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Started by Bricktop, May 31, 2019, 07:51:56 PM

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Strange ... All major prog networks are showing name but not pic .. why would that be?
They all want to keep people believing that mass shootings are the sole property of white males. They are not (they are mostly men there are a handful of women) and the race of the shooters are more or less reflective of the racial proportions in the US.

Negative racial stereotypes are bad in the USA, but encouraged when they are applied to Caucasians.


Because a racial stereotype is negative, it does not render it fallacious.



Nor does it render it immoral to openly discuss it.



Racial stereotypes are not always concocted from prejudice and hatred.

Wazzzup and cc are making the case that some sectors of the USA are creating a false racial stereotype of mass murderers.

Bricktop

It does seem to be a white phenomenon...but I haven't researched it.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"It does seem to be a white phenomenon...but I haven't researched it.

That's what prog billionaire owned media wants us to believe. It is hogwash.

Bricktop

So who were black mass shooters and serial killers?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"So who were black mass shooters and serial killers?

John Muhammad, Paul Dureauseau, Lorenzo Gilyard, Henry Wallace, Carl Watts, Chester Turner, Eugene Britt, Ivan Hill, Anthony McKnight, and Shelly Brooks. There are at least as many black serial killers and mass murderers as whites. The prog owned media doesn't report on them.

Berry Sweet

Americans are too busy getting their slurpies and chilli fritos, or at costco sucking back a foot long hot dog for 99 cents.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Americans are too busy getting their slurpies and chilli fritos, or at costco sucking back a foot long hot dog for 99 cents.

And shaming and blaming whites. They love that in the states.

cc

All of the above 2 posts could be said pretty much equally for Canadians


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Quote from: "Bricktop"So who were black mass shooters and serial killers?

John Muhammad, Paul Dureauseau, Lorenzo Gilyard, Henry Wallace, Carl Watts, Chester Turner, Eugene Britt, Ivan Hill, Anthony McKnight, and Shelly Brooks. There are at least as many black serial killers and mass murderers as whites. The prog owned media doesn't report on them.

That incomplete list alone would require approx. 90 white serial killers just to keep the ratio equally representative  to numbers in society ... and rest assured there would be a picture every time one was mentioned in the press



The prog owned media and progs in general, need the "whitey is bad" prattle to support their agenda



They  desperately cling to it to the point of treating different groups differently .. often "by omission" .. in order to keep appearances suiting their agenda



I'm not out to say any group is worse or better than another - I just like to see actual facts put out there rather than the contrived distortions we get .. in this case  (AND VERY OFTEN)  "by omission"



"Omission" is a powerful tool when misused and the virtually all like-minded team members  follow suit. Blacks are not alone in benefiting from this form of omission - ever notice how long police and press  hold back on islamic names? .. while naming and "pic"ing a whitey ASAP



It has gotten so bad that one knows what group is perp simply by the delay in naming (or in this case pic) of the perp
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Gaon

Quote from: "cc"All of the above 2 posts could be said pretty much equally for Canadians


Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"So who were black mass shooters and serial killers?

John Muhammad, Paul Dureauseau, Lorenzo Gilyard, Henry Wallace, Carl Watts, Chester Turner, Eugene Britt, Ivan Hill, Anthony McKnight, and Shelly Brooks. There are at least as many black serial killers and mass murderers as whites. The prog owned media doesn't report on them.

That incomplete list alone would require approx. 90 white serial killers just to keep the ratio equally representative  to numbers in society ... and rest assured there would be a picture every time one was mentioned in the press



The prog owned media and progs in general, need the "whitey is bad" prattle to support their agenda



They  desperately cling to it to the point of treating different groups differently .. often "by omission" .. in order to keep appearances suiting their agenda



I'm not out to say any group is worse or better than another - I just like to see actual facts put out there rather than the contrived distortions we get .. in this case  (AND VERY OFTEN)  "by omission"



"Omission" is a powerful tool when misused and the virtually all like-minded team members  follow suit. Blacks are not alone in benefiting from this form of omission - ever notice how long police and press  hold back on islamic names? .. while naming and "pic"ing a whitey ASAP



It has gotten so bad that one knows what group is perp simply by the delay in naming (or in this case pic) of the perp

Another widespread misconception fostered by the American media, is that only blacks have been killed by on duty police officers.
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Wazzzup

Quote from: "Bricktop"Because a racial stereotype is negative, it does not render it fallacious.



Nor does it render it immoral to openly discuss it.



Racial stereotypes are not always concocted from prejudice and hatred.
We should always be able to tell the truth no matter what it is.  Unfortunately the truth is often verboten in today's western world.


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Another widespread misconception fostered by the American media, is that only blacks have been killed by on duty police officers.

Twice as many whites are shot by police in most years, but the media never covers cops shooting a white guy.


Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"So who were black mass shooters and serial killers?

John Muhammad, Paul Dureauseau, Lorenzo Gilyard, Henry Wallace, Carl Watts, Chester Turner, Eugene Britt, Ivan Hill, Anthony McKnight, and Shelly Brooks. There are at least as many black serial killers and mass murderers as whites. The prog owned media doesn't report on them.
That's a good list.  I don't know the stats on the whole thing-- problem is how to define a mass shooting and the other problem is the media doesn't specifically report the race of the offender unless its a white guy.   So it often is unknown to the public.



Snopes actually covered this fairly honestly (for a change)  here

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mass-shootings-in-2018/">https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mass- ... s-in-2018/">https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mass-shootings-in-2018/



I would suspect when it comes to mass shootings its roughly proportionate to population.  The media always says mass shootings are a white guy thing but that is of course deceptive because whites are the majority population in the US.



However, When it comes to non-sensationalized murders which are the majority-- the racial disparity is as follows--



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Murders where Hispanics are the offender are about 2 to 5 times rate of whites and murder where blacks are the offender are multiple times as many (usually somewhere between 6 to 10 times).  the graph doesn't show Asians but Asians rates of murder are at or below white rates. (I have another graph that shows that but this post is already way too long)



Lots of good posts in this thread I wish I could comment on all of them.

Bricktop

So, what your saying is that all guns should be removed from American society.

cc

UPDATE



https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-beach-gunman-resignation-good-standing">The Virginia Beach shooter who killed 12 people and wounded several others in a municipal complex on Friday had submitted his resignation earlier that morning, officials said Sunday.



The gunman, identified as 40-year-old DeWayne Craddock, was an engineer with the city's public utilities department for 15 years. In a news conference Sunday morning, Virginia Beach City Manager Dave Hansen described the man's work performance as "satisfactory" with no ongoing issues of discipline.



In response to a reporter's question, Hansen said the shooter had notified his chain of command of his intention to quit via email on Friday, hours before the shooting.



Hansen also reiterated that Craddock was not fired or in the process of being fired leading up to the shooting. Police are continuing to investigate a possible motive for the deadly rampage.



Virginia Beach Police Chief James Cervera said that there was no "glaring" motive and no information on whether the gunman was targeting a specific person.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Bricktop

Another nutjob who easily procured "legal" firearms.



When will they learn?

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"UPDATE



https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-beach-gunman-resignation-good-standing">The Virginia Beach shooter who killed 12 people and wounded several others in a municipal complex on Friday had submitted his resignation earlier that morning, officials said Sunday.



The gunman, identified as 40-year-old DeWayne Craddock, was an engineer with the city's public utilities department for 15 years. In a news conference Sunday morning, Virginia Beach City Manager Dave Hansen described the man's work performance as "satisfactory" with no ongoing issues of discipline.



In response to a reporter's question, Hansen said the shooter had notified his chain of command of his intention to quit via email on Friday, hours before the shooting.



Hansen also reiterated that Craddock was not fired or in the process of being fired leading up to the shooting. Police are continuing to investigate a possible motive for the deadly rampage.



Virginia Beach Police Chief James Cervera said that there was no "glaring" motive and no information on whether the gunman was targeting a specific person.

Did you happen to read if he had a history of violent crime cc?

cc

He had no obvious criminal history, court records show, only several traffic violations over the years.



It remains to be seen what the suspect was after. City officials declined to discuss a possible motive for the attack, but they did say there was no immediate indication that the gunman had targeted anyone.



a person close to Virginia Beach's city government, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the suspect had no history of behavioral problems until recently, when he had begun acting strangely and getting into physical "scuffles" with other city workers.



The person said that tensions had escalated in the past week, adding that the man had gotten into a violent altercation on city grounds and was told that disciplinary action would be taken.



He had a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering from Old Dominion University in Virginia.



Before his job with the city, the suspect worked for private firms specializing in site planning and infrastructure, and had held a professional engineer license from the state since 2008. One of his hiring notices said that his engineering experience included storm water management and utility design for private and public systems.



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/us/dewayne-craddock-virginia.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/us/d ... ginia.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/us/dewayne-craddock-virginia.html
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell