Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare (//https)
Also Soros, CNN, the former CIA hack, etc.
Settle it at the ballot box. Vote, them out, idiot
Latest says the first ones examined had no detonators .... awaiting more officially on that from the FBI before mentioning the significance
"Investigative journalist Adam Housley spoke to federal agents who said the fact that none of the bombs detonated is more significant that people may realize."
We'll see if that is true as it unfolds - It's still pretty a fresh situation .. too soon for any conclusions
What we do know for certain at this moment is many were sent and that none have exploded
Bombs to Clinton and Obama, and others.
//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45969100
Hate and anger rises, thanks in large part to the rabid left.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. America's fragmentation will become more and more violent, and less and less likely to be remediated any time in the near future.
Whilst violence is to be abhorred, we must also recognise that the ballot box now settles nothing.
The entire principle of democracy..majority rules...is unravelling faster than accusations of Russian meddling in the US election.
As a society, we are less and less likely to accept the rule and authority of a government that does not conform to our own ideological values. This is the fracture in the whole principle of modern elected government.
When they get in, we will resist. They do not govern on MY behalf.
Democracy as we know it is in it's death throes.
It is
Strange things about all this:
- So many, yet none exploded
- Even the least informed would know that this sort of person does not open their own mail - In fact, it is opened at locations far from them = no harm can come to them
So, what is going on here?
We will be told in the very near future if they were even viable or were even meant to explode
It wouldn't surprise me if the Dems did it. Trying to regain all they lost.
Not as silly as it sounds, really.
False flag operation.
Probably the left doing it in the lead up to mid terms.
Yeah, kiebers made the same comment.
Interesting theory and not without merit.
Which would almost certainly guarantee that the offender will never be caught, because the left controls the FBI.
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Probably the left doing it in the lead up to mid terms.
This is my guess. Seems too much like a false flag to me. I mean come on, none of them detonated.
Exactly.
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Yeah, kiebers made the same comment.
Interesting theory and not without merit.
Which would almost certainly guarantee that the offender will never be caught, because the left controls the FBI.
They had paid instigators in crowds before, paid internet trolls, and they are part of the "swamp", of course its a set up to make the right look bad, they will do this at all costs, trust me. THEY are part of the FBI, not so much THE left, though the left is deep in the trenches. THEY like their puppets, and Trump is an expensive puppet that seems to do what he wants to a degree.
You should write political thrillers!!!
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You should write political thrillers!!!
Ha! I just reread my last post in the voice of that guy that does voices for trailers, you're right :laugh:
"Trump shows no mercy, lets nothing slide. Hes out for vengeance and he just may get it. In.... Attack of the Leftys, Trump Strikes Back".
Hmmm...."The Trumpire Strikes Back"
We could do a movie...I could get the cuz to reprise Wicket The Ewok!!!!
Packin The Glock!!!
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Probably the left doing it in the lead up to mid terms.
hmmm
ac_umm
Quote from: "cc"
Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare (//https)
Also Soros, CNN, the former CIA hack, etc.
Settle it at the ballot box. Vote, them out, idiot
They were talking about this at work today.
Yeah, read up on the bombs. It's a hoax.
None detonated, all sent to Democratic fuckwits, and it's being used against Trump and the Repubs already.
Libs did it to themselves.
False flag on Dems by Dems.
Could well be. Some bomb disposal experts are wary of what is shown in images ... many things about them don't add up
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False flag on Dems by Dems.
If that is true and it's discovered before the election, it will mean Democrats lose.
I rarely subscribe to your daffy conspiracy theories and whacko beliefs, but on this occasion you may well be right.
Why send bombs that don't and won't detonate? A threatening letter would be easier and cheaper.
Maybe this thread should be merged with the other thread on the same subject that I missed when I started this one....(cos it had a dumb title - cc).
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I rarely subscribe to your daffy conspiracy theories and whacko beliefs, but on this occasion you may well be right.
Why send bombs that don't and won't detonate? A threatening letter would be easier and cheaper.
Who stands to gain and who loses.
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False flag on Dems by Dems.
If that is true and it's discovered before the election, it will mean Democrats lose.
Only if the people investigating aren't the ones who did it themselves.
Which is somewhat unlikely...
Precisely.
It's not sitting right.
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Hmmm...."The Trumpire Strikes Back"
We could do a movie...I could get the cuz to reprise Wicket The Ewok!!!!
Packin The Glock!!!
Cuz could be the Vice president lol. I like that, Trumpire lol. I was trying to find a word but couldnt come up with one.
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Maybe this thread should be merged with the other thread on the same subject that I missed when I started this one....(cos it had a dumb title - cc).
Threads merged.
ac_smile
I don't normally do conspiracy theories but I think this could well be a false flag to try and help the dems. Progs love fate hate crimes, they pull them all the time. Its very much a part of their fake victim mentality. (think of all the muslim and racial hoaxes they have pulled probably hundreds)
The whole thing is absurd and hypocritical anyway--
-- there are at least 10 times more cases of violence harassment and vandalism from the trump hater side than the supporter side.
---Democrats Maxine waters, Hillary Clinton, Corey Booker, and Eric Holder have openly encouraged it. No republicans have gone out and encouraged this behavior.
---No dems have condemned it when republicans are harrassed and attacked, but immediately Trump condemned these letter bombs.
The democrats want their people out harassing and threatening and acting violent. the republicans do not want theirs doing itm e]=because they can win on the merits of their agenda and the dems cannot.
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I don't normally do conspiracy theories but I think this could well be a false flag to try and help the dems. Progs love fate hate crimes, they pull them all the time.
But, if it's proven it was a false flag it will hurt the Democrats.
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I don't normally do conspiracy theories but I think this could well be a false flag to try and help the dems. Progs love fate hate crimes, they pull them all the time.
But, if it's proven it was a false flag it will hurt the Democrats.
That will be hard to prove. But possible if they can find fingerprints or some other way to catch them (cameras etc). Most likely we will never know. But yes it would backfire on them in a big way if it were revealed to be a hoax. We'll see
Just digesting the information as it rolls in. No CNN sources need apply.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Dems did it. Trying to regain all they lost.
It would surprise me if they were not behind it. This looks like an inside job.
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Hmmm...."The Trumpire Strikes Back"
We could do a movie...I could get the cuz to reprise Wicket The Ewok!!!!
Packin The Glock!!!
Cuz could be the Vice president lol. I like that, Trumpire lol. I was trying to find a word but couldnt come up with one.
We need to find backers.
I'd ask Herman, but HE FAILED TO WIN LOTTO WHEN HE SAID HE HAD THE WINNING TICKET!!!
See...this is what barrel wash does...creates hallucinations.
Seoulbro might pony up. He's flush. Shen Li would have some gold stored under her bed too.
Superchecker would throw in if he had a good night at the Casino.
cc runs her own business. I'm sure she'd throw in as well.
I heard a package was sent to actor Robert DeNiro.
Some media outlets are saying the bombs were not at all functional
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/confirmed-pipe-bomb-and-powder-sent-to-cnn-was-a-fake-it-was-a-hoax-bomb/
How convenient for the dems media and the rank and file prog. These fake bombs have allowed the democrats to erase dems inciting their mobs and the hundreds of examples of harassment, vandalism, threats, beating and attempted murders of their followers. And on top of it all they now claim they are the true victims and trump's "rhetoric" is responsible for it all.
BTW ricin was sent to the white house was dangerous not faked. The media ignored it. Maybe Trump ought to to remind these liars. I think he also ought to suggest these fake bombs were quite possibly hoax to help the democrats. They'll go crazy over that one. Good.
This is what Maxine Waters said yesterday
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"I think the president of the United States has been dog-whistling to his constituency, making them believe that their problems are caused by those people over there. And I think they are acting out what they believe the president wants them to do and the way he wants them to act," said Waters. ″[Trump] in his own way really does do a lot to promote violence," the congresswoman said.
this is what Maxine Waters said in June and then said it again later.
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"If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. You push back on them. Tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere!"
Maxine Waters amd Eric Holder are cancerous tumours.
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BTW ricin was sent to the white house was dangerous not faked. The media ignored it.
Apparently the white powder sent with some supposed bombs was simply
white powder
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BTW ricin was sent to the white house was dangerous not faked. The media ignored it.
Apparently the white powder sent with some supposed bombs was simply
white powder
Looking more like a hoax all the time.
I hope FBI will give out some informative, helpful and honest info soon
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I hope FBI will give out some informative, helpful and honest info soon
The FBI?? Fat chance.
They probably sent them.
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee told reporters authorities have been able to nail down the location of man behind the bomb packages. (not sure a good idea to tip perp they are close to him at this point, methinks)
It's Florida I believe, and seems they know the actual depot
Whole thing is bizarre ... no explosions, ISIS logo on at least one, pretend dangerous powder on some ..... so far no "bombs were viable" statement
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Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee told reporters authorities have been able to nail down the location of man behind the bomb packages. (not sure a good idea to tip perp they are close to him at this point, methinks)
It's Florida I believe, and seems they know the actual depot
Whole thing is bizarre ... no explosions, ISIS logo on at least one, pretend dangerous powder on some ..... so far no "bombs were viable" statement
It keeps getting more bizarre all the time.
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Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee told reporters authorities have been able to nail down the location of man behind the bomb packages. (not sure a good idea to tip perp they are close to him at this point, methinks)
It's Florida I believe, and seems they know the actual depot
Whole thing is bizarre ... no explosions, ISIS logo on at least one, pretend dangerous powder on some ..... so far no "bombs were viable" statement
No information...EVER...is released by law enforcement agencies without careful consideration as to the consequences...and potential aid in the investigation. Media releases have become a component of law enforcement, and most journos in the crime reporting category know and understand this. It must be said that in my experience, the media have usually been perfectly accommodating with investigators in publishing material that may assist in the investigation...including bait, mistruths and prods.
I don't know about the US, but if SOME information that seems important is given out to the public, it would usually signify that they have their eye on a target...or some broad idea of the target's MO and how it may react to a bait in the media.
Perpetrators tend to panic if they see some indication that the Police are closing in. Looking for signs of panic is part of the investigation...and these days, signs of panic would include a monitoring of phone and internet activity in a specific area.
Another thing about IED terrorism is that the IED's are much easier to trace than the villains realise. The implements typically offer a number of investigative clues no matter how hard the offender tries to mask his weaponry.
That so many have been sent will almost certainly give rise to the expectation that the offender will be caught.
Unless, of course, the investigators don't want to catch him or her.
Thanks - that's informative
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Apparently, experts are certain the devices were not explosive devices. They had no chance of detonating, and were clearly designed as a hoax.
Smells even more like a false flag hoax to me.
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Apparently, experts are certain the devices were not explosive devices. They had no chance of detonating, and were clearly designed as a hoax.
Smells even more like a false flag hoax to me.
Oh ya. CNN, and CBC blame the toxic climate Trump created. :crazy:

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Apparently, experts are certain the devices were not explosive devices. They had no chance of detonating, and were clearly designed as a hoax.
Smells even more like a false flag hoax to me.
What I posted didn't say "all devices" ..... just "some" ... if that is what you are going by
Maybe you are going by other info?
That said, I'd not be surprised if "all' turn out to be not viable
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That's what the prog media machine wants us to believe.
Update Miami Herald, right near center of the action (//https)
The U.S Postal Service directed investigators to Opa-locka after reviews of mail scans showed some of the devices had found their way through the massive sorting facility.
The devices — clearly aiming to shake up the political landscape just two weeks before the midterm elections — were so poorly constructed that at least one source involved in the investigation told The Miami Herald that "they could not detonate".
"The way they were constructed they were not going to go off," one law enforcement official told the Herald
Whether they were intentionally designed that way was not known.
[I'm not taking this as gospel but .......................]
The bombs, made from PVC pipe and covered with black tape, were about six inches long and packed with powder and broken glass, said a law enforcement official who viewed X-ray images and spoke on condition of anonymity, according to the Associated Press. The explosive devices also contained a small battery.
[There are several "reports" of FBI saying "may never have been intended to explode" .. "no triggering device" ... nothing official or concrete yet]
Maybe in morning we will get more solid info
I watched some reporting of this on CBC. I wanted to throw the smart tv out the frickin window.
[size=150]Breaking news[/size]
They have arrested a suspect for the package bombs. Few details as yet
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EDIT: Mans name--Cesar Sayoc, 56 year old male (Hispanic?) former New Yorker. He has been arrested previously for making terroristic threats. Press conference scheduled for 2:30 eastern
Below are pictures of the alleged van. It certainly looks like its a Trump supporter :sad: if so, the media will use him to erase the last two years of democrat calls for violence and the hundreds of acts of vandalism, harassment, violence and attempted murder by their supporters. This is a reichstag moment for the democrats.
https://twitter.com/thereal_mo01/status/1055844641952665600?s=21
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I watched some reporting of this on CBC. I wanted to throw the smart tv out the frickin window.
CBC is more "in the tank" than CNN ... on everything
It does what it's "employer" / money machine tells it to do
Identified
Cesar A. Sayoc, 56, of Aventura, Florida.
Sayoc has a criminal record.
The source said authorities were led to Sayoc in part through DNA evidence.
He was tracked through his cell phone, sources told CBS2.

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Mugshots.com ID: 74096359
Name: SAYOC, CESAR
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BLACK
Eye Color: BROWN
Height: 6′ 1″ (1.85 m)
Weight: 265 lb (120 kg)
Birth Date: 3/17/1962
Previous arrest for terror threats
Again, stupid shit to do. "Settle it at the ballot box"
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Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare (//https)
Settle it at the ballot box. Vote, them out, idiot
...but he did, cc!

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Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare (//https)
Settle it at the ballot box. Vote, them out, idiot
...but he did, cc!
Here's your hero Joe. He didn't mail fake bombs, he used real bullets and probably crippled republican Steve Scalise for life and nearly killed him

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Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare (//https)
Settle it at the ballot box. Vote, them out, idiot
...but he did, cc!
Here's your hero Joe. He didn't mail fake bombs, he used real bullets and probably crippled republican Steve Scalise for life and nearly killed him

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...no that's Karl's hero over at other forum, Lump!
He had him in his avatar for months.
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Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare (//https)
Settle it at the ballot box. Vote, them out, idiot
...but he did, cc!
Here's your hero Joe. He didn't mail fake bombs, he used real bullets and probably crippled republican Steve Scalise for life and nearly killed him

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...no that's Karl's hero over at other forum, Lump!
He had him in his avatar for months.
Dunno Joe. it's becoming very hard to tell you and Karl apart these days.
Strange - Didn't "go off" in 12 tries (if indeed he was "trying")
but he was a Chippendale Promoter

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Meanwhile the mainstream media virtually ignores--
[size=150]Utah Man Indicted For Mailing Simulated Ricin To President Trump And Others[/size]
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/10/26/utah-man-indicted-mailing-simulated-ricin-president-trump-others/
How convenient.
Quote from: "cc"
Identified
Cesar A. Sayoc, 56, of Aventura, Florida.
Sayoc has a criminal record.
The source said authorities were led to Sayoc in part through DNA evidence.
He was tracked through his cell phone, sources told CBS2.

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Mugshots.com ID: 74096359
Name: SAYOC, CESAR
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BLACK
Eye Color: BROWN
Height: 6′ 1″ (1.85 m)
Weight: 265 lb (120 kg)
Birth Date: 3/17/1962
Previous arrest for terror threats
Again, stupid shit to do. "Settle it at the ballot box"
He was responsible for all the fake bombs?
A whackjob with history of stupidity.
As I alluded to above, bomb makers are invariably easy to track down, especially the stupid ones.
Ya, this guy was way out of his league.
Still, 0 of 13 exploding does raise the question as to whether they were to scare, Also, rare that a wannabe bomber does not do a test run or two with small loads way off in the countryside to make sure they have it right
FBI initially said they were viable ... but if they were, with 13, allowing some screwups, some would have exploded ... unexploded by definition would seem to be not viable
And he has priors for sending bombs to people.
I think he needs to go to bomb school in Iran.
Knew he had a major rap sheet. Didn't know priors were for sending bombs. If that is the case, he should have been under lock and key
Takes deliberate effort over time. That's not a spur of the moment thingy. Anyone doing such "once" will always be a danger
I don't think even Hizzbullah could teach this fuckup to do it right
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Knew he had a major rap sheet. Didn't know priors were for sending bombs. If that is the case, he should have been under lock and key
Takes deliberate effort over time. That's not a spur of the moment thingy. Anyone doing such "once" will always be a danger
I don't think even Hizzbullah could teach this fuckup to do it right
He didn't actually send a bomb in the past, but he threatened to blow up a utility place--
https://apnews.com/cf86a256719b422eb656e5cb5854e04d
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In the 2002 bomb threat case, he had lashed out at a Florida utility representative because his electricity service was about to be cut off. The arrest report said Sayoc threatened in a phone call to blow up the utility's offices and said that "It would be worse than September 11th."
Sayoc was also convicted in 2014 for grand theft and in 2013 for battery. In 2004, he faced several felony charges for unlawful possession of a synthetic anabolic steroid often used to help build muscles. He also had several arrests going back to the 1990s for theft, obtaining fraudulent refunds and tampering with evidence.
He seems like a habitual criminal. Obviously he must have done it, but all those perfectly laid out picture mosaics on that van and none of them at all bleached from the sunlight is very weird. The only thing missing was a neon sign saying "Arrest me I did it."
Whackjob. Nothing to see here.
On a broader note, this type of menace which will only become more frequent and dangerous, can be directly attributed to the politicians who's rhetoric, aggression, resistance to lawful processes and a general call to arms has led to idiots like this, and the others who will follow, to act in this manner.
This is not going to get better any time soon. Democracy as we know it is doomed, because we refuse to live under the "one size fits all" form of governance any more.
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On a broader note, this type of menace which will only become more frequent and dangerous, can be directly attributed to the politicians who's rhetoric, aggression, resistance to lawful processes and a general call to arms has led to idiots like this, and the others who will follow, to act in this manner.
This is not going to get better any time soon. Democracy as we know it is doomed, because we refuse to live under the "one size fits all" form of governance any more.
I'm sure the political violence will continue here in the US. 90% will be from the left and 10% from the right. And the 10% will get national attention and the 90% will get ignored.
Probably right.
But innocent people are going to die.
They should just get the second civil war over with. Maybe State's rights will finally get justice.
The ricin incident with the president and the fake bombs are terrible, but the violence surrounding free speech on university campuses and public places sre far more troubling in my opinion.
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They should just get the second civil war over with. Maybe State's rights will finally get justice.
There will BE no States after the next civil war.
The Federation will control the whole nation. As it should be.
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They should just get the second civil war over with. Maybe State's rights will finally get justice.
There will BE no States after the next civil war.
The Federation will control the whole nation. As it should be.
That was the eventual creeping result of the first American Civil War. When the second transpires, all bets are off.
There's a clear divide between those who adore Federation and those who are sick and tired of its numerous excesses and oversteps.
You should read up on American history. The real history.
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Identified
Cesar A. Sayoc, 56, of Aventura, Florida.
Sayoc has a criminal record.
The source said authorities were led to Sayoc in part through DNA evidence.
He was tracked through his cell phone, sources told CBS2.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqcetnZUwAE6GFv?format=jpg&name=medium[%2Fimg]
Mugshots.com ID: 74096359
Name: SAYOC, CESAR
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BLACK
Eye Color: BROWN
Height: 6′ 1″ (1.85 m)
Weight: 265 lb (120 kg)
Birth Date: 3/17/1962
Previous arrest for terror threats
Again, stupid shit to do. "Settle it at the ballot box"
He was born in New York city and had little interest in politics before 2016..
He is well known to police.
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They should just get the second civil war over with. Maybe State's rights will finally get justice.
There will BE no States after the next civil war.
The Federation will control the whole nation. As it should be.
That was the eventual creeping result of the first American Civil War. When the second transpires, all bets are off.
There's a clear divide between those who adore Federation and those who are sick and tired of its numerous excesses and oversteps.
You should read up on American history. The real history.
Unlike you, I am not American, and thus have no interest in America's history.
However, I do know this; when the guns start talking, the guy with the biggest gun wins. And the US military is the biggest gun.
You don't get it.
You don't give it.
I see that you're blissful in your ignorance of the subject.
Oh well ac_dunno
I'm more than happy to admit that I am no student of American history.
I am, however, somewhat versed in matters anti-insurgent, anti-terrorism and military capability.
You can rest assured that the military are as prepared for domestic action as well as international conflict. Furthermore, you can be equally sure that a well equipped, trained and disciplined military force will easily overwhelm rebels, insurgents, rogues and gangs armed with domestically available firepower.
You may think you're a badass standing on the ramparts with your AR15, AK47 or even an M16...but when bullets start flying overhead and the world around you begins to disintegrate under assault from a barrage of 50mm rounds from a machine gun and your comrades heads explode from sniper fire from so far away you don't know where it came from, you will drop your gun and piss your pants. Not necessarily in that order.
Civil rebellion may work in basket case countries where the armies haven't been paid in months and switch sides on a daily basis, but in a first world country, you would be put down in a day.
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I'm more than happy to admit that I am no student of American history.
I am, however, somewhat versed in matters anti-insurgent, anti-terrorism and military capability.
You can rest assured that the military are as prepared for domestic action as well as international conflict. Furthermore, you can be equally sure that a well equipped, trained and disciplined military force will easily overwhelm rebels, insurgents, rogues and gangs armed with domestically available firepower.
You may think you're a badass standing on the ramparts with your AR15, AK47 or even an M16...but when bullets start flying overhead and the world around you begins to disintegrate under assault from a barrage of 50mm rounds from a machine gun and your comrades heads explode from sniper fire from so far away you don't know where it came from, you will drop your gun and piss your pants. Not necessarily in that order.
Civil rebellion may work in basket case countries where the armies haven't been paid in months and switch sides on a daily basis, but in a first world country, you would be put down in a day.
The novel Gone With the Wind was written in the very early 1900s and is an historical novel based on their civil war. You might have seen the movie but trust me when I tell you, the book is an absolute must read... it's 900 pages long and you might think reading the first 300 pages, "what the hell is caskur rabbiting on about?) but from page 300 onwards, if you can put the book down, I'd be astonished.
Read that book and you'll be able to then decipher the yanks mentalities. You also decipher that their Democrats really are the first capitalists in the USA... not the Republicans... The KKK started because the homeless black men were told they could have white women so started raping them... You will be able to see in those pages, Australian politics today.
Well it's probably a better historic source than Freud's "movies".
Bricktop is only an expert at oozing crap talk because he hasn't got the perserverence or minerals for much else.
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I'm more than happy to admit that I am no student of American history.
I am, however, somewhat versed in matters anti-insurgent, anti-terrorism and military capability.
You can rest assured that the military are as prepared for domestic action as well as international conflict. Furthermore, you can be equally sure that a well equipped, trained and disciplined military force will easily overwhelm rebels, insurgents, rogues and gangs armed with domestically available firepower.
You may think you're a badass standing on the ramparts with your AR15, AK47 or even an M16...but when bullets start flying overhead and the world around you begins to disintegrate under assault from a barrage of 50mm rounds from a machine gun and your comrades heads explode from sniper fire from so far away you don't know where it came from, you will drop your gun and piss your pants. Not necessarily in that order.
Civil rebellion may work in basket case countries where the armies haven't been paid in months and switch sides on a daily basis, but in a first world country, you would be put down in a day.
The novel Gone With the Wind was written in the very early 1900s and is an historical novel based on their civil war. You might have seen the movie but trust me when I tell you, the book is an absolute must read... it's 900 pages long and you might think reading the first 300 pages, "what the hell is caskur rabbiting on about?) but from page 300 onwards, if you can put the book down, I'd be astonished.
Read that book and you'll be able to then decipher the yanks mentalities. You also decipher that their Democrats really are the first capitalists in the USA... not the Republicans... The KKK started because the homeless black men were told they could have white women so started raping them... You will able to see in those pages, Australian politics today.
Well hell, now I want to get that book from the library.
The instant the first pipe bombs were delivered to prominent Democrats and Democratically sympathetic media outlets this week, CNN began reporting as fact that Trump was to blame. :oeudC:
CNN is not a media organisation.
It is a political activist.
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CNN is not a media organisation.
It is a political activist.
indeed.
An interesting titbit
Mail bombing suspect Cesar Sayoc worked as a DJ at Ultra Gentleman's Club in West Palm Beach, Fla.,
the same strip club where Trump accuser Stormy Daniels performed in April.
Quite a coinkydink ya think?
NBC 26 - https://www.nbc26.com/news/national/cesar-sayoc-alleged-pipe-bomb-mailer-worked-as-dj-at-west-palm-strip-club-ultra-thursday
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An interesting titbit
Mail bombing suspect Cesar Sayoc worked as a DJ at Ultra Gentleman's Club in West Palm Beach, Fla.,
the same strip club where Trump accuser Stormy Daniels performed in April.
Quite a coinkydink ya think?
NBC 26 - https://www.nbc26.com/news/national/cesar-sayoc-alleged-pipe-bomb-mailer-worked-as-dj-at-west-palm-strip-club-ultra-thursday
hmmm
66,615 bars
6,350 strip joints
My suspicious alter-ego says: Quite a longshot coinkydink ... I'd be looking deeper into Daniel's thug lawyer guy that many times said trump MUST be removed
(and without actual cite at hand I paraphrase) "by any means necessary"
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66,615 bars
6,350 strip joints
My suspicious alter-ego says: Quite a longshot coinkydink ... I'd be looking deeper into Daniel's thug lawyer guy that many times said trump MUST be removed
(and without actual cite at hand I paraphrase) "by any means necessary"
That is indeed a hell of a coinlydink.