Everybody in the world thinks their side is the good guys, but we can't all be right, so how can you  tell which is which?
I am not religious at all--but I think this bible verse describes this well-- because of its logic.
Matthew 7:15-20 New King James Version (NKJV) You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
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Think about that and then think about this--
https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-acts-of-media-approved-violence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/
The Trump haters TELL us they are the tolerant, the compassionate ,they are about love, they are the "antifascists" but what does their BEHAVIOR say?
Judge them not by their words, but by their fruits--the things they do, and you have a very very different story. i.e.They have a near monopoly on political threats, violence, bullying, intimidation, everything ugly.  So how can THEY be the good guys?
			 
			
			
				Yeah, when I want somebody to unpack the Gospels for me Breitbart will be my first choice.
 ac_toofunny
			
			
			
				How quickly things change--last week it was illegal immigrants separated from the parents (something that obama did too) that was the justificiation for hate and hysteria and threats by the leftists last week.
So what is it this week?  Oh now its trump is traitor because he had a good meeting with Putin against the backdrop of a fake russian conspiracy theory.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/17/brennan_trump_putin_presser_nothing_short_of_treasonous_there_will_be_consequences_for_him.html
Even though Brennan actually voted for a member of the communist party
Steve Coehn Democrat representatiove implied that the military shopuld overthrow trunmpo becauwe of his meeting with Putin
https://twitter.com/RepCohen/status/1018922567380455426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1018922567380455426&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ffreebeacon.com%2Fpolitics%2Fhouse-democrat-sparks-controversy-seeming-call-military-coup-helsinki-summit%2F
Which actually is treasonous
Meanwhile, elsewhere
But yeah, Trump is a "traitor" to America, while these people are the true patriots :001_rolleyes: 
https://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/07/20/america-was-never-great-maxine-waters-supporters-burn-american-flag-outside-her-office/

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				Quote from: "Peaches"
 ac_toofunny
Not the point of the thread and you know it.  the point of the thread is talking about politically motivated violence, threats etc.  Something which the Trump hating side has a near monopoly on.
			 
			
			
				I think it was you Wazzzup who quoted a conservative radio host who said, if the anti Trump extremists don't come to their senses soon, people will start getting killed.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Peaches"
 ac_toofunny
Not the point of the thread and you know it.  the point of the thread is talking about politically motivated violence, threats etc.  Something which the Trump hating side has a near monopoly on.
And Peaches won't disavow it.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Peaches"
 ac_toofunny
Not the point of the thread and you know it.  the point of the thread is talking about politically motivated violence, threats etc.  Something which the Trump hating side has a near monopoly on.
And Peaches won't disavow it.
Which is the primary reason I don't take seriously anything the self proclaimed scientist posts.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Peaches"
 ac_toofunny
Not the point of the thread and you know it.  the point of the thread is talking about politically motivated violence, threats etc.  Something which the Trump hating side has a near monopoly on.
Sorry, the point of the thread is a pack of hypocrites trying to prop Trump up with the Gospel of Matthew.  And I rejected it.  
Quote from: "Fashionista"
And Peaches won't disavow it.
What is it that I'm supposed to "disavow?"  The claim that trump haters are more violent than trump supporters?  It's not my job to disprove unsourced unproven bullshit on a message board, nor to disavow aspersions of my own character based on such bullshit.
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Which is the primary reason I don't take seriously anything the self proclaimed scientist posts.
Are you still trolling how disappointed you are in me?  Does anyone attach much importance to it?
			 
			
			
				Make a stand, Preaches.
Do you support the violence and flag burning of the American left?
Do you believe Trump should be impeached? If so, why?
Enlighten us, o' great political scientist...
			
			
			
				Here's a video, kiddies.
I think it exemplifies the problem perfectly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7C6kH-LbpI
			
			
			
				I don't like him. He doesn't give me enough cake!!
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Do you support the violence and flag burning of the American left?
Do you believe Trump should be impeached? If so, why?
Enlighten us, o' great political scientist...
I should write a special post for you, when all the information you seek is already here?
Or should I write it so you or others can request it again in a week or two?
			 
			
			
				Ah...well...you have me there.
I don't give a fuck what you think or post. 
Besides, I'm frightened you'll put a contract out on me if I press the issue.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
  
No that's your strawman argument, the real one you did not address, and you certainly didn't defeat it.  
leave trump out of it-- what is the fruit the left bears these days?  Violence threats intimidation.  The left no longer honestly argues its ideas, it just tries to coerce and bully people into submitting to them.  How in the world can that be the side of good???
Quote from: "Peaches"
    
the claim with mountains of evidence provided to back it up.  Like brick said why don't you stand up and tell us you think your fascist leftist violent friends are so infallibly right that it justifies their behavior, or, admit it is terrible and say you don't like trump but this behavior is unacceptable.   Stop taking the cowards way out and denying the obvious.
			 
			
			
				The left's infatuation with trumps assassination and death
Hang trump tee shirts sold on facebook

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The New yorker Cover

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Art Gallery Displays Painting of Trump Being Decapitated

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Snoop dogg shoots Trump in video

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kathy griffin posing with trumps severed head

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Shakespeare in the park depiction of trump's assassination

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of course this list leaves off the numerous celebrities that all tweeted about killing or beating trump or threatening his 12 year old son and 4 year old granddaughter.
BTW I'm sure that peaches will chime in to say none of these things ever happened.
			 
			
			
				You need to be careful, wazzzer....
Quote from: "Peaches"
 :2lc4sh4_th:
			 
			
			
				Peaches defends his violent, brown shirt prog colleagues, but just like antifa. he's a gutless coward and a weakling himself. If he got in a slapping fight with Fash, the smart money would be on that old faggot peaches tapping out first.
			
			
			
				Did you not read my quote above!!!
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
 :roll:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
			 
			
			
				Hey. It's all "Peach"y
If only his cohorts  were smart enough to could get it right side up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytbxfsk7ZU
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
If only his cohorts  were smart enough to could get it right side up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytbxfsk7ZU
Peaches pals are a sick bunch of anarchist thugs.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
He seems androgynous. I am not a big guy, but I doubt Peaches would be very intimidating in real life.
			 
			
			
				Are you implying he's intimidating on the internet?
 :roll: 
The guy is a vacuous chump.
			
			
			
				Tbveryh I find the extreme left are nothing but either sellouts/traitors, entitled trash, hypocrites or control freaks, etc and deserve to have their ass place upon those razor shape Japanese swords to be set as an example.   ac_drinks
			
			
			
				I wonder where'll they'll scamper to when the bullets start to fly.
Gun rich Americans cannot resist the call to arms much longer.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Gun rich Americans cannot resist the call to arms much longer.
Lol, I agree too at least by 120%, why need a gun when you're not a cop or a soldier, at least don't make things worst for everyone.  ac_unsure
			 
			
			
				I am amazed that the left and right haven't starting shooting each other by now.
Darwin's theory virtually demands it!!
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Darwin's theory virtually demands it!!
Lol I doubt it'll ever happen, considering 2 of the biggest most hateful/spineless grps in the US that need to hide their face, the KKK & Antifa are both happen to be founded or allied with the Democrats.  :001_tongue:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
If only his cohorts  were smart enough to could get it right side up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytbxfsk7ZU
Man they remind me of the Nazis, except their just too fking spineles and lazy to do anything, typical left trash.  :laugh3:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
 :roll: 
The guy is a vacuous chump.
And a sickening fairy. 
As I said, Fash is more intimidating on the net and probably in real life too than Ms Peaches.
			 
			
			
				You mean there's NO Mrs Peach?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Darwin's theory virtually demands it!!
That's because the 'right,' whom are the majority of gun owners, aren't what you think they are...  They are, for the most part, responsible with their life choices.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Darwin's theory virtually demands it!!
That's because the 'right,' whom are the majority of gun owners, aren't what you think they are...  They are, for the most part, responsible with their life choices.
that is correct.  the right is a law abiding bunch who want the process (law enforcement etc) to fix this, as opposed to fighting back in the streets.  if the left keeps pushing and escalating though, things may change.
Whatever happens though.  Never forget who started it and how it went down.  It was the left behaving horribly, and doing so with almost no fighting back on the right, for quite a long time.
			 
			
			
				leftist Liz Warren supporter assaults her republican opponent 
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1021147704867590144
not a huge deal in the grand scheme, but just another reminder that leftists, for the most part, are nasty fascists who think their hatred for trump entitles them to act in the worst ways possible.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1021147704867590144
not a huge deal in the grand scheme, but just another reminder that leftists, for the most part, are nasty fascists who think their hatred for trump entitles them to act in the worst ways possible.
We have become desensitized to prog nazi brown shirt violence and intimidation. We even have an apologist for prog fascism.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Darwin's theory virtually demands it!!
That's because the 'right,' whom are the majority of gun owners, aren't what you think they are...  They are, for the most part, responsible with their life choices.
that is correct.  the right is a law abiding bunch who want the process (law enforcement etc) to fix this, as opposed to fighting back in the streets.  if the left keeps pushing and escalating though, things may change.
Whatever happens though.  Never forget who started it and how it went down.  It was the left behaving horribly, and doing so with almost no fighting back on the right, for quite a long time.
Until the gov and its law enforcement no longer abide by their charters. Then, look out!
			 
			
			
				True.
Look at your dump, Melbourne.
The government and Police are ignoring their charters, and African gangs are running amok.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Look at your dump, Melbourne.
The government and Police are ignoring their charters, and African gangs are running amok.
I'm not in Melbourne. I try to look at or visit it as little as humanly possible the same as I do for the entire state of SA.
			 
			
			
				Let's see. Melbourne, capital of Victoria.
Freud, somewhere in Victoria.
Same government. Same stupid shit. Because YOUR government and its senior police stooges ignore their charter. 
Splitting hairs won't alter fact, Buckwheat.
			
			
			
				:001_rolleyes:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Hey, it's cool.  Everybody ran outta shit to say about me.
Your turn in the barrel.
			 
			
			
				HEY!!!
I got plenty of shit left.
But timing is everything.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Look at your dump, Melbourne.
The government and Police are ignoring their charters, and African gangs are running amok.
I'm curious, did they come to Australia as refugees or immigrants?
			 
			
			
				SHOCK VIDEO: MEMBER OF RIGHT-WING GROUP FACES BRUTAL MOB BEATING
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1021783002827960320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1021783002827960320&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F07%2F24%2Fshock-video-proud-boy-beaten%2F
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The attack apparently happened when the man showed up to a protest over the killing of an African-American woman in a BART station.
This display of political violence follows a disturbing trend of Trump supporters and conservatives in general facing harassment and intimidation in public. (RELATED: Since Trump's Election, Violence Against His Supporters Has Become Routine http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/13/since-trumps-election-violence-against-his-supporters-has-become-routine/ )
California Democrat Maxine Waters told a crowd in June, "If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station — you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. Tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere!" 
Not shocking really, but rather quite common, because Trump haters are disgusting fascists who think their hate for Trump entitles to them to do anything.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1021783002827960320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1021783002827960320&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F07%2F24%2Fshock-video-proud-boy-beaten%2F
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The attack apparently happened when the man showed up to a protest over the killing of an African-American woman in a BART station.
This display of political violence follows a disturbing trend of Trump supporters and conservatives in general facing harassment and intimidation in public. (RELATED: Since Trump's Election, Violence Against His Supporters Has Become Routine http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/13/since-trumps-election-violence-against-his-supporters-has-become-routine/ )
California Democrat Maxine Waters told a crowd in June, "If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station — you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. Tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere!" 
Not shocking really, but rather quite common, because Trump haters are disgusting fascists who think their hate for Trump entitles to them to do anything.
So the Proud Boys member was assaulted by a mob not because of what he did, but what he believes.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1021783002827960320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1021783002827960320&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F07%2F24%2Fshock-video-proud-boy-beaten%2F
Quote
The attack apparently happened when the man showed up to a protest over the killing of an African-American woman in a BART station.
This display of political violence follows a disturbing trend of Trump supporters and conservatives in general facing harassment and intimidation in public. (RELATED: Since Trump's Election, Violence Against His Supporters Has Become Routine http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/13/since-trumps-election-violence-against-his-supporters-has-become-routine/ )
California Democrat Maxine Waters told a crowd in June, "If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station — you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. Tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere!" 
Not shocking really, but rather quite common, because Trump haters are disgusting fascists who think their hate for Trump entitles to them to do anything.
Trump should seriously consider cutting out welfare so these waste of sh*t couldn't reproduce anymore offsprings.  I'm not a big fan of proud boys for taking more credit than they deserve, but yea jumping just one guy all by himself only proves how uncultured and barbaric some left wingers have become these days.
			 
			
			
				There are lots of political views I don't like..
But, civilized democracies must not tolerate violence against anyone for having an unpopular viewpoint..
This is what scares me about what is happening in the USA..
We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, civilized democracies must not tolerate violence against anyone for having an unpopular viewpoint..
This is what scares me about what is happening in the USA..
We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
I heartfully agree, Proud Boys isn't even anywhere close to a hate grp like the gang of degenerates that attacked the guy, it's sad how stupid and easily provoked some people can get.  If it's not this then it's lame beheading of people they don't like in a form of a piñata, sculptures or drawing, I swear low life like that don't really deserve any human rights.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, civilized democracies must not tolerate violence against anyone for having an unpopular viewpoint..
This is what scares me about what is happening in the USA..
We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
I heartfully agree, Proud Boys isn't even anywhere close to a hate grp like the gang of degenerates that attacked the guy, it's sad how stupid and easily provoked some people can get.  If it's not this then it's lame beheading of people they don't like in a form of a piñata, sculptures or drawing, I swear low life like that don't really deserve any human rights.
Progtards like Ms Peaches have no problem with beheadings. They will find some obscure logic to blame the West, ie blame the victim.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, civilized democracies must not tolerate violence against anyone for having an unpopular viewpoint..
This is what scares me about what is happening in the USA..
We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
Bingo
In a democracy ideas are supposed to be discussed and then the public votes.  Leftists don't want to argue their side anymore, they just want to punish people who don't agree with them.  They are destroying representative democracy, and they don't care.
Their attitude is, they are so infallibly right, that any means necessary (including violence) to advance their beliefs is justified-- if that sounds like nazis, Maoists and stalinists, it should, because that's the exact same mindset of all the worst movements in history.
peaches just confirms how deep it runs.  The left's fascist movement is not just a few bad apples acting out, it includes just about everyone from that ideological spectrum, democrat leaders, journalists, celebs, and many other liberal VIPs, as well as rank and file people like peaches who cheer it all on.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, civilized democracies must not tolerate violence against anyone for having an unpopular viewpoint..
This is what scares me about what is happening in the USA..
We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
I heartfully agree, Proud Boys isn't even anywhere close to a hate grp like the gang of degenerates that attacked the guy, it's sad how stupid and easily provoked some people can get.  If it's not this then it's lame beheading of people they don't like in a form of a piñata, sculptures or drawing, I swear low life like that don't really deserve any human rights.
Progtards like Ms Peaches have no problem with beheadings. They will find some obscure logic to blame the West, ie blame the victim.
Lol I almost forgot about that too, or they love to use the "I'm a product of the environment" excuse, but yea, the left is only getting more lame and pitiful since the past decade.  Before I used to believe liberalism was the way to go, but then I was only a kid back then, they can fool me once, but not the second time, lol.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, civilized democracies must not tolerate violence against anyone for having an unpopular viewpoint..
This is what scares me about what is happening in the USA..
We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
Bingo
In a democracy ideas are supposed to be discussed and then the public votes.  Leftists don't want to argue their side anymore, they just want to punish people who don't agree with them.  They are destroying representative democracy, and they don't care.
Their attitude is, they are so infallibly right, that any means necessary (including violence) to advance their beliefs is justified-- if that sounds like nazis, Maoists and stalinists, it should, because that's the exact same mindset of all the worst movements in history.
peaches just confirms how deep it runs.  The left's fascist movement is not just a few bad apples acting out, it includes just about everyone from that ideological spectrum, democrat leaders, journalists, celebs, and many other liberal VIPs, as well as rank and file people like peaches who cheer it all on.
Yes
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
===We even have an American poster here who has no qualms about violence and intimidation against people he disagrees with.
===peaches just confirms how deep it runs.  
===as well as rank and file people like peaches who cheer it all on.
HEY   ac_hithere 
I haven't even posted in this thread, but just look at all the horrible shit being ascribed to me.
I challenge either of you fuckwits to link me up to something I said that justifies your remarks.
But I doubt that you can, since I've never been mentioned in dailycaller which seems to be where all your ridiculous, ahistorical, politically impossible talking points seem to come from.
You too, SB, since you've just endorsed this pile of dreck as I was typing a reply.
			 
			
			
				https://thebluecashew.net/politics-f7/politicial-humour-t6227-580.html   :oeudC:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
It's typical Peaches..
He doesn't dispute what was posted, so he responds with criticism about how a post was written.
 :001_rolleyes:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
It's typical Peaches..
He doesn't dispute what was posted, so he responds with criticism about how a post was written.
 :001_rolleyes:
That's the feeling I'm already getting too from him, despite I hardly know Peach.  I can tell he's careful with what he says, but doesn't hide the fact it's pretty irrational and bias as heck.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
It's typical Peaches..
He doesn't dispute what was posted, so he responds with criticism about how a post was written.
 :001_rolleyes:
That's the feeling I'm already getting too from him, despite I hardly know Peach.  I can tell he's careful with what he says, but doesn't hide the fact it's pretty irrational and bias as heck.
He has no problem with the new left's reversal from defending free speech to physically attacking those they disagree with.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
I'll check back later.  So far, it's no go.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
It's typical Peaches..
He doesn't dispute what was posted, so he responds with criticism about how a post was written.
 :001_rolleyes:
That's the feeling I'm already getting too from him, despite I hardly know Peach.  I can tell he's careful with what he says, but doesn't hide the fact it's pretty irrational and bias as heck.
He has no problem with the new left's reversal from defending free speech to physically attacking those they disagree with.
I agree with you bro, and he's only starting to show his true self, turning a blindeye or feigning ignorance isn't going to help him convince anyone here in TBC.  He's really better off packing his bags and go back to brown nosing RW's rear end.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Bricktop"
Look at your dump, Melbourne.
The government and Police are ignoring their charters, and African gangs are running amok.
I'm curious, did they come to Australia as refugees or immigrants?
Refugees.
Despite widespread criticism and concern, Australia opened its doors to these people and is now paying a price. Sudanese are violent, lazy and misplaced in white society.
They need to be returned to their shithole.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Look at your dump, Melbourne.
The government and Police are ignoring their charters, and African gangs are running amok.
I'm curious, did they come to Australia as refugees or immigrants?
Refugees.
Despite widespread criticism and concern, Australia opened its doors to these people and is now paying a price. Sudanese are violent, lazy and misplaced in white society.
They need to be returned to their shithole.
And they Australian taxpayer picked up the tab.
			 
			
			
				Yep. Thousands of these roaches living off the taxpayer.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
And isn't the diversity they bring worth the spike in crime and increase to social spending. ac_toofunny
			 
			
			
				Oh, hell yes.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/young-woman-killed-in-melbourne-apartment-horrendous-screaming/news-story/e7224534b775bd9bc2e58ce2345967c9
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Toronto appears to be the 'go-to' place for black refugees in Canada.  I believe many are from Haiti, but I'm sure they come from everywhere.  Often nothing but trouble with them.
Out west here there aren't many blacks, but a quick drive through the downtown eastside of Van will show you a few of these black refugees doing what they do best...  Dealing drugs and pimpin'...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Toronto appears to be the 'go-to' place for black refugees in Canada.  I believe many are from Haiti, but I'm sure they come from everywhere.  Often nothing but trouble with them.
Out west here there aren't many blacks, but a quick drive through the downtown eastside of Van will show you a few of these black refugees doing what they do best...  Dealing drugs and pimpin'...
After the War of Northern Aggression, many freed slaves went up North (those already in the North still remained slaves for a while), where they found that Northerners hated blacks. So, a lot of them either went back South where they were treated better, or continued going further North, into Canada.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Toronto appears to be the 'go-to' place for black refugees in Canada.  I believe many are from Haiti, but I'm sure they come from everywhere.  Often nothing but trouble with them.
Out west here there aren't many blacks, but a quick drive through the downtown eastside of Van will show you a few of these black refugees doing what they do best...  Dealing drugs and pimpin'...
Montreal has Canada's largest Haitian community. Makes sense since Haitians are francophones.
			 
			
			
				
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Those that disagree with his politics stoop to vandalism.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Those that disagree with his politics stoop to vandalism.
Yes.  I suppose its better than beating people and threatening people. Which is what the usually do
BTW the story gets better--The vandal who did it as charged with felony vandalism--said get this--that  Robert Di Nero called and gave the vandal a message that  he wanted to give him a "high five" about which the vandal said "I think I did a real good act, I feel proud of myself." 
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fight-erupts-donald-trumps-walk-fame-star-days-vandalized-163046117.html
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Those that disagree with his politics stoop to vandalism.
Yes.  I suppose its better than beating people and threatening people. Which is what the usually do
BTW the story gets better--The vandal who did it as charged with felony vandalism--said get this--that  Robert Di Nero called and gave the vandal a message that  he wanted to give him a "high five" about which the vandal said "I think I did a real good act, I feel proud of myself." 
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fight-erupts-donald-trumps-walk-fame-star-days-vandalized-163046117.html
Maybe De Niro's star will be vandalized.
			 
			
			
				The bigger question is why a businessman and politican gets a Hollywood star?
Thought that was just for actors...usually poor and overhyped actors.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Thought that was just for actors...usually poor and overhyped actors.
Donald Trump had a hit reality show.
			 
			
			
				I thought that was his Presidency?
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Those that disagree with his politics stoop to vandalism.
Yes.  I suppose its better than beating people and threatening people. Which is what the usually do
BTW the story gets better--The vandal who did it as charged with felony vandalism--said get this--that  Robert Di Nero called and gave the vandal a message that  he wanted to give him a "high five" about which the vandal said "I think I did a real good act, I feel proud of myself." 
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fight-erupts-donald-trumps-walk-fame-star-days-vandalized-163046117.html
Maybe De Niro's star will be vandalized.
Most on the left  say that hating trump justifies violent destructive behavior, some others take a different tack, they downplay it and says its just the acts of a few.  But its not, this is all being spurred on by the media, prog celebutards, democrat politicians and other leftist VIPs.  Nearly the entire left from leadership on down to rank and file has become fully fascist and extreme.
			 
			
			
				America seems to be staring down the barrel of a gun at this time in its history.
			
			
			
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yes a left wing extremist totalitarian gun.  You are too, it just hasn't gotten as bad for Australia  
			
			
				It's an interesting point.
Is Australia heading the same way?
There are similarities...but there are wide differences as well. Such as;
Australia is not burdened by an alien culture to the same magnitude as America with the massive Mexican wave folding over it. Similarly, Australia does not have the same racial issues with blacks. The Australian aboriginal population is small, and disorganised. 
Australia does not have a massive gun problem...and this is key to any potential internecine conflict. 
Australia does not have the same proportion of leftist elites as the US. Australian entertainers are not granted the same status as their US counterparts, and they have no influence.
Australia does not have the same propensity to violence as the US. 
Australia suffers less political corruption.
Australia is a far more egalitarian society.
Australia's military is comparatively small and less likely to support an armed conflict.
That does not mean it can't happen here. It can. And if the US leads the way, the chances of civil uprising will increase. However, the US or UK are far more likely, and for the same reasons, to collapse into chaos and crisis.
Regardless, the chances of armed conflict in Western democracies grow daily.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is Australia heading the same way?
There are similarities...but there are wide differences as well. Such as;
Australia is not burdened by an alien culture to the same magnitude as America with the massive Mexican wave folding over it. Similarly, Australia does not have the same racial issues with blacks. The Australian aboriginal population is small, and disorganised. 
Australia does not have a massive gun problem...and this is key to any potential internecine conflict. 
Australia does not have the same proportion of leftist elites as the US. Australian entertainers are not granted the same status as their US counterparts, and they have no influence.
Australia does not have the same propensity to violence as the US. 
Australia suffers less political corruption.
Australia is a far more egalitarian society.
Australia's military is comparatively small and less likely to support an armed conflict.
That does not mean it can't happen here. It can. And if the US leads the way, the chances of civil uprising will increase. However, the US or UK are far more likely, and for the same reasons, to collapse into chaos and crisis.
Regardless, the chances of armed conflict in Western democracies grow daily.
Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have problems with indigenous issues..
The USA, not quite as much.
			 
			
			
				Yes, but on a proportionally much smaller scale than the US.
Our aborigines are small in number, and very few have elevated themselves into positions of influence. The same applies to New Zealand. The maoris are a small percentage of the total population...although some have achieved very senior government positions.
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Those that disagree with his politics stoop to vandalism.

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				Quote from: "Peaches"

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 Well peaches many here have said you back democrat and left wing thug tactics.  You have implied a few times that you have been misrepresented.  here is your chance to be clear. 
Do you endorse felonious destruction of private property as a means to a political ends?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Peaches"

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 Well peaches many here have said you back democrat and left wing thug tactics.  You have implied a few times that you have been misrepresented.  here is your chance to be clear. 
Do you endorse felonious destruction of private property as a means to a political ends?
First, let's be clear about whose PUBLIC property has been vandalized.
Quote from: "Wikipedia"
Did I read that right?  More than 2600 stars?
Yeah, it's definitely PUBLIC property, not private.  And it's in HOLLYWOOD, which I'd bet you've never spoken of previously as anything more moral than BABYLON....which is a thing that righties and lefities mostly agree.  WTF does one monument among thousands really amount to?  Most tourists wouldn't recognize more than a hundred or so of the names.
Second, my image is clearly a chop, intended as satire.
Third, this is a monument to "entertainers" who according to your bible Daily Caller are all worthless "progtards" so the inclusion of Trump who is arguably a failure as an entertainer and certainly no progtard was a hideous mistake in the first place, only made possible by dirty entertainment money.
Yet, all the righties are drenching the Walk of Shame in crocodile tears.
Nuance, man.   Get some.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Peaches"

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 Well peaches many here have said you back democrat and left wing thug tactics.  You have implied a few times that you have been misrepresented.  here is your chance to be clear. 
Do you endorse felonious destruction of private property as a means to a political ends?
First, let's be clear about whose PUBLIC property has been vandalized.
Quote from: "Wikipedia"
Did I read that right?  More than 2600 stars?
Yeah, it's definitely PUBLIC property, not private.  And it's in HOLLYWOOD, which I'd bet you've never spoken of previously as anything more moral than BABYLON....which is a thing that righties and lefities mostly agree.  WTF does one monument among thousands really amount to?  Most tourists wouldn't recognize more than a hundred or so of the names.
Second, my image is clearly a chop, intended as satire.
Third, this is a monument to "entertainers" who according to your bible Daily Caller are all worthless "progtards" so the inclusion of Trump who is arguably a failure as an entertainer and certainly no progtard was a hideous mistake in the first place, only made possible by dirty entertainment money.
Yet, all the righties are drenching the Walk of Shame in crocodile tears.
Nuance, man.   Get some.
okay, not private property, check, moral babylon, check, one of many stars, check, image is a chop, check.'
Still no clear answer to the question though. :sad:
I don't know what the nuance is.  If someone asked me if my disliking a politician justified felony vandalism Id say no. Its not that difficult.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Peaches"
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Quote from: "Peaches"

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 Well peaches many here have said you back democrat and left wing thug tactics.  You have implied a few times that you have been misrepresented.  here is your chance to be clear. 
Do you endorse felonious destruction of private property as a means to a political ends?
First, let's be clear about whose PUBLIC property has been vandalized.
Quote from: "Wikipedia"
Did I read that right?  More than 2600 stars?
Yeah, it's definitely PUBLIC property, not private.  And it's in HOLLYWOOD, which I'd bet you've never spoken of previously as anything more moral than BABYLON....which is a thing that righties and lefities mostly agree.  WTF does one monument among thousands really amount to?  Most tourists wouldn't recognize more than a hundred or so of the names.
Second, my image is clearly a chop, intended as satire.
Third, this is a monument to "entertainers" who according to your bible Daily Caller are all worthless "progtards" so the inclusion of Trump who is arguably a failure as an entertainer and certainly no progtard was a hideous mistake in the first place, only made possible by dirty entertainment money.
Yet, all the righties are drenching the Walk of Shame in crocodile tears.
Nuance, man.   Get some.
okay, not private property, check, moral babylon, check, one of many stars, check, image is a chop, check.'
Still no clear answer to the question though. :sad:
I don't know what the nuance is.  If someone asked me if my disliking a politician justified felony vandalism Id say no. Its not that difficult.
Fair enough.  I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases, but felony vandalism is not something I approve of.  I've had lots of practice around here observing this distinction because there's a national forest and a lot of logging contracts, and some tree hugger protests involving chains and padlocks but not extending to setting shit on fire or pouring sugar in fuel tanks.
On the other hand, even felony vandalism doesn't rise to the levels of "violence" the state will bring to bear on people exercising their constitutional rights to protest...but that is for another conversation.
			 
			
			
				The American political left are probably the worst in the world, those ANTIFA belong in cages like the feral animals they are.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Fair enough.  I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases, but felony vandalism is not something I approve of.  I've had lots of practice around here observing this distinction because there's a national forest and a lot of logging contracts, and some tree hugger protests involving chains and padlocks but not extending to setting shit on fire or pouring sugar in fuel tanks.
On the other hand, even felony vandalism doesn't rise to the levels of "violence" the state will bring to bear on people exercising their constitutional rights to protest...but that is for another conversation.
In this country, we have no "constitutional right" to damage private or public property, punch people in the face for having a different opinion or harassing off duty peace officers.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Fair enough.  I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases, but felony vandalism is not something I approve of.  I've had lots of practice around here observing this distinction because there's a national forest and a lot of logging contracts, and some tree hugger protests involving chains and padlocks but not extending to setting shit on fire or pouring sugar in fuel tanks.
On the other hand, even felony vandalism doesn't rise to the levels of "violence" the state will bring to bear on people exercising their constitutional rights to protest...but that is for another conversation.
In this country, we have no "constitutional right" to damage private or public property, punch people in the face for having a different opinion or harassing off duty peace officers.
That's nice, but I thought we were talking about people in southern California which for better or worse is not part of your country.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Fair enough.  I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases, but felony vandalism is not something I approve of.  I've had lots of practice around here observing this distinction because there's a national forest and a lot of logging contracts, and some tree hugger protests involving chains and padlocks but not extending to setting shit on fire or pouring sugar in fuel tanks.
On the other hand, even felony vandalism doesn't rise to the levels of "violence" the state will bring to bear on people exercising their constitutional rights to protest...but that is for another conversation.
In this country, we have no "constitutional right" to damage private or public property, punch people in the face for having a different opinion or harassing off duty peace officers.
That's nice, but I thought we were talking about people in southern California which for better or worse is not part of your country.
I think Seoul knows that.
 :001_rolleyes:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Fair enough.  I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases, but felony vandalism is not something I approve of.  I've had lots of practice around here observing this distinction because there's a national forest and a lot of logging contracts, and some tree hugger protests involving chains and padlocks but not extending to setting shit on fire or pouring sugar in fuel tanks.
On the other hand, even felony vandalism doesn't rise to the levels of "violence" the state will bring to bear on people exercising their constitutional rights to protest...but that is for another conversation.
In this country, we have no "constitutional right" to damage private or public property, punch people in the face for having a different opinion or harassing off duty peace officers.
That's nice, but I thought we were talking about people in southern California which for better or worse is not part of your country.
I think Seoul knows that.
 :001_rolleyes:
I'm virtually certain he does.  I'm asking him politely to connect the dots for me, because I'm sure he has a deeper point than what meets the eye.  People on this forum don't typically make nice with me with "that's not the way we do things here" when it's not my OP or my topic, and I haven't suggested they should.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
I'm virtually certain he does. 
You don't need Seoul to do that for you.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Peaches"
I'm virtually certain he does. 
You don't need Seoul to do that for you.
Nor do I need to reply to his post at all, even if it's addressed to me.  I can be discourteous just as others do.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Peaches"
I'm virtually certain he does. 
You don't need Seoul to do that for you.
For a "scientist", Peaches sure acts stupid.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases.
Thus you condone breaking the law for political purposes.
Which other laws will you accept are breakable in order to promote your ideology?
How about assault? Theft? Arson? 
What is the point and purpose of this thuggery?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Peaches"
I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases.
Thus you condone breaking the law for political purposes.
Which other laws will you accept are breakable in order to promote your ideology?
How about assault? Theft? Arson? 
What is the point and purpose of this thuggery?
To silence people he disagrees with.
			 
			
			
				Then they need another tactic. Its far from effective.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Peaches"
I might condone misdemeanor vandalism in some cases.
Thus you condone breaking the law for political purposes.
Which other laws will you accept are breakable in order to promote your ideology?
How about assault? Theft? Arson? 
What is the point and purpose of this thuggery?
I draw important distinctions between crimes against people and crimes against property.  That stems from an awareness of Anglo-Saxon common law.  But unlike much common law (and most cops) I hold no more reverence for the property of the rich than for the property of the poor.
Law is in many cases a tool of the elite, and I'm not just speaking of the US.  Thus I never ever respect a law simply because it's a law.
"There is no distinctly American criminal class, except Congress."  (Mark Twain)
~~~
I just saw SB's comment.  Inasmuch as my opinions about political action have nothing at all to do with silencing anyone, I reject the comment out of hand but I'd probably like some of whatever he's smoking.
~~~ 
I saw IHJ's comment earlier, but inasmuch as it's just an example of the kind of "ooh, a dogpile, let me pile on too" vapidity I didn't reply to it.  And now I have.
			 
			
			
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I draw important distinctions between crimes against people and crimes against property.  
By what authority do you get to distinguish what constitutes a crime, and what doesn't? Are you implying that you feel free to damage property, but not to assault a police officer arresting you for that non-crime?
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That stems from an awareness of Anglo-Saxon common law.  But unlike much common law (and most cops) I hold no more reverence for the property of the rich than for the property of the poor.
No common law excludes criminal acts simply because you disagree with the law. I fail to see what "common law" (a subject which I am very familiar with for obvious reasons) has to do with obeying any law, common or statutory.
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So, you will determine which "case" of criminal conduct is an elitist tool and which is not? Is speeding an elitist tool? What constitutes elitist law?
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"There is no distinctly American criminal class, except Congress."  (Mark Twain)
As with all of Twain's quotes, that one is trite, illogical and deceptive. Perhaps Mr Twain could be forgiven for being unaware of the Mafia, the Crips, the Bloods, M13, Hells Angels and a plethora of career, recidivist criminals. The combined weight of these gangs create what I would call a criminal class. True, at law there is no such thing, but in practice there certainly IS a category, or class, of citizens who's lifestyle is based on defying the law.
You have no right, reason or justification to select which law you will comply with and which you will not. Civil disobedience is a 2 edged sword, Peach...what might be reasonable when your man is not in power becomes unreasonable when your side IS in power. Your philosophy is a pathway to anarchy.
			 
			
			
				People are their own property. There is no legitimate difference in property rights. It works both ways.
			
			
			
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I draw important distinctions between crimes against people and crimes against property.  
By what authority do you get to distinguish what constitutes a crime, and what doesn't? Are you implying that you feel free to damage property, but not to assault a police officer arresting you for that non-crime?
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No common law excludes criminal acts simply because you disagree with the law. I fail to see what "common law" (a subject which I am very familiar with for obvious reasons) has to do with obeying any law, common or statutory.
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So, you will determine which "case" of criminal conduct is an elitist tool and which is not? Is speeding an elitist tool? What constitutes elitist law?
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"There is no distinctly American criminal class, except Congress."  (Mark Twain)
As with all of Twain's quotes, that one is trite, illogical and deceptive. Perhaps Mr Twain could be forgiven for being unaware of the Mafia, the Crips, the Bloods, M13, Hells Angels and a plethora of career, recidivist criminals. The combined weight of these gangs create what I would call a criminal class. True, at law there is no such thing, but in practice there certainly IS a category, or class, of citizens who's lifestyle is based on defying the law.
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You have no right, reason or justification to select which law you will comply with and which you will not. Civil disobedience is a 2 edged sword, Peach...what might be reasonable when your man is not in power becomes unreasonable when your side IS in power. Your philosophy is a pathway to anarchy.
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I claim no "authority" as you put it beyond my own good sense, and the spirit of Jefferson and Adams... when I say I live in Greater Appalachia evidently you don't fully grok the implications, which include civil disobedience, jury nullification, and other such notions.  You're welcome to draw your own inferences but I'm not trying to "imply" anything beyond what I specifically say.  In the case of your examples, I do NOT feel free to damage property without incurring consequences to myself, and I don't assault LEOs no matter what they may do.
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Perhaps to be clear I should have said it "stems from an awareness of what is settled and generally reasonable in Anglo-Saxon common law."  But don't presume to lecture me about your deep familiarity with common law, as my own familiarity no doubt equals yours even though your course of study was different than mine.  
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I'm speaking of law, whether statute law or administrative law, being a tool of the elite.  And evidently you're unable to conceptualize the law as an edict subject to evaluation or criticism, but must instead think I'm speaking of INFRACTIONS of said law...which I would never suggest were an elitist tool.
===As to what constitutes an elitiist law, it's one enacted at the behest of those who bribe legislators, to benefit the bribers or their cronies, rather than to benefit the society generally.  One example would be a particular exception somewhere in the federal income tax code that specifically says that if you are a corporation chartered in New Jersey on August 25, 1958, this subsection does not apply to you.  And even better, this exclusion sunsets every two years and has to be renewed -- which will not happen unless the right Congressman's re-election fund receives the right size check.
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Trite, illogical, deceptive ???  I'll suggest that Twain has sold far more books and made far more paid speeches than you have.  Further, I assure you that organized gangs in the US are hardly a recent invention.  They also existed in the post-Civil War era, side by side with the great Robber Barons of that age.  
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You may not know that I swore an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the US.  The oath did not have an expiration date.
The SCOTUS is not protected under my oath when it issues a decision that corporations are people.  Any fool can see that if corporations were people they would be taxed like people, and would go to jail when they broke the law.  So in reaching that decision I am free indeed to conclude that either the court erred or else there were five justices "in the tank."
Contrary to your assertion, I have EVERY right to make my own decisions about which laws I will obey.  There was a time when in this state I would have been looking at ten years in the joint for passing a single joint to a narc, but apparently I exercised good judgment in my choices about whom to pass a joint to.  I don't dispute your comment on civil disobedience, but in my case "my man" has never been in power regardless of which candidate won the office.  It's always a choice between the Thief and the Idiot.  And sometimes I get both in one.  
As for anarchy, it has a long and varied history.  In a case of societal collapse, the people most scared of anarchy will be the ones who blink first.
			 
			
			
				[size=150]Sen. Cory Booker Pleads for Supporters to 'Get Up in the Face of Congresspeople'[/size]
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/28/cory-booker-pleads-supporters-get-face-congresspeople
Not as bad as "auntie Maxine" but still "get up in the face" of people?  he's not saying call your congressman, write them an email, or a letter, or go to their office and try to talk to them.  No its "get in their faces"
This s a sneaky way for booker to pour more gasoline on the fire and encourage leftist thugs and their brownshirt tactics, while still trying to maintain plausible deniability.  But I think most people know what he really means (harass, threaten, scream, yell, make their lives more difficult-BULLY THEM INTO SUBMISSION)
Whatever happened to try and make a good argument for your views, and try and convince people you are right?  Boy, that idea is long gone on the left it seems
			
			
			
				Most people know "what getting up in people's faces means. Booger does too.
			
			
			
				
Washington Post editorialist says Sarah Sanders should be harassed for life for working for trump
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More prognazi behavior on display
			 
			
			
				Maybe time to construct a 24 unit subsidized building right next door to them...  
			
			
				
Dereal Finklin, 43, who is a registered Democrat in East Orange, was charged with making terroristic threats against the congressman on Saturday.
And
More trump hater fascism
			
			
			
				
Carlos Bayon, 63, was charged last week with leaving the messages for House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., and Republican Conference Chairwoman Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.
The messages appeared to reference President Trump's immigration policy and included the warnings: "[size=150]You are taking ours, we are taking yours."[/size]
According to the affidavit, filed Friday in federal court in Buffalo, investigators found 150 rounds of rifle ammunition and 50 rounds of shotgun shells. 
Authorities also said they found books in Bayon's home that included the titles "How to create a foolproof new identity," "Middle Eastern Terrorist Bomb Designs," and Silent But Deadly: homemade silencers."
			
			
			
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Carlos Bayon, 63, was charged last week with leaving the messages for House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., and Republican Conference Chairwoman Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.
The messages appeared to reference President Trump's immigration policy and included the warnings: "
Sounds like he was serious. Progs shouldn't have guns.  Conservatives hunt with guns and protect themselves with guns, liberals shoot conservatives.
How ironic too, the media keeps running story after story about Trump's rhetoric "endangering the media."  
So far no anti-media attacks.  OTOH dozens of attacks and threats  against Trump and people around him, spurred on by the media.  As usual progs are guilty ten times over of what they accuse others.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
Carlos Bayon, 63, was charged last week with leaving the messages for House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., and Republican Conference Chairwoman Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.
The messages appeared to reference President Trump's immigration policy and included the warnings: "
 :ohmy:
			 
			
			
				Just out for lunch - Leftist Mob Screams At, Throws Drink On TPUSA's Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=bO74OEDyTt4
So, where does this all end up? "You are taking ours, we are taking yours"???
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=bO74OEDyTt4
So, where does this all end up? "You are taking ours, we are taking yours"???
I have no use for conservatives like seoulbro, but I would not throw drinks at him.
			 
			
			
				All this hate and disruption is not actually for conservatives per se
It's for everyone not bowing to the prog god
			
			
			
				What a bunch of rabid morons.
			
			
			
				I didn't bother to watch the whole vid, but if it's those socialist pigs and other should have been aborted bag of shit at it again, then I have nothing to say to those people losing their mind just b/c money isn't handed to them on a platinum platter.  They might as well shove a pvc tubing up their rectum and stick the other end down their throats to make themselves self sufficient and stop bugging the middle and upper class folks.   :oeudC:
			
			
			
				A lot of antiprogs like myself had hoped the process would take care of this.  Violent leftists fascists would be arrested and the American public would see leftists fascist behavior and be so appalled that they would punish democrats with low approval numbers.  That is how it should work. 
Unfortunately its not working.  So what can be done? I just don't know.  its the subject of much debate ion antiprog websites.
			
			
			
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Unfortunately its not working.  So what can be done? I just don't know.  its the subject of much debate ion antiprog websites.
Tbh I'm kind of stumped too... and not sure what to do.  I assume the only way to fix this is encourage more people to become conservative and grateful of the benefits of living in the US, and let them know and understand the West will not last at this rate of migrants coming in, and will lose what they want and love so much.  I guess the only way is to be honest, rational, treat every American as an equal and let them know there's many great advantages of living in the West.  And just keep letting them know and eventually they'll be more and more grateful.  
Even though it's just from a sci-fi anime about wars and global/space conflict, but a really good anime called Gundam 00, one of its message that inspired me through out the whole series was "There can never be peace, without understanding".
			 
			
			
				There will be no understanding if we rely on politics and religion.
			
			
			
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Lol couldn't have nailed it any better.
			 
			
			
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Agreed. So what do we do?
			 
			
			
				Rely on ourselves.
We have the tools.
			
			
			
				Blame the victim and reward the libfascists
The council considered the removal of the star at a meeting on Monday evening. The agenda item read: "The City Council will consider adopting a resolution urging the Los Angeles City Council and Hollywood Chamber of Commerce to remove President Donald J. Trump's star from the Hollywood Walk of Fame, due to his disturbing treatment of women and other actions that do not meet the shared values of the City of West Hollywood, the region, state, and country" 
Following the meeting, a council rep emailed The Hollywood Reporter: "At this evening's regular City Council meeting,
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this is how the fascist prog footsoldier (the vandal) works hand in glove with the prog fascists in charge (the kangaroo counsel).  Don't let anyone tell you that prog vandalism, beatings ,threats and all are just random nobodies and there is no connection to the mainstream left.  No, this is an entire movement from top to bottom.  it includes the media, the democrat party, numerous celebs and other VIP progressives (like this kangaroo counsel) and all their foot soldiers.,  This is the modern left-- and they are vicious fascists.
			
			
			
				They should just fund a kiosk where Trump's Volunteer Army can guard his star 24/7.
			
			
			
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Agreed. So what do we do?
Quote from: "Bricktop"
We have the tools.
That still doesn't cut it .. just words. Change to the system will take many people and a direction
The way things are, I am not seeing a path to change
			 
			
			
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The other side has a bigger fund and they are more destructive..
But, of course you know that.
			 
			
			
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Sure.  Paid for by the democrat party, since its their people constantly vandalizing things.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
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Sure.  Paid for by the democrat party, since its their people constantly vandalizing things.
I like that. Make people like Peaches pay for it.
			 
			
			
				Evidently my use of the pronoun THEY was too nuanced for BC regulars to understand.
Here's a hint.  My usage was intended to suggest the reflexive form "themselves" as in 
                 
By "they" and "themselves" I refer to the party (Hollywood Chamber of Commerce) which has previously refused to remove Cosby's star because once awarded, the star is eternal.
As President Andrew Jackson once famously observed, "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
			
			
			
				I agree with Seoul and Wazzzup..
Make the vandals pay for it.
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I like that. Make people like Peaches pay for it.
He won't get that direct lanuage
think up a nuanced word or he won't get it -  and we want his money to pay for the vandalism
			 
			
			
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I like that. Make people like Peaches pay for it.
think up a nuanced word or he won't get it -  and we want his money to pay for the vandalism
He does that routinely when he doesn't like a post.
 ac_boring
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Here's a hint.  My usage was intended to suggest the reflexive form "themselves" as in 
                 
By "they" and "themselves" I refer to the party (Hollywood Chamber of Commerce) which has previously refused to remove Cosby's star because once awarded, the star is eternal.
As President Andrew Jackson once famously observed, "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
I have a better idea. Install a cctv camera over the star. Arrest any individual who breaks the law in the vicinity.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Here's a hint.  My usage was intended to suggest the reflexive form "themselves" as in 
                 
By "they" and "themselves" I refer to the party (Hollywood Chamber of Commerce) which has previously refused to remove Cosby's star because once awarded, the star is eternal.
As President Andrew Jackson once famously observed, "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
I have a better idea. Install a cctv camera over the star. Arrest any individual who breaks the law in the vicinity.
And send the bill for the cost of the cctv to the lawbreaker.
			 
			
			
				Of course!!!
I've been to that walk.
I'm astonished that someone could take a pickaxe to any part of it without being seen and deterred. Its not like its a back alley.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
I've been to that walk.
I'm astonished that someone could take a pickaxe to any part of it without being seen and deterred. Its not like its a back alley.
It's in Cali. If it's an anti prog like Trump, nobody including the cops will give a flying fuck.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
He carries a mace lipstick in his purse.
			 
			
			
				Looking at some of his positions, that's actually believable
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
He carries a mace lipstick in his purse.
It's not Mace, dude... Revlon Trendsetter.  I use it to highlight posts on the internet for the reading-impaired.
			 
			
			
				You actually frequent forums that have reading-impaired posters?
Really? 
Hmmm ... Not very picky where you post
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
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Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
He carries a mace lipstick in his purse.
It's not Mace, dude... Revlon Trendsetter.  I use it to highlight posts on the internet for effeminate gas bags like me who feign not understanding direct language
Fixed it for you twinkletoes.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Herman"
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Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
He carries a mace lipstick in his purse.
It's not Mace, dude... Revlon Trendsetter.  I use it to highlight posts on the internet for effeminate gas bags like me who feign not understanding direct language
Fixed it for you twinkletoes.
 :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Are you insane!!!
He's a stone cold KILLA!!!
The name peaches is not very terror inspiring.  :laugh3:
He carries a mace lipstick in his purse.
It's not Mace, dude... Revlon Trendsetter.  I use it to highlight posts on the internet for effeminate gas bags like me who feign not understanding direct language
Fixed it for you twinkletoes.
Quote edits are pretty high tech for a guy whose working day amounts to operating one lever.
			 
			
			
				Freud?
Is that you?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is that you?
I was going to say that sounds like a DD type insult.
			 
			
			
				Indeed it does.
Mmmm...I think an investigation is warranted.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Mmmm...I think an investigation is warranted.
I'll get to the bottom of it.
 :laugh:
			 
			
			
				It would certainly answer a LOT of questions...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Is that you?
I was going to say that sounds like a DD type insult.
Or Total Dumbass. He is as ignorant of freight trains operations as the snippy homo Peaches.
			 
			
			
				So, an unholy trinity...Freud, Peaches and Twenty Cents, all in one alt.
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
When certain people disagree with IHJ, they quickly call his job simple..
it's boring.
 ac_boring
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
When certain people disagree with IHJ, they quickly call his job simple..
it's boring.
 ac_boring
Aren't progressives supposed to be the champions of the working class? 
Apparently not.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
When certain people disagree with IHJ, they quickly call his job simple..
it's boring.
 ac_boring
I once flew a plane. I went for a joyride with him, and he suddenly took his hands off the controls and said "Its yours".
After the panic subsided, it was quite easy to turn, ascend and descend. Much like driving a train with a qualified driver, perhaps.
But finding my way to an airport, landing safely...and coping with the unforeseen...THAT'S why pilots and train drivers are licenced.
That does not mean I believe Freuds idiocy...just making the point that managing direction is the easy part.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
When certain people disagree with IHJ, they quickly call his job simple..
it's boring.
 ac_boring
I once flew a plane. I went for a joyride with him, and he suddenly took his hands off the controls and said "Its yours".
After the panic subsided, it was quite easy to turn, ascend and descend. Much like driving a train with a qualified driver, perhaps.
But finding my way to an airport, landing safely...and coping with the unforeseen...THAT'S why pilots and train drivers are licenced.
That does not mean I believe Freuds idiocy...just making the point that managing direction is the easy part.
It's a lot of responsibility.
			 
			
			
				
Fischer, the co-founder and editor-in-chief of livestreaming service News2Share, described that he followed a group of Antifa members, known as the Black Bloc, as they broke off from the main demonstrations at Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park.
"From across the street, I was able to film and zoom in really tight," said Fischer, who added that 
"Frankly, I have no doubt that I would have been hurt had I not left," he told Fox News' Sandra Smith.
Berkeley Police said 20 people were arrested at the dueling demonstrations between Antifa and members of the so-called "alt-right." Three people suffered minor injuries after a group of demonstrators threw "explosives" — believed to be fireworks and flares — at police and Alameda County Sheriff's officers.
yeah the left warns us that the "alt right" is soooooooo scary scary scary.  But at everyone of these things Antifa are the ones insisting only they have the right to speak and assemble, and they are nearly always the ones vandalising and committing acts of violence.
			
			
			
				Cowardly antifa filth sucker punches and runs then another pepper sprays the victim
https://twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa7/status/1026015575045095424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1026015575045095424&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fus%2F2018%2F08%2F06%2Fantifa-members-in-berkeley-smash-windows-us-marine-corps-recruiting-office-during-protest.html
Members of antifa smash windows of marine recruiting office
https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1026255134886514689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1026255134886514689&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fus%2F2018%2F08%2F06%2Fantifa-members-in-berkeley-smash-windows-us-marine-corps-recruiting-office-during-protest.html
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
When certain people disagree with IHJ, they quickly call his job simple..
it's boring.
 ac_boring
Aren't progressives supposed to be the champions of the working class? 
Apparently not.
No group has inflicted more damage on the working class in North America the way prog scumbags like Peaches have. They've even hijacked the organized labour movement and put prog shills in leadership positions who work against the interests of paid members.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
yeah the left warns us that the "alt right" is soooooooo scary scary scary.  But at everyone of these things Antifa are the ones insisting only they have the right to speak and assemble, and they are nearly always the ones vandalising and committing acts of violence.
The real tragedy is that these are kids being manipulated by puppet masters in tertiary education institutions. 
Clueless, indoctrinated brats with a mob mentality, being spurned on by the truly dangerous communists embedded as educators.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Makes more and more sense as the duplicity unravels.
When certain people disagree with IHJ, they quickly call his job simple..
it's boring.
 ac_boring
Aren't progressives supposed to be the champions of the working class? 
Apparently not.
No group has inflicted more damage on the working class in North America the way prog scumbags like Peaches have. They've even hijacked the organized labour movement and put prog shills in leadership positions who work against the interests of paid members.
Carbon taxes, big green energy taxpayer subsidies, blocking resource development, artificially high electricity bills, pandering to big enviro NGO's, rising fees, taxes, regulatory obstructionsm, mass refugee acceptance, and a bloated and out of touch civil service. Progtards are at war with Western working people.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
The real tragedy is that these are kids being manipulated by puppet masters in tertiary education institutions. 
Clueless, indoctrinated brats with a mob mentality, being spurned on by the truly dangerous communists embedded as educators.
Exactly, and these kids "think" they are doing the right thing.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
The real tragedy is that these are kids being manipulated by puppet masters in tertiary education institutions. 
Clueless, indoctrinated brats with a mob mentality, being spurned on by the truly dangerous communists embedded as educators.
Exactly, and these kids "think"
I don't think they do. Someone is doing their thinking for them.
			 
			
			
				Programming  .. as you already said "Clueless, indoctrinated brats with a mob mentality, being spurned on by the truly dangerous communists embedded as educators"
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
yeah the left warns us that the "alt right" is soooooooo scary scary scary.  But at everyone of these things Antifa are the ones insisting only they have the right to speak and assemble, and they are nearly always the ones vandalising and committing acts of violence.
The real tragedy is that these are kids being manipulated by puppet masters in tertiary education institutions. 
Clueless, indoctrinated brats with a mob mentality, being spurned on by the truly dangerous communists embedded as educators.
So what is to be done?
I believe a certain Austrian gentleman warned us about this sort of thing back in the 1930's, but unfortunately our ancestors didn't listen......
			 
			
			
				Shining the light of reason on the irrational is very therapeutic.
Let's be honest, for all their blustering and belligerency, these snotlings aren't achieving a great deal, other than highlighting the folly of their ideology.
The majority of people aren't taking much notice of their antics.
			
			
			
				[size=150]Antifa fascists at Berkeley smash several car windows and light SUV on fire[/size]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZp--N7WtyY
			
			
			
				ANTIFA is more loathed by the public nowadays than any so called 'far right' groups, despite the constant mass media hysteria and demonisation of the latter, and it really isn't hard to see why.
			
			
			
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Have the police laid charges against the violent anarchists who did this?
			 
			
			
				I wonder what the SPLC or ADL say about ANTIFA? Do they ever condemn their violence? Heck what am I saying, these organisations probably fund them, along with Soros and co.....
			
			
			
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Not even the American Democratic Party will condemn their violence, so I wouldn't expect similar organizations to Antifa to condemn their brothers in arms.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SCOUSE"
Not even the American Democratic Party will condemn their violence, so I wouldn't expect similar organizations to Antifa to condemn their brothers in arms.
The US Democratic party has become the political arm of brown shirt prog fascist violence.
			 
			
			
				Tex-Mex Diner Faces Death Threats for Feeding Jeff Sessions
https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/muy-loco-tex-mex-diner-faces-death-threats-for-feeding-jeff-sessions/
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El Tiempo Cantina posted a photograph of chef Domenic Laurenzo alongside the attorney general with a message noting what an honor it was to serve Sessions.
It wasn't long before a mob of angry trolls descended on the beloved local restaurant – demanding apologies and calling for a boycott.
The hate and vitriol became so severe the restaurant owners shut down their social media pages.
"People are insulting us in such a dramatic fashion, and we feel like we don't deserve it," owner Roland Laurenzo told ABC 13. "At least temporarily I had it taken down because I don't want to be insulted, my children to be insulted, my family to be insulted."
He also wrote a message explaining that the restaurant was not making any kind of political statement.
"The man came to dinner and he was served without us even thinking about the political situations," he wrote. "The only thing on our minds was serving great food and giving great customer service."
And now they've become the victims of a rampaging mob of anti-Trump haters.
"We have gotten so many complaints and comments," he told television station KHOU. "And threats, death threats. This has been extremely shocking to our family."
Rep. Maxine Waters and Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin must be so proud of their goon squad.
The left loves minorities (in this case Hispanics) as long as they toe the liberal plantation line, if not  they will rip them to pieces.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/muy-loco-tex-mex-diner-faces-death-threats-for-feeding-jeff-sessions/
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El Tiempo Cantina posted a photograph of chef Domenic Laurenzo alongside the attorney general with a message noting what an honor it was to serve Sessions.
It wasn't long before a mob of angry trolls descended on the beloved local restaurant – demanding apologies and calling for a boycott.
The hate and vitriol became so severe the restaurant owners shut down their social media pages.
"People are insulting us in such a dramatic fashion, and we feel like we don't deserve it," owner Roland Laurenzo told ABC 13. "At least temporarily I had it taken down because I don't want to be insulted, my children to be insulted, my family to be insulted."
He also wrote a message explaining that the restaurant was not making any kind of political statement.
"The man came to dinner and he was served without us even thinking about the political situations," he wrote. "The only thing on our minds was serving great food and giving great customer service."
And now they've become the victims of a rampaging mob of anti-Trump haters.
"We have gotten so many complaints and comments," he told television station KHOU. "And threats, death threats. This has been extremely shocking to our family."
Rep. Maxine Waters and Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin must be so proud of their goon squad.
The left loves minorities (in this case Hispanics) as long as they toe the liberal plantation line, if not  they will rip them to pieces.
Jesus Christ, progs keep getting nuttier.
			 
			
			
				I think its time to right a wrong.
Calling these thugs "fascists" is a dangerous misnomer...as it attributes to them a belief system that is utterly incongruous.
They are communists. They only distinguish from the former extreme embodied by the Soviet Union in that they replace "workers" in their manifesto with "immigrants and non-whites".
They regard themselves as "revolutionaries" and justify their violence in exactly the same way as communist agitators did; violence is the ONLY way to defeat capitalist dictatorship.
			
			
			
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Calling these thugs "fascists" is a dangerous misnomer...as it attributes to them a belief system that is utterly incongruous.
They are communists. They only distinguish from the former extreme embodied by the Soviet Union in that they replace "workers" in their manifesto with "immigrants and non-whites".
They regard themselves as "revolutionaries" and justify their violence in exactly the same way as communist agitators did; violence is the ONLY way to defeat capitalist dictatorship.
I think you're right and, that was what I tried to explain to peaches-- that the old marxism was workers versus capitalists and the new marxism is minorities against non whites 
So I agree 100% with that aspect.  
The problem is calling them communists has little impact.  In spite of communism killing way more than German and Italian fascism did, people don't have a visceral response to that charge, because Hitler and nazism takes up all the oxygen in the room.  
There are some good reasons to call them fascists-
As mentioned, it has greater impact and grabs people's attention
Their tactics are fascist in nature, they are behaving like Hitler's brownshirts
These days fascism has becoming synonymous with totalitarianism and authoritarianism, i.e., forcing people to do things.
When it comes down to it, totalitarian systems are not that different from each other  
Their views are much like nazis racial views in mirror image.  Instead of whites at the top of the pyramid, for prognazis, it is everybody against whites. 
(although to Hitler it was germans at the top)
			 
			
			
				Fascist tactics were actually quite different. Their "brown shirts" were not rabble rousing student brats, but a properly organised and managed intimidatory force intended to brutalise opponents, specifically Jews.
Street riots, civil disturbances and "people power" are tools of the left, with it's origins dating back to the French revolution...then copied by the Russians. Communists do not call their community based lieutenants "activists" for nothing. They are required to activate social disruption and unrest. It is the primary tool of the LEFT. It is why you won't see the same conduct from the right...it is not in their DNA. Activists were often called "rabble rousers", as their job was to forment street riots by "rabble" (as opposed to the highly organised street thuggery of the right). The fascist "brown shirts" were more often than not used to forcibly attack socialist driven street protests.
Communism is premised on civil insurrection from the "working" class, who have no other option because the ruling class ignores them...or so Marx proposed.
Communism depends on civil instability and fear to whip the "masses" into a frenzy that spearheads a forcible takeover of government.
This is not a tactic employed by the right. 
This "antifa" mob is organised in the true socialist manner. Take over the streets, take down the government. They use old school socialist tactics. There is nothing new here. Their strategy is pure Communism, with a different downtrodden class as their raison d'etre.
Nor is it spontaneous. This rise of leftist extremism has been a long time coming...but they are nothing if not patient...again, a socialist trait. They play a long game. 
They will not go away quietly, if history is any guide. Within their ranks, psychotic sociopaths gather the more extreme around them, seeking ways of using the most extremes of violence against their enemy.
			
			
			
				Commies and fascist despite claiming to hate each other are very similar.
			
			
			
				They share similar economic models, but their political structures are different.
Communism is centered on a global imperative. Marx postulated that communism would dominate the world, and only THEN would a "worker's paradise" become reality. Communism's enemy was Capitalism.
Fascism is more nationally or racially based. It focusses on achieving a national supremacy over other nations (or "race"). 
Marx claimed that Communism and Capitalism cannot co-exist in the world. Hitler simply wanted German superiority over other nations.
They were implemented quite differently. Hitler was elected and asked to form a Government. The extreme right tends to subvert the political system to claim some form of legitimacy, whereas the left claim legitimacy from acting for a just and noble "cause" (worker's rights, racial equality yada yada yada). Right wing dictators also tend to seduce the military into siding with them, offering a share of power to assist in taking and keeping political power. The left also try to engage the military, but this is much harder in modern times with most militaries well equipped and well paid. 
But at the end of the day, a dictatorship is a dictatorship, regardless of the colour of its flag.
Our dilemma is that the greater the civil unrest, the more likely a dictatorship will emerge "In the interests of national safety and security".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0El3Dqk0wfU
			
			
			
				I know communism is global, but fascism seeks strategic alliances too.
			
			
			
				The goal of communism is global domination of socialism, where no other socio-political system can (and in their view, should, exist).
Fascism tends to be more confined to a nation or race. Hitler only wanted dominion over white states, because he believed that the white race was superior and wanted no truck with non-whites, other than as a means to his own end. If Japan wanted Asia, and kept America out of his hair, he was happy to oblige.
But, I repeat, one asshole is the same as another asshole if they rule by force.
			
			
			
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Fascism tends to be more confined to a nation or race. Hitler only wanted dominion over white states, because he believed that the white race was superior and wanted no truck with non-whites, other than as a means to his own end. If Japan wanted Asia, and kept America out of his hair, he was happy to oblige.
But, I repeat, one asshole is the same as another asshole if they rule by force.
In the early days, Chiang Kai Shek and Mao were allies..
Even though Chiang was an ultra nationalist and Mao a communist they agreed on many things.
			 
			
			
				A union of convenience...the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Mao was very adept at keeping his friends close...and his enemies closer.
			
			
			
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Mao was very adept at keeping his friends close...and his enemies closer.
He was ultimately slicker than Chiang.
			 
			
			
				He was psychotic and a megalomaniac. What he did to the Chinese people is a crime against humanity.
			
			
			
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That is very true.
			 
			
			
				Bernie sanders supporter brought an American flag to protest fascism in Portland. Then antifa attacked him
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/08/he_brought_an_american_flag_to.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
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Soon a group of black-clad anti-fascist protesters, also known as antifa, demanded he lose the flag, calling it a fascist symbol. Welch refused, and a tug-of-war ensued.  It ended with Welch taking a club to the back of the head, lying on the ground in a pool of his own blood.
  While its entertaining to see progtards eat one of their own.  its just more evidence to show antifa is not "antifascist" they are a group that advocates violence against anyone end everyone who even APPEARS to disagree with them  They are vicious, dangerous thugs,.
			 
			
			
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/08/he_brought_an_american_flag_to.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
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Soon a group of black-clad anti-fascist protesters, also known as antifa, demanded he lose the flag, calling it a fascist symbol. Welch refused, and a tug-of-war ensued.  It ended with Welch taking a club to the back of the head, lying on the ground in a pool of his own blood.
  While its entertaining to see progtards eat one of their own.  its just more evidence to show antifa is not "antifascist" they are a group that advocates violence against anyone end everyone who even APPEARS to disagree with them  They are vicious, dangerous thugs,.
I would like to think charges were laid, but if that did not happen, I would not be surprised.
			 
			
			
				What did he hit him with, a rolled up flag? 
Regardless, the American left is a rabid animal which needs putting down. 
We can thank the mainstream media and universities for indoctrinating these kids with Marxist crap. 
I have long been saying that there needs to be an investigation into what gets taught in western academia.
			
			
			
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Regardless, the American left is a rabid animal which needs putting down. 
We can thank the mainstream media and universities for indoctrinating these kids with Marxist crap. 
I have long been saying that there needs to be an investigation into what gets taught in western academia.
I agree with all that!
Looked like a short baseball bat, prolly metal, rolled up in a shirt or something to conceal it.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/08/he_brought_an_american_flag_to.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
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Soon a group of black-clad anti-fascist protesters, also known as antifa, demanded he lose the flag, calling it a fascist symbol. Welch refused, and a tug-of-war ensued.  It ended with Welch taking a club to the back of the head, lying on the ground in a pool of his own blood.
  While its entertaining to see progtards eat one of their own.  its just more evidence to show antifa is not "antifascist" they are a group that advocates violence against anyone end everyone who even APPEARS to disagree with them  They are vicious, dangerous thugs,.
I would like to think charges were laid, but if that did not happen, I would not be surprised.
Because these people wear face covering they get away with it.  that should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago.  No one should be allowed to cover their faces at protests.
			 
			
			
				The police don't enforce the law because the assailants wore masks?
 ac_wot
			
			
			
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 ac_wot
Sometimes they can catch them anyway, but it makes it much harder when you don't have a face to identify.  which is why they wear masks, and IMO shouldn't be allowed to.
but then again they let a lot of people off too.
You can bet if the right were wearing masks and beating people and there were a democrat president anybody wearing a mask would be arrested and jailed for years.
			 
			
			
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 ac_wot
Sometimes they can catch them anyway, but it makes it much harder when you don't have a face to identify.  which is why they wear masks, and IMO shouldn't be allowed to.
If the police see them assaulting people, arrest them and take their masks off.
			 
			
			
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Canada has recently dealt with this exact issue...  Nobody here really has a problem with it, since it really only affects groups like the antifa scum.
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Canada has recently dealt with this exact issue...  Nobody here really has a problem with it, since it really only affects groups like the antifa scum.
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I know that is not always enforced.
			 
			
			
				The scum are carrying shields and weapons.
Where are the cops?
That shit would be stamped out in short order here.
			
			
			
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Where are the cops?
That shit would be stamped out in short order here.
I can't believe the police are not enforcing the law.
			 
			
			
				It would seem they are being manipulated by politicians as well.
A hard rain is going to fall...
			
			
			
				Sometimes the cops are told to stand down, this has happened a few times where antifa has gotten out of control because democrat governors and mayors told the police not to arrest antifa.  Sometimes antifa people are arrested and then released that day or the next instead of being charged.  some are arrested over and over and never spend any time in jail for it.
This is incredibly frustrating, and terrible for our wellbeing.  if antifa goes around beating people for having opinions they don't like, that is a direct threat to democracy, and they need to be held accountable.  But they are not being held accountable, which is one of the big reasons why our democracy is in danger .
			
			
			
				For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
This is incredibly frustrating, and terrible for our wellbeing.  if antifa goes around beating people for having opinions they don't like, that is a direct threat to democracy, and they need to be held accountable.  But they are not being held accountable, which is one of the big reasons why our democracy is in danger .
What would happen if Republican governors told the police to stand down at a KKK rally?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
This is incredibly frustrating, and terrible for our wellbeing.  if antifa goes around beating people for having opinions they don't like, that is a direct threat to democracy, and they need to be held accountable.  But they are not being held accountable, which is one of the big reasons why our democracy is in danger .
What would happen if Republican governors told the police to stand down at a KKK rally?
The Jews in the ADL and SPLC would lose their shit and western mainstream media would be filled with stories about how the US government is filled with 'nazis'.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
This is incredibly frustrating, and terrible for our wellbeing.  if antifa goes around beating people for having opinions they don't like, that is a direct threat to democracy, and they need to be held accountable.  But they are not being held accountable, which is one of the big reasons why our democracy is in danger .
What would happen if Republican governors told the police to stand down at a KKK rally?
The Jews in the ADL and SPLC would lose their shit and western mainstream media would be filled with stories about how the US government is filled with 'nazis'.
You mean the blacks who identify with BLM like Al Sharpton. But, the most shrill would be white liberals. Even moderate whites would be pulling their hair out.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
This is incredibly frustrating, and terrible for our wellbeing.  if antifa goes around beating people for having opinions they don't like, that is a direct threat to democracy, and they need to be held accountable.  But they are not being held accountable, which is one of the big reasons why our democracy is in danger .
I seem to recall not long ago, possibly after that Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville last year, where several feral elements of ANTIFA were being rightfully brought to Justice for their actions and they were crying like bitches online about not having their wrists slapped any more and instead were receiving hefty sentences and being prosecuted for their behaviour.
			 
			
			
				https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/wyoming-gop-office-fire/
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The fire damaged the building's interior but was otherwise limited thanks to a passerby who called authorities, McKay said.
The damage from the fire could have been far worse, McKay said, noting that someone lives in an apartment directly above the Republican office.
The Wyoming GOP office is just the latest Republican office to be vandalized.
Vandals in Nebraska threw a brick through the window of a local GOP office in July. They left behind a spray-painted message: "ABOLISH ICE."
A North Carolina GOP office was firebombed a month before the 2016 election, and a building adjacent to it was spray-painted with graffiti: "Nazi Republicans get out of town or else."

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				How soon before shots are fired...
			
			
			
				
[size=150]'Where's John Wilkes Booth when you need him?'[/size]
			
			
			
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Another of several hollywood hatemongers who called for trump's assassination. (kathy Griffin, Jim Carrey, Madonna, Johnny Depp and more)  Even though this carole cook is an old bat, she ought to get a visit from the secret service.
			 
			
			
				Threatening a head of State should be, and probably is, a crime.
			
			
			
				yes it is a crime.  IMO anyone doing so should at least get talked to if not charged.  trump has been too lenient about insisting on that. I think the left are deliberately trying to to incite one of their hate filled wackos to kill Trump. Its needs to be shown firmly that such talk is unacceptable.    
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Waters then said Trump had accused her of threatening his constituents. She joked, "I did not threaten his constituents, his supporters. I do that all the time, but I didn't do it that time."[/quote]
On impeaching trump and "getting Pence" next
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"I had a conversation here today with someone asked, 'Well, what about Pence? If you are able to impeach, Pence will be worse,'" she recollected. "Well, I said, 'Look, one at a time.' "You knock one down, one at a time," she said. "You knock one down, and we'll be ready for Pence. We'll get him, too," she vowed.
			 
			
			
				It is no trivial matter.
Inciting violence or death against a President in a land filled with whackos and guns, and whackos WITH guns is surely a matter of legal action.
Speaking out is one thing...suggesting lethal violence is a valid response to a duly elected politician is quite another.
They should be prosecuted...as should anyone who proposes violence as a political tool. But as we know, the use of violence is in the left's DNA.
			
			
			
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Inciting violence or death against a President in a land filled with whackos and guns, and whackos WITH guns is surely a matter of legal action.
Speaking out is one thing...suggesting lethal violence is a valid response to a duly elected politician is quite another.
They should be prosecuted...as should anyone who proposes violence as a political tool. But as we know, the use of violence is in the left's DNA.
Maxine Waters should be impeached.
Impeach Maxine Waters
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-senate-impeach-maxine-waters
			 
			
			
				Why?
Just arrest the dopey bitch and charge her with incitement.
If convicted, she loses her seat anyway.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Just arrest the dopey bitch and charge her with incitement.
If convicted, she loses her seat anyway.
That is the frickin problem. The cops won't do that, so it falls to the people to get her antifa loving ass out.
			 
			
			
				That bitch is certifiable.
Maybe a doctor will institutionalise her, then. 
Who VOTED for this rampant lunatic anyway??
			
			
			
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Maybe a doctor will institutionalise her, then. 
Who VOTED for this rampant lunatic anyway??
 She represents an area that is all black and has massive crime problems and other dysfunction.  (even though she lives in a 4.5 million dollar mansion outside of her district) They have been voting her nearly 30 years.
this is her 4.5 million dollar mansion

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this is her district

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				Where the hell did she get the money for that crib?
Graft?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Maybe a doctor will institutionalise her, then. 
Who VOTED for this rampant lunatic anyway??
 She represents an area that is all black and has massive crime problems and other dysfunction.  (even though she lives in a 4.5 million dollar mansion outside of her district) They have been voting her nearly 30 years.
this is her 4.5 million dollar mansion

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this is her district

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Quote from: "cc"
Another of several hollywood hatemongers who called for trump's assassination. (kathy Griffin, Jim Carrey, Madonna, Johnny Depp and more)  Even though this carole cook is an old bat, she ought to get a visit from the secret service.
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, thinking he was along the lines of humor as myself, and Robin Williams. But lately I cant look up to him anymore the way he is carrying on.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "cc"
Another of several hollywood hatemongers who called for trump's assassination. (kathy Griffin, Jim Carrey, Madonna, Johnny Depp and more)  Even though this carole cook is an old bat, she ought to get a visit from the secret service.
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, thinking he was along the lines of humor as myself, and Robin Williams. But lately I cant look up to him anymore the way he is carrying on.
Same here.,  I especially liked Carrey on in living color, but now I'm done with him.  there are some hollywood people who have become so extreme in their politics that I just can't watch them anymore.  Especially the ones that have advocated violence like Carrey, DeNiro and Depp.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "cc"
Another of several hollywood hatemongers who called for trump's assassination. (kathy Griffin, Jim Carrey, Madonna, Johnny Depp and more)  Even though this carole cook is an old bat, she ought to get a visit from the secret service.
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, thinking he was along the lines of humor as myself, and Robin Williams. But lately I cant look up to him anymore the way he is carrying on.
Same here.,  I especially liked Carrey on in living color, but now I'm done with him.  there are some hollywood people who have become so extreme in their politics that I just can't watch them anymore.  Especially the ones that have advocated violence like Carrey, DeNiro and Depp.
In Living Color days were the best  :thumbup:
			 
			
			
				Advocating for someone to be killed because you don't like politics. :crazy:
			
			
			
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Yes its crazy, but insane is the new normal for progtards.
			 
			
			
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I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
"Looking up" to actors makes no sense. They may have skills in pretending to be something they're not, some moreso than others, but they are usually overpaid, overhyped and overvalued through silly celebrity worship.
Fame is a cruel mistress...it turns good people into assholes.
			 
			
			
				
The suspect then fled the scene, but was detained a short time later by deputies. He was found in possession of a switchblade knife.
Fazeli was arrested for felony assault, criminal threats, brandishing a weapon and possession of a switchblade knife and booked into Santa Rita Jail.
No one was seriously injured during the incident. The case has been forwarded to the District Attorney.
On Tuesday, Swalwell posted on Twitter about the attack, saying he was "glad to hear Mr. Peters is okay." He also discouraged the use of violence in any disagreement, political or otherwise.[/quote]
			
			
			
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I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
We encourage our children to have better role models than actors, musicians and athletes.
			 
			
			
				Whilst that is wise...it falls down when you encourage them to look up to imaginary deities. That is even worse.
			
			
			
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We don't do that.
			 
			
			
				Good.
			
			
			
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The one and true God only.....no imaginary deities.
			 
			
			
				Yeah, see...that's where we differ.
			
			
			
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We're all different.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Vive la difference...
			
			
			
				Big week so far for trump hating, prognazi wackos.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6157305/DC-police-respond-mass-shooting-threat-MAGA-event-Trump-Hotel.html
And of course as I mentioned before 
[size=150]Man with a switchblade screaming about trump  tried to stab a republican state senator to death[/size]
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/09/11/man-assaults-republican-congressional-candidate-switchblade-castro-valley/
			
			
			
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Now THAT'S a gun policy I can get behind...(almost)...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wazzzup"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6157305/DC-police-respond-mass-shooting-threat-MAGA-event-Trump-Hotel.html
And of course as I mentioned before 
Mass hysteria.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
"Looking up" to actors makes no sense. They may have skills in pretending to be something they're not, some moreso than others, but they are usually overpaid, overhyped and overvalued through silly celebrity worship.
Fame is a cruel mistress...it turns good people into assholes.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
We encourage our children to have better role models than actors, musicians and athletes.
I didnt mean as a role model, lord no lol. I just meant he has a similar style humor to myself, and I use to want to be like that "on the acting stage". Robin Williams was another I liked.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
"Looking up" to actors makes no sense. They may have skills in pretending to be something they're not, some moreso than others, but they are usually overpaid, overhyped and overvalued through silly celebrity worship.
Fame is a cruel mistress...it turns good people into assholes.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
We encourage our children to have better role models than actors, musicians and athletes.
I didnt mean as a role model, lord no lol. I just meant he has a similar style humor to myself, and I use to want to be like that "on the acting stage". Robin Williams was another I liked.
Do you have a desire to be a performer Blazor?
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
"Looking up" to actors makes no sense. They may have skills in pretending to be something they're not, some moreso than others, but they are usually overpaid, overhyped and overvalued through silly celebrity worship.
Fame is a cruel mistress...it turns good people into assholes.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
I use to look up to Jim Carrey, 
We encourage our children to have better role models than actors, musicians and athletes.
I didnt mean as a role model, lord no lol. I just meant he has a similar style humor to myself, and I use to want to be like that "on the acting stage". Robin Williams was another I liked.
Do you have a desire to be a performer Blazor?
To a degree yes. I love to make people laugh and smile. Im also a weird lil goofy goober mixed with some zaniness lol. I've always wanted to become a comedic actor kinda like Jim/Robin. I use to think stand up, but one has to have a routine. Most of my comedy is in the moment. I also can do a ton of impersonations.
			 
			
			
				Have you been involved in theater Blazor?
			
			
			
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Do Uncle Dilf!!!
Do Uncle Dilf!!!
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Never have, but in English class I surprised the class when we all had to say parts, my turn came, and I half startled them all out their seats lol. Then the teacher highly suggested me for drama. But back then if you did drama you was a sissy or some shit lol. Wish I had now. But I know its not too late!
			 
			
			
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Do Uncle Dilf!!!
Do Uncle Dilf!!!
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You shut your whore mouth you filth cocksucker. Go bathe yourself in shit mixed with corn and peanuts til you exfoliate your skin and your insides are full of yummy poo poo. You are the little Beta fish and I am the Alpha shark, bow (or flex your fin) for the great Dilf!
Like that?  :laugh:
			 
			
			
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Never have, but in English class I surprised the class when we all had to say parts, my turn came, and I half startled them all out their seats lol. Then the teacher highly suggested me for drama. But back then if you did drama you was a sissy or some shit lol. Wish I had now. But I know its not too late!
If you do become a successful actor will you lecture all of us little people how to live?
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				lol
I think he's hang out with the Clint Eastwoods and Jon Voights ... and encourage us to make our own decisions for our lives
			
			
			
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I think he's hang out with the Clint Eastwoods and Jon Voights ... and encourage us to make our own decisions for our lives
That would "make my day".
			 
			
			
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Never have, but in English class I surprised the class when we all had to say parts, my turn came, and I half startled them all out their seats lol. Then the teacher highly suggested me for drama. But back then if you did drama you was a sissy or some shit lol. Wish I had now. But I know its not too late!
If you do become a successful actor will you lecture all of us little people how to live?
 :laugh:
Lol, I AM little people lol. When I was younger I didnt want to be rich, just be happy, make a living, and have some fun. Seems always a struggle just to achieve those things sometimes, but I make do lol. This Seattle trip was a treat.
			 
			
			
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Never have, but in English class I surprised the class when we all had to say parts, my turn came, and I half startled them all out their seats lol. Then the teacher highly suggested me for drama. But back then if you did drama you was a sissy or some shit lol. Wish I had now. But I know its not too late!
If you do become a successful actor will you lecture all of us little people how to live?
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Waddya mean, "us little people"?
I'm not a little people!!!
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I think he's hang out with the Clint Eastwoods and Jon Voights ... and encourage us to make our own decisions for our lives
That would "make my day".
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				"Scrap the caddy, Clive".
			
			
			
				[size=150]Antifa calls for Murdering ICE agents and their patrol dogs[/size]
https://pjmedia.com/trending/antifa-website-calls-for-slaughter-of-fascistic-border-patrol-dogs-and-their-bosses/
https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-compares-ice-gestapo-fighting-fire-fire-1134607
They say they are "antifascist" --and because of this--they get to decide who is fascist (anyone who disagrees with them) and they get to decide the punishment-- usually beatings, or in this case, mass murder.  Sounds more like fascism than antifascism to me.
Either way these guys are some nasty, dangerous assholes, and a threat to America's well being.  No wonder the left likes them.
			
			
			
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And worst of all they get away with it.
			 
			
			
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And worst of all they get away with it.
they do.  If the antiprogs did stuff like this there would be hell to pay for it somehow the prognazis always seem to get away with this stuff.
			 
			
			
				More manhating
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/27/brett-kavanaugh-hearing-capitol-849336
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 Who are the sexists again????
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And more doxxing to enable harassment of republicans like Ted Cruz was at the DC restaurant
All three senators sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and their personal information was posted shortly after each questioned Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh during Thursday's hearing.[/quote]
Some hate inspired democrat already tried to shoot republicans on a baseball field another stabbed a republican with a malfunctioning switch blade.  Some loony prognazi is going to kill a republican soon.
			 
			
			
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/27/brett-kavanaugh-hearing-capitol-849336
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And more doxxing to enable harassment of republicans like Ted Cruz was at the DC restaurant
Republican Senators Doxxed by someone in the house shortly after questioning Kavanaugh
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/27/lindsey-graham-mike-lee-orrin-hatch-personal-information-doxxed-wikipedia/
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All three senators sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and their personal information was posted shortly after each questioned Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh during Thursday's hearing.
Some hate inspired democrat already tried to shoot republicans on a baseball field another stabbed a republican with a malfunctioning switch blade.  Some loony prognazi is going to kill a republican soon.
What is happening to the USA. Guilty until proven innocent, brown shirt violence and intimidation of certain political opinions is tolerated. Ya, logically the next step is murder.
			 
			
			
				Progs are NOT Nazis!!!
AAAGGGHHHHHH!!!!
They are socialists, communists or anarchists. Calling them "fascists" is giving the scourge of socialism a free pass. 
It's SOCIALISM that's eating us alive, NOT fascism.
			
			
			
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AAAGGGHHHHHH!!!!
They are socialists, communists or anarchists. Calling them "fascists" is giving the scourge of socialism a free pass. 
It's SOCIALISM that's eating us alive, NOT fascism.
But, who says they both can't use violence and intimidation.
			 
			
			
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AAAGGGHHHHHH!!!!
They are socialists, communists or anarchists. Calling them "fascists" is giving the scourge of socialism a free pass. 
It's SOCIALISM that's eating us alive, NOT fascism.
But, who says they both can't use violence and intimidation.
Right, they have at least  that much in common with nazis.  Antifa behaves exactly like Hitler's brownshirts.  And as I pointed the modern lefts racialization of everything-- treating black millionaires as victims, and treating poor whites like garbage is a racialized divergence that is nazilike, and not at all consistent with traditional communism/socialism class struggle ideology.
We also need to remember that totalitarian philosophies have a lot in common.  Hitler murdered Millions, stalin murdered millions Mao did too and they used many of the same tactics.  That is not giving them a free pass, if anything they are being held more accountable by being compared to nazis.
			 
			
			
				
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/breaking-ip-address-of-person-who-doxxed-gop-senators-points-to-maxine-waters-office/
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It appears 4plebs found the culprit and she works in Maxine Waters's office. The 4plebs users then appear to agree that the IP address came from Waters's office but may not be from Sengstock.
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[size=150]The justice editor of a liberal website named Think Progress, advocates "confronting republicans where they sleep"
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https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1045740430229409793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1045740430229409793&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F100percentfedup.com%2Fleftist-editor-asks-about-confronting-republicans-where-they-sleep%2F
the democrats and left keep escalating because they are rarely if ever held to account (largely because of a sycophantic media), Someone will be killed soon because of it .  Certainly attempts have been made.  Maybe that's what they want???
BTW his tweet to me is a perfect example of Freudian projection.  He accuses republicans of destroying democracy (and how are they doing that??) when the act of harassing politicians with angry mobs outside of their work environment is, in many ways, an effort to destroy democracy.
			 
			
			
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/breaking-ip-address-of-person-who-doxxed-gop-senators-points-to-maxine-waters-office/
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It appears 4plebs found the culprit and she works in Maxine Waters's office. The 4plebs users then appear to agree that the IP address came from Waters's office but may not be from Sengstock.
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That is really rich of Ian Millhiser.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Bricktop"
AAAGGGHHHHHH!!!!
They are socialists, communists or anarchists. Calling them "fascists" is giving the scourge of socialism a free pass. 
It's SOCIALISM that's eating us alive, NOT fascism.
But, who says they both can't use violence and intimidation.
Violence and intimidation do not define political ideologies. Most have used it to some degree. Remember, it was the Jews that first used terrorism to oust the British from Palestine. 
But the error here is that because they use violence, they must be "fascists", and that is absurdly wrong. Violence, uprising, resistance and civil disruption are the hallmarks of socialism, stemming from its origins as a REVOLUTIONARY movement. That is to say that Marxism sanctifies violence and insurrection as a valid means to implement the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Socialists believe and accept that violence is a LEGITIMATE means of gaining political power. This extends to civil disobedience from both without AND within the workings of government, as we are seeing exposed in the US.
Whilst fascism shares some commonality with socialism, it is not, in fact, a formalised political doctrine in the same was socialism is defined. You cannot find writings, texts, books and speakers extolling the virtues of "fascism", whilst Marx, Lenin and many others have tried to validate socialism as a legitimate and just political ideology though texts and other channels.
Socialism is insidious and subversive, and the rabble that is attacking our societies are socialists, NOT fascists.
			 
			
			
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AAAGGGHHHHHH!!!!
They are socialists, communists or anarchists. Calling them "fascists" is giving the scourge of socialism a free pass. 
It's SOCIALISM that's eating us alive, NOT fascism.
But, who says they both can't use violence and intimidation.
Violence and intimidation do not define political ideologies. Most have used it to some degree. Remember, it was the Jews that first used terrorism to oust the British from Palestine. 
But the error here is that because they use violence, they must be "fascists", and that is absurdly wrong. Violence, uprising, resistance and civil disruption are the hallmarks of socialism, stemming from its origins as a REVOLUTIONARY movement. That is to say that Marxism sanctifies violence and insurrection as a valid means to implement the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Socialists believe and accept that violence is a LEGITIMATE means of gaining political power. This extends to civil disobedience from both without AND within the workings of government, as we are seeing exposed in the US.
Whilst fascism shares some commonality with socialism, it is not, in fact, a formalised political doctrine in the same was socialism is defined. You cannot find writings, texts, books and speakers extolling the virtues of "fascism", whilst Marx, Lenin and many others have tried to validate socialism as a legitimate and just political ideology though texts and other channels.
Socialism is insidious and subversive, and the rabble that is attacking our societies are socialists, NOT fascists.
how is it giving them a pass?  You call someone a communist or a socialist and most people will roll their eyes.  You talk about Hitler and Nazis, and people are conditioned to listen.
As I pointed out the modern left has racialized their politics much like the nazis,.  that is not consistent with prior forms of Socialism/communism which were always the worker class against the haves.  
Hitler's Brownshirts used insurrection and intimidation of politicians and citizens to tear down the Weimar republic and bring Hitler to power.  This is right out of the maxine Waters and antifa's handbook.
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So sing it with me-- ♯ ♩ I say fascist, ♪ ♫ you say communist, ♬ ♭ I say nazis, ♪ ♫ you say socialists,...♬ ♯ potāto, ♫ ♯ potăto,  ♬ ♭ tomāto, ♫ tomăto,... :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya8-ZKcOhiY
How about this, maybe It's the worst of both  ac_dunno  
Either way, the most important thing is- its real bad stuff, I think we can agree on that. ac_drinks
			 
			
			
				Brown shirts and commies were into bullying big time. Soros' Antifa is the modern version of the two. Hence  little difference between them today.
			
			
			
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/breaking-ip-address-of-person-who-doxxed-gop-senators-points-to-maxine-waters-office/
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It appears 4plebs found the culprit and she works in Maxine Waters's office. The 4plebs users then appear to agree that the IP address came from Waters's office but may not be from Sengstock.
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No surprise.
			 
			
			
				No, no surprise at all.  the left in America has decided their hatred of trump justifies anything and everything.  Even nazi germany era tactics.
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Another example
This isn't some lone yahoo.  This is a professor at Georgetown University, someone who teaches young adults saying this--

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I wonder if twitter will ban her they way the ban conservatives who do nothing wrong?  Probably not I expect.
			 
			
			
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Another example
This isn't some lone yahoo.  This is a professor at Georgetown University, someone who teaches young adults saying this--

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Funny, I thought Ford was a well to do white woman.
			 
			
			
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Another example
This isn't some lone yahoo.  This is a professor at Georgetown University, someone who teaches young adults saying this--

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I wonder if twitter will ban her they way the ban conservatives who do nothing wrong?  Probably not I expect.
Ah, Twitter. Where those without courage of their convictions feel free to run their mouths with impunity.
			 
			
			
				Big week for wacko violent leftists-
https://constitution.com/buffet-battleground-amid-political-chaos-eatery-hires-guards/
https://conservativefiringline.com/liberal-terrorism-two-hospitalized-after-exposure-to-unknown-powder-at-sen-cruzs-houston-campaign-office/
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-secret-service-intercepts-suspicious-envelope-sent-to-trump/
Don't know if those last two were done by prognazis, but the likelihood seems quite high.
			
			
			
				
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=-uqyGVKizL8
			
			
			
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=-uqyGVKizL8
What a tolerant progressive hero. Sucker kicks a woman holding a camera in the face because he disagrees with her. I hope he ends up in jail around a bunch of guys like Herman.
			 
			
			
				
JACKSON, MS (WLBT) - Pictures of the Forest Hill High School halftime band performance during their game against Brookhaven High School are going viral on social media.
Many are saying the performance depicted students dressed as doctors and nurses holding SWAT team members at gunpoint.

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Brookhaven Mayor Joe Cox said he has since spoke with the Mayor of Jackson, who informed him that the Forest Hill band director has been placed on administrative leave pending the investigation. He added that the mayor apologized to him personally for the halftime show.
			 
			
			
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JACKSON, MS (WLBT) - Pictures of the Forest Hill High School halftime band performance during their game against Brookhaven High School are going viral on social media.
Many are saying the performance depicted students dressed as doctors and nurses holding SWAT team members at gunpoint.

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Brookhaven Mayor Joe Cox said he has since spoke with the Mayor of Jackson, who informed him that the Forest Hill band director has been placed on administrative leave pending the investigation. He added that the mayor apologized to him personally for the halftime show.
I just got back from Colorado.  The divide in America has reached psychotic proportions. The left being the really crazy violent side.
			 
			
			
				Good find CC I had not come across that story.  I would say its unbelievable but the left finding ugly new lows is unfortunately all too believable.  Glad they got caught this time.
			
			
			
				When you think you have seen the ultimate lowest of the low .... you find they have just barely cracked the surface of "low"
It's going to get a lot uglier. Frankly, I see an "absolutely no limits" situation approaching rapidly
			
			
			
				In a social media post on Saturday, a writer for CBS's "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" seemingly celebrated the damage done to Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's reputation during his bruising and bitterly partisan confirmation battle.
"Whatever happens, 
			
			
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A raving mean lefty - Who wooda guessed? 
A raving FEMALE mean lefty...let's stop ignoring the elephant in the room.
Much of the hysteria, rage and lunacy of the left is coming from women. Men hating, sociopathological, bitter and misanthropic females who believe they have a right to vengeance.
			 
			
			
				That is a huge element within the left - In fact,  without it, the left would be nowhere
and for many, "sociopathological" is not an exaggeration
			
			
			
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and for many, "sociopathological" is not an exaggeration
No doubt dividing women against men just like dividing other races against whites are huge boons to the left.  there are certainly some angry feminazis out there, but ts harder to divide  women against men, too many women have husbands, boyfriends, sons, fathers and male friends they love and they don't want to hate men.
it looks like there are a lot of conservative women who sided with Kavanaugh that intend to make it to the polls this november.
[size=150]GOP Women Are Furious Over Democrats' Anti-Kavanaugh Smear Campaign; Dem Strategists Worry[/size]
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/10/05/poll-gop-women-are-furious-over-democrats-antikavanaugh-smear-campaign-n2525442
			 
			
			
				I suspect many of these female leftards are harbouring anti-male resentment through rejection by males...from fathers to lovers and husbands.
It is my firm belief that women blame all their ills on men by default.
			
			
			
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It is my firm belief that women blame all their ills on men by default.
I don't think most women dislike men
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But I think you are right, the prognazi feminist women are mostly women who are angry at their fathers or someone who they feel wronged them or they are unattractive and/or difficult to get along with, and men want nothing to do with them
			 
			
			
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It is my firm belief that women blame all their ills on men by default.
I don't think most women dislike men
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But I think you are right, the prognazi feminist women are mostly women who are angry at their fathers or someone who they feel wronged them or they are unattractive and/or difficult to get along with, and men want nothing to do with them
But, prognazi men are no better. Look at that POS in Toronto that kicked the pro life woman.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It is my firm belief that women blame all their ills on men by default.
I don't think most women dislike men
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But I think you are right, the prognazi feminist women are mostly women who are angry at their fathers or someone who they feel wronged them or they are unattractive and/or difficult to get along with, and men want nothing to do with them
But, prognazi men are no better. Look at that POS in Toronto that kicked the pro life woman.
Absolutely, Prognazis are evil no matter what they are-- white, black, Hispanic,  Jew, Christian, Atheist, men, women --doesn't matter, what matters is they are prognazis and they must be opposed by decent thinking people from every race and gender or they will ruin western representative democracy.
(BTW while all progs are bad, I don't think they are all prognazis, but anyone who wants to encourage hatred of men and whites and wants to destroy free speech or feel that their views entitle them to be violent  toward or harass and threaten people--is IMO a prognazi)
			 
			
			
				
The New York Times on Saturday evening published an op-ed titled "White Women, Come Get Your People." The op-ed's author, Alexis Grenell, attacked Republican women who supported Kavanaugh as "gender traitors" in league with the "patriarchy."
Grenell claimed that "white women benefit from patriarchy by trading on their whiteness to monopolize resources for mutual gain."
White women "are expected to support the patriarchy by marrying within their racial group, reproducing whiteness and even minimizing violence against their own bodies," the liberal writer asserted.
Women's March leader Linda Sarsour on Friday called Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins "the mother [and] grandmother of white women in America who gave us a Donald Trump presidency."
"She is a disgrace [and] her legacy will be that she was a traitor to women and marginalized communities. History will not treat her kindly," Sarsour said in a statement.
The next day Sarsour introduced Democratic New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand at an anti-Kavanaugh rally. (RELATED: Sarsour Blames 'Jewish Media' For Her Unpopularity)
Time Magazine on Thursday published an "open letter to white women" from playwright and feminist activist Eve Ensler.
Ensler demanded white women block "the ascension of a man who is angry, aggressive, and vengeful and could very well be a sexual assaulter."
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more from the RACIST New York Times op ed
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That's because white women benefit from patriarchy by trading on their whiteness to monopolize resources for mutual gain. In return they're placed on a pedestal to be "cherished and revered," as Speaker Paul D. Ryan has said about women, but all the while denied basic rights.
I guess it couldn't be possibly that some women don't want their sons, brothers, fathers, and Husbands to be guilty until proven innocent or, in this case, guilty even when proved innocent.
With every major political loss these people reveal who they are.  they don't like (many hate) white men, they don't like white women (they just don't dislike them as much) they don't like working class whites (and they don't like minorities who don't toe the liberal line.)   They also feel their political views entitle them to threaten, harass and act violent towards anyone who gets in their way.
With every loss of power they show they are not fit to be dog catchers, much less run a country.
			 
			
			
				This aint so much violent, but AOL, which leans heavily Left, is always drumming up hate on Trump. Front article today was how he sparked outrage on social media with his tweet about Columbus day. Of course, they smear him, and say "Columbus was a bad man, etc". Even though some of what they say is right, its what the children are taught in the fucking school! If they dont want folks to believe in Columbus day, then change the damn fucking books to teach the truth. THE WHOLE TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD!!!  :rules:
			
			
			
				Seems even someone who put his life in great danger for the space program cowtows to the mob

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Retired astronaut Scott Kelly felt compelled to apologize for quoting Winston Churchill after some social media users criticized him for endorsing the 'racist' former British Prime Minister.
But he also came under fire for apologizing from critics who accuse Kelly of caving into a Twitter hate mob and point out that Churchill is 'one of the greatest figures in history and helped defeat the Nazis'.
others take a more nuanced view that Churchill was a product of his era, when racist views were widespread and his defining act of defeating the Nazis means he should be admired as one of the greatest figures in history.
However, Kelly, who has commanded three International Space Station Expeditions, still felt the need to remove his Tweet and publicly apologize following a deluge of criticism from Churchill's detractors.
The astronaut was mercilessly trolled on Twitter by users who said he needed to 'educate himself' on the man who helped win the Second World War.
'Churchill was a mass murderer and a racist, Scott,' one user tweeted.
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ummm ... "On Leave " .... why not in jail??
			 
			
			
				
Per NBC News, Kavanaugh's confirmation is the "ultimate affirmation of the patriarchy,"
 or something.

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				It's odd.
I've been using "social media" for many years.
My views on a number of things have changed significantly as a result of interacting with a whole range of people. But not once have I backed down because of social media mob attacks. They are impotent. Why do these people bow to shrieking keyboards?
			
			
			
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Retired astronaut Scott Kelly felt compelled to apologize for quoting Winston Churchill after some social media users criticized him for endorsing the 'racist' former British Prime Minister.
But he also came under fire for apologizing from critics who accuse Kelly of caving into a Twitter hate mob and point out that Churchill is 'one of the greatest figures in history and helped defeat the Nazis'.
others take a more nuanced view that Churchill was a product of his era, when racist views were widespread and his defining act of defeating the Nazis means he should be admired as one of the greatest figures in history.
However, Kelly, who has commanded three International Space Station Expeditions, still felt the need to remove his Tweet and publicly apologize following a deluge of criticism from Churchill's detractors.
The astronaut was mercilessly trolled on Twitter by users who said he needed to 'educate himself' on the man who helped win the Second World War.
'Churchill was a mass murderer and a racist, Scott,' one user tweeted.
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I think history has been a little too kind to Churchill. But, nobody should have to apologize for quoting him.
			 
			
			
				The guy stood tall when it counted. His defiance of Hitler's advances changed the course of the war, and history, while OTHER countries (I'm looking at you, America) turned their backs. 
Churchill's main army was trapped in France after the meek and feckless French army collapsed. His war stocks were minimal. His only trump card was the British Navy, and you can't defend land forces with ships.
But he gave Hitler a big "fuck you", and saved Europe. He's entitled to views which these days may be deemed insensitive...but were they wrong?
			
			
			
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I've been using "social media" for many years.
My views on a number of things have changed significantly as a result of interacting with a whole range of people. But not once have I backed down because of social media mob attacks. They are impotent. Why do these people bow to shrieking keyboards?
Some people are weak .. maybe afraid of their image etc. ... spineless twts
			 
			
			
				If you don't stand for what you believe in, you fall for what others believe in.
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Bricktop"
I've been using "social media" for many years.
My views on a number of things have changed significantly as a result of interacting with a whole range of people. But not once have I backed down because of social media mob attacks. They are impotent. Why do these people bow to shrieking keyboards?
Some people are weak .. maybe afraid of their image etc. ... spineless twts
In addition to harassment, threats and violence, The lefties like to use peer pressure-like techniques.  rather than try to persuade people  of their views with logic and evidence, they bully anyone with different views in order to get them to conform.  It often works, the churchill example is a good one.
Taylor swift refused to take political sides for years and was criticized harshly for it in several media articles (you can't even be neutral anymore)--  
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/06/the-weird-campaign-to-get-taylor-swift-to-denounce-donald-trump-215994
Finally she has broken down and taken sides with the left.  A genuine conversion? or a triumph for leftist  peer pressure-like bullying ?
			 
			
			
				But let's remind ourselves that Taylor Swift is no genius. Who really cares what she thinks?
			
			
			
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Apparently Democrats.
			 
			
			
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In addition to harassment, threats and violence, The lefties like to use peer pressure-like techniques.  rather than try to persuade people  of their views with logic and evidence, they bully anyone with different views in order to get them to conform.  It often works, the churchill example is a good one.
In my experience, standing your ground and fighting back is a far better strategy than backing away and meekly submitting.
If some leftard gets in my face with their environmentalism, feminism, anti-white make discrimination or any other leftist lunacy, I bite back. Hard.
I refuse to be bullied...and in turn I'm accused of bullying. But I will stand my ground, and honour my beliefs unless, as has sometimes occurred, someone uses reason and logic to show me where I am wrong.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
In addition to harassment, threats and violence, The lefties like to use peer pressure-like techniques.  rather than try to persuade people  of their views with logic and evidence, they bully anyone with different views in order to get them to conform.  It often works, the churchill example is a good one.
In my experience, standing your ground and fighting back is a far better strategy than backing away and meekly submitting.
If some leftard gets in my face with their environmentalism, feminism, anti-white make discrimination or any other leftist lunacy, I bite back. Hard.
I refuse to be bullied...and in turn I'm accused of bullying. But I will stand my ground, and honour my beliefs unless, as has sometimes occurred, someone uses reason and logic to show me where I am wrong.
yeah much the same here.  I will listen to someone making a good argument and may even alter my views because of it.  But If someone gets in my face about anything I don't give in, I usually do the opposite of whatever they want.
Sadly most people give in, and worse yet, many of them do a sort of Helsinki syndrome kind of thing.  they don't just give in, they give in and then actually internally adopt the values being forced on them.
			 
			
			
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She's a celebrity. 
Celebrities live in and profit immensely from living in and defending their bubbles. Weak minds and spirits idolize such people. 
I feel bad for James Woods and the few like him who reject that bubble they're meant to live in. But I respect the hell out of them for sticking to their convictions.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
She's a celebrity. 
Celebrities live in and profit immensely from living in and defending their bubbles. Weak minds and spirits idolize such people. 
I feel bad for James Woods and the few like him who reject that bubble they're meant to live in. But I respect the hell out of them for sticking to their convictions.
Woods is also a smart and well-informed person, most of these other celebs know less than the average person, but they spew their blather anyway.
probably most here know this, but woods was banned from twitter for BS reasons
https://www.wnd.com/2018/09/james-woods-locked-out-of-twitter-for-satirical-meme/
He has been reinstated, and he is calling them out for their censorship
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1050042947541131265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1050042947541131265&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fnews%2Fjames-woods-alleges-shadow-banning-by-twitter-encourages-users-votegop
Congress and/or the courts need to settle this issue, are social media giants private entities that can censor antiprogs?  or are they monopolistic, and therefore must make every effort to play fair or suffer consequences?
			 
			
			
				Longtime advocates for liberal Democrats and left-wing policies James Carville and Al Hunt really have just had it with unvaccinated Americans.
And now they want the government to ban the unvaxxed from interstate travel and to enact laws that will allow the morally superior vaccinated portion of the population to engage in actual physical violence against unjabbed fellow Americans.
Carville offered his dream scenario: Government-endorsed violence against unvaccinated "piece of s**t" Americans.
"I wish what they'd do is pass a law to make you immune from liability if you punch some unvaccinated person right in the face, which I'd really like to do," the famous Democratic operative said.
			
			
			
				I had thought Carville had more savvy than that
			
			
			
				Quote from: Herman post_id=438285 time=1644365146 user_id=1689
Longtime advocates for liberal Democrats and left-wing policies James Carville and Al Hunt really have just had it with unvaccinated Americans.
And now they want the government to ban the unvaxxed from interstate travel and to enact laws that will allow the morally superior vaccinated portion of the population to engage in actual physical violence against unjabbed fellow Americans.
Carville offered his dream scenario: Government-endorsed violence against unvaccinated "piece of s**t" Americans.
"I wish what they'd do is pass a law to make you immune from liability if you punch some unvaccinated person right in the face, which I'd really like to do," the famous Democratic operative said.
Another white libtard who puts all his eggs in the vaccination basket.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Herman post_id=438285 time=1644365146 user_id=1689
Longtime advocates for liberal Democrats and left-wing policies James Carville and Al Hunt really have just had it with unvaccinated Americans.
And now they want the government to ban the unvaxxed from interstate travel and to enact laws that will allow the morally superior vaccinated portion of the population to engage in actual physical violence against unjabbed fellow Americans.
Carville offered his dream scenario: Government-endorsed violence against unvaccinated "piece of s**t" Americans.
"I wish what they'd do is pass a law to make you immune from liability if you punch some unvaccinated person right in the face, which I'd really like to do," the famous Democratic operative said.
James Carville has been capping on the marxists within his party. But, all Dems, including so called moderates like Carville have an authoritarian streak.