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And speaking of elitist progs, look at what one of Trump's harshest critics did.

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And the MeToo movement said nothing.
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And speaking of elitist progs, look at what one of Trump's harshest critics did.

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And the MeToo movement said nothing.
A member of congress did this.
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He will have the best record of any president who didn't win a second term.
Its an interesting point.
We need to STOP caring what these misanthropes say. They make a lot of noise, they cause a lot of disturbance, but do we really CARE?
Feeding them the attention that they survive on is our failure, not theirs.
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Its an interesting point.
We need to STOP caring what these misanthropes say. They make a lot of noise, they cause a lot of disturbance, but do we really CARE?
Feeding them the attention that they survive on is our failure, not theirs.
In the USA, they are winning the hearts of voters.
Trump's election would suggest otherwise.
One thing I've always noticed...the left's claim of popular support are frequently overstated.
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Trump's election would suggest otherwise.
One thing I've always noticed...the left's claim of popular support are frequently overstated.
As has been pointed out by cc and Wazzzup, Trump's election was a bump on the road. I do not blame the Democrat Party machine and their operatives entirely. The GOP when in control of congress has shown themselves to be cowardly fiscal hypocrites.
I do not agree.
The left put up a poster girl candidate that ticked all their boxes. Popular with women, African Americans, immigrants and the poor.
The right put up a megalomaniacal tycoon with no experience in government, and substantial personal baggage.
Also, do not ignore the fact that in regards to Brexit, BOTH parties advocated to remain.
People are not listening. To any of them. They will make up their own minds, not those of political hacks. That is why the left has become so strident.
I disagree Brick. It would not matter who the GOP nominated as their leader in 2016, the Democrats chosen one was supposed to win. Rubio would have been pilloried daily by the Democrat friendly press. Ted Cruz who is a lot more right wing than Trump would have been facing a mutiny from the other side.
Trump's election is a bump on the road to the Democrats occupying the white house in perpetuity. The Republicans bear a lot of the blame for not reducing the size of government and replacing Obamacare when in control of congress.
The issue I have with your view is that it reflects the view of an informed, intelligent and astute political observer.
But your vote is exactly equal to that of the man in the street, the bar, the sporting crowd and every bus and train.
They are the ones that decide elections. And they have tuned out of the fiasco that is modern democracy. There is no certainty anymore. The left can bang their gongs, scream their slogans and smash windows all they like.
The people who decide will take no notice.
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The issue I have with your view is that it reflects the view of an informed, intelligent and astute political observer.
But your vote is exactly equal to that of the man in the street, the bar, the sporting crowd and every bus and train.
They are the ones that decide elections. And they have tuned out of the fiasco that is modern democracy. There is no certainty anymore. The left can bang their gongs, scream their slogans and smash windows all they like.
The people who decide will take no notice.
But, most voters in Canada or the USA are not as informed as Seoul is.
Here's a sims like dilemma
What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment
But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him
Which would win out, the truth or the haters?
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Here's a sims like dilemma
What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment
But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him
Which would win out, the truth or the haters?
People take a good economy for granted until it's not so good.
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Here's a sims like dilemma
What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment
But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him
Which would win out, the truth or the haters?
Fascist prog haters.
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Here's a sims like dilemma
What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment
But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him
Which would win out, the truth or the haters?
People take a good economy for granted until it's not so good.
We certainly did in Alberta..
But, until three years ago we had provincial and federal governments for twenty five years that worked for instead of against this province.
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Here's a sims like dilemma
What if you set up a guy as president that did most everything right, got north korea to settle down, virtually eliminated ISIS, and produced a great economy with near record low unemployment
But made all the leftist institutions that run our culture hate him
Which would win out, the truth or the haters?
The truth is the haters will win out.
I just don't agree.
You guys will not remember, because you were not around, the turbulence of the 1960's.
The haters were out in force...communism was rampant, with most of Europe, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, parts of the Carribean, China, Nicaragua, North Korea and El Salvador ruled by Soviet style communists.
There was civil unrest and protest marches in every major western city over the Vietnam war, nuclear disarmament and the price of eggs. Communist inspired terrorism was rampant.
This era is mild by comparison. If history teaches us anything, it shows that the rabble rarely hold sway for long.
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I just don't agree.
You guys will not remember, because you were not around, the turbulence of the 1960's.
The haters were out in force...communism was rampant, with most of Europe, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, parts of the Carribean, China, Nicaragua, North Korea and El Salvador ruled by Soviet style communists.
There was civil unrest and protest marches in every major western city over the Vietnam war, nuclear disarmament and the price of eggs. Communist inspired terrorism was rampant.
This era is mild by comparison. If history teaches us anything, it shows that the rabble rarely hold sway for long.
We'll see.
Trust me.
The minority will never hold sway.
Minorities instigate revolutions whether justified or not.
What we're seeing now is the tail end of an over 100 year insurrection to break Western ideals once and for good.
Has there ever been a revolution that succeeded without popular support?
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Trust me.
The minority will never hold sway.
I don't have a problem at all with Canada's rapidly changing demographics..
I do have a problem with white shaming and blaming though.
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Minorities instigate revolutions whether justified or not.
What we're seeing now is the tail end of an over 100 year insurrection to break Western ideals once and for good.
Western countries have encouraged newcomers to break our ideals.
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Has there ever been a revolution that succeeded without popular support?
Plenty.
Just look at the US Revolutionary War. Loyalists outnumbered revolutionaries at the onset and the revolutionaries had little support until the heavy hand of the crown punished all and people got jack of it
Try history. It's refreshing.
Which is another way of saying that once the revolution gained popular support, it prevailed.
Try logic. It's liberating.
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I just don't agree.
You guys will not remember, because you were not around, the turbulence of the 1960's.
The haters were out in force...communism was rampant, with most of Europe, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, parts of the Carribean, China, Nicaragua, North Korea and El Salvador ruled by Soviet style communists.
There was civil unrest and protest marches in every major western city over the Vietnam war, nuclear disarmament and the price of eggs. Communist inspired terrorism was rampant.
This era is mild by comparison. If history teaches us anything, it shows that the rabble rarely hold sway for long.
I hope you're right. I really want you to be. But I don't think so. the sixties were more of a hiccup. the demographics of America are changing and most of the incoming immigrants want socialism. This is a trend. A straight line, that unless stopped, will end up in a prognazi dictatorship.
May, 1968. France.
"The protests reached such a point that political leaders feared civil war or revolution; the national government itself momentarily ceased to function after President Charles de Gaulle secretly fled France for a few hours."
"The unrest began with a series of student occupation protests against capitalism, consumerism, American imperialism and traditional institutions, values and order. It then spread to factories with strikes involving 11 million workers, more than 22% of the total population of France at the time, for two continuous weeks.[1] The movement was characterized by its spontaneous and de-centralized wildcat disposition; this created contrast and sometimes even conflict between itself and the establishment, trade unions and workers' parties.[1] It was the largest general strike ever attempted in France, and the first nationwide wildcat general strike.[1]"
Similar, but less intense unrest, was felt in many other western countries, fuelled by the unpopular Vietnam war, militant trade unions, socialist agitation and Soviet directed and resourced terror organisations throughout the West.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
They may make a lot of noise, but unless there is genuine social injustice and government tyranny, they will achieve very little.
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May, 1968. France.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.
Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.
At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
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May, 1968. France.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.
Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.
At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
So, you think the left wing establishment throughout the West will be successfully fought today?
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May, 1968. France.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.
Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.
At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
So, you think the left wing establishment throughout the West will be successfully fought today?
All the major issues have been fought for and won.
However, everytime a right wing government takes up power again they try to rewrite/amend rights already fought and won.
I'm praying they all catch Politician bird flu very soon. Our politics is a circus full of sad clowns.
I won't bore you with their deploable details.
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May, 1968. France.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.
Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.
At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
So, you think the left wing establishment throughout the West will be successfully fought today?
All the major issues have been fought for and won.
However, everytime a right wing government takes up power again they try to rewrite/amend rights already fought and won.
I'm praying they all catch Politician bird flu very soon. Our politics is a circus full of sad clowns.
I won't bore you with their deploable details.
How daft are you to say such a thing.
If it weren't for those who lean Right or Conservative, there would be no property rights or right to self defence left (what little of either, the same thing though, are still left).
Say what you will about the Left/Right paradigm, but they have both held an important place in more recent politics.
I can shoot holes in both sides of the equation because I'm beyond partisanship. Can you say the same?
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May, 1968. France.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.
Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.
At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
So, you think the left wing establishment throughout the West will be successfully fought today?
All the major issues have been fought for and won.
However, everytime a right wing government takes up power again they try to rewrite/amend rights already fought and won.
Are you blind? It's the left that is taking away free speech. It's prog leftists who are bringing in blasphemy laws. The West is screwed beyond all repair because leftist prog extremists.
You two don't know your European history...
In the 19th century or 1800s ONLY EUROPEAN MALES, WHO OWNED LAND AND WERE OVER THE AGE OF 35 COULD VOTE.
Ya know, your lords, viscounts, barons, earls, princes, dukes, those kinda guys... in other words, not you two.
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Are you blind? It's the left that is taking away free speech. It's prog leftists who are bringing in blasphemy laws. The West is screwed beyond all repair because leftist prog extremists.
Well, you cannot let them take away your free speech. The right took away people's right to strike, what are you going to do about that?.
The world is laying in the power of the wicked one. The world is ungodly and corrupt. It is beyond repair, I agree. It's up to you to stay mentally strong and not let the bastards win... OR (and this is much better) enjoy your remaining days.
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May, 1968. France.
The reality is the left is not a movement of solutions, but of protest, and most clear thinking people see them for what they are.
Historically this is not true. Every single right humans in the West have today is because the right-winged establishment was fought.
Bismarck was the first to introduce social reforms 1. Educate workers, 2. bring in old age pensions, 3. insurance for workers copping accidents... plus more. 1880-90s.
At the same time, the poms were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to sweep.
So, you think the left wing establishment throughout the West will be successfully fought today?
All the major issues have been fought for and won.
However, everytime a right wing government takes up power again they try to rewrite/amend rights already fought and won.
Are you blind? It's the left that is taking away free speech. It's prog leftists who are bringing in blasphemy laws. The West is screwed beyond all repair because leftist prog extremists.
Just what I was thinking. The left is destroying free speech. they are trying to push immigrants into every western country to dilute the population to get more power. they are ruining individual rights by trying to make minorities have more rights than whites, and they are trying to destroy western civilization, and in the US, democracy. Caskur must be crazy if he/she thinks these are the good guys. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
I think anyone who listens to the lefturds and the right-whingers are coo-coo.
There are no good guys... NONE..Maybe Julian Assange. He's OK. I like him.
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I think anyone who listens to the lefturds and the right-whingers are coo-coo.
There are no good guys... NONE..Maybe Julian Assange. He's OK. I like him.
You are coo coo if you think there is a right at all in the West.
Can I suggest that there is a right, but there is not an "effective" right at all in the West
The left has taken over with a dedicated scorched earth policy & street rules actions that mow down everything in its path ... because the right is impotent and does not know how to "really" fight back
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I think anyone who listens to the lefturds and the right-whingers are coo-coo.
If the left gets their way you won't even be able to call them lefturds one day. They are destroying free speech, the right is not. The left are also trying to flood your country with more African and Muslim immigrants, not the true right. The left is also trying to make whites into second class citizens guilty of a past they had no part of, not the right.
But if you don;t want to recognize the real threat to your rights and well being, then be a sheep, I guess it's you're right, but don't be surprised when you end up in an ugly mess because of it.
Stop letting other people think for you, think for yourselves.
LOL... they are NEVER going to control my thoughts and speech mate... you can take that to the bank.
Just remember, women have had the vote in Western Australia since 1900... WAYYYYYY before most on the planet except NZ beat us by a year.
I can't believe most of you allow yourselve to be controlled.
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I think anyone who listens to the lefturds and the right-whingers are coo-coo.
If the left gets their way you won't even be able to call them lefturds one day. They are destroying free speech, the right is not. The left are also trying to flood your country with more African and Muslim immigrants, not the true right. The left is also trying to make whites into second class citizens guilty of a past they had no part of, not the right.
But if you don;t want to recognize the real threat to your rights and well being, then be a sheep, I guess it's you're right, but don't be surprised when you end up in an ugly mess because of it.
Anyone that denies how progs are trampling our liberties and our entire society is either in denial or a stooge of the prog machine.
Next week an ebola plague or earthquake somewhere will take your mind off other people's political leans... Stop blaming the other side for all your misery.
Go outside and pick some flowers or something.... what the fuck is wrong you guys? Shee-it!~.
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Stop letting other people think for you, think for yourselves.
LOL... they are NEVER going to control my thoughts and speech mate... you can take that to the bank.
Just remember, women have had the vote in Western Australia since 1900... WAYYYYYY before most on the planet except NZ beat us by a year.
I can't believe most of you allow yourselve to be controlled.
You don't even realize your complaints about immigration you launched into a while back on here would be illegal and fineable or imprisonable in many european countries because of the left. you can be a naive ostrich with your head in the sand for now, but one day you're going to get a rude awakening.
Flooding countries with immigrants is really really bad.... for BOTH parties. Taking people away from their extended families is wrong.
it's better to make your own country a better place and if that country needs help, help them.
I couldn't give a flying freight train what the mindless lefturds thought. I know my Fillipino aunty was lonely for her family in the Phillippines. There is no place like home. People are driven out of their homes from poverty. No middle class wants to leave their land... They love their homes. Only natural disasters or war moves people... And if that wanker Trump starts anything with Iran causing even more refugees, I hope someone puts a bullet between his eyes.
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You don't even realize your complaints about immigration you launched into a while back on here would be illegal and fineable or imprisonable in many european countries because of the left.
VVVV known about it for months...
Pensioner charged for calling neighbours 'tinks'
Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/pensioner-charged-for-calling-neighbours-tinks-1-3633613
And years...
VVV https://chalcedon.edu/resources/articles/swedish-pastor-faces-jail-for-preaching-against-homosexuality
Swedish Pastor Faces Jail for Preaching against Homosexuality
By Lee Duigon
November 15, 2005
A Swedish pastor who preached a sermon on the Biblical prohibitions against homosexual behavior is waiting to see if the Supreme Court of Sweden will send him to jail for six months for doing so.
https://chalcedon.edu/resources/articles/swedish-pastor-faces-jail-for-preaching-against-homosexuality
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I think anyone who listens to the lefturds and the right-whingers are coo-coo.
There are no good guys... NONE..Maybe Julian Assange. He's OK. I like him.
You are coo coo if you think there is a right at all in the West.
Old Joe thinks there is a political right in the West. All this continent has are varying degrees of progtardation.
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Old Joe thinks
Hold it right there... ac_wot
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Old Joe thinks
Hold it right there... ac_wot
True enough.