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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Bricktop on September 25, 2018, 06:45:24 PM

Title: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 25, 2018, 06:45:24 PM
Bill Cosby was once a stand up comic.



Well, that will hold him in good stead because he'll be doing a LOT of standing where he's going.



//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45644374



Once again, we see how easily actors dupe the world with their on screen personnas, and off screen villainy.



Apparently he was dubbed "America's Dad" by the celeb-worshipping US media, who utterly and constantly fail to grasp the simple reality that the person they see on television, or in the cinema, is ACTING. They are pretending to be someone they're not whilst hiding a swath of nasty little (and big) vices.



Off screen, many are worthless perverts, drunks, junkies and narcissistic nobodies. True, some are nice people, with great families.



I find it ironic that the king of heavy metal laced with satanic imagery and connotation is a far better man and father than this piece of scum who duped the world into believing his hype and masquerade.



Ozzy Osbourne is a better man by far.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
Bill Cosby was sentenced to three to ten years in prison and I feel that was lenient for a rapist..



But, I don't think Ozzy Osbourne is the type of father that should be held as an ideal either.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: caskur on September 25, 2018, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Bill Cosby was once a stand up comic.



Well, that will hold him in good stead because he'll be doing a LOT of standing where he's going.



//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45644374



Once again, we see how easily actors dupe the world with their on screen personnas, and off screen villainy.



Apparently he was dubbed "America's Dad" by the celeb-worshipping US media, who utterly and constantly fail to grasp the simple reality that the person they see on television, or in the cinema, is ACTING. They are pretending to be someone they're not whilst hiding a swath of nasty little (and big) vices.



Off screen, many are worthless perverts, drunks, junkies and narcissistic nobodies. True, some are nice people, with great families.



I find it ironic that the king of heavy metal laced with satanic imagery and connotation is a far better man and father than this piece of scum who duped the world into believing his hype and masquerade.



Ozzy Osbourne is a better man by far.






I partially blame victims in this instance but not because they invited it on themselves but the way Yanks hold up anything that appears on their TV sets to be Gods is just ridiculous. They fall over themselves to become celebs and the next best thing is to hang around one. The very last thing you'd want to be in the USA is "known" ...





Bill Crosby is a disgrace. It's very sad he's still given air-time. He's now getting likened to Jesus Christ claiming like Jesus, he's persecuted.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Bill Cosby was once a stand up comic.



Well, that will hold him in good stead because he'll be doing a LOT of standing where he's going.



//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45644374



Once again, we see how easily actors dupe the world with their on screen personnas, and off screen villainy.



Apparently he was dubbed "America's Dad" by the celeb-worshipping US media, who utterly and constantly fail to grasp the simple reality that the person they see on television, or in the cinema, is ACTING. They are pretending to be someone they're not whilst hiding a swath of nasty little (and big) vices.



Off screen, many are worthless perverts, drunks, junkies and narcissistic nobodies. True, some are nice people, with great families.



I find it ironic that the king of heavy metal laced with satanic imagery and connotation is a far better man and father than this piece of scum who duped the world into believing his hype and masquerade.



Ozzy Osbourne is a better man by far.






I partially blame victims in this instance but not because they invited it on themselves but the way Yanks hold up anything that appears on their TV sets to be Gods is just ridiculous. They fall over themselves to become celebs and the next best thing is to hang around one. The very last thing you'd want to be in the USA is "known" ...





Bill Crosby is a disgrace. It's very sad he's still given air-time. He's now getting likened to Jesus Christ claiming like Jesus, he's persecuted.

Actors anywhere tend to be a narcissistic bunch, but especially so in the USA.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2018, 11:38:33 PM
Bill Cosby has admitted he gave date rape drugs to women. I hope he dies in the slammer.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Berry Sweet on September 26, 2018, 12:27:48 AM
Quote from: "Herman"Bill Cosby has admitted he gave date rape drugs to women. I hope he dies in the slammer.


Or pounded in the ass daily.  I'm sure he'll be in PC.  Who knows...I heard the subway guy Jared got his ass kicked in prison.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2018, 06:59:40 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Herman"Bill Cosby has admitted he gave date rape drugs to women. I hope he dies in the slammer.


Or pounded in the ass daily.  I'm sure he'll be in PC.  Who knows...I heard the subway guy Jared got his ass kicked in prison.

His celebrity alone will make him a target.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 26, 2018, 07:20:54 PM
Although I support him being punished, I feel that putting an 80 year old man in gaol is not a just punishment.



I think people in his position...convicted in later years of crimes committed long ago...should face a different sanction.



Home detention with a MASSIVE fine that is substantial enough to strip him of all accrued wealth, so that his home would be a small cottage in a poor area, and a small amount for bills paid each week from his seized estate. if he is an entertainer, all future royalties will be paid into revenue.



He is thus imprisoned, stripped of his wealth and dignity, and is no burden on the taxpayer.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2018, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Although I support him being punished, I feel that putting an 80 year old man in gaol is not a just punishment.



I think people in his position...convicted in later years of crimes committed long ago...should face a different sanction.



Home detention with a MASSIVE fine that is substantial enough to strip him of all accrued wealth, so that his home would be a small cottage in a poor area, and a small amount for bills paid each week from his seized estate. if he is an entertainer, all future royalties will be paid into revenue.



He is thus imprisoned, stripped of his wealth and dignity, and is no burden on the taxpayer.

And some people think life in prison is justice considering he was a serial rapist..



Both arguments are legitimate.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 26, 2018, 08:43:23 PM
True.



It's just that prison costs US money, and these bastards are often very wealthy.



Take away their wealth and fame and make them live amongst the common people whilst restraining their movements. If they keep everything whilst in gaol, when they are released, they still live in opulence and privilege.



Strip them of everything...
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2018, 09:30:36 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"True.



It's just that prison costs US money, and these bastards are often very wealthy.



Take away their wealth and fame and make them live amongst the common people whilst restraining their movements. If they keep everything whilst in gaol, when they are released, they still live in opulence and privilege.



Strip them of everything...

What about a huge fine on top of pen time.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 26, 2018, 10:09:47 PM
More than a fine. A complete asset and financial strip. Turn them into paupers.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2018, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"More than a fine. A complete asset and financial strip. Turn them into paupers.

I have no problem with that at all.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2018, 07:25:11 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"More than a fine. A complete asset and financial strip. Turn them into paupers.

That seems reasonable, but not all the money should go to  government....their victims deserve some too.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 27, 2018, 06:57:24 PM
Of course.



It's time we added victim compensation to criminal penalties.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: caskur on September 27, 2018, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Although I support him being punished, I feel that putting an 80 year old man in gaol is not a just punishment.



I think people in his position...convicted in later years of crimes committed long ago...should face a different sanction.



Home detention with a MASSIVE fine that is substantial enough to strip him of all accrued wealth, so that his home would be a small cottage in a poor area, and a small amount for bills paid each week from his seized estate. if he is an entertainer, all future royalties will be paid into revenue.



He is thus imprisoned, stripped of his wealth and dignity, and is no burden on the taxpayer.




All those oldies with wealth can shift it to spouses or children and extended family BEFORE they're convicted. That's why. But I agree in principle, take their wealth where possible.





It'll be the Spannish Inquisition all over again.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 27, 2018, 08:24:31 PM
Once an investigation is begun, all assets are frozen.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2018, 09:15:17 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Once an investigation is begun, all assets are frozen.

That's good.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: caskur on September 28, 2018, 09:21:24 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Once an investigation is begun, all assets are frozen.


Is that the American law though?
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2018, 09:28:13 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Once an investigation is begun, all assets are frozen.


Is that the American law though?

It seems most European Union nations have similar laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_freezing
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: caskur on September 28, 2018, 11:21:43 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Once an investigation is begun, all assets are frozen.


Is that the American law though?

It seems most European Union nations have similar laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_freezing




How would they pay for lawyers to defend themselves?





I wonder if it's enforced.





In Australia, if you are caught manufacturing drugs or growing marijuana, they take all your property. I agree with that but I cannot see Americans having their money suspended when they state you are innocent until proven guilty, meaning, even a person under investigation is still an innocent person.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2018, 09:43:59 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Once an investigation is begun, all assets are frozen.


Is that the American law though?

It seems most European Union nations have similar laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_freezing




How would they pay for lawyers to defend themselves?





I wonder if it's enforced.





In Australia, if you are caught manufacturing drugs or growing marijuana, they take all your property. I agree with that but I cannot see Americans having their money suspended when they state you are innocent until proven guilty, meaning, even a person under investigation is still an innocent person.

If  they are proven innocent, they would get back full  access to their assets.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2018, 12:30:35 AM
The order is made upon conviction, but not implemented until 28 days afterwards. (In case of an appeal).
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2018, 12:42:24 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"The order is made upon conviction, but not implemented until 28 days afterwards. (In case of an appeal).

The cops here freeze assets regularly. What else would they do with organized crime.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2018, 01:07:57 AM
Freezing them isn't forfeiting them. Only a court order will strip assets from a criminal.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2018, 09:13:02 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"The order is made upon conviction, but not implemented until 28 days afterwards. (In case of an appeal).

The cops here freeze assets regularly. What else would they do with organized crime.

Until a verdict is reached by a court.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2018, 06:02:39 PM
...and the appeal period has expired...or the appeal fails.
Title: Re: Another "celeb" goes down.
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2018, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"...and the appeal period has expired...or the appeal fails.

Of course and that's what I meant.