Quote from: Dove on Today at 06:38:55 AMI saw a video of a guy who ended up getting deported because his parents didn't file his paperwork properly when he was little.

 He was raised as an American. Believed he was a legal citizen. Somehow this just never came up for him.

 He is a big Trump supporter and supports ICE and opposes illegal immigrates.

 He got deported back to the country of his birth. A total strange land to him that he has never lived in.

 And even HE still supports the deportations. He is blaming his parents, stating he should have made sure for himself....and still in support of this administration.

 He is working on getting a legal avenue back. I hope he gets help in that. Poor guy didn't even know. His parents are dicks for that.

 Im not sure the status on that man right now but im going to look it up and see if I can find anything on him.

I too support deportations.

But THIS guy isn't the type of person we should be setting out to find and if we do happen to find him because some shittard liberal scumbag politician refuses to open their jails to ICE we need to have a provision for him -- something that lets him know he fucked up but his proven good outweighs his bad.

This type of callous draconian position is not something I can ever get behind

So a person like this goes from being an average middle class American to starving, possibly dying, in a land that he does not know and has little to no chance of succeeding in? Because what? A non-violent law was broken that literally harmed NO ONE? Especially when we consider how riddled with inefficiencies and corruption our court system as a whole actually is? For all we know this guy's parents could have hired some scumbag attorney who only cared about getting paid.

Nah, as a Christian first  I'm not for that. This is a TINY cross section of the illegal migrant population I am advocating for here and we cannot find it in our hearts to show a little mercy and provide them with a lifeline? After the Trillions we throw away to foreign countries that hate us? The trillions we waste on bullshit? But we have to draw the hard line in blood here? And show how dedicated we are to the rule of law? Are you kidding me? Because of a piece of paper with some rules written on it? And we want people to believe we are Christians?

Would Christ do that?  Or would christ so mercy to those deserving of mercy?

We have a small glimmer of hope here. A short lived chance to pull in large swaths of the American population, who, unlike ourselves, are capable of demonstrating humanity on this issue and what are we doing instead? Fucking squandering it -- and for what? Because a law was written a certain way and we have to blindly follow it to the letter? 

Quote from: DKG on January 11, 2026, 11:47:13 PMI'm inclined to agree with you. Although I must say I personally do not like the idea of queue jumpers. And that is what illegal aliens are. But, your position is a practical one.

However, law enforcement at borders must be allowed to do their jobs and prevent illegal entries.

Thats a pipe dream. Not going to happen.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 11, 2026, 11:43:27 PMWell okay, but don't be surprised if you steadily lose the support of people on the fence. Those that are knowledgeable enough to understand how good our president is doing for our economy and standing worldwide, but NOT callous enough to view a human being who has proven decency be thrown to the landfill like trash.

Some people who would otherwise support our side simply cannot reconcile that and many more are not like me, someone who can compartmentalize this tragedy within my own party and still come out in support of the greater good the leadership has to offer. That's a significant contingent of the voter base that I would rather not lose simply because words on paper say one thing and the relatively harmless activities of a migrant stand in contradiction to that.

I understand illegal is illegal. A lot of things are illegal. A lot of things I do pretty regularly are illegal. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Our side is dwindling and this draconian hardliner attitude is only going to expedite that downhill process

think strategically old friend. 

My realism kicked in long ago. We wont even get rid of the 20 million motherfuckers joe biden let in without "murdering" 10,000 liberal karens. I still want to try. Fuk em.

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Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 11, 2026, 10:48:51 PMGood thread, people.  My take aways:

Biggie reads like a bleeding heart pussy when he makes the case for special dispensations for hard working Home Depot beaners.

No. Illegal is illegal is illegal. The only Due Process anyone in this country illegally is entitled to, by statute, is to be apprehended, sequestered and returned to their countries of origin.  Period.

This Administration is bending over backwards to let those illegals who truly do want to be part of America know that they have to self deport to be put on a list to return LEGALLY. If they wait until ICE finds them, they will never be allowed to return.

 I saw a video of a guy who ended up getting deported because his parents didn't file his paperwork properly when he was little.

 He was raised as an American. Believed he was a legal citizen. Somehow this just never came up for him.

 He is a big Trump supporter and supports ICE and opposes illegal immigrates.

 He got deported back to the country of his birth. A total strange land to him that he has never lived in.

 And even HE still supports the deportations. He is blaming his parents, stating he should have made sure for himself....and still in support of this administration.

 He is working on getting a legal avenue back. I hope he gets help in that. Poor guy didn't even know. His parents are dicks for that.

 Im not sure the status on that man right now but im going to look it up and see if I can find anything on him.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 11, 2026, 06:58:03 PMnot that I don't agree with you overall but I had to extract this part to prove what I have been saying for a while.

what you are saying is theoretically true, they ARE getting violent pieces of shit off the streets, BUT...... they are also showing up at construction sites taking decent men and women away to the cheers and sneers of many.. including some of us here.

Now, if there is a warrant or their history HERE demonstrates any impropriety get em..by all means..and Godspeed to you -  but if you IF you are merely using homedepot parking lots and job sites as a way to round up people who, yes, are in this country illegally but WANT to do the right thing and have demonstrated they ARE doing the right thing for YEARS now then a provision should exist to get them there.

But no. many of my brethren want to simply throw the baby out with the bath water and I understand why, but I maintain it is the laziest and most draconian option to pursue and gives the scumbag left a huge leg up in their arguments against us.

I wish we could truly see the glory in having these two legged rodent foot soldiers, consistently, 100% of the time, defend pedophiles and criminals before the uncertain AMerican.

we must be strategic and unfortunately.. conservatives are not all that good at being strategic.. we're just honest and have too much integrity and this is being used against us

 Well you know im gonna say, in being here illegally they are already doing the wrong thing.

 But i am more sympathetic to those people, especially if they are paying taxes. Some of these people are paying taxes under a false identity and they'll never be able to reap any of the benefits. They think just being here is the benefit.

 ICE also handles deportations so yes, they do this.

 But we dont have any laws or provisions for these people and that isnt the fault of ICE. ICE is just enforcing US law.

 Liberal retards focusing on ICE are focusing on the wrong thing.

 If they really gave a shit about these people, hell if WE even gave enough of a shit about them....instead of wailing, crying, screaming and raging and going out there obstructing these men and making these situations more dangerous, risking lives on the streets....everyone needs to understand, ICE is carrying our lawful orders.

 They are enforcing US law. Which is exactly what we voted for.

 Their issue isnt with ICE. It's with US immigration laws. They are just too fucking stupid and lazy to realize that.

 These stupid ghouls screaming about how ICE is a modern gestapo dont seem to understand that immigration law can be changed. We can come together on behalf of people like this.

 Come together on behalf of people like this. Thats the important part, because we are a constitutional republic and we have more influence on our laws than any other country on earth. Our citizens are just too busy drooling on themselves and getting shot by law enforcement to understand that.

 So I agree with you on this, that people who are here doing the right thing should get a break. We can help these people become citizens. There are republicans who would argue that those who go through our difficult process will appreciate being here more and I dont know if I agree with them...but I get it. Because we arent the savior. We are here for those who truly want the liberties and opportunities availble to US citizens.

 I disagree that libs even have an arguement against ICE. Their issue is with the law. They are going after law enforcement in some attempt to make the US look like some dictatorship when thier problem is with laws that NONE of these stupid fucks have even considered trying to change.

 But yeah i think those people here just trying to work and live in peace should have provisions. Unfortunately right now our country doesn't have that, our laws say deport them.

 We can all help that if people rallied together and wanted to change the laws to allow for people like this to have an avenue for citizenship but that hasn't been done as of yet.

 During Obamas deportations no one even thought of that either. And no one was acting like the libs are now. I dont think people even cared much at all.

 So for them to suddenly notice these people and use them as some anti ICE argument while they obstruct ICE from arresting sex offenders (because thats who they were after when Renee Good was obstructing them) is rich.

 I dont believe for one second they give any sort of real fuck about those people. If they did why hasn't anyone fought on their behalf where it actually matters?

 And if they really cared NOW they would be organizing and petitioning on behalf of these people 

 They dont really care, Biggie. If it wasn't that they would have some other issue with our deportations. No matter what they are always going to find a way to argue and oppose.

 I saw these assholes in the comment section of a video showing Iranians resisting and they were commenting....to Iranians....that they dont want this US authoritarian government. They were openly and shamelessly saying that the US is "just as oppressed" as everyone else. Actual Iranians who live here were telling them how ungrateful they are and these fucktards doubled down.

 It was disgusting and embarrassing. But that's the level of delusion and narcissism these people live in. Just spoiled, self absorbed brats who are hell bent on destroying the West and claiming we are "just as oppressed" as anyone else. 

 Our country is set up for the people and if we dont want a law we can assemble and fight properly in courts and in government to get rid of it. Citizens have done this successfully. If we want laws changed, we can fight properly to change them. Its lazy and dishonest for libs to act like this when they could be working for change where they are more likely to see it. I would support that effort.

 It isnt about the immigrants that are here illegally but being productive....its about their hatred of Trump and half the country. If they truly cared...they would be organizing and petitioning.

 Not interfering with ICE enforcing our laws. What do libs think they are going to accomplish doing this? They are changing nothing. Because they dont actually care about these immigrants.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 11, 2026, 06:46:52 PMBut never while a straight gangster was in the oval office

He already told those cowardly goat fuckers that they'd be Maduro 2.0 if they come up out of pocket

and since he's already turned their second in command into hamburger helper on his last go around they KNOW he ain't fucking around

and this time Russia cannot save them

 The internet in Iran was shut down.

 That means they are slaughtering those people.  I read last night that they are still able to get only using Starlink despite the government's effort to jam it.

 Not everyone is able to connect but some of them are.

Quote from: Herman on January 11, 2026, 06:26:39 PMWe've been here before. Massive demonstrations across Iran rattling the foundations of the Islamic state, with protesters risking the wrath of an unforgiving regime, while a watching world wonders if they'll topple a decades-old theocracy.

They haven't in the past. 

I know but the US President never  said we would help them before. Usually our dumb fuck presidents bail them out and send them billions of dollars.

 Plus its never been this intense before. Those people have been trying for years begging the world for help.

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Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 11, 2026, 10:59:23 PMWe used to ambush the Catholic School kids and maul them with massive snowball volleys. 

We public school kids got out a half hour earlier than the Catholic pussies, so we had time to set up our ambushes.

Thankfully, we only had snow one time in Palm Springs when I lived there....and it was at night.