides like a fucking Bucking Bronco.
I'm glad the cops take such time to enforce our safety... It has made a tremendous difference in the amount of shirts I've had to replace, while having done this job for 20 years never actually properly buckled in once, and never will.
Oh well... Shirts are cheaper than a stream of seat-belt tickets! They USED to leave us alone...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i65.tinypic.com/28iszky.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i65.tinypic.com/28iszky.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Brown towels to hide the skid marks eh?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:20:12 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:20:12 AM
Officer friendly needs to stop worrying about my personal safety, since I don't wear a seat belt properly anyhow. The ticket earnings he gets from us may look good to his superiors, but does nothing for road safety.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:22:28 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:22:28 AM
Brown towels to hide the skid marks eh?Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Learn to edit your posts properly.
When I furnished this place, I went with a darker theme for everything. May not go so dark next time. Shows everything...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2018, 02:44:34 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2018, 02:44:34 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:49:05 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 02:49:05 AM
As usual, they just quote the Motor Vehicle Act here, and issue the ticket. That's what they are paid to do. Collect revenue, and nothing more.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2018, 02:53:09 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2018, 02:53:09 AM
People in positions of authority often exempt themselves from the rules they try to enforce on us. Everything from seatbelts, self defence, to superannuation funds. Such hypocrisy will never end. That's why revolts inevitably happen. People get tired of being second class.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You going to lead the people to the ramparts, Vladimir?
Pissants like you don't have the balls to stand up to authority. Instead you mouth off in forums and pretend you're a badass.
Just another sheep in the flock, Aaron. And not a particularly significant one.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 03:11:15 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 11, 2018, 03:11:15 AM
I will NEVER get a ticket ever again from that officer. They'll know fucking pain and discomfort, for 10 straight fucking hours.
They have no idea. They can fuck off with the 'safety shit'...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2018, 03:37:06 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2018, 03:37:06 AM
People in positions of authority often exempt themselves from the rules they try to enforce on us. Everything from seatbelts, self defence, to superannuation funds. Such hypocrisy will never end. That's why revolts inevitably happen. People get tired of being second class.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You going to lead the people to the ramparts, Vladimir?
Pissants like you don't have the balls to stand up to authority. Instead you mouth off in forums and pretend you're a badass.
Just another sheep in the flock, Aaron. And not a particularly significant one.
Pipe down you tubby little banana shirt wearing geriatric clown.
Economics kills authority in the end.
Have some tapioca pudding and watch the coming Depression show.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 11, 2018, 05:43:26 AM
Post by: caskur on July 11, 2018, 05:43:26 AM
I would never not wear a seat belt these days though... going through windscreens doesn't do your face and teeth any good. Having said that, I drove off from the beach one night a few weeks back without belting up and my car let me know it.... I thought, "holy shit dementia is setting in early."
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 11, 2018, 09:29:26 AM
Post by: Blazor on July 11, 2018, 09:29:26 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2018, 11:24:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2018, 11:24:38 AM
I miss those days when I was a kid, not wearing a seat belt. Sitting in the passenger side of my moms Thunderbird on my knees so I could let my mullet blow in the wind while I hung out the window in my sleeveless rock tshirt lol.Quote from: "Blazor"
My truck makes loud noises if you don't wear your belt. It drives me crazy, so I wear it even when I'm working on my farm.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 11, 2018, 01:24:28 PM
Post by: Blazor on July 11, 2018, 01:24:28 PM
I miss those days when I was a kid, not wearing a seat belt. Sitting in the passenger side of my moms Thunderbird on my knees so I could let my mullet blow in the wind while I hung out the window in my sleeveless rock tshirt lol.Quote from: "Blazor"
My truck makes loud noises if you don't wear your belt. It drives me crazy, so I wear it even when I'm working on my farm.
Like dings and alarms going off? Might be a way to disable it.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
I miss those days when I was a kid, not wearing a seat belt. Sitting in the passenger side of my moms Thunderbird on my knees so I could let my mullet blow in the wind while I hung out the window in my sleeveless rock tshirt lol.Quote from: "Blazor"
My truck makes loud noises if you don't wear your belt. It drives me crazy, so I wear it even when I'm working on my farm.
Like dings and alarms going off? Might be a way to disable it.
I assume he means the beeping that goes on in intervals until you buckle up.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Angry White Male on July 12, 2018, 03:05:41 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on July 12, 2018, 03:05:41 AM
My truck makes loud noises if you don't wear your belt. It drives me crazy, so I wear it even when I'm working on my farm.Quote from: "Herman"
Those chimes can generally be turned off. On my Mustang, the procedure to do so is outlined in the owners manual, and it's something like turning the key on-off-on-off, and then buckling and unbuckling the belt ten times! Something like that. But the chimes can be turned off on most vehicles by the owners.
I have done so, even though I do wear a belt properly in my car. My Kenworth? I'm not too fucking worried about being belted in properly, as very little could cause me to fly through the windshield. And if it did, I'd be dead, belt or not!
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 03:09:44 AM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 03:09:44 AM
I miss those days when I was a kid, not wearing a seat belt. Sitting in the passenger side of my moms Thunderbird on my knees so I could let my mullet blow in the wind while I hung out the window in my sleeveless rock tshirt lol.Quote from: "Blazor"
My truck makes loud noises if you don't wear your belt. It drives me crazy, so I wear it even when I'm working on my farm.
Like dings and alarms going off? Might be a way to disable it.
Easy way is to go to the wreckers and cut out the seatbelt bit to permanently stay on in your vehicle. I hate 4x4 driving in the bush with a belt on.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:10:58 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:10:58 AM
I miss those days when I was a kid, not wearing a seat belt. Sitting in the passenger side of my moms Thunderbird on my knees so I could let my mullet blow in the wind while I hung out the window in my sleeveless rock tshirt lol.Quote from: "Blazor"
When I was a kid, and I'm pretty close to your age, we could still ride in the back of a truck bed around here!
That changed though, sometime in the late 1980's. Not sure exactly when that change happened, but sometime around there. Even though seatbelt laws were on the books here since the early 1980's, I don't think they were really heavily enforced until many years later.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:14:35 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:14:35 AM
Easy way is to go to the wreckers and cut out the seatbelt bit to permanently stay on in your vehicle. I hate 4x4 driving in the bush with a belt on.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
On most US vehicles, the chimes can be disabled, as I can do on my Mustang. You're still left with the dash light on, but no noises...
I used to own a 4X4 (You call 'em Ute's, right?) First thing that came off when I hit the dirt was the fucking belt. I needed freedom to lean out the window for obstacles, etc!
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 03:16:39 AM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 03:16:39 AM
Easy way is to go to the wreckers and cut out the seatbelt bit to permanently stay on in your vehicle. I hate 4x4 driving in the bush with a belt on.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
On most US vehicles, the chimes can be disabled, as I can do on my Mustang. You're still left with the dash light on, but no noises...
I used to own a 4X4 (You call 'em Ute's, right?) First thing that came off when I hit the dirt was the fucking belt. I needed freedom to look out the window for obstacles, etc.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
I hate 4x4 driving in the bush with a belt on.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I know how you feel, I have a Jeep lol.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
I miss those days when I was a kid, not wearing a seat belt. Sitting in the passenger side of my moms Thunderbird on my knees so I could let my mullet blow in the wind while I hung out the window in my sleeveless rock tshirt lol.Quote from: "Blazor"
When I was a kid, and I'm pretty close to your age, we could still ride in the back of a truck bed around here!
That changed though, sometime in the late 1980's. Not sure exactly when that change happened, but sometime around there. Even though seatbelt laws were on the books here since the early 1980's, I don't think they were really heavily enforced until many years later.
Yup! Was the same for me. Those days were awesome. We will never get the 80s back
Now you can ride in the back, if there is a seat installed with a belt. Crazy.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 02:30:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 02:30:15 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Angry White Male on July 12, 2018, 02:43:31 PM
Post by: Angry White Male on July 12, 2018, 02:43:31 PM
Sometimes I see dogs riding in the back of trucks here in the city.Quote from: "Fashionista"
That is common here, and is OK as long as the dog is somehow tethered to the vehicle.
I used to take a friends dog for a drive and a walk, because the poor thing never got out. Had a pickup at the time with a sliding rear window, and would just run the leash through and click the center seat belt around the loop.
Was actually pulled over once, because the cop wasn't sure dog was tethered. Cop was satisfied with how dog was secured once he could see how it was done.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 02:56:47 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 02:56:47 PM
The federal government will make seatbelts mandatory on all new buses.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Installation will be mandatory starting in 2020.
How their use will be governed will be up to the Provinces, since each Province sets its own Motor Vehicle Acts regulations...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 12, 2018, 03:16:15 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 12, 2018, 03:16:15 PM
Too long, didn't read?Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Officer friendly needs to stop worrying about my personal safety, since I don't wear a seat belt properly anyhow. The ticket earnings he gets from us may look good to his superiors, but does nothing for road safety.
If I read anything long it has to be history or biology related.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 12, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 12, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
Brown towels to hide the skid marks eh?Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Learn to edit your posts properly.
When I furnished this place, I went with a darker theme for everything. May not go so dark next time. Shows everything...
Is the missing comma driving you bananas?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
Sometimes I see dogs riding in the back of trucks here in the city.Quote from: "Fashionista"
That is common here, and is OK as long as the dog is somehow tethered to the vehicle.
I used to take a friends dog for a drive and a walk, because the poor thing never got out. Had a pickup at the time with a sliding rear window, and would just run the leash through and click the center seat belt around the loop.
Was actually pulled over once, because the cop wasn't sure dog was tethered. Cop was satisfied with how dog was secured once he could see how it was done.
When our dog was younger, my husband would take her for drives in his company pick up truck..
But, only in the cab.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 03:42:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 03:42:29 PM
Bed is OK, as long as the tether prevents dog from jumping out of bed. That's why they implemented the rule, as a couple of dogs had jumped out to their deaths...Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
My husband's company truck has a big tool box in the back and usually parts on the floor of the bed..
There's more room in the cab.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:45:14 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 03:45:14 PM
In the bed it went, and then a hose-down at the car wash for him!
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
We have a truck Ford F-250 1971 model... I absolutely HATE it. I can't WAIT until it stops blocking my driveway...Quote from: "caskur"
Restored?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:20:09 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:20:09 PM
We have a truck Ford F-250 1971 model... I absolutely HATE it. I can't WAIT until it stops blocking my driveway...Quote from: "caskur"
I briefly owned a 1978 F-250 a few years back! 2 wheel drive. 400 ci engine. 4-speed manual. Regular cab.
I was trying to rallye race the fucking thing off road, while fairly impaired! Ended up rolling it off the edge of the dirt road! Rolled one and a half times, then came to rest against a tree!
Good thing I only paid $600 for it!
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:24:14 PM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:24:14 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:25:58 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:25:58 PM
Nobody wants them, as you'll need a second mortgage just to fuel them up!
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
We have a truck Ford F-250 1971 model... I absolutely HATE it. I can't WAIT until it stops blocking my driveway...Quote from: "caskur"
Restored?
Yep... with duel wheels.... he took out the bench seat and put bucket seats in...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:30:15 PM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:30:15 PM
Old pickups like an old Ford are a dime a dozen here... Lots of them around.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Nobody wants them, as you'll need a second mortgage just to fuel them up!
Our petrol stations also sell auto LPG for conversions. It's a lot cheaper to burn LPG.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:31:48 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:31:48 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 11:33:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 11:33:19 PM
We have a truck Ford F-250 1971 model... I absolutely HATE it. I can't WAIT until it stops blocking my driveway...Quote from: "caskur"
Restored?
Yep... with duel wheels.... he took out the bench seat and put bucket seats in...
I had thought about buying an old car, maybe a Malibu or a Chevelle and fully restoring it But, I will be retired in five and a half years and living in Panama. It would be one more thing I'd have to sell.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:35:52 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:35:52 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:38:39 PM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:38:39 PM
Most do here too. Only problem with LPG is you lose a bit of power...Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
We have performance LPG mechanic shops around and some of our new cars are dedicated LPG from the manufacturer. Older conversions sometimes suffer power loss but not if done professionally.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:40:44 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:40:44 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 11:41:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2018, 11:41:54 PM
Unless you'd want to pay to have it shipped over there with you...Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Not a chance. I'll get carjacked.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:43:54 PM
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:43:54 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:47:31 PM
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:47:31 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:48:47 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:48:47 PM
He converted it to gas as well.. Just finished repainting it here.. bloody horrible car. A bogan's car/truck...lolQuote from: "caskur"
Look like it's missing a few things, like the door handle and key cylinder...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2018, 11:49:42 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2018, 11:49:42 PM
I have a GMH Malibu... I LOVE MY CAR... LOVE IT!~Quote from: "caskur"
Its a Holden.
A dinosaur.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:52:02 PM
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:52:02 PM
He converted it to gas as well.. Just finished repainting it here.. bloody horrible car. A bogan's car/truck...lolQuote from: "caskur"
Look like it's missing a few things, like the door handle and key cylinder...
It's missing NOTHING... he hadn't assembled it completely when I took the photo.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:53:23 PM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:53:23 PM
LPG will always produce less power than gasoline. It cannot be avoided.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Like i said, Australia has been using auto LPG for 4 decades and the technology has come a long way.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:55:11 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:55:11 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:58:32 PM
Post by: caskur on July 12, 2018, 11:58:32 PM
I have a GMH Malibu... I LOVE MY CAR... LOVE IT!~Quote from: "caskur"
Its a Holden.
A dinosaur.
I don't care... my Commodore lasted over 30 years.... I sold it to a guy in Bunbury... it broke my heart but Kurt didn't want to repaint it.
I'm a Holden Girl... fuck Fords... I took the blue motor out, put in a red motor... a 186... never missed a heart beat. But anyway, I have a late model Malibu and I'm happy. Our other car is a Holden 4 door crewman.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 12, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
Who said anything about the same engine?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
When people do conversions, they often don't have a larger engine installed... And if they did, that larger engine would still produce more power on gasoline.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:01:27 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:01:27 AM
Who said anything about the same engine?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
When people do conversions, they often don't have a larger engine installed...
Maybe not in Canada.
Here, people opt for bigger engines and engine mods.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 12:02:29 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 12:02:29 AM
Maybe not in Canada.
Here, people opt for bigger engines and engine mods.
If someone can afford all that, I would imagine they could also afford to keep it on gasoline...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:06:45 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:06:45 AM
Maybe not in Canada.
Here, people opt for bigger engines and engine mods.
If someone can afford all that, I would imagine they could also afford to keep it on gasoline...
Petrol is 1.55 a litre here. LPG is around .70 a litre. Big difference even with efficiency.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 12:09:47 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 12:09:47 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 12:11:21 AM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 12:11:21 AM
we're ripped off in WA... it makes my blood boil.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:17:07 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:17:07 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 12:21:52 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 12:21:52 AM
Is that a derail, corky.
Is that relevant to the discussion?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 12:24:44 AM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 12:24:44 AM
Nobody cares about WA. It's a fly past state.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You only care helping yourselves to our mining and gst revenue...
It's WA people that don't give a fuck about you whinging ES.... we voted to secede back in the 1930s...
If I could get a chainsaw and cut along the border, I would have pushed you free loaders off to float in the plastic choked Pacific Ocean decades ago. Are you feelng me Dinky Di Yankie?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:26:57 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:26:57 AM
Mmmm...I smell a derail.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is that a derail, corky.
Is that relevant to the discussion?
You'd have to refer to the person who brought up WA in the first place.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 12:28:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 12:28:41 AM
Mmmm...I smell a derail.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is that a derail, corky.
Is that relevant to the discussion?
True Bricktop.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 12:29:16 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 12:29:16 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:33:36 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:33:36 AM
Mmmm...I smell a derail.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is that a derail, corky.
Is that relevant to the discussion?
True Bricktop.
On the discussion of vehicles which led to vehicle fuels which led to fuel prices in regions, my point that nobody in Australia cares much about what people from WA pay for fuel is still relevant IMHO. We don't. WA is distant yet they're very self entitled people.
But if you decide it's not relevant enough then perhaps cut the thread where it left seatbelts in vehicles and cops?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 12:43:25 AM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 12:43:25 AM
The very metal you plonk your rear on in your car is metal mined from my state.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 02:12:11 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 02:12:11 AM
my point that nobody in Australia cares much about what people from WA pay for fuelQuote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That WASN'T your point assdrip. You're amusing the way you constantly try to throw your propensity to look like an asshole into reverse gear.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 13, 2018, 03:15:49 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 13, 2018, 03:15:49 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 03:44:13 AM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 03:44:13 AM
I have gas tonight.Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Ease up on the carrots then, bunny.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 04:34:23 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 04:34:23 AM
While it is still on the books, it is now generally ignored. And rightfully so.
Little known fact: The cops here are not permitted to initiate a pursuit and takedown if someone pedals away on their bicycle after being stopped for not wearing a helmet!
So they don't bother anymore. They received 'too many middle fingers' trying to enforce a law that was the answer to a problem that never existed in the first place!
A balance must be met with the enforcement of laws, without pissing off the general law abiding public also. They treaded too deep into 'pissing people off' with the bicycle helmet shit, that they laid off and found more serious issues to deal with.
What we expect the cops to do... Fight the serious shit. If they are hassling bicyclists for no helmet, the case for more resources and officers becomes difficult at negotiation time. "We're understaffed" becomes a difficult argument when you hassle the average person...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 04:58:42 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 04:58:42 AM
my point that nobody in Australia cares much about what people from WA pay for fuelQuote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That WASN'T your point assdrip. You're amusing the way you constantly try to throw your propensity to look like an asshole into reverse gear.
Please stop trying to wilfully derail another thread.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 05:02:02 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 05:02:02 AM
Luckily this bullshit was shot down... Interestingly enough, Poppa Trudeau was the one that ensured we could travel freely in our own country without being hassled, and Little Trudeau is the one that wanted to change that back!
I do not want us to become Australia or England. And that bill was shot down, thankfully!
If you want to stop me, there must be a reason... Reasonable cause for doing so. If I'm not acting up, you leave me the fuck alone.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 06:18:26 AM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 06:18:26 AM
And don't even get me started on Bill C-46, which would've permitted the cops to randomly stop you while driving.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Luckily this bullshit was shot down... Interestingly enough, Poppa Trudeau was the one that ensured we could travel freely in our own country without being hassled, and Little Trudeau is the one that wanted to change that back!
I do not want us to become Australia or England. And that bill was shot down, thankfully!
If you want to stop me, there must be a reason... Reasonable cause for doing so. If I'm not acting up, you leave me the fuck alone.
Checking how much tread is left on your tyres is enough to pull you over randomly.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 09:01:11 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 09:01:11 AM
And don't even get me started on Bill C-46, which would've permitted the cops to randomly stop you while driving.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Luckily this bullshit was shot down... Interestingly enough, Poppa Trudeau was the one that ensured we could travel freely in our own country without being hassled, and Little Trudeau is the one that wanted to change that back!
I do not want us to become Australia or England. And that bill was shot down, thankfully!
If you want to stop me, there must be a reason... Reasonable cause for doing so. If I'm not acting up, you leave me the fuck alone.
Checking how much tread is left on your tyres is enough to pull you over randomly.
The police do that where you live?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 09:25:20 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 09:25:20 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 09:29:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 09:29:19 AM
It's one of their bullshit legal excuses here. They have a number of them but they all involve stopping people for no crimes witnessed or suspected then proceeding to trying to find something to fine or imprison over.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Occasionally commercial vehicle enforcement will have a blitz on the side of a highway where they pull over all commercial trucks and look for something, anything to give them a fine.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 10:14:24 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 10:14:24 AM
Their excuse? It's just a 'random stop' despite them not only testing the great majority but setting up plate and sometimes facial recognition readers to look for possible persons or vehicles of interest.
Once they stop you for the tests it's not uncommon for them to peruse the condition of your tyres, sound of your exhaust, pitch of your window tint, number of differently painted panels on your bodywork whether custom or just practical, contents of your cab should there be a menacing foil wrapper on the floor or a tyre change implement not returned immediately to the manufacturer's designated position, any stone chips or cracks on your windscreen, or any suspected motor modifications they suggest could exist, and then there's the human interaction part of their 'random' stop. If you so much as stand up for yourself on any suggestion of impropriety or suspicion, that's suspicious and therefore warrants extreme vetting measures where you're told to vacate your vehicle for a full search of at least your vehicle if not your vehicle and person.
To refuse an order whether legitimately issued or not runs the risk of incarceration. Anything discovered during the course of a legitimate or illegitimate stop and search is still admissible in court against you. You have no right to silence unless you request a solicitor and they aren't yet present for the interrogation.
Then there are the intricate and mostly unknown legal excuses for a non random stop. Unless you're well versed in protocols, which most of us aren't here, few ask whether a purported high risk zone that a constable sights as a reason for a non random stop is in fact published in the obscure public record they keep on the down low as per the rules. Which still doesn't guarantee you a rock solid legal basis to sue back because every officer may randomly assign a high risk value to a location due to their opinion and not the actual regularity of events in that location as per statistics which they are required to follow.
There is so much more than what I've mentioned but the long and short of it is that cops, at least in my State while being mostly unbothered and unfussed with using their unbalanced powers can and occasionally do use them.
It can be a nasty and vindictive place to be should you assert any of your civil liberties.
It's why I have an 8 camera and 2 mic surveillance system in my vehicle and I make sure to stay below their radars doing their unethical stops.
One of these decades, Australians will have had enough of the bullying and it will be refreshing to see constables shitting their pants.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 10:15:56 AM
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 10:15:56 AM
At least the cops here stopped hassling people for not wearing a helmet while bicycling. THAT was the dumbest law to implement, ever.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
I agree, stupid law. If you WANT to wear one, then wear one, if not, dont, should be that simple. I never wore a helmet as a kid on a bike, and I turned out fine
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 10:19:58 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 10:19:58 AM
At least the cops here stopped hassling people for not wearing a helmet while bicycling. THAT was the dumbest law to implement, ever.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
I agree, stupid law. If you WANT to wear one, then wear one, if not, dont, should be that simple. I never wore a helmet as a kid on a bike, and I turned out fine:laugh:
It's illegal here to ride a bicycle without a helmet, walk multiple abreast together as a group, or skateboard after having a few beers.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 11:36:48 AM
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 11:36:48 AM
At least the cops here stopped hassling people for not wearing a helmet while bicycling. THAT was the dumbest law to implement, ever.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
I agree, stupid law. If you WANT to wear one, then wear one, if not, dont, should be that simple. I never wore a helmet as a kid on a bike, and I turned out fine:laugh:
It's illegal here to ride a bicycle without a helmet,walk multiple abreast together as a group, or skateboard after having a few beers.
Also illegal here to ride a lawnmower after a few beers.
Btw, cops here like to profile as well. I cant count the times I was pulled over over bullshit nit picky things, just so they could search my vehicle. The last time I had enough, and asked if I was being profiled, because it wasnt the first time I've been searched. They let me go.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 11:46:34 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 11:46:34 AM
At least the cops here stopped hassling people for not wearing a helmet while bicycling. THAT was the dumbest law to implement, ever.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
I agree, stupid law. If you WANT to wear one, then wear one, if not, dont, should be that simple. I never wore a helmet as a kid on a bike, and I turned out fine:laugh:
It's illegal here to ride a bicycle without a helmet,walk multiple abreast together as a group, or skateboard after having a few beers.
:2r4ml1j_th:
Also illegal here to ride a lawnmower after a few beers.
Btw, cops here like to profile as well. I cant count the times I was pulled over over bullshit nit picky things, just so they could search my vehicle. The last time I had enough, and asked if I was being profiled, because it wasnt the first time I've been searched. They let me go.
I was distantly tailed in the middle of nowhere for like 20 k's once from one bush town to nearly another. Had it on cruise control and my vehicle was clean in appearance. After getting nearly rammed up the bum by this prick I finally had enough and signaled and came to a very abrupt stop in the bulldust along the side of the road. Whipped my licence out in my hand outside the window with the other on the wheel.
The prick was astonished. I told him to get it the hell over with and that I didn't appreciate being harassed for over 10 minutes. Run my licence, search my car, do whatever bullshit thing he wanted to do but never ever crawl up my arse like that again or I would depress the brakes and he would have a smashed front end and he'd be at fault for tailgating.
He came back visibly shaken. Apologized profusely. Let me on my way.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 11:54:07 AM
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 11:54:07 AM
I was distantly tailed in the middle of nowhere for like 20 k's once from one bush town to nearly another. Had it on cruise control and my vehicle was clean in appearance. After getting nearly rammed up the bum by this prick I finally had enough and signaled and came to a very abrupt stop in the bulldust along the side of the road. Whipped my licence out in my hand outside the window with the other on the wheel.
The prick was astonished. I told him to get it the hell over with and that I didn't appreciate being harassed for over 10 minutes. Run my licence, search my car, do whatever bullshit thing he wanted to do but never ever crawl up my arse like that again or I would depress the brakes and he would have a smashed front end and he'd be at fault for tailgating.
He came back visibly shaken. Apologized profusely. Let me on my way.
Ha! Good for you!
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:03:22 PM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2018, 12:03:22 PM
I was distantly tailed in the middle of nowhere for like 20 k's once from one bush town to nearly another. Had it on cruise control and my vehicle was clean in appearance. After getting nearly rammed up the bum by this prick I finally had enough and signaled and came to a very abrupt stop in the bulldust along the side of the road. Whipped my licence out in my hand outside the window with the other on the wheel.
The prick was astonished. I told him to get it the hell over with and that I didn't appreciate being harassed for over 10 minutes. Run my licence, search my car, do whatever bullshit thing he wanted to do but never ever crawl up my arse like that again or I would depress the brakes and he would have a smashed front end and he'd be at fault for tailgating.
He came back visibly shaken. Apologized profusely. Let me on my way.
Ha! Good for you!:thumbup:
I think when he realized I was related to a few well respected community and church leaders who had served in local politics for that Shire, his world came crashing down before his eyes and he couldn't wait to make amends lest the small towns in that area decided to have him replaced.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 01:13:02 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 13, 2018, 01:13:02 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 02:08:54 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 02:08:54 PM
I was fuming because this was just after I lost 1/4 of a mil in a house fire less than a month earlier. I know they pulled me over thinking I was the abos... there were only two of us that had white Commodores in my suburbs,... me...And the abos.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 02:22:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 02:22:47 PM
I got pulled over in my suburb on my way to go to K-Mart for a new tyre... I had a flat so my "spare" tyre was on.... they checked over my car and gave me a $25 fine because my spare was bald they reckoned.... I said it's a SPARE tyre... they said it had to be perfect too...Quote from: "caskur"
I was fuming because this was just after I lost 1/4 of a mil in a house fire less than a month earlier. I know they pulled me over thinking I was the abos... there were only two of us that had white Commodores in my suburbs,... me...And the abos.:negative:
Is it common for police to pull over cars driving on spare tires?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 02:31:01 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 02:31:01 PM
They could see my good tyre sitting in the back of the station wagon...on it's way to get repaired.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 02:34:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 02:34:53 PM
It was just a random pull over... But very peculiar if you ask me.Quote from: "caskur"
Do they have ticket quotas?
Some police forces here do and that's why they act peculiar at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
It was just a random pull over... But very peculiar if you ask me.Quote from: "caskur"
Do they have ticket quotas?
Some police forces here do and that's why they act peculiar at the end of the month.
We had two problem families that required police to patrol my suburb on horseback in the late nineties. It's a long story but the police seem more scarce these days.
They didn't even come around when the crewman got stolen... police these days don't appear to be, lets say, as hard working as they once were.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 02:53:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 02:53:10 PM
But, other than parades I don't see police on horseback in my city.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
Our police have quotas to meet too here.
We also have horse back officers, but are rarely seen. We have 'em on bicycles too.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 05:32:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 05:32:02 PM
Thats messed up Caskur.Quote from: "Blazor"
Our police have quotas to meet too here.
We also have horse back officers, but are rarely seen. We have 'em on bicycles too.
It is messed up.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 05:45:33 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 05:45:33 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
In another state in Australia, (Victoria) the police got caught faking up 250,000 (or 500,000, I forget which) breathe tests so they could meet quotas.Quote from: "caskur"http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-30/victoria-police-record-fake-roadside-breath-tests/9817846
That is sickening. They should be fired.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 06:11:07 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 06:11:07 PM
I'm ashamed of where my continent went. Seriously.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
At least the cops here stopped hassling people for not wearing a helmet while bicycling. THAT was the dumbest law to implement, ever.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
I agree, stupid law. If you WANT to wear one, then wear one, if not, dont, should be that simple. I never wore a helmet as a kid on a bike, and I turned out fine:laugh:
It's illegal here to ride a bicycle without a helmet,walk multiple abreast together as a group, or skateboard after having a few beers.
:2r4ml1j_th:
Also illegal here to ride a lawnmower after a few beers.
Btw, cops here like to profile as well. I cant count the times I was pulled over over bullshit nit picky things, just so they could search my vehicle. The last time I had enough, and asked if I was being profiled, because it wasnt the first time I've been searched. They let me go.
I was distantly tailed in the middle of nowhere for like 20 k's once from one bush town to nearly another. Had it on cruise control and my vehicle was clean in appearance. After getting nearly rammed up the bum by this prick I finally had enough and signaled and came to a very abrupt stop in the bulldust along the side of the road. Whipped my licence out in my hand outside the window with the other on the wheel.
The prick was astonished. I told him to get it the hell over with and that I didn't appreciate being harassed for over 10 minutes. Run my licence, search my car, do whatever bullshit thing he wanted to do but never ever crawl up my arse like that again or I would depress the brakes and he would have a smashed front end and he'd be at fault for tailgating.
He came back visibly shaken. Apologized profusely. Let me on my way.
...and then you woke up.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:24:18 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:24:18 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:27:54 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:27:54 PM
I want to go for a Saturday drive damnit!~
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 08:30:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 08:30:28 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:39:03 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:39:03 PM
I got done on my 21 st birthday... I was turning right off Carrington Street, into South Street, (meanwhile a new "no right turn" light had gone up). This confused my little 21 year old bird brain and I thought, "there are no cars except me, I'm turning." Well, I turned straight into a coppa... lol He was already writing the ticket and when I said it was my 21 st Birthday, he stopped midway, but it was too late, he had already started the ticket and had to go through with it and I got done.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 08:44:08 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 08:44:08 PM
I must say I find Freud's imagined anecdotes far more entertaining, though.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:47:54 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 08:47:54 PM
That was more entertaining... Oh well, I'll let boring cat fishing Freud entertain you then.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 08:55:43 PM
Post by: Blazor on July 13, 2018, 08:55:43 PM
"did you have an argument with the Mrs this morning?"Quote from: "caskur"
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 11:07:24 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2018, 11:07:24 PM
Oh I thought you'd like to hear my first and only speeding ticket when I was 19, driving my super cool Austin Lancer 1959 model....Quote from: "caskur"
That was more entertaining... Oh well, I'll let boring cat fishing Freud entertain you then.
Well, others may be more engaged.
Having dished out thousands of fines during my time, the subject is rather mundane to me.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 11:31:33 PM
Post by: caskur on July 13, 2018, 11:31:33 PM
Actually, you should be writing a little paperback and call it, 'the life and times of an Ozzie traffic cop,' or something like that. How many stories have you got stashed away in the recesses of your mind?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 12:04:34 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 12:04:34 AM
Now, when I was in the Vice Squad, those tales would make good reading...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2018, 12:50:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2018, 12:50:07 AM
I was never a "traffic" cop. All uniformed cops are expected to monitor traffic for violations. Traffic cops are just dedicated to that one area, so they also deal with accidents, traffic blockages, truckers and speed detection equipment.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Now, when I was in the Vice Squad, those tales would make good reading...
In Canada, traffic cops are not actually police officers. They are peace officers. The same as federal prison guards or CBSA agents.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 12:55:18 AM
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 12:55:18 AM
I was never a "traffic" cop. All uniformed cops are expected to monitor traffic for violations. Traffic cops are just dedicated to that one area, so they also deal with accidents, traffic blockages, truckers and speed detection equipment.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Now, when I was in the Vice Squad, those tales would make good reading...
On that tree group I have a retired Federal cop...
The police used to hassle my husband Kurt to join so eventually he went to Perth Headquarters and the policeman asked Kurt's age, he said 33, the cop said too old (cut off at that time was 32) and then on seconds thoughts suggested the Feds which meant Kurt would go away a lot. Feds cut off was 34.
Now there is no age discrimination.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 01:54:52 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 01:54:52 AM
In Canada, traffic cops are not actually police officers. They are peace officers. The same as federal prison guards or CBSA agents.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Not true at all. Remember that the Provinces themselves have some control over how they handle policing duties.
In BC, we have the 'Integrated Road Safety Unit' to do traffic duties. These officers are a combination of RCMP officers, and also municipal police officers. These are 'full fledged' cops, although their work is dedicated to mainly traffic duties.
I'll tell you another difference... BC Sheriff Services (prisoner transport/court security, etc), can NOT issue Motor Vehicle Act infraction tickets, whereas Alberta Sheriffs Branch CAN issue MVA tickets, yet they both are armed Peace Officers.
We have BCCVSE for trucks. They are NOT armed, but CAN issue tickets to anyone.
There are many differences from Province to Province.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 02:39:27 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 02:39:27 AM
I was never a "traffic" cop. All uniformed cops are expected to monitor traffic for violations. Traffic cops are just dedicated to that one area, so they also deal with accidents, traffic blockages, truckers and speed detection equipment.Quote from: "Bricktop"
When my stepfather joined the force, he essentially frowned upon having to issue MVA tickets, as that's what he didn't enter policing for. They actually forced him to go out and write at least one MVA ticket. So he did. A quick walk from the detachment, he found an 'unsecured vehicle.' Window down, and keys in the car. Here, it is a violation to leave an unattended vehicle unlocked with the keys in it.
Owner of the car contested ticket, and won in court. Turns out the car didn't have a battery, so there was no way it could have been started. Ticket ruled null and void.
That was his first and last MVA ticket ever issued. He thought of most dedicated traffic cops as 'dough heads' that have at times done more damage than good... As he quickly moved up the ranks, he saw the damage these dough heads did when he was an investigator. Not uncommon for him to hear comments from potential witnesses like, "One of you assholes gave me a fine for going 5 over, and now you want my help? Get lost!"
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2018, 03:48:36 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2018, 03:48:36 AM
At least the cops here stopped hassling people for not wearing a helmet while bicycling. THAT was the dumbest law to implement, ever.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
I agree, stupid law. If you WANT to wear one, then wear one, if not, dont, should be that simple. I never wore a helmet as a kid on a bike, and I turned out fine:laugh:
It's illegal here to ride a bicycle without a helmet,walk multiple abreast together as a group, or skateboard after having a few beers.
:2r4ml1j_th:
Also illegal here to ride a lawnmower after a few beers.
Btw, cops here like to profile as well. I cant count the times I was pulled over over bullshit nit picky things, just so they could search my vehicle. The last time I had enough, and asked if I was being profiled, because it wasnt the first time I've been searched. They let me go.
I was distantly tailed in the middle of nowhere for like 20 k's once from one bush town to nearly another. Had it on cruise control and my vehicle was clean in appearance. After getting nearly rammed up the bum by this prick I finally had enough and signaled and came to a very abrupt stop in the bulldust along the side of the road. Whipped my licence out in my hand outside the window with the other on the wheel.
The prick was astonished. I told him to get it the hell over with and that I didn't appreciate being harassed for over 10 minutes. Run my licence, search my car, do whatever bullshit thing he wanted to do but never ever crawl up my arse like that again or I would depress the brakes and he would have a smashed front end and he'd be at fault for tailgating.
He came back visibly shaken. Apologized profusely. Let me on my way.
ac_lmfao
...and then you woke up.
Actually a true story whether you contest it or not.
Here's another one:
In my Uni days I lived with 2 students and the older boyfriend of one of them who had just bought the house. He was a bit rough around the edges but a top bloke who grew up in the area and knew most of the cops including some in Vice since he either went to school with them and or partied with them.
Anyway, he liked his nightly bud and had a couple of massive potted plants going at any one time for personal consumption.
At some point he had a falling out with one member of his family and they thought nobody would know if they dobbed him in for weed and he got busted. Unfortunately for them, the planned bust date and time rolled across the desk of his good Vice mate and he got a phone call early in the morning with a clear warning. The cops would be showing up at an exact time in a coordinated swoop from different angles and to have those plants off the premises when they did.
Being a Tradie and always working at distant work sites, there was no way he could get home fast enough to do it himself so he called his gf, and the three us struggled to lift these things into the back seat of an XD Falcon but finally managed. She drove off and stayed away for an hour. They came through the house and were gone in under 5 minutes.
The BF got a call a couple hours later from the same contact with instructions to drop off three slabs of a particular beer to the local cop shop with a name and that was it. The whole thing was settled.
Many months later we had a huge house party and a few of those cops including the Vice guy were there with their wives and drinking like fishes and smoking like a bush fire.
But you can again suggest it never happened if it makes you sleep better.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 03:57:45 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 03:57:45 AM
Many months later we had a huge house party and a few of those cops including the Vice guy were there with their wives and drinking like fishes and smoking like a bush fire.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"ac_lmfao
Nice! Why not just do like they do here though, and apply to build the bar right into the police detachment! I have no idea if their request was actually approved, but it probably was!
New Mountie headquarters in Guildford will feature a bar. RCMP's E-Division has applied for a liquor licence for its new facility in Green Timbers Urban Forest.Quote
The Green Timbers mess hall will seat 500, and according to the application, will be allowed to operate from 11 a.m. to midnight daily, and until 2 a.m. Friday and Saturday.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 06:16:45 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 06:16:45 AM
But you can again suggest it never happened if it makes you sleep better.
I suggest it never happened because you are an inveterate liar, and Vice did not do drug raids.
That was the Drug Squad. And they never rang ahead. Ever.
Just more Freud bullshit.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2018, 06:45:48 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2018, 06:45:48 AM
But you can again suggest it never happened if it makes you sleep better.
I suggest it never happened because you are an inveterate liar, and Vice did not do drug raids.
That was the Drug Squad. And they never rang ahead. Ever.
Just more Freud bullshit.
You keep crying about your Freud but that doesn't change the experiences I've described for ME.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
I was never a "traffic" cop. All uniformed cops are expected to monitor traffic for violations. Traffic cops are just dedicated to that one area, so they also deal with accidents, traffic blockages, truckers and speed detection equipment.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Now, when I was in the Vice Squad, those tales would make good reading...
In Canada, traffic cops are not actually police officers. They are peace officers. The same as federal prison guards or CBSA agents.
That's true, the Alberta Sheriffs are not police officers.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 05:41:26 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 05:41:26 PM
That's true, the Alberta Sheriffs are not police officers.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Actually, it not true. I explained this already in a post above. Different Provinces do things differently in this regard.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 06:11:13 PM
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 06:11:13 PM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:20:50 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:20:50 PM
Do Sheriffs carry guns?Quote from: "caskur"
They are armed in BC and Alberta, and I would assume they are armed in other Provinces also...
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
Do Sheriffs carry guns?Quote from: "caskur"
They are armed in BC and Alberta, and I would assume they are armed in other Provinces also...
Then they are cops. I can't see the difference. Am I not seeing something?
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:35:18 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:35:18 PM
Then they are cops. I can't see the difference. Am I not seeing something?Quote from: "caskur"
Sheriffs aren't true 'cops' per se, as they do not have full policing powers. I've already explained this in this thread.
For instance, in BC a Sheriff can NOT issue a traffic ticket, while in Alberta they can.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Canada Border Services Agency
Competition Bureau
Correctional Service of Canada
Environment Canada Environmental and Wildlife Enforcement Officers
Fisheries and Oceans Canada Fishery Officers
Health Canada Compliance and Enforcement Officers
Parks Canada Park Wardens
National Battlefields Commission Battlefields Park Police
Canada Post Postal Inspectors
Canadian Food Inspection Agency Inspectors and Investigators
Parliamentary Protective Service
National Capital Commission Conservation Officers
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Abbotsford Police Department
British Columbia Commercial Vehicle Safety and Enforcement
British Columbia Conservation Officer Service
British Columbia Correctional Services
British Columbia Gaming Policy and Enforcement
British Columbia Liquor Inspectors
British Columbia Natural Resources Officers
British Columbia Park Rangers
British Columbia Sheriff Service
British Columbia Special Provincial Constables - Provincial Fraud Investigators
Central Saanich Police Service
Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit of British Columbia
Delta Police Department
South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Police Service
Metro Vancouver Regional Parks
Nelson Police Department
New Westminster Police Service
Oak Bay Police Department
Port Moody Police Department
Saanich Police Department
Vancouver Police Department
Victoria Police Department
West Vancouver Police Department
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 07:46:11 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 07:46:11 PM
But you can again suggest it never happened if it makes you sleep better.
I suggest it never happened because you are an inveterate liar, and Vice did not do drug raids.
That was the Drug Squad. And they never rang ahead. Ever.
Just more Freud bullshit.
You keep crying about your Freud but that doesn't change the experiences I've described for ME.ac_smile
Nothing can change imaginary experiences, Aaron, except the realisation that you're a few spanners short in the toolbox.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2018, 12:43:00 AM
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2018, 12:43:00 AM
But you can again suggest it never happened if it makes you sleep better.
I suggest it never happened because you are an inveterate liar, and Vice did not do drug raids.
That was the Drug Squad. And they never rang ahead. Ever.
Just more Freud bullshit.
You keep crying about your Freud but that doesn't change the experiences I've described for ME.ac_smile
Nothing can change imaginary experiences, Aaron, except the realisation that you're a few spanners short in the toolbox.
Says the geriatric old paranoid delusional guy who has demanded I give him a reason to wank in Skype or he'll proclaim me a man.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 12:48:25 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 12:48:25 AM
You on the other hand are right by my side, every time I post.
Good boy.
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2018, 01:00:14 AM
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2018, 01:00:14 AM
Title: Re: Seatbelts, Commercial Vehicles, and Cops...
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 01:22:35 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 01:22:35 AM
