Quote from: JOE on November 20, 2024, 02:35:44 PMActually I slightly agree with yer Trump that the Ukraine War needs to end for the Greater good Lokmeer

Even if the Ukraine ends up relinquishing some territory

That being said there has to be security guarantees for Ukraine under a peace deal so Russia never invades ever again

Maybe Biden gave Ukraine the go ahead for long range missles to give them a stronger hand at the negotiating table

 

You've got a death wish...

Quote from: Lokmar on November 20, 2024, 12:31:04 PMI simply dont see how land mining territory thats already yours is provocative in any way. Sure, all the other shit might be but the land mines are a non issue.

If Putin starts lobbing tactical nukes, the West will engage in WW3 and we all get to glow in the dark. The Eurotrashians are prepping for it because they know its inevitable. Too bad they didnt cooperate more with Trump last time he was in office.

Russia has since:

1. Dispersed mobile ICBM nuke trucks to concealed locations.

2. Sent elected officials and spouses to the Ural Mountains bunkers, including Putin.

3. Amassed TU-95 and TU-160 strategic bombers along its borders.

4.Kept an airforce strategic command post in the air over northeast Russia (1 of 5 available).

5. Deployed portable nuke shelters (container design) for non metro civilians. Metro civilians are already covered, including 100 percent of the pop of Moscow.

And it's pretty much assured that the subs are all over the Atlantic and gone dark.

All because of 5 shitty atacms launched and now the landmine permission.

Britain won't be inhabitable at this rate and if the Poseidon underwater nuke drone gets used, it'll send a 500 foot tall radioactive tsunami over most of GB.

So you might think the landmines don't contribute to the situation, I'm saying that every thing the West helps Ukraine with at this point is an escalation leading to a radioactive earth.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 20, 2024, 11:26:47 AMThat is a good thing. The Uke's can plant these on territory they currently hold to fuck up Russians and Norks.

I really dont see the controversy.

Russia is just going to level those areas with hypersonics, thermobarics, and even tactical nukes.

It's a stupid move by Biden and Zelensky is bat shit loco already.

He's demanding 3000 cruise missiles atm.

Ukraine has lost nearly a million soldiers since the start, and heaps of territory. Ukraine is defeated. Dead Country Walking.

Biden also ok'd the use of anti personnel mines on the Russians...

...not good.

Quote from: deadskinmask on November 19, 2024, 10:03:58 AMshit.... nows the best time for patriotism and optimism.... i've put all my conspiracy theories on the back burner to focus on a "better world".... i think we still have a chance....

The Ukraine douche nozzles just used a western missile to strike a munitions building 70 miles inside the Russian border after being warned... 

I thank all of you.. if the inevitable happens.

What a Hail Mary...

"Please save us, our careers, our income streams! We're largely irrelevant media whores who went to Mar-a-Lago a decade ago and got our pissflaps caved in. Please please please meet us after our pissflaps weeped for a decade?"

 

Quote from: Lokmar on November 19, 2024, 12:38:42 AMThe physics of a direct hit by a nuclear missile arent optimistic. Even our standard non nuclear bunker busters can reach passed 200 feet. While there is no public knowledge proving it, it is assumed that we have nuclear bunker busters that were developed with dark funding. The locations of many of the entrances and layouts to these tunnels have been published. Much more is likely known. Now I'm sure the Russians have remote locations under mountains that are survivable, but Vlad Q Public aint gonna be there!

Russian equipment has always been inferior to the USA's superior equipment. I think back to all the subs, tanks, airplanes, and assorted weaponry we've seen come from the USSR for the last 80 years. It was all over rated. The Kinsal missile that was supposed to be the dagger in the wests heart turned out to be slower and less advanced than air claimed by Russia. We got our hands on one so we're well aware of its capabilities. There's also the fact that our anti missile batteries shot one of these impossible to shoot missiles out of the sky.

The US population is screwed but if we had underground bunkers, they wouldnt work in large cities that are prime targets either. Besides, after you put yourself in that hole, you have to live in it and feed everyone. I think the best chance of surviveability is to live in and area away from a direct blast and not immediately downwind of one.

visit https://www.nukepills.com/ and https://atlassurvivalshelters.com/ if you have the money to prep.

What I highlighted in red was once true but doesn't apply any longer. America put sufficient pressure on Russia after the breakup of the USSR to drive them into R&D on hypersonic, MIRV, and subs (manned and unmanned), as well as COG and civilian bunker infrastructure.

The US has chased it's tail.

I don't doubt that both nations would suffer immeasurably and the world at large, but more Russians would survive and emerge from their holes than the US... unless we're just talking about leaders and core personnel.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 18, 2024, 07:21:38 PMNope. Those deep shelters wont save their population. I've read about their shelters under moscow. Those wont survive.

They're known and they're targeted.

You're overly optimistic and patriotic.

Quote from: Herman on November 18, 2024, 08:48:01 PMYep. Now what?

I'll pm you the link. Always have your VPN engaged when you visit the link. The site has a premium/free model. Half the day it's locked up in premium, then when the traffic drops, they open up to random users. Free users can watch new release movies up to 6 months old and series episodes up to 3 months old.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 18, 2024, 05:41:02 PMI dont think that will make much of a difference. Some of it will survive, but Moscow in particular is gonna get pounded into oblivion just like DC. Our military has plenty of info on where Russian leadership will be and those spots will get pounded multiple times just like ours will. Cheyenne Mountain for example, will be a pile of rubble.

Russia has deep METRO shelters for the majority of population.

The US has virtually none. Do you get it?

Quote from: Lokmar on November 18, 2024, 10:26:58 AMI dont think that matters much. America has enough to smoke the fuk outta Russia and China. Sure, more of America will take direct hits but everyone will be fubar'd.

Russia has metro nuclear shelters still maintained. America has nothing for the civilians.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 18, 2024, 08:28:33 AMJust one nuke going off in a US city changes the world as we know it

Just one Yasen Class and all of it's payload could take out the Eastern seaboard.

Quote from: caskur on November 18, 2024, 02:38:50 AMSince hardly anyone is signing up for war who is going off to fight in the first place?

Russia has lost a generation of men and has employed some North Koreans to help out. What was it 3 or 5,000 NK? They'll be picked off in minutes.

I don't really trust Russia's nuclear warheads.... they have probably been sitting idle for decades and self detonate before they leave their launch pads.

Putin is just bluffing like Saddam Hussein tried to bluff.

Biden is pure unadulterated satanic evil...

And thanks to Biden, making matters worse, we are stuck with bloody more refugees. Just what the west needs.... more mouths to feed.

Russian nuclear arsenal has been updated to a large degree and their hypersonic Zircon missiles can't be adequately intercepted (top speed mach 8 or 9), particularly from their Yasen Class subs.Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can carry MIRV payloads at over Mach 25 from long range missiles.

Russia has the larger and better arsenal.

The US is still fixing up old gear and their track record on hypersonic development if to be believed, it's pretty wonky. The US also has a slightly smaller arsenal.