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Chime in Kiebers, our opinions mean nothing anyhow :) all are welcome.
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The Flea Trap / Re: Nine slaughtered in the World's Greatest Democracy!
June 23, 2015, 03:02:35 PMChime in Kiebers, our opinions mean nothing anyhow :) all are welcome.
I get you though,
#2
The Flea Trap / Re: Is it time for South Carolina to take down the Confederate flag?
June 23, 2015, 03:00:19 PMThey have Nazi stuff all the time on there.
#3
The Flea Trap / Re: Nine slaughtered in the World's Greatest Democracy!
June 23, 2015, 02:56:15 PMWhat will it take for the US to take a serious look at gun reform? You guys have had some MAJOR shooting incidences that have left big scars on your country and it's citizens. How bad to things need to get before you acknowledge there might be a problem?Quote from: "RW"
People do acknowledge, but one side wants to be dictators, the other wont give because they are dictators, and hypocrites.
People seem to always want to give freedoms up till it's something they like, or support.
Should we ban doctors ? Of course not, but something needs done about them.
January 15, 2003
By Joseph Mercola, D.O.
At one time, the main title of my Web site read:
Doctors are the Third leading Cause of Death
Many of you reading this have read or seen this in many places other than my Web site. This article, available on my home page, was widely circulated on the Internet and was one of the reasons why my Web site was initially popular. What you may not realize is that I am the one who made this analysis and popularized it. The original study was published by Dr. Starfield, a full professor of public health at the most prestigious hospital in the United States, Johns Hopkins. Her study never had the headline in it, but instead listed the published research documenting the various causes of deaths that doctors contributed to. I simply added them all up and compared them to cardiovascular diseases and cancer and came up with the above headline, which was widely circulated on the Internet.
Interestingly, when I contacted Dr. Starfield by e-mail she disagreed with the headline I had come up with. She did not feel that doctors were the third leading cause of death, but thought they were the number one cause of death because of their failure to inform their patients about the truth of health. Now this might be a bit too harsh as even if people understand health truth they have freedom of choice and can choose to use sugar, soda and drugs (legal and illegal) to compromise their health and longevity.
However, JAMA actually published a study a year earlier that could support that doctors may be the leading cause of death in the United States.
This finding is more of a speculation though, so below I have provided some other studies to support this assertion.
In 1994, an estimated 2,216,000 (1,721,000 to 2,711,000) hospitalized patients had serious adverse drug reactions (ADRs) and 106,000 (76,000 to 137,000) had fatal ADRs, making these reactions between the fourth and sixth leading cause of death.
Fatal ADRs accounted for 0.32 percent (95 percent confidence interval (CI), 0.23 percent to 0.41 percent) of hospitalized patients.
JAMA April 15, 1998;279(15):1200-5
BMC Nephrol. December 22, 2003
Medication-related problems (MRP) continue to occur at a high rate in ambulatory hemodialysis (HD) patients.
Medication-dosing problems (33.5 percent), adverse drug reactions (20.7 percent), and an indication that was not currently being treated (13.5 percent) were the most common MRP.
5,373 medication orders were reviewed and a MRP was identified every 15.2 medication exposures.
Nurs Times. December 9-15, 2003;99(49):24-5.
In 2002, 16,176 adverse drug reaction reports were received, of which 67 percent related to reactions categorized as 'serious.'
Pharm World Sci. December, 2003;25(6):264-8.
Medication administration errors (MAEs) were observed in two departments of a hospital for 20 days.
The medication administration error rate was 14.9 percent. Dose errors were the most frequent (41 percent) errors, followed by wrong time (26 percent) and wrong rate errors. Ten percent of errors were estimated as potentially life-threatening, 26 percent potentially significant and 64 percent potentially minor.
Serious and Fatal Drug Reactions in US Hospitals
Drug-related morbidity and mortality have been estimated to cost more that $136 billion a year in United States. These estimates are higher than the total cost of cardiovascular care or diabetes care in the United States. A major component of these costs is adverse drug reactions (ADE).
Am J Med August 1, 2000;109(2):122-30
About 0.05 percent of all hospital admissions were certainly or probably drug-related.
Incidence figures based on death certificates only may seriously underestimate the true incidence of fatal adverse drug reactions.
Eur J Clin Pharmacol October, 2002;58(7):479-82
In one study of 200 patients, ADRs may have contributed to the deaths of two (one percent) patients.
J Clin Pharm Ther October, 2000;25(5):355-61
In a survey of over 28,000 patients, ADRs were considered to be the cause of 3.4 percent of hospital admissions. Of these, 187 ADRs were coded as severe. Gastrointestinal complaints (19 percent) represented the most common events, followed by metabolic and hemorrhagic complications (nine percent). The drugs most frequently responsible for these ADRs were diuretics, calcium channel blockers, nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs and digoxin.
J Am Geriatr Soc December, 2002;50(12):1962-8
#4
The Flea Trap / Re: Nine slaughtered in the World's Greatest Democracy!
June 23, 2015, 02:50:26 PM #5
The Flea Trap / Re: What's new and exciting?
June 23, 2015, 12:24:27 PMNothing up here, just more life, and responsibilities.
#6
The Flea Trap / Re: Nine slaughtered in the World's Greatest Democracy!
June 23, 2015, 12:22:30 PM"If you are NOT a criminal, why own a gun? Why have police, why have an army ?" You own a gun because of criminals, and for defense. Also they are enjoyable when shooting, you can make money if good enough.
"The more guns sold in America to legitimate purchasers, the more guns end up in criminal hands. True or False?" Most are not legit, most are stolon, or sold out on the street.
The parking lot sales, and back room deals need to go. And as I have said many times before on other forums the ATF does a crap job when doing background checks.
What needs done, and most gun owners will agree I believe is better training with guns, more education, and a better system for buying guns.
Mental issues are a part of it, crime another so have better mental health help from doctors, and for crime better better prisons, and fitting punishment.
Your telling me guns are serious, and dangerous, and they are for sure, the punishments really isn't. Prison is a pretty nice place now days with all they get.
It's all free this, and that like Welfare, you just have to watch dropping the soap .
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The Flea Trap / Re: Is it time for South Carolina to take down the Confederate flag?
June 23, 2015, 12:23:02 AM
#8
The Flea Trap / Re: Is it time for South Carolina to take down the Confederate flag?
June 23, 2015, 12:13:27 AMKeeping that up after those deaths, and the American flag down really does give that one supremacy.
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The Flea Trap / Re: Is it time for South Carolina to take down the Confederate flag?
June 23, 2015, 12:02:47 AM #10
The Flea Trap / Re: Nine slaughtered in the World's Greatest Democracy!
June 23, 2015, 12:00:20 AMWho is that, Anti gun Barbra boxer with her concealed carry, James Brady of the Brady bill who bought his son a gun, Rosie O'Donald, Michel Moor, and his punk men, Sylvester Stallone the Hollywood hypocrite, the soldier that went Allah Akbar, the cop who killed an innocent man ?
A lot of people telling me my guns are bad but like theirs .
I have had them since I was a kid, nobody shot with them yet.
I did pull them of a few people, people breaking in that left quickly.
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The Flea Trap / Re: Is it time for South Carolina to take down the Confederate flag?
June 22, 2015, 11:51:29 PMSecession was an excuse really, but the thing is slavery would have been gone anyhow in the near future.
Countries all over was abandoning it, or doing the share cropper thing which was about as bad as slavery in many places.
What gets me is you hear all this racist stuff, and damning of the US, but no credit for the people who fought, and died to stop slavery.
It's everyone's guilty, everyone owes someone.
#12
The Flea Trap / Re: I'm Going to be a Grandma!
June 22, 2015, 11:43:25 PM #13
The Flea Trap / Re: I'm Going to be a Grandma!
June 22, 2015, 11:35:17 PMAre you suggesting a names yet, Annie is cute
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The Flea Trap / Re: I'm Going to be a Grandma!
June 22, 2015, 11:28:16 PMI just had a grand niece back in December, it was a girl. I was likely as excited as you are.
I spent probably $1500 on her 6 months before she was born even.
It's so great to have a new baby around, they are so special girl, or boy.
I hope all goes well, and the mom is well soon after.
Good luck with having a boy :)