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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 01:20:03 AM

Title: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 01:20:03 AM
Singapore is a food mecca. Food is a pre-occupation with most Singaporeans, with food stalls, cafe's and restaurants in every corner of the city.



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This one's a fave; a soup kitchen.

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Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 01:25:08 AM
I could probably find something there that's edible for this Western White boy...
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 01:52:44 AM
Its all edible.



Singapore's hygiene standards exceed most western countries. If food is served that is not appealing, that place may as well shut down, because customers won't show up.



Health inspectors visit randomly, and if a place fails to comply they are shut down forthwith...usually ending their business on the spot.



Food is always fresh and freshly cooked.



Its a great place for food!!
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 01:59:13 AM
Obviously different from China then!  In BC, we can pull up inspection results of eateries, and I'll leave it to you to figure out the eateries that generally top the list for fails...
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 15, 2018, 02:05:59 AM
Be a mean cook and cook at home.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 02:17:28 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Be a mean cook and cook at home.

I often do, but in this case this thread assumes you'll be traveling...  Most people just budget to eat out when traveling, instead of trying to cook things in hotel room.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 04:40:06 AM
Hotel rooms rarely provide cooking facilities.



Apartments do, but at considerable cost, and usually unserviced.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Chuck Bronson on July 15, 2018, 06:04:16 AM
Thanks Brick.  That's awesome help...
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore is a food mecca. Food is a pre-occupation with most Singaporeans, with food stalls, cafe's and restaurants in every corner of the city.



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This one's a fave; a soup kitchen.

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I miss Singapore.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 11:54:37 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore is a food mecca. Food is a pre-occupation with most Singaporeans, with food stalls, cafe's and restaurants in every corner of the city.



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This one's a fave; a soup kitchen.

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I miss Singapore.




Was that your home once?



Go back if you can. Why not?
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore is a food mecca. Food is a pre-occupation with most Singaporeans, with food stalls, cafe's and restaurants in every corner of the city.



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This one's a fave; a soup kitchen.

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I miss Singapore.




Was that your home once?



Go back if you can. Why not?

Fuck you fatso.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore is a food mecca. Food is a pre-occupation with most Singaporeans, with food stalls, cafe's and restaurants in every corner of the city.



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This one's a fave; a soup kitchen.

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I miss Singapore.




Was that your home once?



Go back if you can. Why not?

Fuck you fatso.




Lezbo?
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 12:15:13 PM
ok, it's really rotwang trolling...



haha... imagine attacking to Queen of Flame like that.



Pissant!~
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Odinson on July 15, 2018, 12:20:28 PM
Looks delicious..
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: caskur on July 15, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Looks delicious..




Just remember something before eating Asian take-away. They don't use toilet paper to wipe their bums.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Odinson on July 15, 2018, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Odinson"Looks delicious..




Just remember something before eating Asian take-away. They don't use toilet paper to wipe their bums.


Restaurant personnel are forced to wear plastic gloves in here..
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore is a food mecca. Food is a pre-occupation with most Singaporeans, with food stalls, cafe's and restaurants in every corner of the city.



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This one's a fave; a soup kitchen.

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I don't see a trip to South East Asia on the horizon. But, I would like to see Singapore. It's the safest place in the world and it's in an area of growing islamic extremism. And they city state is 15 per cent muslim to boot. They must keep islam on a short leash.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 07:22:06 PM
Singapore is a tiny speck just below 80 million Malaysian muslims. However, Singapore is perhaps the model of a multicultural society that actually works. Every citizen not only has equal rights, but MUST, by law, have equal access to housing. If a new apartment block is built, the owner must reserve a certain number of units for each ethnic group. There is no segregation. Each group has representation in the country's parliament. Muslims live and work alongside Chinese, Malays and Indians. In the third picture down, you will see a muslim woman serving Chinese customers at a HALAL food stall (no pork, no lard according to a sign). No-one feels alienated, no-one is excluded, no-one is treated as anything less than a citizen the same as everyone else.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2018, 07:46:31 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore is a tiny speck just below 80 million Malaysian muslims. However, Singapore is perhaps the model of a multicultural society that actually works. Every citizen not only has equal rights, but MUST, by law, have equal access to housing. If a new apartment block is built, the owner must reserve a certain number of units for each ethnic group. There is no segregation. Each group has representation in the country's parliament. Muslims live and work alongside Chinese, Malays and Indians. In the third picture down, you will see a muslim woman serving Chinese customers at a HALAL food stall (no pork, no lard according to a sign). No-one feels alienated, no-one is excluded, no-one is treated as anything less than a citizen the same as everyone else.

Malaysia has a population of about thirty two million of which 61.3 per cent is Muslim.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2018, 07:51:02 PM
Yep. My mistake. You are correct. Around 30 million. Still, compared to Singapore its still a big neighbour.



Of course, there is also Indonesia. 250 million muslims.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Zetsu on July 16, 2018, 01:46:55 AM
One of the most amazing things I find from Singapore is they have their own military, and larger than I assumed.  ac_cool
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2018, 02:02:57 AM
Everybody must do 18 months of military service.



No exceptions, but for health issues.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"One of the most amazing things I find from Singapore is they have their own military, and larger than I assumed.  ac_cool

Their air force pilots are trained at Cold Lake in Northern Alberta.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Zetsu on July 16, 2018, 04:16:48 PM
I never knew military service was mandatory there too, while I bet most parents would think this might be harsh and brutal, but imo I believe joining the army is the greatest way to put any teen into top shape.



It doesn't sound surprising if Canada and Singapore's pilots do joint military training together, when I was a kid my brother always talks about the RCAF pilots being amongst the top in the world.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"I never knew military service was mandatory there too, while I bet most parents would think this might be harsh and brutal, but imo I believe joining the army is the greatest way to put any teen into top shape.



It doesn't sound surprising if Canada and Singapore's pilots do joint military training together, when I was a kid my brother always talks about the RCAF pilots being amongst the top in the world.

It takes a lot of space for air force training. That's something Singapore doesn't have.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2018, 06:29:01 PM
True. You can't spit in any direction without hitting the ocean.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2018, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"True. You can't spit in any direction without hitting the ocean.

It has less than a third of the land space of Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2018, 07:02:58 PM
It is a fact that we have farms bigger than Singapore. Yet this tiny speck has more wealth than many countries 100 times its size.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2018, 02:53:30 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It is a fact that we have farms bigger than Singapore. Yet this tiny speck has more wealth than many countries 100 times its size.

That is true. Lee Kuan Yew did a hell of a job building Singapore.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Zetsu on July 17, 2018, 04:20:44 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I never knew military service was mandatory there too, while I bet most parents would think this might be harsh and brutal, but imo I believe joining the army is the greatest way to put any teen into top shape.



It doesn't sound surprising if Canada and Singapore's pilots do joint military training together, when I was a kid my brother always talks about the RCAF pilots being amongst the top in the world.

It takes a lot of space for air force training. That's something Singapore doesn't have.


I never really thought about it, not to mention it might rile up the neighbouring countries up a bit with military exercise at such close proximity, I know China is always sensitive about these kinda stuff.  ac_unsure
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2018, 03:21:44 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I never knew military service was mandatory there too, while I bet most parents would think this might be harsh and brutal, but imo I believe joining the army is the greatest way to put any teen into top shape.



It doesn't sound surprising if Canada and Singapore's pilots do joint military training together, when I was a kid my brother always talks about the RCAF pilots being amongst the top in the world.

It takes a lot of space for air force training. That's something Singapore doesn't have.


I never really thought about it, not to mention it might rile up the neighbouring countries up a bit with military exercise at such close proximity, I know China is always sensitive about these kinda stuff.  ac_unsure

I don't know if China would care unless it was a joint exercise with the USA.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 17, 2018, 06:45:25 PM
Singapore has an airbase in Australia. Its in Queensland somewhere. Its used for training, weapons firing exercises and safe storage of aircraft.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2018, 01:52:23 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Singapore has an airbase in Australia. Its in Queensland somewhere. Its used for training, weapons firing exercises and safe storage of aircraft.

That makes sense.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2018, 07:00:54 PM
Its good being Australian in Singapore.



We have a very close relationship with them.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 18, 2018, 08:10:52 PM
The only country I've been in where a cleaning lady wiped the counter immediately after I washed my hands. Incredible.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 18, 2018, 08:11:49 PM
Even at the Ritz Carlton here, there is no cleaning lady who wipes the counter immediately after you wash your hands.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 18, 2018, 08:13:15 PM
Nice indoor flora in the airport. Clever.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2018, 02:05:52 AM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"Nice indoor flora in the airport. Clever.

Chiangi airport is something.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 19, 2018, 06:37:09 PM
Its going to be something else quite soon.



Opens next year. Its already built...just the gardens and fitout left to do.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6-b9SMlXhI
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: cc on July 20, 2018, 12:36:20 AM
We didn't really like the feel of the  place  ... thankfully our plans to operate out of and live there were changed at the last minute and we set up in Makati instead.



But did have some funny things happen there



During a visit to Sing with my mate , they had a serial hotel elevator pee'r in on the loose ..... so they set moisture sensors  in the carpeting and an alarm rang in the security office



They caught him when he got to the main floor and it was headlines in the Straight Times



As to the Airport, on another trip alone mate noticed a grossly overweight and "unmistakable from behind" business friend from California at the Airport urinal so he stepped up beside him and said loadly "Chuck .. We really gotta stop meeting this way"



Chuck broke up and laughed so hard he pissed on his pants .. several local english speakers also broke up and in fact explained it all to those who missed it or didn't speak english . Fortunately Chuck saw the humor in it



Overall we were very uncomfortable in the clearly authoritarian city / country where the slightest misque or misinterpretation can be disastrous
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2018, 12:42:15 AM
I'm not seeing a logical reason not to like the place?



Because some people urinated improperly?



Have you been to London? Paris? Bangkok?
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: cc on July 20, 2018, 12:49:43 AM
No silly goose, that was merely a story - I could never enjoy an authoritarian atmosphere c/w human robots on the sidewalks when away from tourist hotels .. . no matter how "perfect" the trappings are ...



It and China (several times and cities) we could not get out of fast enough .. and as to "authoritarian atmosphere" they felt much the same



As to the cities, 2 of the 3 and MANY more ... chose smaller Puket over Bangkok
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2018, 01:02:03 AM
Some countries prefer authority over inconsistency and uncertainty.



I'm warming more and more to it. Our current system doesn't work.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: cc on July 20, 2018, 01:06:24 AM
I do understand that some prefer order. For most in those 2 countries, they  know nothing of being free to think beyond just intellectually  .. it's simply "what is"  .. or normal to them .. No decisions to make and big brother takes care of everything and / or has rules for everything



For me I choose to be surrounded by "people"  ... independent people .. or no one .... and not surrounded by and packed in with what I saw as human robots  in Sing and  China



Several trips to both were strictly because of business conventions and business dealings ... and were as short as we could possibly make them



Agreed that our system is not working well at this point in time and seems to already be set up to never work.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2018, 01:58:51 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Some countries prefer authority over inconsistency and uncertainty.



I'm warming more and more to it. Our current system doesn't work.

Something needs to change in the West, that is a given.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2018, 02:22:56 AM
Quote from: "cc"I do understand that some prefer order. For most in those 2 countries, they  know nothing of being free to think beyond just intellectually  .. it's simply "what is"  .. or normal to them .. No decisions to make and big brother takes care of everything and / or has rules for everything



For me I choose to be surrounded by "people"  ... independent people .. or no one .... and not surrounded by and packed in with what I saw as human robots  in Sing and  China



Several trips to both were strictly because of business conventions and business dealings ... and were as short as we could possibly make them



Agreed that our system is not working well at this point in time and seems to already be set up to never work.


It is worthwhile considering what OUR situation looks like to more authoritarian nations?



Our political tumult, in almost all democracies, is embarrassing. THEY notice that our free and democratically elected politicians seem to act outside the interest of the average citizen. They see corruption at the highest level. They see homelessness despite great wealth. They see rules change as governments change, and judge us unreliable.



Democracy has hit the wall of reality. The illusion that because we vote, we are "free" is falling away. They may know nothing of being free...but if you think YOU do, you're not thinking rationally. Your money is stolen from you for expenses you do not support. Your speech is being restricted on a daily basis. The political class is elitist. Your courts serve the villains, and your media serve their owners.



You are far from free. You may be able to speak your mind...at the moment...more critically than in other countries, but the reality is no-one listens, so they don't care what you say.



The difference between us and them is we get to choose our dictators.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2018, 02:26:47 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"


It is worthwhile considering what OUR situation looks like to more authoritarian nations?



Our political tumult, in almost all democracies, is embarrassing. THEY notice that our free and democratically elected politicians seem to act outside the interest of the average citizen. They see corruption at the highest level. They see homelessness despite great wealth. They see rules change as governments change, and judge us unreliable.



Democracy has hit the wall of reality. The illusion that because we vote, we are "free" is falling away. They may know nothing of being free...but if you think YOU do, you're not thinking rationally. Your money is stolen from you for expenses you do not support. Your speech is being restricted on a daily basis. The political class is elitist. Your courts serve the villains, and your media serve their owners.



You are far from free. You may be able to speak your mind...at the moment...more critically than in other countries, but the reality is no-one listens, so they don't care what you say.



The difference between us and them is we get to choose our dictators.

Voting now impedes real freedom. Like the Seoul brother said, democracy as we know it was not designed for the information age.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2018, 02:41:49 AM
Good point. The information age is the death of this perversion of "democracy".
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2018, 02:44:48 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Good point. The information age is the death of this perversion of "democracy".

Modern democracy is such a farce. About two dozen prog billionaires using their social media platforms guiding our thoughts and controlling our politicians. It's worse than China.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2018, 03:10:51 AM
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2018, 08:40:32 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Good point. The information age is the death of this perversion of "democracy".

Politicians and public figures are terrified of being labelled on social media.
Title: Re: Grubs up - in Singapore.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2018, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Good point. The information age is the death of this perversion of "democracy".

Politicians and public figures are terrified of being labelled on social media.

It seems that way.