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#4141
Quote from: "Fashionista"http://i.cbc.ca/1.3578918.1463074595!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/snow-may-2016-calgary.jpg">


...Really, eh Fashionista?



It was nice in Vancouver today. Here's a pic from a live webcam:



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More like 24C or 75 F (converted for our American viewers hea')



Tourist weather.



Guess ya gotta wait a long time for spring to arrive, eh?
#4142
The Flea Trap / Re: Will Britain exit the EU?
May 10, 2016, 11:37:12 PM
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QuoteBritish Prime Minister Harold Wison, left, sits in a room of the the Elysee Palace in Paris, France with French President Charles de Gaulle. Later that year, de Gaulle would veto Britain's efforts to join the-then European Economic Community. It was only after de Gaulle's death that Britain eventually joined the EEC in 1973. Britain holds a vote on June 23, 2016 to decide whether to stay in the European Union.


QuoteIn half a dozen weeks, the British could be fulfilling that prediction when they vote on whether to leave the European Union, a move that would be the biggest reverse in the bloc's near 60-year existence and a threat to its economy.



A vote for a British exit from the EU — so-called Brexit — on June 23 would likely trigger turmoil in financial markets and uncertainty for businesses, jolting the region's economy. The real damage may take longer to emerge. The fear in continental Europe is that the U.K.'s departure could prompt other countries to seek changes to their EU membership. In a worst-case scenario, it could usher in a new era of nationalism that diminishes the drive to strengthen economic ties and undermines the EU's core purposes: the freedom to trade and move between countries.



"It could be another torpedo in the ship of the EU," said Jan Bryson, global economist at Wells Fargo Bank. "Brexit could set a precedent and it could raise questions about the future of the EU itself."



As far ago as 1963 De Gaulle warned the other five founding members of the bloc that Britain's culture was too different to be interested in long-term integration. He had first-hand knowledge of Britain, having spent most of World War II in London organizing the French resistance.



"Non," he said in 1963, and again four years later, to Britain's attempt to join. The country eventually joined in 1973, after de Gaulle resigned in 1969. The immediate aftermath of a British vote to leave the EU — which bookies give a 30 percent chance, against 70 percent for the "in" vote to win — would likely see huge volatility in financial markets.



Many forecasters predict the British pound would fall as much as 20 percent in the following days. Worries over the vote have already seen the pound drop this year to a seven-year low against the dollar. Though a weaker pound may help Britain's exporters, it would hurt European firms exporting to Britain.



The instability would discourage businesses from investing or hiring. Surveys of companies have already shown some executives, mainly in Britain but also the eurozone, becoming more cautious in the run-up to the vote.



The uncertainty could last a while. It would take at least two years for Britain to leave the EU. Renegotiating its commercial relationship with the bloc will likely take many years more. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development estimates that a Brexit vote will shave around 1 percentage point off the EU economy by 2020. That's a lot for an economy that's barely grown over the last few years and in 2015 expanded by only 1.9 percent.



The International Monetary Fund considers Brexit to be one of the main risks facing not just Europe, but the global economy, as it would disrupt trade. Britain exported around 223 billion pounds ($325 billion) worth of goods and services to the other 27 EU countries last year, and imported around 291 billion. British exports to the EU account for about 45 percent of the total, while imports are a little bit more than 50 percent.



There are certain economies within the EU that would be hurt more than others. Neighboring Ireland, above all, but also Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany have strong commercial ties with Britain. The longer-term damage, which is hard to quantify, could come from the disruption that a British departure causes to Europe's integration drive.



For years, EU states have sought to get closer. They created the single market, which effectively abolished borders between member states, and created the euro currency, now used by 19 EU countries. But the global financial crisis of 2008 — which morphed into a debt crisis for the eurozone — and the EU's trouble handling the migrants' crisis have emboldened a wave of populist political forces across Europe.



In eastern Europe, countries like Hungary and Poland have become more skeptical of the EU. In France, the hard-right Front National has gained ground while in Germany, the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD) is more popular than ever.



There's concern that a vote for Brexit could generate more support for such parties, many of which want to leave the EU outright. Already, the migrants' crisis has prompted a watering-down of the Schengen Agreement, which has allowed more than 400 million Europeans to travel hassle-free between 26 European countries — though not Britain — for business or travel.



Any political fallout from a Brexit could really start playing out in 2017, when there are elections in France and Germany, among other countries. Colin Ellis, a managing director at ratings agency Moody's, said a Brexit could "fan the flames of political disquiet elsewhere."



Ellis thinks the EU would lose momentum in other ways as Britain is one of the most dynamic and open economies in Europe and its continued membership would help promote policies that would improve the bloc's economy, such as reforming labor markets.
#4143
The Flea Trap / Will Britain exit the EU?
May 08, 2016, 10:30:08 PM
...In what's been called the UK's possible 'Brexit' from the EU, its citizens are in for some major changes should this come about.



British Prime Minister David Cameron has said, it could trigger another World War:



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QuoteDavid Cameron will plead for Britain to stay in the EU and help prevent the Continent being ripped apart by another conflict.



Mr Cameron will highlight the UK's role in bringing peace to Europe as he hits the referendum campaign trail.



Both the Prime Minister and his Brexit -backing Tory rival Boris Johnson make speeches this morning in the countdown to the June 23 vote.



Mr Cameron will refer to Britain's role in "pivotal moments in European history]

What do you think? Will Britain choose to stay, or leave the EU?



Latest Poll results: https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/">https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
#4144
Will/has this led to major shutdowns of plants/working operations there?

And if so, how long will they be down?



I've read somewhere that the oil patch may be at least 5% of Canada's economy.

And if all the people living/working there are servicing this area, must be a huge loss in downtown.



Anyways, since I don't live there, perhaps those who live closer to it can fill us in on the economic impact of this fire.
#4145
...signs of a worsening economy perhaps?



When people don't have jobs, nothing else to do so they sleep around.



Prostitution flourishes in the absence of jobs.



Article says half of the cases are indigenous women, so it appears to affect the poorer groups the most, which are also hit with unemployment.
#4146
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "RW"I don't think the purpose is truly to lower CO2 emissions by the tax itself but to amass money for more significant changes like paying for transit systems and other big ticket things.

Exactly, it's about raising revenue. Just like a consumption tax.


That's the trouble with a tax where the government doesn't explain where the money is going. They should put up a website to inform the public how much carbon tax is collected and what its being spent on, similar to a debt clock:



 http://www.debtclock.ca/">http://www.debtclock.ca/



I suppose if the taxpayer knew where their taxes were being spent, maybe they'd be more supportive of it. But of course, they're not. Plus we don't see any evidence of any massive spending on meaningful carbo reduction projects. They mayor of Vancouver says he wants to make the city the greenest on the planet. So he paints the crosswalks green. However, this doesn't do anything for the city. Where are the solar panel roofs? The highway from Whistler to LA with the hydrogen powered cars and fueling stations we were promised? Or did our carbon taxes go towards that taxpayer funded extravaganza in Paris?



Vancouver likes to call itself green, but many cities nations are already doing it. If vancouver is an indication where the city and country are at, then we're at least 20 years behind the Europeans in carbon reduction and energy consumption. So I hope the results of all this carbon taxing show up soon.
#4147
Well, you didn't answer the question in as detailed a way as I'd hoped but thanks for the attempt anyway.



Actually, I think the fundamental reason for the CO2 problem is too many people who've been introduced to the planet in such a short period of time.



The population has practically doubled in 1 to 2 generations. Of course somethings gotta give.



Its the equivalent of doubling the population of an apartment building overnight and still expecting the quality of life for its residents to remain the same.



At this rate, the planet is living on borrowed time. The human species has this voracious appetitie to reproduce, but has not found the common sense to slow down its population growth.



Anyways, the Club of Rome warned us 40 years ago when our current PM was a toddler of the population bomb, but nobody listened. So we're paying the price and trying to implelment bandaid solutions to cover up what is the real prblem.


Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "JOE"...I confess...I know nothing about them.

Thus, I haven't made up my mind to support or be against them.

I'm firmly undecided.



Why did the government introduce them?



What do they pay for?



Who benefits from.them?



Who doesn't?



Which countries have introduced them, and what are their results?



What is the difference between a carbon tax & cap 'n trade?



I know many of you don't like them, but at least try to be impartial explaining or defining them.



...Perhaps seoulbro can weigh in?

The idea behind both is to limit CO2 emissions. However, they have almost no impact on climate. As I said in another thread they are both political gestures.
#4148
The Flea Trap / What is Carbon Tax & Cap 'n Trade?
April 30, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
...I confess...I know nothing about them.

Thus, I haven't made up my mind to support or be against them.

I'm firmly undecided.



Why did the government introduce them?



What do they pay for?



Who benefits from.them?



Who doesn't?



Which countries have introduced them, and what are their results?



What is the difference between a carbon tax & cap 'n trade?



I know many of you don't like them, but at least try to be impartial explaining or defining them.



...Perhaps seoulbro can weigh in?
#4149
The Flea Trap / Re: the stork arrived
April 30, 2016, 12:35:10 PM
Congratulations, Shen.

All the best!
#4150
Anyways, what was so bad about Jim Prentice? I thought he was pretty decent. He seemed to pay the price for all the incompetent leaders the Tories had before him. Albertans threw out the wrong guy. His austerity budget was what Alberta needed at the time. He accurately foresaw the coming downturn, but nobody would listen. Nobody likes a doubter/the bearer of bad news  I guess. Actually, he's the kind of premier British Columbia could use right now. Straight talking, level headed, smart, competent, yet pragmatic and somewhat progressive. 'Liberal Light'. That's who I would've voted for if I lived there. NDP/Notley seem rather loony. Its hard to see how they'll get re-elected unless they drastically change their game plan now.
#4151
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I don't like carbon taxes either, but it is better than cap and trade.

It is such a bad time right now in Alberta to be taking more money away from the people.


During an economic downturn, its not a good time to tax people or companies, if the goal is to get Alberta moving again. NDP is making all the wrong choices at the wrong time. Notley will like go down in history as the 'Bob Rae of Alberta'. 1 term premier who leaves behind a huge fiscal mess.



Notley should take a page from Obama's playbook. Don't raise taxes at least until the economy has turned a corner.



Trouble is NDP are what Canadian PM Louis St. Laurent called 'Liberals in a hurry.' They don't take their time, they don't pace themselves. They want too much at once without a credible plan to make it work.



Socialism needs to find a way to make it pay for itself.
#4152
The Flea Trap / Re: Comic Con
April 19, 2016, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Annie"He could have at least given you the comics! I knew a neighbor when I was growing up who would make her son burn his comic books. I felt so bad for him  ac_crying And they weren't religious at all.

My dad would have cried if someone burnt one of his Playboys.


Maybe I snagged some of them at this garage sale.

Some women was selling of her husband's old Playboy Magazines for about $5 each. So I bought a bunch.



The ones from around 1960 to 1975 were their best issues, still worth reading, masterpieces in graphic design.



The ones from the 1950s are more valuable, but their content is somewhat stale.

The fifties were defintely a different era which reflected a different mindset which got swept away in the sixties.
#4153
The Flea Trap / Re: Comic Con
April 18, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
Quote from: "Annie"He could have at least given you the comics! I knew a neighbor when I was growing up who would make her son burn his comic books. I felt so bad for him  ac_crying And they weren't religious at all.


There was a time several decades ago when America went on this comic book burning craze. Some 'expert' convinced much of the United States that comic books were inherently evil, so thousands perhaps millions were trashed and then thrown into the bonfire:



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Subsequently, this decreased the existing supply of what would become future antiques. So today, quite a number of these issues are extremely scarce where just a handful, perhaps just a half a dozen of some titles exist today. This has conferred the rarity status and hence increased their desireability and value.
#4154
...since this appears to be the only sub-forum some of the BF members can post in, maybe they could weigh in too - ie - SCOUSE & others.



I kinda see the end of WWII as also the true closing of the 19th Century and the TRUE beginning of the 20th - which in many respects, we are still living the latter half of.



'Seems WWII was a culmination of at least a century full of grudges in Europe, driven by centuries old values of upholding national and military honor. It would also be the last time in which the major European powers would clash on the battlefield. But the destruction of 'Old Europe', brought with it the rise of truly 20th century values which seem to have to fruition in the 1960s. ie - pop culture, racial integration and multiculturalism. Whether the world is any better off for them is a matter of debate. Certainly, there is a fair share of holdouts who think otherwise, resist and seem to long for the old order in which the Colonial Powers ruled.



Anyways, here's an episode from World at War which is worth watching - because it describes how the world changed dramatically and a New political and cultural order emerged practically overnight:



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#4155
The Flea Trap / Re: Comic Con
April 15, 2016, 06:53:16 PM
Quote from: "keeper"When my older brother found God he burnt everything!!! , Records , Comics..... EVERYTHING!


...too bad.



Just out of idle curiousity, was it because of a girl/woman he knew in his Church?



And he wanted to please her by destroying everything he thought might turn her off?