From the RACIST (but unbiased) New York Times
At least four people, including two police officers, were killed after a shooting in Fredericton, the capital of the Canadian province of New Brunswick, the police said on Friday morning.
The shooting took place on Brookside Drive, a major thoroughfare in the city, according to the Fredericton Police Force. One person was taken into custody in connection with the shooting, the department said shortly before 10 a.m. They later announced that there was no further threat to the public.
The Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital in Fredericton said it was treating "multiple victims" injured in the shooting. The person taken into custody was also being treated for serious injuries, the police said.[/quote]
No doubt sarah jeong, genocidal, but unbiased new york times reporter, is hoping they were all white people.

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Latest from CNN ... Top Cop said "This is a developing situation and it is premature to determine whether there are any national security implications."
That's "leading" ..... like another "mentally ill so not his fault" ... or nazi head ... keeping in mind that CNN is chock full of nutcakes who know nothing but have to yap like they actually know something anyhow
NADA on Canadian news .. seems cops have said nothing yet
3.30 local time Police Conference .. 11.30 Pacific time .. 2.30 Eastern
We can't even get unbiased coverage when it comes to crime reporting. :dash1:
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We can't even get unbiased coverage when it comes to crime reporting. :dash1:
You must be wrong. Peaches says the media isn't biased. :laugh3:
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We can't even get unbiased coverage when it comes to crime reporting. :dash1:
You must be wrong. Peaches says the media isn't biased. :laugh3:
Dude, that ain't what Peaches said. What he did say is difficult enough, but if you start trolling it all over unrelated threads you'll shit up this forum even worse than it is.
What Peaches says about this story is, there is a real good chance that the Canadian media are inclined to downplay certain newsworthy stories as a way of playing footsie with government officials. The bias, if that's what it is, lies with the government -- and the media refrains from calling attention to it.
It happens in most other countries also, including mine... the sort of stories government tries to manage vary from country to country and from administration to administration. In the case of the US, for example, since about 1948 there has never not been at least one CIA asset sitting on the New York Times editorial board, a fact that neither the CIA nor the NYT ever acknowledges.
Again, that's not "bias." It's something much worse.
Back to OP
Major Press Conference.
No name of shooter. Press didn't even ask "who" during question period
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We can't even get unbiased coverage when it comes to crime reporting. :dash1:
Not sure yet of the full extent of that on this one, but their not even asking was strange for the press that always asks questions. Could be anyone, but cops are not saying who it was even though they have had him all day
* For the compound story that is TOO true. Reuters is actually seeking sympathy for the father who was indicted conspirator on WTC bombing & character witness for the blind sheikh who planned it ... AND is imam at the fundy NY mosque behind it all and where the shooter of 2 cops was taught .. sick!!!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-crime/brooklyn-imam-dismayed-by-familys-tragedy-at-new-mexico-compound-idUSKBN1KV04B?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter
NYPD Surveilled Activities At Mosque Connected To New Mexico Compound, But ACLU, Linda Sarsour Intervened
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Back to OP
Major Press Conference.
No name of shooter. Press didn't even ask "who" during question period
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We can't even get unbiased coverage when it comes to crime reporting. :dash1:
Not sure yet of the full extent of that on this one, but their not even asking was strange for the press that always asks questions. Could be anyone, but cops are not saying who it was even though they have had him all day
* For the compound story that is TOO true. Reuters is actually seeking sympathy for the father who was indicted conspirator on WTC bombing & character witness for the blind sheikh who planned it ... AND is imam at the fundy NY mosque behind it all and where the shooter of 2 cops was taught .. sick!!!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-crime/brooklyn-imam-dismayed-by-familys-tragedy-at-new-mexico-compound-idUSKBN1KV04B?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter
NYPD Surveilled Activities At Mosque Connected To New Mexico Compound, But ACLU, Linda Sarsour Intervened
That should be one of the first questions the press asks.
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Back to OP
Major Press Conference.
No name of shooter. Press didn't even ask "who" during question period
Quote from: "seoulbro"
We can't even get unbiased coverage when it comes to crime reporting. :dash1:
Not sure yet of the full extent of that on this one, but their not even asking was strange for the press that always asks questions. Could be anyone, but cops are not saying who it was even though they have had him all day
* For the compound story that is TOO true. Reuters is actually seeking sympathy for the father who was indicted conspirator on WTC bombing & character witness for the blind sheikh who planned it ... AND is imam at the fundy NY mosque behind it all and where the shooter of 2 cops was taught .. sick!!!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-crime/brooklyn-imam-dismayed-by-familys-tragedy-at-new-mexico-compound-idUSKBN1KV04B?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter
NYPD Surveilled Activities At Mosque Connected To New Mexico Compound, But ACLU, Linda Sarsour Intervened
Linda Sarsour is satan's defender.
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there is a real good chance that the Canadian media are inclined to downplay certain newsworthy stories as a way of playing footsie with government officials. The bias, if that's what it is, lies with the government -- and the media refrains from calling attention to it.
Conjecture. You have no evidence or fact to back up that assertion...a common flaw in all your arguments.
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In the case of the US, for example, since about 1948 there has never not been at least one CIA asset sitting on the New York Times editorial board, a fact that neither the CIA nor the NYT ever acknowledges.
Reference, or evidence, please.
The shooter was forty eight and from Fredericton.
Had not found that - where did you hear that? any more?
Christie Blatchford: We need answers from our authorities, not sympathy and silence (//https)
I don't want more thoughts and prayers, makeshift memorials or candlelight vigils.
How about some hard, factual information in a timely manner?
Here we go again.
This time, there were five of them — Fredericton's police chief and deputy chief, the RCMP superintendent now running the homicide investigation, the mayor of the lovely New Brunswick capital city and the premier of the province.
This was more than eight hours after the shooting early Friday morning that left four people dead, including two Fredericton police officers and two civilians, and may have seen as many as seven other civilians wounded.
And yet among them, the five officials had almost nothing to say beyond the identification of the two slain officers
... What the heck happened at the four-building Brookside Drive apartment complex?
.... Honest to Pete, in that big Canadian family, I am an outlier, an orphan, the awful black sheep.
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there is a real good chance that the Canadian media are inclined to downplay certain newsworthy stories as a way of playing footsie with government officials. The bias, if that's what it is, lies with the government -- and the media refrains from calling attention to it.
Conjecture. You have no evidence or fact to back up that assertion...a common flaw in all your arguments.
You are correct, Captain Obvious, it's clearly stated as conjecture. Thus it's hardly an "assertion" or an "argument" so the rest of your niggling prattle is just so much mental masturbation.
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In the case of the US, for example, since about 1948 there has never not been at least one CIA asset sitting on the New York Times editorial board, a fact that neither the CIA nor the NYT ever acknowledges.
Reference, or evidence, please.
Try Steven Kinzer's excellent bio of the Dulles brothers ("The Brothers") wherein he somewhere makes the allegation (footnoted) pretty much in the same words I used. I've loaned out my copy so can't look it up for you at the moment. You can also read Bernstein's words on the larger issue of CIA involvement in US journalism at the link.
http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
There's plenty more, and Google is your friend.
Just a friendly suggestion ... you 2 take your crap play elsewhere, and or shove it up your asses
Fuck ... OP subject just happened this morning and you foreigners are already taking over an important Canadian news thread with your drivel
I'd off your shit to the dungeon ... where it belongs .. if I had the controls here
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Had not found that - where did you hear that? any more?
Christie Blatchford: We need answers from our authorities, not sympathy and silence (//https)
I don't want more thoughts and prayers, makeshift memorials or candlelight vigils.
How about some hard, factual information in a timely manner?
Here we go again.
This time, there were five of them — Fredericton's police chief and deputy chief, the RCMP superintendent now running the homicide investigation, the mayor of the lovely New Brunswick capital city and the premier of the province.
This was more than eight hours after the shooting early Friday morning that left four people dead, including two Fredericton police officers and two civilians, and may have seen as many as seven other civilians wounded.
And yet among them, the five officials had almost nothing to say beyond the identification of the two slain officers
... What the heck happened at the four-building Brookside Drive apartment complex?
.... Honest to Pete, in that big Canadian family, I am an outlier, an orphan, the awful black sheep.
I found it cc.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-a-morning-of-gunfire-confusion-heroism-and-death/
Thanks
"Authorities have yet to name the final civilian victim or the alleged shooter, only identifying him as a 48-year-old man from Fredericton. Police said he was in hospital "undergoing treatment for serious injuries" as of Friday afternoon."
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"Authorities have yet to name the final civilian victim or the alleged shooter, only identifying him as a 48-year-old man from Fredericton. Police said he was in hospital "undergoing treatment for serious injuries" as of Friday afternoon."
They won't even give the shooter's frickin name. :dash1:
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Just a friendly suggestion ... you 2 take your crap play elsewhere, and or shove it up your asses
Fuck ... OP subject just happened this morning and you foreigners are already taking over an important Canadian news thread with your drivel
I'd off your shit to the dungeon ... where it belongs .. if I had the controls here
Yeah, well you don't...and our dialogue was within the bounds of this issue, vis a vis YOUR claims and assertions regarding media reporting.
ac_razz
Ya, right
I guess I need to use my old line I often used for "that" Aussie .. "Go scroo a roo"
ac_smile
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"Authorities have yet to name the final civilian victim or the alleged shooter, only identifying him as a 48-year-old man from Fredericton. Police said he was in hospital "undergoing treatment for serious injuries" as of Friday afternoon."
They won't even give the shooter's frickin name. :dash1:
*IF* its a muslim name , like last time, we will probably never find it out. Job one of the unbiased media, protect Islam's image.
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"Authorities have yet to name the final civilian victim or the alleged shooter, only identifying him as a 48-year-old man from Fredericton. Police said he was in hospital "undergoing treatment for serious injuries" as of Friday afternoon."
They won't even give the shooter's frickin name. :dash1:
*IF* its a muslim name , like last time, we will probably never find it out. Job one of the unbiased media, protect Islam's image.
Fredericton accepted more Syrian "refugees" per capita than any other community in Canada. However, their muslim population is small. I doubt the killer is a muslim.
We knew the name of the last one in a day or so ... it was just that the name came complete with professional family letter designed to let islam off the hook
Well, we don't know that it is islamic. It's not a typical allah-driven jihadi type thing like Toronto ... unless he set it up to kill cops
Did see scarfed females being interviewed .. so they have some there .. . still we don't know yet who did it at this point .. could even be a nazi killin muslims for all we know now
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We knew the name of the last one in a day or so ... it was just that the name came complete with professional family letter designed to let islam off the hook
Well, we don't know that it is islamic. It's not a typical allah-driven jihadi type thing like Toronto ... unless he set it up to kill cops
Did see scarfed females being interviewed .. so they have some there .. . still we don't know yet who did it at this point .. could even be a nazi killin muslims for all we know now
I hope the police don't keep the public in the dark much longer.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... People who go on shooting sprees are often the most difficult to predict, to understand, and to formulate an answer for the general public as to why they did what they did.
Depends on if it is for a cause. You are speaking about loons, but not those who do it for a god
and this one set cops up too ... seems that might have been the goal
Fash: They can't blame people for being suspicious about ANY elements of it when they hold back for so long (victims and perp) .. and unnecessarily
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They can't blame people for being suspicious when they hold back for so long .. and necessarily
The police are encouraging speculation by keeping the public in the dark.
I agree. They don't mean to .. but that is what they achieve
Frankly there is no excuse ... the public has a right to know asap
While all you armchair experts look for sinister elements to the lack of information thus disseminated, it is entirely possible there are good and valid reasons that details are withheld.
First and foremost, the police must be ABSOLUTELY certain of the identity of ALL involved, including the offender. It is not unheard of for villains to use aliases...thus when you find a body and a neighbour says "His name was John Smith, he moved in 2 weeks ago", it is not unreasonable to expect the police to exercise considerable diligence before publicly disclosing any names. Without an immediate and valid identification of the deceased, the police are not PERMITTED to release details. Often, they must also make an effort to contact any next of kin if they aren't at hand at the crime scene.
Given the antecedents outlined in the reports above, it is entirely possible we're dealing with an itinerant with dubious identification.
There is no purpose to withholding information that will be disclosed eventually. It is often a matter of circumstance.
Good points, but we have heard this song so many times already
This one may not be islamic, but there is always a correlation to dragged out timing when it is
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There is no purpose to withholding information that will be disclosed eventually
agreed holding back does not help but seems they so often try ... Actually seems they don't want it say it .. . everywhere in the West
That does not mean ANY delayed disclosure is due to potential islamic involvement.
Not many terrorists are 48 years old. They've usually grown out of it by then.
Agreed again .. it well may not be .. but my point above is valid when it is .. everywhere in the West now
They pulled that in Toronto giving the family time for a professionally sympathetic family response, releasing name and family letter simultaneously .. they release name and sympathetic tale / excuses etc. at same time
It does not grow out ... if they haven't sacrificed themselves in youth they become youth mentors
I personally don't assume spree shooters to be Islamic, as this is often not the case in the West.
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That does not mean ANY delayed disclosure is due to potential islamic involvement.
Not many terrorists are 48 years old. They've usually grown out of it by then.
I'm not suggesting it is nor do I suspect it..
As Shen Li pointed out, Fredericton's demographics make that unlikely.
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I personally don't assume spree shooters to be Islamic, as this is often not the case in the West.
For the % population, it is frequent - Toronto 2 weeks ago sure as hell was ... and several others in the West were and will be
Dunno on this one, but the longer they hold off .. allowing Brick's good points .. the more likely it is
If they don't know or are not certain who it is, just say it .. there was time when the public had a right to know
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Just a friendly suggestion ... you 2 take your crap play elsewhere, and or shove it up your asses
Fuck ... OP subject just happened this morning and you foreigners are already taking over an important Canadian news thread with your drivel
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I'm going to be charitable and assume you were ripped to the tits when you typed this. You're talking about a two-post aside that was in fact a legit tangent to the OP topic. That's hardly a hijack by any measure.
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It's a shame Wazzup didn't post the topic in YOUR sub (where you seem to think it belongs,) so you could have the control you seem so desperately to need.
As it is, you've now initiated a SECOND tangential exchange on this most holy of threads, and one that is demonstrably less useful to the topic. Shame on you.
One of the reports I read said that the police talked to the shooters parents and they said he had mental illness issues. If they know who the parents are, then they certainly know the shooters name.
Probably not islamic as mentioned he's 48 and he didn't die, (unless of course he wanted to die but they only wounded him) dunno though, a name would settle it.
Last time they didn't release it, it sure as hell looked like it was because it was a Muslim name-- remember how they concocted that family apology letter first to defuse things?
OTOH they released the Quebec mosque shooters name and motive the very night it happened.
the left's constant attempts to whitewash Islam by withholding and manipulating information make me sceptical of everything people say these days.
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I'm going to be charitable and assume you were ripped to the tits when you typed this. You're talking about a two-post aside that was in fact a legit tangent to the OP topic. That's hardly a hijack by any measure.
It's a shame Wazzup didn't post the topic in YOUR sub (where you seem to think it belongs,) so you could have the control you seem so desperately to need.
As it is, you've now initiated a SECOND tangential exchange on this most holy of threads, and one that is demonstrably less useful to the topic. Shame on you.
That's the problem, you assume..
The point of what cc wrote is not only clear to anyone, it is absolutely true..
Pretending you don't understand posts is getting old
FREDERICTON — A 48-year-old man has been charged with four counts of first-degree murder in a shooting that left two police officers and two civilians dead in New Brunswick's capital on Friday morning.
Matthew Vincent Raymond of Fredericton is accused of killing 32-year-old Bobbie Lee Wright, her boyfriend Donnie Robichaud, Const. Robb Costello and Const. Sara Burns, police said Saturday.
https://torontosun.com/news/crime/suspect-identified-in-fredericton-shooting-charged-with-four-counts-of-murder/wcm/1cb8b415-20a7-4dd2-a6cf-382460d92a26?video_autoplay=true
CBC concurs
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FREDERICTON — A 48-year-old man has been charged with four counts of first-degree murder in a shooting that left two police officers and two civilians dead in New Brunswick's capital on Friday morning.
Matthew Vincent Raymond of Fredericton is accused of killing 32-year-old Bobbie Lee Wright, her boyfriend Donnie Robichaud, Const. Robb Costello and Const. Sara Burns, police said Saturday.
https://torontosun.com/news/crime/suspect-identified-in-fredericton-shooting-charged-with-four-counts-of-murder/wcm/1cb8b415-20a7-4dd2-a6cf-382460d92a26?video_autoplay=true
I'm just watching this on Global Calgary now.
News conference in 15 minutes - 9 Pacific time
A small city that was still tender from recently being hit by the a major multiple cop murder
Aside: What world does Peachy line in? An electronic figure somewhere within the internet maybe ... a bot designed only to create silly points, or distort other points .... and then argue selected portions of the silly points ??
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News conference in 15 minutes - 9 Pacific time
A small city that was still tender from recently being hit by the a major multiple cop murder
Aside: What world does Peachy line in? An electronic figure somewhere within the internet maybe ... a bot designed only to create silly points, or distort other points .... and then argue selected portions of the silly points ??
I missed most of it.
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Pretending you don't understand posts is getting old
I can fix that for ya.
You pay the bills, you should be able to enjoy the posters and the yappy little pets you want to host. Have a nice day.
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Pretending you don't understand posts is getting old
Obfuscate, deflect or just play dumb. ac_boring
LOL. He even has and carries a "leaving" avatar / peach pit around for when he gets called for what he is and leaves sites

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Pretending you don't understand posts is getting old
I can fix that for ya.
You pay the bills, you should be able to enjoy the posters and the yappy little pets you want to host. Have a nice day.
I hope you have a nice weekend too Peaches.
ac_smile
Did peaches just rage quit :confused1:
It seems so.
Damned inconsiderate, really.
Now who do we pick on??
PS. Yep. He's announced elsewhere that he no longer wants to play with us.
The two cops were shot when they found the victims that were lying dead on the ground.
In the US, police are trained to essentially 'ignore' any of the wounded in an active shooter scenario, no matter what their injuries may be, until the shooter is no longer a threat. I'm not sure what the Canadian protocol is...
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PS. Yep. He's announced elsewhere that he no longer wants to play with us.
You see a fucking pattern forming here yet, you fucking idiot?
No? Not surprised... Fash likes to deep throat your cock all night long...
Here's the funny thing... Fash has the nerve to blame me for posters leaving here.
You can soon be like Mimi too, Bricktop... You'll have the entire forum to yourself. Just you, and nobody else.
Maybe Fash will give you a tug here and there, but even that will wane...
Congratulations.
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It seems so.
Damned inconsiderate, really.
Now who do we pick on??
PS. Yep. He's announced elsewhere that he no longer wants to play with us.
I hope when he gets over his little hissy fit, he returns.