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New Zealand un-bites the bullet.

Started by Bricktop, July 13, 2019, 10:20:03 PM

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caskur

It probably has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with drug induced mental health problems.... ie nut jobs and there are too many of them these days.
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Bricktop

Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511">//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511



This is what REAL gun control looks like.



Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.


The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down.  But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.



https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg">

Oh, Wazzer...that graph is 6 years out of date.



What will NZ's murder rate look like in 2019 after you factor in 50 more deaths?



And what is the source of that data?

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"It probably has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with drug induced mental health problems.... ie nut jobs and there are too many of them these days.

It's probably a combination of several factors.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"
Oh, Wazzer...that graph is 6 years out of date.



What will NZ's murder rate look like in 2019 after you factor in 50 more deaths?



And what is the source of that data?

The trend has not changed.



U.S. Murder Rate for 2018 Is on Track for a Big Drop

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/us-murder-rate-for-2018-is-on-track-for-a-big-drop.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upsh ... -drop.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/us-murder-rate-for-2018-is-on-track-for-a-big-drop.html



Murder rate hits a 40-year-low, police say

12:46, Sep 27 2018

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415102/murder-rate-hits-a-40yearlow-police-say">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415 ... police-say">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415102/murder-rate-hits-a-40yearlow-police-say

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Oh, Wazzer...that graph is 6 years out of date.



What will NZ's murder rate look like in 2019 after you factor in 50 more deaths?



And what is the source of that data?

The trend has not changed.



U.S. Murder Rate for 2018 Is on Track for a Big Drop

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/us-murder-rate-for-2018-is-on-track-for-a-big-drop.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upsh ... -drop.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/us-murder-rate-for-2018-is-on-track-for-a-big-drop.html



Murder rate hits a 40-year-low, police say

12:46, Sep 27 2018

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415102/murder-rate-hits-a-40yearlow-police-say">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415 ... police-say">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415102/murder-rate-hits-a-40yearlow-police-say

The homicide rate is dropping in Canada too.

Bricktop

But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?

Lower than rate involving knives in Britain.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511">//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511



This is what REAL gun control looks like.



Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.


The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down.  But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.



https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg">

Murder rates have been falling in Canada and the US for years.
Yep in all 4 of the countries in the graph, murder rates, fell.  BUT only one banned guns, the other three did not.

 :thumbup:

Bricktop

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?

Lower than rate involving knives in Britain.


So by that logic, replacing knives with guns will reduce the homicide rate?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?

Lower than rate involving knives in Britain.


So by that logic, replacing knives with guns will reduce the homicide rate?

You seem to think the reverse is true.

Bricktop

That knives are less dangerous than guns???



That is simply common sense.

Odinson

Extraordinary..



The government refunds previously legal items that are now banned..



They should have done the same in America after the abolition of slavery.

Odinson

Better to own a gun and not need one than to need a gun and not have one.



Things going to the direction they are going, we should give guns to females living near muslims and negroes..



Just so that they can go for an evening jog just like in old bad days.

Bricktop


Odinson

Quote from: "Bricktop"Why would you need a gun?


I hunt..