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Title: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 06:58:59 PM
Ice Ice Baby just played on Jack FM, so I decided to bust out some Vanilla Ice type moves and dance along with the track, which aren't even particularly demanding moves, and I'm kinda winded now!



Damn you Robert Van Winkle...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
What you need is some form of social interaction...a friend, perhaps. Maybe two.



Then perhaps you would stop creating inane threads about the minutae of your miserable life that none of us give two bowel movements about.



An internet forum is no substitute for a lonely life. Get out, meet people, stop hating yourself and then you can start liking others.



Your thread bombing reflects a pathetic life.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 14, 2018, 09:05:47 PM
Shut your pie hole, faggot, and stop derailing my thread with your juvenile wanna-be tough-guy shtick that grew old years ago.







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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
Mel...we BOTH know that isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 14, 2018, 10:10:31 PM
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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2018, 10:11:51 PM
Why are you so preoccupied with male genitals?
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 14, 2018, 10:15:30 PM
Maybe of Mel stopped drinking and smoking...and started working out...the blood might flow to his dick allowing him to have a possible life.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Angry White Male on July 14, 2018, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Mel...we BOTH know that isn't going to happen.

Of course I know that.  I know who the special posters are here that get 24/7, ultra-fast thread protection from Fash in every imaginable form, and I ain't one of them!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Angry White Male on July 14, 2018, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Maybe of Mel stopped drinking and smoking...and started working out...the blood might flow to his dick allowing him to have a possible life.

Don't know how this turned into talk of dick, but working out is something that I should do a bit more of...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Angry White Male on July 14, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
Oh well, gotta run for a couple of hours.  Want to glue the shift-sequence cap back onto the top of the Kenworth shifter now that it's sitting idle for the weekend.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2018, 11:54:37 PM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Maybe of Mel stopped drinking and smoking...and started working out...the blood might flow to his dick allowing him to have a possible life.

Don't know how this turned into talk of dick, but working out is something that I should do a bit more of...




Invest in a treadmill.





Vacuum more...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 12:37:29 AM
His entire life is a treadmill.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 01:14:20 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Invest in a treadmill.

Vacuum more...

There's a community center very close that has all that shit, and the fee isn't very much at all.  Checked it out once.  Problem is, places like that are always so busy, unless you go at weird times...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 15, 2018, 02:08:29 AM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "caskur"
Invest in a treadmill.

Vacuum more...

There's a community center very close that has all that shit, and the fee isn't very much at all.  Checked it out once.  Problem is, places like that are always so busy, unless you go at weird times...


Wear your wife beater and go strut your stuff...breathe your smelly smokers breath everywhere...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 02:10:08 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Wear your wife beater and go strut your stuff...breathe your smelly smokers breath everywhere...

I do that anyhow.  Why wouldn't I do that there also?
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 15, 2018, 03:01:12 AM
That's so sexy Chuck!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"That's so sexy Chuck!

I pick the one with extra-yellow sweat stains for outings like that!



OH YEAH!







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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 15, 2018, 03:56:22 AM
I believe it!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 04:03:31 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I believe it!

And this is what you get...



OH YEAH!









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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 15, 2018, 04:48:45 AM
I can see you in that blonde mullet
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 04:54:32 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I can see you in that blonde mullet

It was only last year that I had my barber cut the free-flowing fine blonde mullet off...



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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 15, 2018, 04:57:40 AM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I can see you in that blonde mullet

It was only last year that I had my barber cut the free-flowing fine blonde mullet off...



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This is you last year eh?
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 05:02:23 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"This is you last year eh?






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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 11:39:33 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"What you need is some form of social interaction...a friend, perhaps. Maybe two.



Then perhaps you would stop creating inane threads about the minutae of your miserable life that none of us give two bowel movements about.



An internet forum is no substitute for a lonely life. Get out, meet people, stop hating yourself and then you can start liking others.



Your thread bombing reflects a pathetic life.

BULLSEYE!!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"Ice Ice Baby just played on Jack FM, so I decided to bust out some Vanilla Ice type moves and dance along with the track, which aren't even particularly demanding moves, and I'm kinda winded now!



Damn you Robert Van Winkle...

What do you do in your spare time besides drink to excess and talk about yourself on forums?
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"What do you do in your spare time besides drink to excess and talk about yourself on forums?

I tell faggots like you that think they're witty, but aren't, to go fuck themselves!



OH YEAH!





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Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 03:16:23 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"BULLSEYE!!

Eat my superior white cock, Gook!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"What do you do in your spare time besides drink to excess and talk about yourself on forums?

I tell faggots like you that think they're witty, but aren't, to go fuck themselves!

In other words nothing. Just as I thought. What a waste of a life.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In other words nothing. Just as I thought. What a waste of a life.

So you posting here is OK, but myself posting here is a 'waste of life?'



Fuck outta my thread, idiot!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 03:43:12 PM
Oh the irony of some of the posters here...  Using the exact same forum I'm posting at to tell me I should 'go out get a real life!'    :laugh:



Idiots.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 04:08:02 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In other words nothing. Just as I thought. What a waste of a life.

So you posting here is OK, but myself posting here is a 'waste of life?'



Fuck outta my thread, idiot!

I asked you a question you didn't like that's all.



My life doesn't revolve around alcohol and self aggrandizement on forums. I mean I used to waste my time like you do, but I decided many years ago to start living life. You have yet to make that decision and you might not make it either. Don't blame us because your life is so damned boring.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 04:22:53 PM
Don't even try the 'holier than thou' shit with me, you idiot.  And stop the fucking preaching about booze.  Yeah, we all know you're a fucking pisstank that couldn't handle your fucking booze.  Don't worry about what others do, nor how they decide to live their lives.  Perhaps you should lead by example, and just stop posting here.  Show us all how to not waste away our lives.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In other words nothing. Just as I thought. What a waste of a life.

So you posting here is OK, but myself posting here is a 'waste of life?'



Fuck outta my thread, idiot!

I asked you a question you didn't like that's all.



My life doesn't revolve around alcohol and self aggrandizement on forums. I mean I used to waste my time like you do, but I decided many years ago to start living life. You have yet to make that decision and you might not make it either. Don't blame us because your life is so damned boring.

I believe Mel wants to start living a healthier, more fulfilling life, but he doesn't know how to start..



Which is why he posts threads like this one.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 04:43:20 PM
One simple fucking thread, and half the forum has to jump up and down like fucking chimps.



I DO have more time to post than most, because I don't have a wife nor kids.  I DO have more time, because condo living means I don't have to do much maintenance here at all.  I DO have more time to post, since it's not uncommon for my job to sit me for an hour while I twiddle my thumbs and wait for the street to get dug up.



Not to mention it's over 30 degrees out right now, and I really hate the fucking heat.  Would rather spend the better part of the day in my A/C'd condo, then sweating my fucking balls off wandering around aimlessly outside.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 04:47:26 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I believe Mel wants to start living a healthier, more fulfilling life, but he doesn't know how to start..

Which is why he posts threads like this one.

Essentially it was just pointing out how I noticed myself becoming winded quicker than I'd expected from doing a simple, comical dance routine!  I'm sure it's a combination of age, along with a lack of physical exercise routine.  My job is not very physical (unless you're shoveling out clay that won't dump outta the box...  Talk about going from Zero to Heart Attack pretty fast! :laugh: )
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"One simple fucking thread, and half the forum has to jump up and down like fucking chimps.

===


Nicely put...I detest when that happens to me.   ac_lmfao  ac_lmfao  ac_lmfao
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"In other words nothing. Just as I thought. What a waste of a life.

So you posting here is OK, but myself posting here is a 'waste of life?'



Fuck outta my thread, idiot!




Nope... with you it's possible you're stuck and lack enthusiasm.





I say this because at the moment in extreme weather be that heat or cold, it's hard to muster enthusiasm to do anything different.





If I really had guts, I'd go bathe, pack a swag, fill up the petrol tank and ride off into the outback and run straight into an experience. Instead, I sit here watching you fight and me trying to figure out world problems.





Half of me wants my husband to hurry up and retire (just in case I get a flat tyre, I need a tyre fixer upperer) and the other half thinks a reduced income is not for us so I make him stay at work. I feel like saying to him, don't go to work today, lets escape.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 04:54:52 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Nope... with you it's possible you're stuck and lack enthusiasm.

I say this because at the moment in extreme weather be that heat or cold, it's hard to muster enthusiasm to do anything different.

If I really had guts, I'd go bathe, pack a swag, fill up the petrol tank and ride off into the outback and run straight into an experience. Instead, I sit here watching you fight and me trying to figure out world problems.

Half of me wants my husband to hurry up and retire (just in case I get a flat tyre, I need a tyre fixer upperer) and the other half thinks a reduced income is not for us so I make him stay at work.

I can state this...  When my wife was around, I found it much easier to find the motivation to do more things.  Being single just doesn't give me the same drive or purpose to 'get out and do things.'



Even things like wandering around the malls...  With her I could spend half the day doing this.  Now, I'd probably be 'some creepy dude creeping around the mall alone! :laugh: '
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "caskur"
Nope... with you it's possible you're stuck and lack enthusiasm.

I say this because at the moment in extreme weather be that heat or cold, it's hard to muster enthusiasm to do anything different.

If I really had guts, I'd go bathe, pack a swag, fill up the petrol tank and ride off into the outback and run straight into an experience. Instead, I sit here watching you fight and me trying to figure out world problems.

Half of me wants my husband to hurry up and retire (just in case I get a flat tyre, I need a tyre fixer upperer) and the other half thinks a reduced income is not for us so I make him stay at work.

I can state this...  When my wife was around, I found it much easier to find the motivation to do more things.  Being single just doesn't give me the same drive or purpose to 'get out and do things.'



Even things like wandering around the malls...  With her I could spend half the day doing this.  Now, I'd probably be 'some creepy dude creeping around the mall alone! :laugh: '




Yep.



In Australia, they have groups, called "get a life,"... I've heard about them but don't know too much other than a bunch of random strangers meet once a week or fortnight or something where they'll do dinner or movies, or some type of outting together... I like that idea.





We've really isolated ourselves these days because of the viciousness of the public. It's like someone left the doors open and zoo animals escaped.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Yep.

In Australia, they have groups, called "get a life,"... I've heard about them but don't know too much other than a bunch of random strangers meet once a week or fortnight or something where they'll do dinner or movies, or some type of outting together... I like that idea.

We've really isolated ourselves these days because of the viciousness of the public. It's like someone left the doors open and zoo animals escaped.

They have something similar here too, called 'events and adventures.'  Don't know much about the clientele they attract though...



I've noticed society itself getting colder and more isolated, especially in big cities like here.  It's nothing but a big fucking rat race, with people neither having the time, nor desire, to really interact much.  Smaller towns don't seem to be as bad in this regard.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "caskur"Yep.

In Australia, they have groups, called "get a life,"... I've heard about them but don't know too much other than a bunch of random strangers meet once a week or fortnight or something where they'll do dinner or movies, or some type of outting together... I like that idea.

We've really isolated ourselves these days because of the viciousness of the public. It's like someone left the doors open and zoo animals escaped.

They have something similar here too, called 'events and adventures.'  Don't know much about the clientele they attract though...



I've noticed society itself getting colder and more isolated, especially in big cities like here.  It's nothing but a big fucking rat race, with people neither having the time, nor desire, to really interact much.  Smaller towns don't seem to be as bad in this regard.


Yes, cities are rat races.



One of my brothers lives in a coastal town north of me... they have 1 stop sign and no sets of lights. When he comes down to Perth, the traffic drives him nuts.





I want to retire to a coastal town. If I won lotto, I'd have two places, the house I live in now and a shack on the coast I could escape to sometimes.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "caskur"
Nope... with you it's possible you're stuck and lack enthusiasm.

I say this because at the moment in extreme weather be that heat or cold, it's hard to muster enthusiasm to do anything different.

If I really had guts, I'd go bathe, pack a swag, fill up the petrol tank and ride off into the outback and run straight into an experience. Instead, I sit here watching you fight and me trying to figure out world problems.

Half of me wants my husband to hurry up and retire (just in case I get a flat tyre, I need a tyre fixer upperer) and the other half thinks a reduced income is not for us so I make him stay at work.

I can state this...  When my wife was around, I found it much easier to find the motivation to do more things.  Being single just doesn't give me the same drive or purpose to 'get out and do things.'



Even things like wandering around the malls...  With her I could spend half the day doing this.  Now, I'd probably be 'some creepy dude creeping around the mall alone! :laugh: '

I understand you are having trouble getting motivated..



Perhaps a good two week trip some place you've always wanted to visit..



That could lead to new hobbies, interests and friends..



You have the money, and you are single....nothing is holding you back.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 05:32:39 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Yes, cities are rat races.

One of my brothers lives in a coastal town north of me... they have 1 stop sign and no sets of lights. When he comes down to Perth, the traffic drives him nuts.

I want to retire to a coastal town. If I won lotto, I'd have two places, the house I live in now and a shack on the coast I could escape to sometimes.

Most people it seems want to get out of the big cities these days, except for new immigrants...  They love the big cities.



Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have a SubWay or grocery store within walking distance, but every day you can feel the 'quality of life' slipping lower and lower.  Spending half the day just fighting traffic is NOT fun.



I think most people stay due to work, or perhaps they have family close by.  Nevertheless, that's my retirement dream also...  Upon retirement, if not sooner, I'm getting the fuck outta here!  A little piece of land in a quiet town is just what the Doctor ordered.  I'd even be happy living in a double-wide, as long as I had some space, and peace and quiet!



If it was close to some Crown land, that would even be better.  Nothing better than riding a dirtbike or a quad in the bush, with a backpack full of brews!  I could enjoy doing that until the day I die, or are too old and crippled to ride!  In that case, just throw me in the old folks home where I stare out the window every day, sitting in my shitty diapers!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I understand you are having trouble getting motivated..

Perhaps a good two week trip some place you've always wanted to visit..

That could lead to new hobbies, interests and friends..

You have the money, and you are single....nothing is holding you back.

I have a couple of trips I'd like to make (one to Hawaii, as I've never been, and one a two week road trip into California and Nevada).  Work seems to get in the way, even though nothing stops me from just parking the truck.



Again, I'd still rather do trips like this with a significant other though...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 05:42:08 PM
That's why I want to keep the house I live in. We built it and if I gave it up, I'd never be able to afford to buy back in my suburb.



I think a lot of us just need a decent break from routine for starters.



I want to go to the outback and take photographs of old dwellings against sunset backdrops and stuff.



The only thing that scares me is there are just as many nuts in the outback... slit your throat and throw you down a mine shaft.



Apparently there are 9 missing persons in the outback of WA... It'd be just my luck to bump into a serial killer. Maybe its better to travel with a convoy.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: "caskur"The only thing that scares me is there are just as many nuts in the outback... slit your throat and throw you down a mine shaft.

Apparently there are 9 missing persons in the outback of WA... It'd be just my luck to bump into a serial killer. Maybe its better to travel with a convoy.


Oh man, is it that bad there?  Here, we can arm ourselves with rifles (or shotguns) in the bush, but I know Australian law is pretty rigid with firearms...



At least carry a very large, very sharp blade with you, laws be damned!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 05:53:25 PM
Yep.. it is bad because we've been swamped with meth and other drugs.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I understand you are having trouble getting motivated..

Perhaps a good two week trip some place you've always wanted to visit..

That could lead to new hobbies, interests and friends..

You have the money, and you are single....nothing is holding you back.

I have a couple of trips I'd like to make (one to Hawaii, as I've never been, and one a two week road trip into California and Nevada).  Work seems to get in the way, even though nothing stops me from just parking the truck.



Again, I'd still rather do trips like this with a significant other though...

If you keep waiting for a significant other, you might never take a trip..



You should just go, it will give something to talk about if you meet a nice lady when you get back.
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Yep.. it is bad because we've been swamped with meth and other drugs.

You'd better arm yourself with something then if those twitchy, shady fuckers are around!



They can become unpredictable, fast!
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"If you keep waiting for a significant other, you might never take a trip..

You should just go, it will give something to talk about if you meet a nice lady when you get back.

Hawaii is probably one trip that I should make.  Never been, direct flight is easy from here, it's safe, and culturally they are similar to me with no language barriers.



I'll save the more involved trip to visit Napoleon's grave in St. Helena for when I have a travel partner...
Title: Re: I think I need an exercise routine...
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "caskur"Yep.. it is bad because we've been swamped with meth and other drugs.

You'd better arm yourself with something then if those twitchy, shady fuckers are around!



They can become unpredictable, fast!




Yes, they're everywhere. Coke and Meth..