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Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Then I hope your electorate does what is right.

Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of  our many far left parties.

A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.

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Odinson

I´ve been wondering..



Is Yuri a russian name or korean, japanese name?

sasquatch

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Then I hope your electorate does what is right.

Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of  our many far left parties.

A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.

True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"I´ve been wondering..



Is Yuri a russian name or korean, japanese name?

Ri is pronounced EE in Korean and anglicized as Lee.

Anonymous

Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Then I hope your electorate does what is right.

Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of  our many far left parties.

A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.

True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.

The NDP is broke, so they will prop up Trudeau as long as they can. The only acceptable outcome on October 21 is a Tory majority. Sadly. that result is unlikely. Doug Ford's gutlessness is to blame. When he backs down from cuts it makes him look weak and the federal party is taking a hit in this vote rich province.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Then I hope your electorate does what is right.

Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of  our many far left parties.

A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.

True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.

The NDP is broke, so they will prop up Trudeau as long as they can. The only acceptable outcome on October 21 is a Tory majority. Sadly. that result is unlikely. Doug Ford's gutlessness is to blame. When he backs down from cuts it makes him look weak and the federal party is taking a hit in this vote rich province.

I looked at some polling before the ethics guilty verdict and it was showing that the Liberals would win a minority government.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Then I hope your electorate does what is right.

Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of  our many far left parties.

A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.

True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.

The NDP is broke, so they will prop up Trudeau as long as they can. The only acceptable outcome on October 21 is a Tory majority. Sadly. that result is unlikely. Doug Ford's gutlessness is to blame. When he backs down from cuts it makes him look weak and the federal party is taking a hit in this vote rich province.

The Conservatives had a solid lead in Ontario not that long ago too. Canada is screwed if we get anything other than a Tory majority. So, I guess we are screwed.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
The Conservatives had a solid lead in Ontario not that long ago too. Canada is screwed if we get anything other than a Tory majority. So, I guess we are screwed.

I hate to say it, but we would be better off if Kathleen Wynn was still in power, at least until after the federal election. That would guarantee a Tory majority.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Velvet"I really want to fire Trudeau.

If he gets to keep his job, you can blame the voters in my province.

Anonymous

If Trudeau is going to be held accountable, the leader of the NDP has to hold Justin's feet to the fire.



By Anthony Furey of Sun News Media



Why it's up to Singh to expose Trudeau's game



The latest developments in Lavscam are very bad indeed. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been found to have violated the Conflict of Interest Act. We've now gone from the realm of political messaging into the realm of lawbreaking.



There are those engaged in wordplay about how this isn't a real law and it doesn't come with major consequences so it's no big deal. It's true that the Conflict of Interest Act isn't part of the Criminal Code. But if you think it's not a real law, well, all you need to know is that if you want to read the act online you've got to do it at . It's a law.



Deep down though, everyone following this saga knows this already. They know things are bad. It just looks like we're at the point in this affair where it doesn't matter if people truly understand the legal nuts and bolts because their opinions are already set.



Those in the conservative camp and centre-right swing voters were already frowning on Trudeau. Meanwhile, Trudeau's defenders are digging in their heels. It's this latter camp where things could become interesting between now and the election.



One of the main defences of Trudeau right now has nothing to do with the details of Lavscam. It's simply that they've got to rally behind their guy to save the country from that scary Andrew Scheer.



This perspective was well-articulated on social media in a popular post by documentary film producer Stuart Henderson. "I think it's bad that the Liberals were bad on the Snc-lavalin affair," he writes. "However, when compared to the idea of a Conservative government accelerating ecological armageddon while turning its back on the least privileged among us, I simply don't care at all about l'affaire SNC.



"So I'm going to reserve the right to be moderately irritated about Snc-lavalin, while retaining my sincere outrage for the Doug Fords, Jason Kenneys, and Andrew Scheers of the political world," Henderson continues. "Their regressive policies are the only thing that matters to me come voting day."



Let's call this The Dark Knight thesis of Canadian politics. It posits that Trudeau and Scheer are the Joker and Batman. Two diametrically opposed forces — one trying to burn everything down and the other the last bulwark keeping civilization intact. And who plays what role? That depends on your politics. It works both ways.



What makes this even more of a showdown is that Trudeau and Scheer are locked in stalemate. Polls have consistently shown that the two are tied in voter supporter. They both have diehard fans as well as passionate detractors. Their attacks against each other are already set and ready to go.



Progressives are clinging to Trudeau like a thrice fooled lover clings to their lying, cheating partner one last time before the inevitable break-up. They need it to work out now more than ever before. Because if it doesn't, they'll look ever more the dupe for going along with it this far. Once the split comes though, it'll be big and it'll be messy.



White knight



Can Jagmeet Singh cause progressives to split with their white knight, by either getting them to return their support to the party of Jack Layton or at least having them throw up their hands and stay home in frustration? Right now it looks like the answer is no. Both because Singh has so far failed to be an inspiration and because of what Henderson posts about — a deep rooted (and irrational) fear of Andrew Scheer that leaves progressive not wanting to divide their votes among Liberal and NDP.



If there is such a split, it'll come around the time of the debates — when Singh and Trudeau are sharing a stage together.



That's because the PM currently presents himself as the one true defender of virtue on the Canadian political scene — he is the feminist champion, he is the man who keeps us safe from intolerance and racism. He pretends as if there is no NDP, the party that has traditionally been the dominant player on these issues.



That's his shtick and it's amazing he's gotten away with it for this long. Yes, the Conservatives denounce Trudeau as a fake feminist, but that does little to harm the PM in the eyes of progressives who think of conservatives using old fashioned stereotypes. They're not going to take Scheer's word on what constitutes a real feminist.



You know who could call out Trudeau on this front and have it really pack a punch though? Jagmeet Singh.



The question is whether he gets ready for prime-time soon enough to seize the moment and get the job done. It would be a powerful image to see Singh chuckle at our privileged white male PM as he claims to be the defender of all things progressive. It would also be a difficult one for centre-left voters to dismiss.



There still seems to be this idea among progressives that Trudeau, despite how many times he's betrayed them, is worth going back to. That he's their guy. If anyone's going to convince them otherwise, it's Singh.

Anonymous

Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?

This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.

sasquatch

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?

This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.

Yep. that pretty much sums it up. If they are so worried to break the law to protect 9000 jobs, why did it create new ones to prevent 100 000 of them from ever being seen again,right?