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The UN Migration Compact - the details are truly worrisome



Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer has come out swinging against a new United Nations immigration treaty that the Trudeau government will sign next week.



"Canadians want their government, not foreign entities, to be in control of our immigration system, a system that is orderly, compassionate and fair," said Scheer on Tuesday.



This is exactly right.



The UN Migration Compact is a highly controversial document, riddled with contradictions and radical claims. While many journalists accept Liberal talking points on the banality of this treaty, a close reading of the document exposes the many problems it contains.



The document promises it is "not legally binding" and merely a framework, but at the same time, it encourages countries to sign the agreement, join the UN's efforts and implement its suggestions at home.





The entire point of the UN Compact on Migration is to form the foundation of new international norms that will, in time, become international law.



The compact promises that national sovereignty and the rule of law will be respected and maintained, but then carves out special rights and protections for migrants and insists that the "well-being of migrants", including illegal immigrants, must come first.



But what about the existing citizens of a country?



What about our families, our communities, our culture and traditions? What about our rules, our laws, our safety and security? What about the costs, the impact on our schools, our hospitals, our roads and our tax dollars?



The UN treaty doesn't so much as mention the impact of mass migration on the host country and its citizens — who are often ignored and removed from any discussion on migration.



The contradictions continue.



The treaty insists that governments must provide "access to objective, evidence-based, clear information about the benefits and challenges of migration." That sounds good. Citizens should know about the harms and dangers associated with mass migration, as well as the potential advantages and benefits.



But wait, the sentence continues to say, "with a view to dispelling misleading narratives that generate negative perceptions of migrants."



You can either commit to telling the truth and objectively studying the issue of immigration, or, you can commit to dispelling negative perceptions about migrants.



You cannot honestly say you're doing both at the same time.



Finally, the most controversial section of this UN compact is Objective 17, which is to "eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration."



It pledges to "eliminate all forms of discrimination, including racism, xenophobia and intolerance against migrants" — without defining these words or acknowledging that in today's heated public discourse, these terms have been weaponized and are used to discredit anyone who doesn't subscribe to Liberal dogma on immigration and multiculturalism.



It instructs governments to implement laws and harsher penalties for crimes against migrants but says nothing about crimes committed by migrants.



And, most controversially, it calls on governments to intervene in the media, to promote positive stories about migrants and to cut off media outlets that tell the other side of the story.



While outlining these Orwellian guidelines for media censorship and government intervention in the free press, the compact throws in a line about "respecting freedom of expression" and "freedom for the media." As if that's any consolation for calls to punish journalists for reporting facts and telling the truth.



Canadians should join Andrew Scheer in rejecting this radical global scheme that undermines Canadian laws and traditions while pushing for mass migration and open borders.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-the-un-migration-compact-the-details-are-truly-worrisome">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -worrisome">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-the-un-migration-compact-the-details-are-truly-worrisome



I know very little  about this. But, if the UN is behind it and Trudeau won't is on board with it, it immediately raises suspicions with me

Anonymous

Canada needs to get own refugee house in order



When it comes to Canada's border woes, the last thing we need is sign onto a united Nations deal that will only further complicates our current mess.



Yet that's just what Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is planning to do later this month in Morocco when he signs on to something called the un Global Compact on Migration.



It's an international agreement that will see countries cooperate to deal with the movement of migrants around the world.



We are, to put it mildly, skeptical of deals like this. The un Human Rights Council seems to do more to shield human rights abuses than it does solve problems. And all the Paris climate deal has given Canada so far is the unpopular carbon tax.



There are few reasons to believe this new deal on migration will make things better and many reasons to believe it will worsen our border woes.



One big worry is that Canada will be pressured into accepting a volume of refugees or economic migrants that is not based on what's best for us but based on what the international community demands of us, that it will obscure the line between immigrants and migrants.



Policies that deliver responsible immigration and integration should be determined by sovereign states, not by international bodies.



"Canadians must be in control of their borders and have full sovereignty over their immigration system, and refuse to allow the government to continue to cede this control to authorities beyond our borders," a Conservative motion calling on the government to reject the compact reads in part. (It was rejected by the Liberals Wednesday afternoon.)



It would be great if this compact resulted in a sharing of best practices that strengthened Canada's immigration system, but currently there is no real plan or funding to care for those who have already crossed our borders.



The united States has a mess on their southern border that's tearing at their social fabric. Europe has no handle on their borders right now.



And while it's true that Canada has until very recently had an immigration system that's the envy of the world, we now have little control over the 20,000 people a year crossing illegally over our border.



Before Canada makes further commitments, we need to fix and fund our refugee system here.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"The UN Migration Compact - the details are truly worrisome



Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer has come out swinging against a new United Nations immigration treaty that the Trudeau government will sign next week.



"Canadians want their government, not foreign entities, to be in control of our immigration system, a system that is orderly, compassionate and fair," said Scheer on Tuesday.



This is exactly right.



The UN Migration Compact is a highly controversial document, riddled with contradictions and radical claims. While many journalists accept Liberal talking points on the banality of this treaty, a close reading of the document exposes the many problems it contains.



The document promises it is "not legally binding" and merely a framework, but at the same time, it encourages countries to sign the agreement, join the UN's efforts and implement its suggestions at home.





The entire point of the UN Compact on Migration is to form the foundation of new international norms that will, in time, become international law.



The compact promises that national sovereignty and the rule of law will be respected and maintained, but then carves out special rights and protections for migrants and insists that the "well-being of migrants", including illegal immigrants, must come first.



But what about the existing citizens of a country?



What about our families, our communities, our culture and traditions? What about our rules, our laws, our safety and security? What about the costs, the impact on our schools, our hospitals, our roads and our tax dollars?



The UN treaty doesn't so much as mention the impact of mass migration on the host country and its citizens — who are often ignored and removed from any discussion on migration.



The contradictions continue.



The treaty insists that governments must provide "access to objective, evidence-based, clear information about the benefits and challenges of migration." That sounds good. Citizens should know about the harms and dangers associated with mass migration, as well as the potential advantages and benefits.



But wait, the sentence continues to say, "with a view to dispelling misleading narratives that generate negative perceptions of migrants."



You can either commit to telling the truth and objectively studying the issue of immigration, or, you can commit to dispelling negative perceptions about migrants.



You cannot honestly say you're doing both at the same time.



Finally, the most controversial section of this UN compact is Objective 17, which is to "eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration."



It pledges to "eliminate all forms of discrimination, including racism, xenophobia and intolerance against migrants" — without defining these words or acknowledging that in today's heated public discourse, these terms have been weaponized and are used to discredit anyone who doesn't subscribe to Liberal dogma on immigration and multiculturalism.



It instructs governments to implement laws and harsher penalties for crimes against migrants but says nothing about crimes committed by migrants.



And, most controversially, it calls on governments to intervene in the media, to promote positive stories about migrants and to cut off media outlets that tell the other side of the story.



While outlining these Orwellian guidelines for media censorship and government intervention in the free press, the compact throws in a line about "respecting freedom of expression" and "freedom for the media." As if that's any consolation for calls to punish journalists for reporting facts and telling the truth.



Canadians should join Andrew Scheer in rejecting this radical global scheme that undermines Canadian laws and traditions while pushing for mass migration and open borders.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-the-un-migration-compact-the-details-are-truly-worrisome">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -worrisome">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-the-un-migration-compact-the-details-are-truly-worrisome



I know very little  about this. But, if the UN is behind it and Trudeau won't is on board with it, it immediately raises suspicions with me

I haven't looked at the details of this agreement too closely either Seoul..



But, I've never seen this prime minister do anything but harm working families like mine, so I can understand your suspicions.

Gaon

This Migration Compact will further erode free speech. I am glad Netanyahu didn't sign on to this. I am not surprised Trudeau did though.
The Russian Rock It

Bricktop


Gaon

Quote from: "Bricktop"Australia did not sign.

Australia still believes Australians and not the UN should decide what speech is permissible.
The Russian Rock It

Bricktop


Anonymous

QuoteThe treaty insists that governments must provide "access to objective, evidence-based, clear information about the benefits and challenges of migration."

As they should.


Quote"with a view to dispelling misleading narratives that generate negative perceptions of migrants."

What Justine will do.

Bricktop

This is subversion by countries who are happy for their people to leave and go to another country, and so ease the burden on their own bankrupt governments.



The author of this nonsense should be brought before a public forum and made to justify and explain his demands.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"This is subversion by countries who are happy for their people to leave and go to another country, and so ease the burden on their own bankrupt governments.



The author of this nonsense should be brought before a public forum and made to justify and explain his demands.

I am just starting to look at the details of it now.

Wazzzup

the UN Migration Compact Objective 17 basically codifies the formerly "toothless" M-103 into law


QuoteObjective 17 requirement to eliminate "all forms of discrimination" in the host population including those that call into question the political opinions of migrants. Here we can see Motion M-103 as a precursor for a larger, more comprehensive Global Compact initiative;
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/cana ... ation-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact



According to this

[size=150]Canada plans to "lead the charge" on the UN's global refugee plan[/size]

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/cana ... ation-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact



if you don't like what your government does re immigration you will no longer be able to say so without being punished.   This is anti-free speech and anti-democracy--This is what tyranny looks like.

Gaon

Quote from: "Wazzzup"the UN Migration Compact Objective 17 basically codifies the formerly "toothless" M-103 into law


QuoteObjective 17 requirement to eliminate "all forms of discrimination" in the host population including those that call into question the political opinions of migrants. Here we can see Motion M-103 as a precursor for a larger, more comprehensive Global Compact initiative;
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/cana ... ation-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact



According to this


I can't vote yet in Canada, but if I could it would not be for Trudeau.  



I don't understand why Canadians put up with him putting Paris and the UN ahead of the interests of the people who elected him. Israelis would demand  Netanyahu resign if he governed like a globalist infiltrator.
The Russian Rock It

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"the UN Migration Compact Objective 17 basically codifies the formerly "toothless" M-103 into law


QuoteObjective 17 requirement to eliminate "all forms of discrimination" in the host population including those that call into question the political opinions of migrants. Here we can see Motion M-103 as a precursor for a larger, more comprehensive Global Compact initiative;
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/cana ... ation-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact



According to this


I can't vote yet in Canada, but if I could it would not be for Trudeau.  



I don't understand why Canadians put up with him putting Paris and the UN ahead of the interests of the people who elected him. Israelis would demand  Netanyahu resign if he governed like a globalist infiltrator.
Israelis, at least most of them, know in a small country surrounded by enemies they cannot afford to play around.  Other places the danger is less obvious.

Gaon

Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"the UN Migration Compact Objective 17 basically codifies the formerly "toothless" M-103 into law


QuoteObjective 17 requirement to eliminate "all forms of discrimination" in the host population including those that call into question the political opinions of migrants. Here we can see Motion M-103 as a precursor for a larger, more comprehensive Global Compact initiative;
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/cana ... ation-pact">https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/canada-opposition-protests-and-a-petition-against-the-un-migration-pact



According to this


I can't vote yet in Canada, but if I could it would not be for Trudeau.  



I don't understand why Canadians put up with him putting Paris and the UN ahead of the interests of the people who elected him. Israelis would demand  Netanyahu resign if he governed like a globalist infiltrator.

If a Meretz led coalition won an election in Israel and governed like Trudeau, that would be tantamount to our nation's surrender.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous

It is only a political declaration, but there can be little doubt the Trudeau regime will try to make it legal after the next election. And there lies any problem with it.

UN Compact bad for Canada



Infringes on our sovereignty





By Brian Lilley



All it took to get Canada's media talking heads to notice the United Nations Global Compact for Migration was for Andrew Scheer to say something about it.



Then, they started fact checking him.



A search of CBC'S website showed no coverage from a Canadian point -of-view about the compact until this week. They had some stories about Germany and Austria debating the issue but nothing about Canada.Then, Scheer said he was against the compact and a Conservative government would not sign on. Suddenly, Canadian media outlets were interested in this international agreement.



It is an odd habit of the media that cover Parliament Hill, they seem to put more effort into fact checking the leader of the opposition, the guy not in power, than the prime minister.



Soon, a former Harper-era cabinet minister was found to dispute Scheer and CBC and the rest of the Laurentian elites were off.



Campbell Clark at the Globe and Mail is claiming that opposition to this treaty is all about anti-immigrant right-wingers fanning flames.



Like CBC, and others, Clark points to a tweet by former Harper Immigration minister Chris Alexander as proof Scheer is wrong.



Nothing like showing a fight between Conservatives while ignoring the actual issue, the actual document. So let's back up a bit.



What did Scheer say that got the media so incensed that they finally paid attention to this agreement Canada will sign onto next week?



"What we're saying today is that by signing on this compact that our sovereignty to make those decisions ourselves as a country will be eroded," Scheer said.



Not true said the media, and Alexander!



"Scheer's statement is factually incorrect: this Compact is a political declaration, not a legally binding treaty: it has no impact on our sovereignty," Alexander tweeted.



Well, Scheer said it will be eroded. He didn't say it would end.



All treaties, all international agreements, erode sovereignty to a degree and some are more welcome than others.



Does Scheer have a point? Absolutely — one he explained in his news conference.



"There's many examples where agreements and pacts and accords signed onto are used as justifications for rulings in our own courts," Scheer said.



On this, he is absolutely correct. And don't think a judge here in Canada won't look to the text of the agreement and say Canada must do more to implement it.



The compact calls several times for signatories to change their laws such as when it says countries should "determine their legislative and policy measures for the implementation of the Global Compact."



This agreement doesn't, as some claim, give everyone in the world the right to immigrate to Canada but it does spend a lot of time talking about rights.



"Refugees and migrants are entitled to the same universal human rights and fundamental freedoms, which must be respected, protected and fulfilled at all times," the document reads.



How will an activist judge interpret that clause in the future?



Or what about the calls for governments to re-educate the media?



"Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including internet based information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on migration-related issues and terminology," the agreement says.



Will criticizing illegal border crossers in the media be problematic in the future? Especially as Trudeau moves forward with his multi-million dollar media bailout?



Supporters of the deal in the media say it means nothing and changes nothing.



If that is the case, why sign it? Supporters of the deal in the government say the agreement has "ambitious goals" and is "full of promise." So which is it?



As countries across Europe walk away from the deal, as Australia already has, perhaps it is time for Canada to reconsider.



We have a long and proud history on immigration and protection of refugees. Some problems in the past, yes, but we have nothing to learn from the UN.



Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives have raised legitimate concerns and Trudeau has replied with claims of racism and xenophobia.



Canadians shouldn't listen to that, they should look to the facts.



And the facts say Canada should step away from the Global Compact.