Quote from: Reggie Essent on November 16, 2025, 03:09:52 PMI see your point. Many of these people are decent and hardworking folks who made a place for themselves in our communities and built a life here.

But the open question remains:  if they have been here for literally decades and taken no steps to naturalize, we must ask ourselves why? What "incentive" exists for these long-term illegals that compells them to remain "undocumented?"

Now, I'm not talking about the 10 or 20 million that waltzed in here over the last 5 years, all of them must be removed, I'm talking about the ones that have been here for decades and have become part of our communities.  WHY are they still illegals after so many years?

It is a fact that ICE is tracking down many of these people through social safety net benefit rolls, like SSI, SNAP, Section 8 and various State-run social programs. I think this is at the heart of the incentive structure that compels illegals to remain illegal.

And as I pointed out above, this Administration is bending over backwards to offer these long-term illegals a chance to rectify their status, but it can't be a "blanket amnesty." They have to self deport to be eligible to return legally.  I'd like to see some kind of commission or review board to expedite the cases of these long-term self deportees to return to their lives here, but again, it cannot be a blanket amnesty.  That we cannot do.

We are in agreement. the ones who have floated over during the Biden administration? outta here. no questions asked

But the ones who have been in this country for 20 years and have remained free of societal leeching? A provision should exist which allows for expedited naturalization so that they can get to work helping us build this country back into what it could have been. And I'm sure the good ones would be eager and capable to do so.

I would hold no such mercy for any of them who lived off the tax payer dime, engaged in criminal activity (outside of the border crossing) or in any way milked the system. My provisions extend only to the ones who were honest and here to make theirs and even those around them lives better. Out of the millions that are here I am certain there are a small subset that fall into this category and I am simply not willing to discard THOSE people like trash.

As far as incentives go? I'm sure there are boatloads handed out by democrats hoping to ensure they have a reliable voting block for decades to come. But that is more the fault of the filthy democrat vermin scum than it is those who are leveraging the handouts. Who's more at fault in such a context? the recipient or the provider? in my mind it's the providers as it is the providers we elect to govern our interests and to whom we loan power to under the promise of a faithful stewardship.

So for every illegal working the system to their own advantage? I blame the democrat scum who orchestrate such happenstance and reserve far more hatred for them than I do those who see an opportunity and take an opportunity

Also, in so far as it relates to the good ones who never got naturalized there could be a variety of legitimate reasons which make mercy far more palatable provided the patterns I described earlier are true. For instance, attorneys. our justice process is a fucking joke. it it built upon solid principles and Ideas but the execution is abysmal. things which should take weeks take YEARS to accomplish.

There is absolutely no reasonable rationale to explain WHY the legal process need be so cumbersome, vague and deliberately difficult to interpret. As natural born citizens with above average intelligence I'm sure you and I would find it difficult to navigate the U.S courts on a matter of significant importance. Plus expensive. Imagine such a circumstance befalling an illegal with less education and wherewithal attempting to navigate those very same waters but with limited financial resources.

There is no reason for there not being a straightforward and expedient process to obtain citizenship for those who can prove they've earned it if not for the desire to milk the entire system with endless bureaucracy that keeps worthless judges and other federal leeches employed and attorneys living fat off of despair 

Don't you see brother? It is engineered this way by the Filthy fucking democrat loathsome scum and by taking a draconion stance and allowing your anger to consume you you are falling right into the trap they are setting forth. Make no mistake my friend. Like satan their father the democrats play BOTH sides of every coin in an effort to win by either a large measure or small measure every time they play.

they win big when they are in power and allow an unsustainable amount of illegals into our country and they win smaller when they get to point the finger at broad and draconian responses birthed out of genuine frustration. the problem with the smaller win though (for us) is that when we act in the way they are hoping we act it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of independents and undecided voters. ie look at those republicans, no humanity, no compassion, not even a provision of this decent man who's never done anything wrong just trying to feed his family 

that is NOT a position that resonates with the younger generation. The undecideds and the female populous which tend to be more nurturing and compassionate by default. (most of the time)

These are people the democrat filth DO NOT want us reaching and connecting with on any level.

need proof? See charlie kirk for details. he reached those demographics and in large sums with very reasoned and balanced views and changed the image we projected. So effective was he at reaching this demographic that they had him murdered for it

that alone should tell you where the real "long game" is being played.

We have to get away from these commie bastards while we still can.

Do you want to know what happened to $20 million worth of medical supplies that the Liberals made mysteriously disappear?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 16, 2025, 09:19:35 PMI'm wondering what would make anyone believe that any of us would be enticed to post more because of scat pictures

I usually put people who post shit like that on ignore as quickly as possible

The owner of BF has a shit fetish. That proves the accusations he is crazy are lies.

Quote from: James Bond on November 16, 2025, 11:30:47 AMBF regrets banning wizer. He is trying to show to entice him back with endless scat pictures.
Flynn is picking the low hanging fruit trolling Adam Hitler for being the weakest fuck.
BF is using the realgrimm handle to try and poach members from YNC.

I'm wondering what would make anyone believe that any of us would be enticed to post more because of scat pictures

I usually put people who post shit like that on ignore as quickly as possible

Quote from: Blazor on November 16, 2025, 01:03:37 PMLulz, Mexican citizens already had enough of this bitch lol

I was going to start a thread about this. Not much point now.

This is that Carlos Salinas guy all over again.

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on November 16, 2025, 08:55:38 PMA simple solution.  Buy foreign cars.

As as they are assembled in the US.

I am posting this here.

Conman Carney booed big time at the Grey Cup game.