I know it's a huge country, so if you post, use your area for prices..
I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
We have made our decision and we will settle in Panama in five and a half yeas. But, I too wouldn't mind getting an idea of how much is needed to live in Brazil, for comparison sake.
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
This has the potential to be an interesting thread. Like a travel show.
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
We have made our decision and we will settle in Panama in five and a half yeas. But, I too wouldn't mind getting an idea of how much is needed to live in Brazil, for comparison sake.
Why Panama?
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
This has the potential to be an interesting thread. Like a travel show.
Bricktop and DD listed prices for some groceries where they live which I found interesting to compare with our own.
Just see the Canadians here looking to take what this country has given them and bail. Ironic that they are the ones been most vocal of the unfairness of companies offshoring business in the past. Shame on you
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How did the world's worst poster get out of RR?
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This is the last time you drive by and derail our discussions with personal attacks.
BALLSONARO, do you golf? If you do, how is the golfing where you live?
I hear the entire Latin-America is like Disneyland... For men.
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That leaves out eh ma'am.
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
We have made our decision and we will settle in Panama in five and a half yeas. But, I too wouldn't mind getting an idea of how much is needed to live in Brazil, for comparison sake.
Why Panama?
Cost of living, amenities, ease of visas, safety is better than most places in Central America.
Say Balls: Just so you know, Dad was a steel mill Engineer in Hamilton Ontario (Stelco), retired and and then directed Brazil toward significant production of steel
Mom & Dad lived there for several years .. so I got many tales of their life in Brazil.
Their fondness for your country was contagious and gave me a fondness for your country
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Excuse me, it's you TIDES foundation shills that have shipped eighty billion dollars in investment and 110,000 good paying resource based jobs to the US and overseas. This costs Canada up to one hundred million dollars a day.
Some people can no afford to live here and don't see a future here for future generations. Shame on us?? SHAME ON YOU.
I found Brazil frickin expensive.
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
We have made our decision and we will settle in Panama in five and a half yeas. But, I too wouldn't mind getting an idea of how much is needed to live in Brazil, for comparison sake.
Why Panama?
Cost of living, amenities, ease of visas, safety is better than most places in Central America.
You should consider Australia, as many of your coutrymen do.
It ticks all those boxes, and is a whole lot safer than any South American nation.
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I was wondering about rent/home ownership, utilities, fuel, groceries, medium priced restaurants, and anything else you might want to add..
I was always curious about this since you joined us.
We have made our decision and we will settle in Panama in five and a half yeas. But, I too wouldn't mind getting an idea of how much is needed to live in Brazil, for comparison sake.
Why Panama?
Cost of living, amenities, ease of visas, safety is better than most places in Central America.
You should consider Australia, as many of your coutrymen do.
It ticks all those boxes, and is a whole lot safer than any South American nation.
Having been to both countries, I can confirm his railroad pension will go a lot further in Panama than Aus.
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Balls?
:negative:
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Excuse me, it's you TIDES foundation shills that have shipped eighty billion dollars in investment and 110,000 good paying resource based jobs to the US and overseas. This costs Canada up to one hundred million dollars a day.
Some people can no afford to live here and don't see a future here for future generations. Shame on us?? SHAME ON YOU.
Oscar hates Trump for bringing jobs back to America and sucks True Dope's cock for sending middle class jobs abroad.
Nonsensical libtards like Oscar are a good example of why universal suffrage should be abolished.
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Balls?
:negative:
Affectionate shortened nickname for our great poster "BALLS"ONARO .. previously known as Red
Hmmm....ooookkkkkk
Ballsonarao still hasn't posted in this thread yet.
Still celebrating, probably.
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Good point.
Dunno. He's sharp and has all the characteristics of a fighter for what matters.
I'm guessin he will be busy in or leading the front lines for the guy he believes is good for his country
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The same for both sexes. Levels of discretion are the only real difference.
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I'm guessin he will be busy in or leading the front lines for the guy he believes is good for his country
Yes, he is.
Here's some really good areal shots of Brazil
https://www.bing.com/images/search?&q=South+Zone%2c+Rio+de+Janeiro&qft=+filterui:photo-photo&FORM=wsbs01
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https://www.bing.com/images/search?&q=South+Zone%2c+Rio+de+Janeiro&qft=+filterui:photo-photo&FORM=wsbs01
I have only seen a tiny fraction of Brazil when I worked offshore there.
My folks lived there a few years. Dad was a steel production Engineer at Stelco, retired early and went to help Brazil set up a huge mill
They really liked it, but of course they were well taken care of by the govt
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They really liked it, but of course they were well taken care of by the govt
Where in Brazil? I have only been to the Eastern coastal areas. I know Argentina better. My kid brother is married to an Italian Argie.
Rio as I recall.
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Yes ma'am.
I stayed in rio for a week in the early 80s. Beautiful place. I took a cable car up to sugarloaf mountain, saw corpus Christie and ate Chateaubriand. I also liked watching the girls and their tiny bikinis on the sunny beach. I went to a strip club and met a hooker and spent two nights with her (she was clean and beautiful not at all crack whore-like) One of the American tourists staying at our hotel got robbed and killed.
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Sorry I missed this.
So, over here, some things are expensive, others, not so much.
Someone who has dollars to spend here should be fine, considering $1 = R$3,75 right now. Shouldn't go lower than 3 in the long run either, since exports would suffer too much. Our hope for the future is that wages go up, but not the dollar, that's who things really improve here.
2 pounds of beef, for example, should cost you between 7 or 8 dollars, in a not too expensive city and market, good quality too, it's what I pay
U$2,000 a month would make you upper middle class here if you don't have kids, but a family of 4 could still live comfortably outside of the usual expensive suspects, like Rio or Sao Paulo.
A good house where I live, which is considered an ok city (used to be a lot better) and other middle class boroughs here would cost you around U$200k. With U$500k, you get a mansion with pool and all amenities in a private condo.
Cars and electronics are another story, taxes make them very expensive, the same goes for fuel (right now, it's around 5 dollars a gallon for regular)
Electricity is always very expensive, running A/Cs is now bit of a luxury here.
We have free socialized healthcare, depending on where you live is ok for basic stuff, but you definitely should consider a private plan. Also not expensive when it comes to American price standards
In short, everything imported is expensive, real market is gold if you have dollars to spend.
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They really liked it, but of course they were well taken care of by the govt
When was that, which decade?
Sounds fairly inexpensive by global standards, or at least on a par with most western first world economies.
So what is the cause of the extreme violence and high murder rate? This is not usual in healthy economic countries.
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They really liked it, but of course they were well taken care of by the govt
When was that, which decade?
It would be more appropriate to ask cc which CENTURY.
ac_toofunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO4DPI1hegc
That's 2 strikes ac_smile
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So what is the cause of the extreme violence and high murder rate? This is not usual in healthy economic countries.
Shitty culture
Extreme professional victimism
Liberals filling the heads of people with idiotic ideologies and behavior
Brazil is a huge tropical country. It's easy to live here as a hobo, since there's no winter and food is plenty nowadays
There's also the fact that much of the cocaine produced in places like Peru and Bolivia come thru here.
Brazilians like to hit the bottle a lot, they like drugs and we're a "diverse" society.
And 15 years ago, they started treating the criminals like the victims and tied the hands of the police and the justice.
If there's a place where crime actually pays, it's here.
A couple good scores can yield what someone would need to work for years to make at minimum wage, and it's fairly easy to get away with it
So, is this a "coloured" thing?
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So, over here, some things are expensive, others, not so much.
Someone who has dollars to spend here should be fine, considering $1 = R$3,75 right now. Shouldn't go lower than 3 in the long run either, since exports would suffer too much. Our hope for the future is that wages go up, but not the dollar, that's who things really improve here.
2 pounds of beef, for example, should cost you between 7 or 8 dollars, in a not too expensive city and market, good quality too, it's what I pay
U$2,000 a month would make you upper middle class here if you don't have kids, but a family of 4 could still live comfortably outside of the usual expensive suspects, like Rio or Sao Paulo.
A good house where I live, which is considered an ok city (used to be a lot better) and other middle class boroughs here would cost you around U$200k. With U$500k, you get a mansion with pool and all amenities in a private condo.
Cars and electronics are another story, taxes make them very expensive, the same goes for fuel (right now, it's around 5 dollars a gallon for regular)
Electricity is always very expensive, running A/Cs is now bit of a luxury here.
We have free socialized healthcare, depending on where you live is ok for basic stuff, but you definitely should consider a private plan. Also not expensive when it comes to American price standards
In short, everything imported is expensive, real market is gold if you have dollars to spend.
Rio is not cheap at all. Nor is Sao Paulo like you said. Beef quality in Brazil and Argentina is second to none.
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So, over here, some things are expensive, others, not so much.
Someone who has dollars to spend here should be fine, considering $1 = R$3,75 right now. Shouldn't go lower than 3 in the long run either, since exports would suffer too much. Our hope for the future is that wages go up, but not the dollar, that's who things really improve here.
2 pounds of beef, for example, should cost you between 7 or 8 dollars, in a not too expensive city and market, good quality too, it's what I pay
U$2,000 a month would make you upper middle class here if you don't have kids, but a family of 4 could still live comfortably outside of the usual expensive suspects, like Rio or Sao Paulo.
A good house where I live, which is considered an ok city (used to be a lot better) and other middle class boroughs here would cost you around U$200k. With U$500k, you get a mansion with pool and all amenities in a private condo.
Cars and electronics are another story, taxes make them very expensive, the same goes for fuel (right now, it's around 5 dollars a gallon for regular)
Electricity is always very expensive, running A/Cs is now bit of a luxury here.
We have free socialized healthcare, depending on where you live is ok for basic stuff, but you definitely should consider a private plan. Also not expensive when it comes to American price standards
In short, everything imported is expensive, real market is gold if you have dollars to spend.
It doesn't seem to be a bargain for Canadians.
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
What is wrong with Portuguese culture..
Portugal has economic problems, but it's still a first world nation.
There is a new poster here by the name of balls?
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So, over here, some things are expensive, others, not so much.
Someone who has dollars to spend here should be fine, considering $1 = R$3,75 right now. Shouldn't go lower than 3 in the long run either, since exports would suffer too much. Our hope for the future is that wages go up, but not the dollar, that's who things really improve here.
2 pounds of beef, for example, should cost you between 7 or 8 dollars, in a not too expensive city and market, good quality too, it's what I pay
U$2,000 a month would make you upper middle class here if you don't have kids, but a family of 4 could still live comfortably outside of the usual expensive suspects, like Rio or Sao Paulo.
A good house where I live, which is considered an ok city (used to be a lot better) and other middle class boroughs here would cost you around U$200k. With U$500k, you get a mansion with pool and all amenities in a private condo.
Cars and electronics are another story, taxes make them very expensive, the same goes for fuel (right now, it's around 5 dollars a gallon for regular)
Electricity is always very expensive, running A/Cs is now bit of a luxury here.
We have free socialized healthcare, depending on where you live is ok for basic stuff, but you definitely should consider a private plan. Also not expensive when it comes to American price standards
In short, everything imported is expensive, real market is gold if you have dollars to spend.
Thanks B. Good to know stuff.
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LOL this is RBN aka Rancid. It's a tribute to Bolsonaro, the first Brazilian president with BALLS this country has had in a long time.
It sure is "fitting"
I addressed your new nick once as "Balls", meant only in the best light .. So I assume that's OK?
I'm sure it is, labia....
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
Does Brazil have a yearly immigration target like this country does?
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
Does Brazil have a yearly immigration target like this country does?
We just don't care, they come and go as they please
I mean, there's so much wrong stuff here, it's hard to make your presence noted LOL
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I addressed your new nick once as "Balls", meant only in the best light .. So I assume that's OK?
No problemo CC, like I said, it sounded nice in English
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
Does Brazil have a yearly immigration target like this country does?
We just don't care, they come and go as they please
I mean, there's so much wrong stuff here, it's hard to make your presence noted LOL
You are not frickin serious are you?
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
Does Brazil have a yearly immigration target like this country does?
We just don't care, they come and go as they please
I mean, there's so much wrong stuff here, it's hard to make your presence noted LOL
You are not frickin serious are you?
Many Syrian refugees would come here, stay a couple months and then just go somewhere else
They said the lack of safety here and in Syria was practically the same.
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
Does Brazil have a yearly immigration target like this country does?
We just don't care, they come and go as they please
I mean, there's so much wrong stuff here, it's hard to make your presence noted LOL
You are not frickin serious are you?
Many Syrian refugees would come here, stay a couple months and then just go somewhere else
They said the lack of safety here and in Syria was practically the same.
What about migrants from Venezuela, Peru and Bolivia? I think Chile, Uruguay or Argie are the preferred destinations.
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Ok, the huge number is murders is mostly their doing, they kill each other a lot in the slums
But Brazil being a fuck up is also related to the Portuguese culture
It's the whole set of things.
Does Brazil have a yearly immigration target like this country does?
We just don't care, they come and go as they please
I mean, there's so much wrong stuff here, it's hard to make your presence noted LOL
You are not frickin serious are you?
Many Syrian refugees would come here, stay a couple months and then just go somewhere else
They said the lack of safety here and in Syria was practically the same.
What about migrants from Venezuela, Peru and Bolivia? I think Chile, Uruguay or Argie are the preferred destinations.
They have been creating problems here and there, Bolivians seem to be really adapting to the criminal reality here
Of course, the cops mostly hide these crimes to avoid people expelling foreigners from here.
Brazil is a pussified country right now, maybe Bolsonaro will change it
But I fear that just like in the US, the people and the other governmental bodies are too infested by lefties.
Same way Trump doesn't seem to be able to stop illegal immigration in the US, we would never be able to stop it here
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But I fear that just like in the US, the people and the other governmental bodies are too infested by lefties.
Same way Trump doesn't seem to be able to stop illegal immigration in the US, we would never be able to stop it here
Illegal immigration is down and deportations are up under Trump. That will be reversed when Trump loses in 2020. The Democrats have gone bat shit crazy. They want open borders.
I hope Ballsonaro the very best in stamping out illegal immigration. A nation with open borders is not an independent real country.
Speaking of illegal immigration to Chile
Waves of Migrants Head to Chile, Putting a Strain on Services
Chileans are learning the downside of being an economic success story. Waves of migrants from poorer Latin American countries are coming to Chile, putting a strain on social services and causing local resentment. It is beginning to become as politicized as in the United States and Europe.
Chile has one of Latin America's strongest and steadily growing economies, with a projected increase in GDP of over 4 percent this year. Chile also has low levels of corruption and the region's highest per capita income of $15,000.
As a result, immigration to Chile has more than tripled in the last two years, from 462,000 in 2015 to approximately 2 million in 2017, raising the foreign-born portion of the population to 7 percent from less than 3 percent.
Stricter U.S. barriers
The influx is partly the result of migrants flooding out of Venezuela in the wake of that country's economic collapse. Venezuelans are being accepted in Chile as political refugees. Many of them have educated, middle-class backgrounds and professional qualifications that facilitate their assimilation.
Stricter U.S. barriers to immigration could also be diverting migrant flows away from established North American routes and toward Latin America's wealthy southern cone countries, including Argentina, where large numbers of Colombians and other Caribbean migrants are arriving.
"No other country in South America has been impacted as much by immigration as Chile," said interior ministry immigration official Mijail Bonito. In a country where extreme poverty had all but disappeared, immigrant ghettos — where entire families share 2 x 2 meter spaces in rickety dormitory shacks and tent cities — are now spreading.
https://www.voanews.com/a/waves-of-migrants-head-to-chile-putting-a-strain-on-services/4516710.html
Did Rancid change his name ?
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Yes, I believe he said that is his handle on TRF.
Rancidmilko.
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I haven't taken a look in there in a while. I remember his handle there though. Some people there don't like him. Libtards mostly.
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I haven't taken a look in there in a while. I remember his handle there though. Some people there don't like him. Libtards mostly.
I don't care, I like BALLSONARO very much.
ac_smile
Rancid is cool. I hope all is well with him
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From what he's told us, I think any problems are caused by being a citizen of Brazil. I used to want to go there until he told us the realities of his country.