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Casino magnate 
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Finally, at number 43 on Forbes' list (number 20 for just the US) with a net worth estimated at around $20.7 billion, we have 
Peterffy is a Trump supporter, though he says he "wasn't his first choice" for president. He's a Hungarian immigrant and the founder and chair of Interactive Brokers.  He's a vocal critic of socialism and seems to be an all-around good guy. He urged Americans to vote Trump in 2016, warning that Hillary Clinton "will appoint liberal, activist judges who will work with her to give citizenship to 11 million illegal immigrants."
"They will all vote Democrat and we'll never have a Republican president ever again," Peterffy said.
He spent millions on ads during the 2012 election bashing socialism and saying he's going to vote Republican.
Though nearly all the other top billionaires are leftists, Democrats, and open borders globalists, Peterffy appears to be the only exception to the rule.
			 
			
			
				The uber rich are almost always left leaning politically. There's lots of theories about why this is but I believe popular culture and current trends are a major factor. Even the rich and powerful don't want to be shunned by their friends, and supporting Politically Incorrect right wing policies can certainly lead to being ostracised in some circles, especially among the highfalutin so called 'educated' upper middle classes. Then of course there's those limousine liberal do gooders who want mass immigration everywhere except for on their own doorstep, these people are some of the worst hypocrites around.
 Corporate big wigs and big business support the left because open borders results in a never-ending flow of cheap labor, meaning they can keep wages down. You should see the fuss most companies are making over Brexit, apparently the sky is going to fall after our departure from the EU and our economy will resemble that of pre-National Socialist Germany.  :001_rolleyes:
			
			
			
				Billionaires are out of touch with the rest of us and the ideas gap is growing.
			
			
			
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Casino magnate 
The 
Finally, at number 43 on Forbes' list (number 20 for just the US) with a net worth estimated at around $20.7 billion, we have 
Peterffy is a Trump supporter, though he says he "wasn't his first choice" for president. He's a Hungarian immigrant and the founder and chair of Interactive Brokers.  He's a vocal critic of socialism and seems to be an all-around good guy. He urged Americans to vote Trump in 2016, warning that Hillary Clinton "will appoint liberal, activist judges who will work with her to give citizenship to 11 million illegal immigrants."
"They will all vote Democrat and we'll never have a Republican president ever again," Peterffy said.
He spent millions on ads during the 2012 election bashing socialism and saying he's going to vote Republican.
Though nearly all the other top billionaires are leftists, Democrats, and open borders globalists, Peterffy appears to be the only exception to the rule.
Power hungry scum.
			 
			
			
				There is one flaw in their schemes of domination.
Each and every one of them, without exemption, has just one vote. The same as the burger flipper.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Each and every one of them, without exemption, has just one vote. The same as the burger flipper.
that's true the rich only technically have one vote
But a rich person giving money has way more  
			
			
				In the past, that may have been true.
But the election of Trump via a campaign that spent far less money than Clinton's suggest that their largesse went down the S bend of history with no net effect. 
This is the lesson we're learning from Trump's victory, Brexit and the rise of the anti-left in Austria, Poland, Hungary and other European nations.
No matter how much they spend, it is to no avail if the people aren't listening.
And they aren't listening even more now than ever.
			
			
			
				Any businessman knows that it is ideal to always have a massive flow in of A:  Cheap labour, and B: New consumers.
This is one of the most basic concepts that must be understood when thinking like these guys do.  These guys give a fuck about nothing other than their bank accounts, but how 'generous' of them to claim that their ambitions are otherwise...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
But the election of Trump via a campaign that spent far less money than Clinton's suggest that their largesse went down the S bend of history with no net effect. 
This is the lesson we're learning from Trump's victory, Brexit and the rise of the anti-left in Austria, Poland, Hungary and other European nations.
No matter how much they spend, it is to no avail if the people aren't listening.
And they aren't listening even more now than ever.
touche--good points.  At times the money factor can disappear.  It has in the latest worldwide backlash against the left and I sure hope that continues.
However, I would say though that a lot of republicans in particular are pro-open borders because their donors are.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
But the election of Trump via a campaign that spent far less money than Clinton's suggest that their largesse went down the S bend of history with no net effect. 
This is the lesson we're learning from Trump's victory, Brexit and the rise of the anti-left in Austria, Poland, Hungary and other European nations.
No matter how much they spend, it is to no avail if the people aren't listening.
And they aren't listening even more now than ever.
Trump's election was a one time only event. Eastern Europe never allowed themselves to become hotbeds of islamic extremism and took preventive measures to make sure they are not flooded with millions of aliens they cannot assimilate.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Bricktop"
Each and every one of them, without exemption, has just one vote. The same as the burger flipper.
that's true the rich only technically have one vote
But a rich person giving money has way more 
Exactly. And the blilionaire decides for the burger flipper who the candidates issues will be. The burger flipper gets to think his or her vote if equal to that of blillionaires, but of course it does not.
			 
			
			
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Trump's election was a one time only event.
Which is why I always claim that it is not the Trump era that will set the changes in stone, but whoever follows.
As always, Australia lags behind the rest of the world in terms of social change (it's the heat...nobody gives a fuck for 6 months of the year, so it takes us twice as long to catch up), but I think we're getting close...maybe the next Federal election in May, 2019. The current "conservative" (actually a prog in sheep's clothing) PM has no chance, but the opposition leader, a socialist, is even less popular. 
It will be hard for either party to get a majority, and independents will have their best chance ever to take a seat in the house. Hell, I'd stand myself if I wasn't disqualified from doing so.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Herman"
Trump's election was a one time only event.
Which is why I always claim that it is not the Trump era that will set the changes in stone, but whoever follows.
As always, Australia lags behind the rest of the world in terms of social change (it's the heat...nobody gives a fuck for 6 months of the year, so it takes us twice as long to catch up), but I think we're getting close...maybe the next Federal election in May, 2019. The current "conservative" (actually a prog in sheep's clothing) PM has no chance, but the opposition leader, a socialist, is even less popular. 
It will be hard for either party to get a majority, and independents will have their best chance ever to take a seat in the house. Hell,
Because you were born abroad?
We've had recent federal party leaders with dual citizenship.
			 
			
			
				Yes. To be eligible to stand for Federal parliament, I would have to renounce my British citizenship, which I would never be prepared to do.
I am British by birth, and a dual citizen. "Renouncing" would not change that...yet our moronic laws preclude dual citizens from standing unless they sign a piece of paper declaring they are no longer their original nationality. 
As in many cases, Governments seem to think that signing pieces of paper is an accurate reflection of one's thoughts, feelings and sentiments.
			
			
			
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I am British by birth, and a dual citizen. "Renouncing" would not change that...yet our moronic laws preclude dual citizens from standing unless they sign a piece of paper declaring they are no longer their original nationality. 
As in many cases, Governments seem to think that signing pieces of paper is an accurate reflection of one's thoughts, feelings and sentiments.
I think it's a law worth keeping.
			 
			
			
				I'm not bucking it. I understand what it's for.
My point is that were I to stand for election, would signing a piece of paper change the way I'd act?
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Bricktop"
I am British by birth, and a dual citizen. "Renouncing" would not change that...yet our moronic laws preclude dual citizens from standing unless they sign a piece of paper declaring they are no longer their original nationality. 
As in many cases, Governments seem to think that signing pieces of paper is an accurate reflection of one's thoughts, feelings and sentiments.
I think it's a law worth keeping.
Taiwan has had legislators born in China..
They came over after Chiang Kai Shek was kicked out of China.
			 
			
			
				[size=150]Billionaire Koch Brothers Launch Super PAC to Support Open Borders Politicians[/size]
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/10/billionaire-koch-brothers-launch-super-pac-to-support-open-borders-politicians/
Seems like every rich donor wants open borders.  these are the fundamental flaws in democracy when rich donors and small loud groups have more influence than what the majority wants.
			
			
			
				Open borders = (cheap labour + more customers) = more profit in their pockets.