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Will Trump Rescue China's Communism?

Started by Anonymous, June 26, 2019, 10:07:52 PM

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Take this with salt handy. It was written by Gordon Chang. But, if a quarter of this is true, every US government prior to Trump are bunch of frickin traitors.



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China has violated its WTO promises and all the other trade deals. Now, President Trump is seeking to remedy Beijing's failure to follow promises — and its continued annual theft of hundreds of billions of dollars of American intellectual property — by inking another pact.



Moreover, Washington's determination to end Chinese theft of intellectual property also undermines Xi Jinping's signature Made in China 2025 initiative to dominate eleven critical technologies by that year.



In short, there is no chance that Xi will comply with any agreement that is acceptable to the United States.



A trade agreement now will be seen as an end to the "trade war" and as Trump's support for Xi. A pact, therefore, would constitute America's fourth great rescue of Chinese communism.



Three times — in 1972, 1989, and 1999 — American presidents rescued Chinese communism. Now, Xi Jinping's China, plagued by problems of his own making, desperately needs a lifeline.



A trade deal with President Donald Trump looks as if it is the only thing that can revive the Chinese economy and thereby save Xi's brand of communism. Many, in fact, are urging Trump to drop his Section 301 tariffs and sign such a pact.



Will the American president do so?



At the moment, Xi is besieged, blamed for multiple policy mistakes. First, his relentlessly pursued back-to-Mao policies have helped push the Chinese economy downward, perhaps to the point of contraction, as May's depressing numbers suggest. Perhaps the most indicative statistic is that of imports, which during the month fell 8.5%, a clear sign of softening domestic demand.



Economists say consumption now drives the Chinese economy. Retail sales for the month, according to Beijing, increased a strong 8.6%. That figure is suspiciously high because it is based on this figure: retail sales of cars rising 2.1% year-on-year, according to the Ministry of Commerce. However. the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers reported that car sales suffered their worst monthly drop ever in May, down a stunning 16.4% from the same month a year earlier, the 11th-straight month of decline.



There are other symptoms of distress. In a country where the money supply is far too large for the size of the economy, banks are running low on cash for lending. China's stock market regulators, in a highly unusual maneuver, are now urging brokerages to extend loans to keep companies afloat. Most worrying, there is evidence of persistent capital flight, which seems to be picking up in recent months.



Second, this economic downturn is occurring as relations with the United States are deteriorating across-the-board. Xi is being blamed for pushing Trump to start the "trade war." More important, Xi's generally belligerent policies are thought to be responsible for China "losing America."



Third, Hong Kong, a special administrative region of China, is moving fast beyond Xi Jinping's control. He is known to be behind Beijing's increasingly hardline tactics there, where almost two million people surged into thoroughfares on June 16 to protest against China.

Anonymous

Part Two



The immediate concern of the demonstrators was a proposed law that would have allowed extraditions from Hong Kong to the rest of the country. Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam on the previous day said she had shelved the legislation she had so vigorously pushed.



Despite Lam's concession, the crowd on June 16 — more than a quarter of the territory's population — was about double the size of the turnout the previous Sunday. Demands have over the course of two weeks escalated, largely because people no longer trust Beijing to adhere to its promise, documented in a treaty, the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984, to permit "a high degree of autonomy" until 2047.



The message from Hong Kong is that China's communists do not keep their word. Americans should not need reminding of this, as the Fox Business anchor Lou Dobbs pointed out last Wednesday on his widely-viewed show.



Yet, unfortunately, Americans do need reminding, especially the 661 companies and trade associations that signed a June 13 letter urging the president to drop tariffs.



There have been decades of trade agreements with Beijing, including the infamous one in 1999, when President Clinton signed off on what was to become the basis of China's entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO).



China has violated its WTO promises and all the other trade deals. Now, President Trump is seeking to remedy Beijing's failure to follow promises — and its continued annual theft of hundreds of billions of dollars of American intellectual property — by inking another pact. In his June 18 tweet, Trump said he looked forward to an "extended meeting" with Xi at the Osaka G20 summit . The G20 meets this week on the 28th and 29th.



With a trade deal, Washington is seeking structural changes in the Chinese economy that are not consistent with Xi's ideology. In his six and half years as the country's ruler, he has increased state domination of the economy. America, on the other hand, wants the opposite: greater opportunities for foreign companies.



Moreover, Washington's determination to end Chinese theft of intellectual property also undermines Xi's signature Made in China 2025 initiative to dominate eleven critical technologies by that year.



In short, there is no chance that Xi will comply with any agreement that is acceptable to the United States.



China now needs America's acceptance for Xi's policies. Three times, American presidents rescued Chinese communism. Nixon did so in 1972, near the end of Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, essentially a civil war. George H. W. Bush threw Deng Xiaoping a lifeline after the brutal Tiananmen crackdown in 1989. Finally, there was Clinton's WTO deal.



A trade agreement now will be seen as an end to the "trade war" and as Trump's support for Xi. A pact, therefore, would constitute America's fourth great rescue of Chinese communism.



There are, fortunately, two reasons to think no such pact is possible. First, unlike his predecessors, Trump does not believe the success of China's Communist Party should be a goal of American foreign policy. Washington, for this and other reasons, is no longer implementing a "China First" approach.



Second, Xi has been putting a deal out of reach, evidently deciding he would rather have someone to blame for China's various problems — Trump — than solve them with an agreement with the United States. In recent months, Xi has elevated the structure of the Chinese economy to a "core interest." As such, the most contentious matters discussed with Washington in the "trade" talks have become, at least in Communist Party speak, not subject to discussion. Moreover, Xi had the Ministry of Commerce this month publicize three hardline preconditions to a trade deal, essentially telling Trump that America must capitulate to his demands.



China's State Council Information Office on June 2 released its "China's Position on the China-US Economic and Trade Consultations," a white paper conveying Beijing's official position. "China is open to negotiation," the "key document" stated, "but will also fight to the end, if needed."



Bring it on. Trump must also fight, especially because fighting could bring an end, once and for all, to Chinese communism.

Anonymous

Good article Herm. I am not an expert on the real situation with the Chinese economy, but I know their stock market is not real. I would like to read more about the claims of the writer.

Bricktop

The flood of western companies into China trying to tap into cheap labour and thus more profit has crippled the West.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"The flood of western companies into China trying to tap into cheap labour and thus more profit has crippled the West.

Wages are not as low as people assume anymore.

Bricktop

Of course not.



The Chinese people have become wealthy on Western money, whilst maintaining a dictatorial government.



Sooner or later, fire will meet water.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"The flood of western companies into China trying to tap into cheap labour and thus more profit has crippled the West.

Wages are not as low as people assume anymore.

And I heard the industries that pay really low like textiles, have three choices:

1. Leave China for cheaper wage nations.

2. Automate

3. Bring in illegal foreign labour to China from places like Bangladesh.



Zetsu, is the expert, so he can explain the situation better.

Gaon

Quote from: "Herman"Part Two



The immediate concern of the demonstrators was a proposed law that would have allowed extraditions from Hong Kong to the rest of the country. Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam on the previous day said she had shelved the legislation she had so vigorously pushed.



Despite Lam's concession, the crowd on June 16 — more than a quarter of the territory's population — was about double the size of the turnout the previous Sunday. Demands have over the course of two weeks escalated, largely because people no longer trust Beijing to adhere to its promise, documented in a treaty, the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984, to permit "a high degree of autonomy" until 2047.



The message from Hong Kong is that China's communists do not keep their word. Americans should not need reminding of this, as the Fox Business anchor Lou Dobbs pointed out last Wednesday on his widely-viewed show.



Yet, unfortunately, Americans do need reminding, especially the 661 companies and trade associations that signed a June 13 letter urging the president to drop tariffs.



There have been decades of trade agreements with Beijing, including the infamous one in 1999, when President Clinton signed off on what was to become the basis of China's entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO).



China has violated its WTO promises and all the other trade deals. Now, President Trump is seeking to remedy Beijing's failure to follow promises — and its continued annual theft of hundreds of billions of dollars of American intellectual property — by inking another pact. In his June 18 tweet, Trump said he looked forward to an "extended meeting" with Xi at the Osaka G20 summit . The G20 meets this week on the 28th and 29th.



With a trade deal, Washington is seeking structural changes in the Chinese economy that are not consistent with Xi's ideology. In his six and half years as the country's ruler, he has increased state domination of the economy. America, on the other hand, wants the opposite: greater opportunities for foreign companies.



Moreover, Washington's determination to end Chinese theft of intellectual property also undermines Xi's signature Made in China 2025 initiative to dominate eleven critical technologies by that year.



In short, there is no chance that Xi will comply with any agreement that is acceptable to the United States.



China now needs America's acceptance for Xi's policies. Three times, American presidents rescued Chinese communism. Nixon did so in 1972, near the end of Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, essentially a civil war. George H. W. Bush threw Deng Xiaoping a lifeline after the brutal Tiananmen crackdown in 1989. Finally, there was Clinton's WTO deal.



A trade agreement now will be seen as an end to the "trade war" and as Trump's support for Xi. A pact, therefore, would constitute America's fourth great rescue of Chinese communism.



There are, fortunately, two reasons to think no such pact is possible. First, unlike his predecessors, Trump does not believe the success of China's Communist Party should be a goal of American foreign policy. Washington, for this and other reasons, is no longer implementing a "China First" approach.



Second, Xi has been putting a deal out of reach, evidently deciding he would rather have someone to blame for China's various problems — Trump — than solve them with an agreement with the United States. In recent months, Xi has elevated the structure of the Chinese economy to a "core interest." As such, the most contentious matters discussed with Washington in the "trade" talks have become, at least in Communist Party speak, not subject to discussion. Moreover, Xi had the Ministry of Commerce this month publicize three hardline preconditions to a trade deal, essentially telling Trump that America must capitulate to his demands.



China's State Council Information Office on June 2 released its "China's Position on the China-US Economic and Trade Consultations," a white paper conveying Beijing's official position. "China is open to negotiation," the "key document" stated, "but will also fight to the end, if needed."



Bring it on. Trump must also fight, especially because fighting could bring an end, once and for all, to Chinese communism.

I just skimmed the article. That is a lot to take in. I am on my break right now. I will bookmark this and read it tonight.
The Russian Rock It

Gaon

I read this article and did a search. I cannot find anything serious to support the idea that Xi's leadership is on thin ice.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous

Quote from: "Gaon"I read this article and did a search. I cannot find anything serious to support the idea that Xi's leadership is on thin ice.

Depending on the source I found conflicting stories about Xi's leadership.

Odinson

Apparently China executes political prisoners and then scraps them for organs..



Summary...



They are evil and you dont want them to be the masters of the world.

@realAzhyaAryola

If you were to consider the question literally, "Will Trump Rescue China's Communism?" you'd be forced to exclaim, "Why? Trump does not care what is going on outside of the USA."



Remember that his motto is "America First."
@realAzhyaAryola



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Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"Apparently China executes political prisoners and then scraps them for organs..



Summary...



They are evil and you dont want them to be the masters of the world.

I read they did that to executed Falun Gong followers.

Anonymous

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"If you were to consider the question literally, "Will Trump Rescue China's Communism?" you'd be forced to exclaim, "Why? Trump does not care what is going on outside of the USA."



Remember that his motto is "America First."

It's up to China to preserve their own regime.

Odinson

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Odinson"Apparently China executes political prisoners and then scraps them for organs..



Summary...



They are evil and you dont want them to be the masters of the world.

I read they did that to executed Falun Gong followers.


Funny thing happened today..



Some chinese woman gave me a pamphlet about the falun gong.