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Ok 'Herm', time to get down to the nitty gritty.....



Why don't you support white nationalism?



Is it because you have Jewish ancestry like your fave CC, or is it due to you having an Asian missus?



Surely you must have realised by now that a nationalist, pro white leadership is our only route of escape from the Globalist insanity?



Check out Hungary's Viktor Orban if you are still unsure...

I have no idea what white nationalism is even after you explained it. Does that mean all the various European ethniciities in a diverse country like France are suddenly a collective? And being a descendent of those who fled Holodomor , that word collective bothers me.



I support nationalists like Orban, Matteo Salvini, Trump, Netanyahu and the Law and Justice Party in Poland. A government's job is to protect the economic and cultural interests of the nation. Our prime minister is the biggest globalist cheerleader in the world.I can't stand him.



I think people would understand you a lot more if you said you were a pro Brexit British nationalist. You oppose mass immigration of unskilled and unassimilatable migrants. And if said you oppose nternational organizations like the UN, EU, plus the Paris Climate Accord because they steal British sovereignty and British taxpayers money, I think you might be on to something people can sink their teeth into.



Edit, the old lady is a nationalist too.

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White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

Quote from: "cc"Might be the solution. Let me think it through  before tabling it

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White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

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Quote from: "SCOUSE"
White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

Okay, what if some Ashknazis, Orientals, and Pakis oppose the EU, the UN and the Paris Accord? And what if some white Brits support this cancer as many do? Who is your ally and who isn't?



And speaking of Britain, are all the white ethnicities supposed to forget their own nationalism and unite under one identity? Lots of Poles in Britain are proud of their own heritage and may not like your big tent idea which smacks of another EU.



Stick to British nationalism and let other European ethnicities stick to theirs.

Quote from: "Wazzzup"Scouse I was wondering-- if a person supports israel, but wants no part of third world immigration, what would you say that person is, a zionist or white nationalist or something else?



BTW I don't really like the moniker white nationalist. I like antiprog and/or anti globalist better.  I think that fits me better..

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White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

Okay, what if some Ashknazis, Orientals, and Pakis oppose the EU, the UN and the Paris Accord? And what if some white Brits support this cancer as many do? Who is your ally and who isn't?



And speaking of Britain, are all the white ethnicities supposed to forget their own nationalism and unite under one identity? Lots of Poles in Britain are proud of their own heritage and may not like your big tent idea which smacks of another EU.



Stick to British nationalism and let other European ethnicities stick to theirs.

Poles along with other Eastern Europeans are white, sure there are numerous economical problems which mass migration of these people bring, but if there was a choice of swapping these Eastern European migrants for the droves of unwanted turd world filth currently residing here I would choose the former each and every time.

Quote from: "Wazzzup"I know its not your point, but Scouse should want to welcome as many poles and other eastern europeans into the UK as possible. They are way more anti third world immigration than most white UKers.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"I know its not your point, but Scouse should want to welcome as many poles and other eastern europeans into the UK as possible. They are way more anti third world immigration than most white UKers.

I totally agree. But, so is my Chinese old lady.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"I know its not your point, but Scouse should want to welcome as many poles and other eastern europeans into the UK as possible. They are way more anti third world immigration than most white UKers.

I totally agree. But, so is my Chinese old lady.

I'm glad you married smart woman,  I lucked out in finding one too.  while certainly there is a racial angle to politics, character and values matter far more.



I am concerned that whites are projected to be the minority in america in 20 years or so.  but I am far more concerned with hispanics voting 70% democrat than I am about skin color.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"I know its not your point, but Scouse should want to welcome as many poles and other eastern europeans into the UK as possible. They are way more anti third world immigration than most white UKers.

I totally agree. But, so is my Chinese old lady.

I'm glad you married smart woman,  I lucked out in finding one too.  while certainly there is a racial angle to politics, character and values matter far more.



I am concerned that whites are projected to be the minority in america in 20 years or so.  but I am far more concerned with hispanics voting 70% democrat than I am about skin color.

Shen Li told me recently that Chinese who have have been in Canada more than ten years and own their own home are the most reliably Conservative voters in Canada..



I suspect it's true of most Asians.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"I know its not your point, but Scouse should want to welcome as many poles and other eastern europeans into the UK as possible. They are way more anti third world immigration than most white UKers.

I totally agree. But, so is my Chinese old lady.

I'm glad you married smart woman,  I lucked out in finding one too.  while certainly there is a racial angle to politics, character and values matter far more.



I am concerned that whites are projected to be the minority in america in 20 years or so.  but I am far more concerned with hispanics voting 70% democrat than I am about skin color.

Shen Li told me recently that Chinese who have have been in Canada more than ten years and own their own home are the most reliably Conservative voters in Canada..



I suspect it's true of most Asians.

Well that's good if I were a canuck I'd want to bring in educated chinese.  I have to wonder though, are chinese more conservative because they have fled a communist country, or are other asians just as conservative?



Cuban Hispanics tend to vote republican way more than other Hispanics because they have lived under communism. unfortunately I have heard this usually does not carry into the next generation.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"I know its not your point, but Scouse should want to welcome as many poles and other eastern europeans into the UK as possible. They are way more anti third world immigration than most white UKers.

I totally agree. But, so is my Chinese old lady.

I'm glad you married smart woman,  I lucked out in finding one too.  while certainly there is a racial angle to politics, character and values matter far more.



I am concerned that whites are projected to be the minority in america in 20 years or so.  but I am far more concerned with hispanics voting 70% democrat than I am about skin color.

Shen Li told me recently that Chinese who have have been in Canada more than ten years and own their own home are the most reliably Conservative voters in Canada..



I suspect it's true of most Asians.

Well that's good if I were a canuck I'd want to bring in educated chinese.  I have to wonder though, are chinese more conservative because they have fled a communist country, or are other asians just as conservative?



Cuban Hispanics tend to vote republican way more than other Hispanics because they have lived under communism. unfortunately I have heard this usually does not carry into the next generation.

I'm from a very anti communist country and if I vote, I am leaning towards Conservative..



And you sir are the reason I'm doing something I said I never do and that is take an active interest in politics..



You lit the fire Wazzzup.

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White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

Most white people in Britain under the age of 40 are extreme left wing globalists/commies. Islam is anti-capitalist too.



Solution is obvious. Deport all white Brits to the Middle East and offer citizenship to everyone in Poland and China. Good anti-prog stock in both countries.

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White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

Okay, what if some Ashknazis, Orientals, and Pakis oppose the EU, the UN and the Paris Accord? And what if some white Brits support this cancer as many do? Who is your ally and who isn't?



And speaking of Britain, are all the white ethnicities supposed to forget their own nationalism and unite under one identity? Lots of Poles in Britain are proud of their own heritage and may not like your big tent idea which smacks of another EU.



Stick to British nationalism and let other European ethnicities stick to theirs.

Poles along with other Eastern Europeans are white, sure there are numerous economical problems which mass migration of these people bring, but if there was a choice of swapping these Eastern European migrants for the droves of unwanted turd world filth currently residing here I would choose the former each and every time.

But, you still haven't answered the question. Would they abandon Polish nationalism for "white" nationalism. If you are opposed to globalization why would they cede their Polish sovereignty for another another version of the EU? It makes no sense.



Stick with British nationalism and the tell the globalist white nationalists their retarded proposals are unworkable.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"Scouse, if you wouldn't mind can you please define for me as specifically as possible- what what in your view a zionist is and what a white nationalist is.  TIA

White Nationalists = Pro white activists who oppose the Globalist endorsed genocide and displacement of white people in their homelands.



Zionists = Jewish supremacists who support a Jewish homeland while at the same time being silent or in favour of state sponsored multiculturalism and mass immigration in white countries.

QuoteHorowitz has in the past compared the multiracial, nonviolent (LOL) Black Lives Matter movement to the Ku Klux Klan and regularly raises the specter of "islamofascism." The "real race war," he has declared, is against white people.

QuoteIt's very clear that his view of immigration is exactly what it has been in this country for 200 years until Ted Kennedy revised all the (expletive) laws. The Democrats did this. You can't have a country with no borders. Trump is 100% right."

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"Scouse, if you wouldn't mind can you please define for me as specifically as possible- what what in your view a zionist is and what a white nationalist is.  TIA

White Nationalists = Pro white activists who oppose the Globalist endorsed genocide and displacement of white people in their homelands.



Zionists = Jewish supremacists who support a Jewish homeland while at the same time being silent or in favour of state sponsored multiculturalism and mass immigration in white countries.

David Horowitz is Jewish, but here's what the SPLC said about him, he is an "anti-muslim fanatic" and has "become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements." and put him on their ridiculous, politically motivated, "hate list"

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/david-horowitz

QuoteHorowitz has in the past compared the multiracial, nonviolent (LOL) Black Lives Matter movement to the Ku Klux Klan and regularly raises the specter of "islamofascism." The "real race war," he has declared, is against white people.

While taking about the architect of Trump's immigration policy Horowitz said this--

QuoteIt's very clear that his view of immigration is exactly what it has been in this country for 200 years until Ted Kennedy revised all the (expletive) laws. The Democrats did this. You can't have a country with no borders. Trump is 100% right."

So it seems like he qualifies as sort of a a white nationalist even though he's Jewish? Correct?

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"Scouse, if you wouldn't mind can you please define for me as specifically as possible- what what in your view a zionist is and what a white nationalist is.  TIA

White Nationalists = Pro white activists who oppose the Globalist endorsed genocide and displacement of white people in their homelands.



Zionists = Jewish supremacists who support a Jewish homeland while at the same time being silent or in favour of state sponsored multiculturalism and mass immigration in white countries.

David Horowitz is Jewish, but here's what the SPLC said about him, he is an "anti-muslim fanatic" and has "become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements." and put him on their ridiculous, politically motivated, "hate list"

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/david-horowitz

QuoteHorowitz has in the past compared the multiracial, nonviolent (LOL) Black Lives Matter movement to the Ku Klux Klan and regularly raises the specter of "islamofascism." The "real race war," he has declared, is against white people.

While taking about the architect of Trump's immigration policy Horowitz said this--

QuoteIt's very clear that his view of immigration is exactly what it has been in this country for 200 years until Ted Kennedy revised all the (expletive) laws. The Democrats did this. You can't have a country with no borders. Trump is 100% right."

So it seems like he qualifies as sort of a a white nationalist even though he's Jewish? Correct?

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"Scouse, if you wouldn't mind can you please define for me as specifically as possible- what what in your view a zionist is and what a white nationalist is.  TIA

White Nationalists = Pro white activists who oppose the Globalist endorsed genocide and displacement of white people in their homelands.



Zionists = Jewish supremacists who support a Jewish homeland while at the same time being silent or in favour of state sponsored multiculturalism and mass immigration in white countries.

David Horowitz is Jewish, but here's what the SPLC said about him, he is an "anti-muslim fanatic" and has "become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements." and put him on their ridiculous, politically motivated, "hate list"

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/david-horowitz

QuoteHorowitz has in the past compared the multiracial, nonviolent (LOL) Black Lives Matter movement to the Ku Klux Klan and regularly raises the specter of "islamofascism." The "real race war," he has declared, is against white people.

While taking about the architect of Trump's immigration policy Horowitz said this--

QuoteIt's very clear that his view of immigration is exactly what it has been in this country for 200 years until Ted Kennedy revised all the (expletive) laws. The Democrats did this. You can't have a country with no borders. Trump is 100% right."

So it seems like he qualifies as sort of a a white nationalist even though he's Jewish? Correct?

Horowitz is a great guy.

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White Nationalism in a nutshell consists of pro white beliefs which directly oppose the left wing and Globalist agendas which are causing all the problems we are seeing today in white countries. By white people, I mean white European Caucasians, not Jews or Muslim converts, and the goal is to preserve our nation's identity, culture and heritage, as opposed to allow it to be transformed into something foreign thanks to sustained mass third world immigration which is being enforced by the treacherous establishment.



Hardly sounds like the hysterical stereotype peddled by our enemies of 'Nazis who gassed 6 million Jooz!!' does it?



As for Pro Brexit British Nationalist, I like the sound of that.  ac_biggrin

Most white people in Britain under the age of 40 are extreme left wing globalists/commies. Islam is anti-capitalist too.



Solution is obvious. Deport all white Brits to the Middle East and offer citizenship to everyone in Poland and China. Good anti-prog stock in both countries.

Why do you think that is? Kids these days are indoctrinated with leftist garbage from an early age.



Like I've said before, there needs to be an investigation into what gets taught in academia and left leaning teachers and lecturers should be struck off.

QuoteWhy do you think that is? Kids these days are indoctrinated with leftist garbage from an early age.



Like I've said before, there needs to be an investigation into what gets taught in academia and left leaning teachers and lecturers should be struck off.

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QuoteWhy do you think that is? Kids these days are indoctrinated with leftist garbage from an early age.



Like I've said before, there needs to be an investigation into what gets taught in academia and left leaning teachers and lecturers should be struck off.

That most of us agree on .. it's not a novel idea ... If you had been listening instead of talking, accusing and blaming boogymen,



you would have realized  it is what most if not all have been saying all along



We all know that the left controls education and turns it into indoctrination ... and into support for wholesale immigration to name one of the evils of the left



We all know that the left is FAR more dedicated than any others and has worked its ways into education, govt in general, the press etc. ... while those who do not like it do little / are not as driven to put things right



Seems only the US has a pushback / replacement operation in motion of late, but I'm still not convinced they really know what they are up against and if they can make long term change



Europe, Canada  and UK are lost causes. Former right have become middle to left  .... Example, May is supposedly a "conservative" .. when in actuality she is about where Blair was during his term .... our own "conservatives"  are center  at best and a bit left at worse

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QuoteFormer right have become middle to left

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QuoteFormer right have become middle to left

(while left has gone into crazyland)



As for JoeJoe, I mainly ignore his stupid rants. Everything he says is from his screwy mind and not from reality ... and he posts mainly to pad his saggy ego

Further, he has a DEEP internalized hatred for the US, so cannot speak without that influencing him

Quote from: "cc"Agreed!! That covers it well. Well put!!!



Now, a "realistic" / actually possible  alternative? ... I'm open to anything at this point



So far no country has taken me up on my "Benevolent Dictator" offer





I guess we can rule out National Socialism?  ac_smile

Quote from: "cc"Seems that road of technology is getting narrow fast .... instead of govts it's huge private industry applying extreme censorship and limiting honest  discussion ... unless it's in the direction they wish it to be



I find this really scary because it's real and effective



Note: Just before last election I recall testing Google with "election" (and even "Trump")

Clinton came up most of the time ... and always in a good light

When Trump "did"  came up it was mostly in a negative light

Quote from: "cc"Seems that road of technology is getting narrow fast .... instead of govts it's huge private industry applying extreme censorship and limiting honest  discussion ... unless it's in the direction they wish it to be



I find this really scary because it's real and effective

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Quote from: "cc"Seems that road of technology is getting narrow fast .... instead of govts it's huge private industry applying extreme censorship and limiting honest  discussion ... unless it's in the direction they wish it to be



I find this really scary because it's real and effective

I knew as soon as government people like Merkel started telling social media they had to go after "fake news" that they were going to use it as an excuse to start censoring antiprog views, and voila then it began.



As if that wasn't bad enough, along with it corporations are starting to become prog activist-like as well. Nike did the Colin Kaepernick ad.  Starbucks did its "ask a barista about race" silliness.  Several airlines said they would stop flying illegals home.  Hyatt just banned "hate groups" from their hotels.  (trouble is these aren't hate groups they are groups like Jihad watch that the SPLC falsely lists has hate groups.)



It's a scary messed up totalitarian world the left is trying to create.

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Quote from: "cc"Seems that road of technology is getting narrow fast .... instead of govts it's huge private industry applying extreme censorship and limiting honest  discussion ... unless it's in the direction they wish it to be



I find this really scary because it's real and effective

I knew as soon as government people like Merkel started telling social media they had to go after "fake news" that they were going to use it as an excuse to start censoring antiprog views, and voila then it began.



As if that wasn't bad enough, along with it corporations are starting to become prog activist-like as well. Nike did the Colin Kaepernick ad.  Starbucks did its "ask a barista about race" silliness.  Several airlines said they would stop flying illegals home.  Hyatt just banned "hate groups" from their hotels.  (trouble is these aren't hate groups they are groups like Jihad watch that the SPLC falsely lists has hate groups.)



It's a scary messed up totalitarian world the left is trying to create.

It bothers me that corporations are taking political sides. There is a cosmetics company called LUSH that took a political side and had it backfire on them. In their infinite stupidity, they came up with a campaign that Alberta oilsands oil will not be used in any of their products. The boycott LUSH movement was almost immediate and big. I haven't heard anymore about it for years, so I assume LUSH backed down.

Quote from: "Bricktop"How's Nike doing?