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#4681
The Flea Trap / Re: BF gossip thread
July 08, 2022, 04:29:55 PM
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=463171 time=1657306406 user_id=3214
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=463167 time=1657305307 user_id=3351




I thought about ignoring some of them but then I realized all of them aint worth a fuck. I'd need to ban about 12 of them at least.


where you been posting at brother?



Next time you're in Florida you gotta stop by. We can BBQ by the pool in the house I don't own



lmao



but seriously tho... that's a real invitation


Thanks for the invite Biggie! I'll let you know!



Right now I'm in Illinois but I should make it to Florida again later this year.
#4682
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=463182 time=1657311399 user_id=61
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=463165 time=1657304615 user_id=3351




Yes, and they did. Many older writings including the Bible, those from Rome, and Blackstone are directly referenced as the foundation of the basis for our form of government. With regard to weaponry, more than one founder referenced English Rulers disarming the populace.



The point is clear, in order for their to be freedom, the government needs to be at risk of annihilation by the people. If anyone wants to get rid of guns, the only alternative would be to disarm the government and remove all security barriers preventing anyone from entering and doing whatever they wanted to the leaders. Of course once the guns are gone, the leaders are free to do whatever they wish.


I don't understand why would you need guns, giving the average person guns will just lead to more people assassinated.  Police and soldiers using guns makes sense b/c it's a tool required, yet when a civilian have a gun, it's classified as a offensive/lethal weapon.



Unless you want more police brutality happening and more children and innocents murdered, while your government is made out of multiple democratic parties that needs to go through a congress before they can take action.  If you want freedom and power, then comes responsibility and sacrifice.

Guns and deadly force are the only way governments are overthrown. IMO, we look at the whole entire situation backwards. We see a shooting today and ask, how can we limit guns to stop this from happening. Even more ridiculous is places like the UK did that with stabbings. You cant own anything with a locking blade over 3" and even then, if a judge decides you have a deadly weapon, they can prosecute you for such. That government needs butchered....but they cant because the population is disarmed.



The proper way to look at this is to ask why we didnt have these mass shootings 75 years ago. Therein lies the real answer. If we keep on with anti gun crap, even if we would ban them, next thing you know we'll be banning knives and screwdrivers like the UK. Its intellectually brain dead to approach problems in that manner.
#4683
The Flea Trap / Re: BF gossip thread
July 08, 2022, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=463160 time=1657300955 user_id=3214
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=463157 time=1657299065 user_id=2015


I only recognize sea idiot. Everybody should have him on ignore. That is if he isn't permanently banned already.


I have sea monkey and that clown bland spasms on ignore



their shitposting is simply too stupid to bother reading


I thought about ignoring some of them but then I realized all of them aint worth a fuck. I'd need to ban about 12 of them at least.
#4684
Quote from: Herman post_id=463102 time=1657243068 user_id=1689
The global supply of urea was already being impacted by ongoing supply chain issues, but this worsened after the invasion of Ukraine on February 24.



Russia's government has also weighed suspending fertilizer and urea(used for DEF fluid required in diesel vehicles) exports, while China, another major exporter of urea, has placed restrictions on exports.


Believe it or not, DEF production and use creates shitloads of CO2.
#4685
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=463119 time=1657258511 user_id=1560
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=463033 time=1657211574 user_id=3351
When you can refute all that the founders wrote on the subject, we can discuss further:



https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quotes-from-our-founding-fathers-2nd-amendment/">https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quot ... amendment/">https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quotes-from-our-founding-fathers-2nd-amendment/




The American Constitution was written around 1789. 233 years ago. Do you believe that the fledgling American government would adopt policies, protocols, laws and strictures from 1566, that is to say 233 years before 1789?




Yes, and they did. Many older writings including the Bible, those from Rome, and Blackstone are directly referenced as the foundation of the basis for our form of government. With regard to weaponry, more than one founder referenced English Rulers disarming the populace.



The point is clear, in order for their to be freedom, the government needs to be at risk of annihilation by the people. If anyone wants to get rid of guns, the only alternative would be to disarm the government and remove all security barriers preventing anyone from entering and doing whatever they wanted to the leaders. Of course once the guns are gone, the leaders are free to do whatever they wish.
#4686
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=463078 time=1657237803 user_id=61
I have some friends that have been robbed at gunpoint or scumbags with a knife, I even have one friend that gets constantly attacked by the 4 same assholes while on his way home from school, while I've gotten into a fight against 3 guys by myself and I would have been dead if it weren't for the by standers calling the police.



Yet still none of us ever cried about needing to own some kind of weapon for self defense.


I keep a pistol on me usually. Anyone who comes in my house to rob me will die in short order. I shoot at least 100 rounds through various guns per month.
#4687
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=463071 time=1657235999 user_id=61
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=463033 time=1657211574 user_id=3351
When you can refute all that the founders wrote on the subject, we can discuss further:



https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quotes-from-our-founding-fathers-2nd-amendment/">https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quot ... amendment/">https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quotes-from-our-founding-fathers-2nd-amendment/


With all due respect, the 2nd Amendment only makes sense for post war settings were way too many people still had guns, but now it's severely outdated as the world watches US news in horror almost everyday, you guys are so numbed by it and don't realized how messed up and short sighted the pro-gun community is.


The only problem with America is we've ejected God, The One and Only God, from society. The founders commented on this too:



"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other."



From your position, it could be argued that the entire Constitution is outdated and should be re-worked or voided. Even RBG stated that no country should use our founding documents as a starting or reference point. Well, if the world thinks there's blood in America's streets now, attempting this will 100% guarantee a civil war and destruction of the USA.



None of this negates the demonstrable condition of Australia, UK, Denmark, and a multitude of other countries enforcing their will on a defenseless people at gunpoint.
#4688
When you can refute all that the founders wrote on the subject, we can discuss further:



https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quotes-from-our-founding-fathers-2nd-amendment/">https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quot ... amendment/">https://www.concealedcarry.com/gun-quotes-from-our-founding-fathers-2nd-amendment/
#4689
https://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/100">https://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/100

Extract from Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith

   Paris Nov. 13. 1787.



the people can not be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong [. . .] will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure.



Noah Webster's Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution," authored in 1787: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence [sic], raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
#4690
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=462953 time=1657154356 user_id=1560
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=462911 time=1657117489 user_id=3351
The 2nd Amendment in America exists solely to overthrow the federal government and repel foreign invaders. That means that military grade weaponry is protected by the 2nd Amendment no matter the time period. You cant argue muskets are the only thing people can own because the intent is to enable the people to overthrow the government and you cant do that with muskets today. Now I get that everyone gets all emotional about dead children and shot up parades but that doesnt trump the Bill of Rights. I have 4 kids and if all 4 were dead, thats no reason to restrict peoples God Given Inalienable Rights.



On the flip side, you have the UK where you cant even own a knife with a locking blade or over 3" without it being considered a weapon that can land you in prison. What a fucking joke! Someone needs to overthrow that joke of a government! And guess what? People get murdered over there all the time STILL!



Americas Constitutional threat against its own government is foreign to the rest of the world. The purpose is to prevent it from becoming despotic like the UK and Australian governments. The most effective way to destroy the 2nd Amendment is to move the people away from morality and into nihilistic depravity and democrat liberals have done just that. What better way for a government to consolidate its power over the people than disarm the populace?



The solution to mass shootings in America is going to take a generation at the very least. Re-introduce the Bible and prayer into schools as it was before 1960, bring back a swift death penalty, teach Godly morality, quit allowing blacks to cry racism every time one of their din doo nuffins gets smoked by the cops. These would be a good start. For crying out loud, 2 black kids in the chicongo got in a fight, one had a knife and stabbed the other kid who was completely unarmed to death. They didnt bring charges against the murderer because it was said the 2 were "mutual combatants". LMFAO at the absurdity!!!! Whats NOT going to happen is disarming Americans. Thats a recipe for a civil war. Sure, all this sounds pollyanna but its a FACT that we didnt have anywhere near this level of violence when our society was anchored by Godly morals.


It is this kind of misguided and irrational zealotry that has put America in this mess.



Just one small example from this nonsensical rationale; the creators of the US constitution including the right to bear arms so that people can overthrow the very government the constitution creates.



If you have friends or relatives in America tell them to get out. Now.


Many of this nations founders wrote about the evil of governments disarming the populace. In fact, the Declaration of Independence established the peoples God Given Right to overthrow their government when absolutely necessary. How does one do that? With military grade weaponry which happened to be muskets at the time. 1000 years before, it would have been the swords outlawed by european kings. 250 years later, its the AR-15 liberals seek to ban.



Do you dispute this historic fact? To support my assertion:



WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

          We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.



Gouverneur Morris, one of the founding fathers-

"Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation."



There are lots of commentary by the founders discussing the purpose of the people retaining arms to overthrow the federal government should it become tyrannical. I can spam it if needed.



I've heard the argument made that the DOC was a letter of separation between the King and the colonies and in no way established the existence of the US and that The Constitution (1787) established the US. This is flatly false as evidenced by the Articles of Confederation in which "The United States" is referenced over and over.
#4691
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=462951 time=1657149610 user_id=3254
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=462947 time=1657149262 user_id=3351
So the latest is the dad helped this kid buy the guns. WTF, over? The dad should probably get the death penalty too for the crime of allowing his kid to get face and neck tattoos.

The latest I saw was of Robert Crimo appearing on social media wearing modern racist attire.


There's a lot of conflicting information on this. I've seen social media pics of him wrapped in a Trump flag and I've seen him with Antifa garb on. The Trump related stuff looks like it could have been done in a mocking fashion especially him at a Trump event dressed like "Where's Waldo".
#4692
The Flea Trap / Re: BF gossip thread
July 07, 2022, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=462949 time=1657149399 user_id=3254
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=462946 time=1657149047 user_id=3351
I left because I got tired of puppy kicking over there. It got old. With a few minor exceptions, the people here are intellectually engaging.

I'm not sure what you mean by "puppy kicking" lokmar?


The intellectual ease of pimp slapping libtards. Like kicking a defenseless puppy.
#4693
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
Quote from: Odinson post_id=462920 time=1657125554 user_id=136




These baby-killers are calling the killing of animals a "holocaust".



 :laugh3:



They care more about animals than they do of human babies because the animal thing enables them to harass other people.

I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:


A  sure sign that someone is not fit to live in society is when they value animal life over human.
#4694
So the latest is the dad helped this kid buy the guns. WTF, over? The dad should probably get the death penalty too for the crime of allowing his kid to get face and neck tattoos.
#4695
The Flea Trap / Re: BF gossip thread
July 06, 2022, 07:10:47 PM
I left because I got tired of puppy kicking over there. It got old. With a few minor exceptions, the people here are intellectually engaging.