The 15/hr bullshit

[Frood]

You might want to consider moving to the economic paradise that is the USA, then.

I want nothing to do with the US, as it stands now.

The US is still salvageable. If it continued as is for another decade it wouldn't be.

Too much is being spent now. The dollar is rapidly devaluating before people's eyes.

Absolutely. But, there's still a window to redeem itself. If they win the house next year and the presidency in 24, they will have to act fast. The problem is that Trump Republicans do not believe debt is one of the biggest problems facing the US.

Traditionally, wars happen around periods of American fiscal recklessness.

[Anonymous]

 The problem is that Trump Republicans do not believe debt is one of the biggest problems facing the US.

Because it's not.

[Bricktop]

All my life I have been in favour of higher minimum wages. But, as they have rose in just about every province, overall industrial wages have flatlined or even been clawed back.

Whilst generally agreeing with minimum wage awards, they do have a significant drawback.



In Australia, the increments by which it is increased are small. Maybe 2 to 3% tops.



This is because the Wages Tribunal is fully aware that opening the tap too much will create significant unemployment as employers shed staff to reduce the wages bill.



Some years ago, the minimum wage was increased by substantial amounts and employers screamed as their feet were held to the fire by unions.



Then they started laying off staff, or reducing their hiring rate and the unions got a taste of their own medicine.



Thus, managing a minimum wage is a delicate balancing act that is incredibly complex in the modern world.

[Anonymous]

All my life I have been in favour of higher minimum wages. But, as they have rose in just about every province, overall industrial wages have flatlined or even been clawed back.

Whilst generally agreeing with minimum wage awards, they do have a significant drawback.



In Australia, the increments by which it is increased are small. Maybe 2 to 3% tops.



This is because the Wages Tribunal is fully aware that opening the tap too much will create significant unemployment as employers shed staff to reduce the wages bill.



Some years ago, the minimum wage was increased by substantial amounts and employers screamed as their feet were held to the fire by unions.



Then they started laying off staff, or reducing their hiring rate and the unions got a taste of their own medicine.



Thus, managing a minimum wage is a delicate balancing act that is incredibly complex in the modern world.

If minimum wage had been raised at reasonable yearly rates in Canadian provinces, current rates would not be a burden on small business owners. But, the left pushed for overnight thirty plus per cent increases which forced employers to reduce staff or go out of business.

[Bricktop]

Exactly. That was the situation here in the 80's when unions were at their strongest.



When unemployment went up, the penny dropped. One man's raise is another man's termination.

[Frood]

One union man's unrewarded work performance is another union man's easy street...

[Anonymous]

Exactly. That was the situation here in the 80's when unions were at their strongest.



When unemployment went up, the penny dropped. One man's raise is another man's termination.

Who gets an overnight thirty to forty percent raise. That is what Canadian provinces did to small business owners. In provinces like Ontario, thousands shut down for good or quickly sacked staff.

[Bricktop]

That was a stupid move.

[Anonymous]

That was a stupid move.

Nobody has accused Canada of being a smart country for a hell of a long time.

[Bricktop]

I would have been surprised by that comment until you voted Trudeau in 3 times.



Now, I'm not so sure...

[Anonymous]

I would have been surprised by that comment until you voted Trudeau in 3 times.



Now, I'm not so sure...

His party didn't win the popular vote in the last two elections....the Conservatives did.

[Bricktop]

Further evidence, not that any is required, that democracy in its current guise is failing and does not work as it should.

[Anonymous]

Further evidence, not that any is required, that democracy in its current guise is failing and does not work as it should.

We know.

[Anonymous]

A small business owner responds. It's from the US, but it's applicable to Canada,

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[Odinson]

The problem in Finland that you aint getting enough hours.



Any pay is bad when you dont have enough hours.