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The People's Liberation Army is mobilizing equipment and personnel in the neighbouring mainland city of Shenzhen.

 :ohmy:

All eyes on Hong Kong protesters as China ramps up rhetoric

The Chinese territory gears up for 11th weekend of anti-government protests as Beijing masses forces at border.



Hong Kong - As Hong Kong gears up for another weekend of mass demonstrations, all eyes are on the protesters' next moves after an airport occupation last weekend turned ugly and drew the ire of mainland China.



Four demonstrations unsanctioned by the police are slated for Saturday as the semi-autonomous territory is set to enter its 11th week of anti-government protests amid a political crisis that was sparked by a now-shelved bill to allow criminal suspects to be sent to mainland China for trial.



The protesters' actions on Friday kicked off with calls for a mass cash withdrawal which turned out to be less disruptive than anticipated.



Andy Chan, the head of the now-banned pro-independence Hong Kong National Party, had called on protesters to withdraw money in order to disrupt the economy of the major international finance hub and gateway to China.



Since the escalation, China has moved thousands of paramilitary police to the border near the former British colony, disseminating images and videos of the troops doing anti-riot drills.



Beijing has also ramped up its rhetoric, saying protesters in Hong Kong showed signs of "terrorism", while Liu Xiaoming, China's ambassador to the United Kingdom, warned that the Chinese government had "enough solutions and enough power to swiftly quell unrest" should things became "uncontrollable".


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/ ... 44534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"The People's Liberation Army is mobilizing equipment and personnel in the neighbouring mainland city of Shenzhen.

 :ohmy:

All eyes on Hong Kong protesters as China ramps up rhetoric

The Chinese territory gears up for 11th weekend of anti-government protests as Beijing masses forces at border.



Hong Kong - As Hong Kong gears up for another weekend of mass demonstrations, all eyes are on the protesters' next moves after an airport occupation last weekend turned ugly and drew the ire of mainland China.



Four demonstrations unsanctioned by the police are slated for Saturday as the semi-autonomous territory is set to enter its 11th week of anti-government protests amid a political crisis that was sparked by a now-shelved bill to allow criminal suspects to be sent to mainland China for trial.



The protesters' actions on Friday kicked off with calls for a mass cash withdrawal which turned out to be less disruptive than anticipated.



Andy Chan, the head of the now-banned pro-independence Hong Kong National Party, had called on protesters to withdraw money in order to disrupt the economy of the major international finance hub and gateway to China.



Since the escalation, China has moved thousands of paramilitary police to the border near the former British colony, disseminating images and videos of the troops doing anti-riot drills.



Beijing has also ramped up its rhetoric, saying protesters in Hong Kong showed signs of "terrorism", while Liu Xiaoming, China's ambassador to the United Kingdom, warned that the Chinese government had "enough solutions and enough power to swiftly quell unrest" should things became "uncontrollable".


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/ ... 44534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html

About two thirds of the foreign direct investment in China goes through Hong Kong. Beijing will not tolerate instability indefinitely. However, going in with tanks is an absolute last resort.

Vancouver

I no like the protests in Vancouver. We have nothing to do with China or Hong Kong. Some people are making it a big deal here.
Time is malleable

Anonymous

Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"I no like the protests in Vancouver. We have nothing to do with China or Hong Kong. Some people are making it a big deal here.

I don't like being caught in the middle of protests either TVG..



I haven't seen much yet in Calgary.

Anonymous

#4
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"The People's Liberation Army is mobilizing equipment and personnel in the neighbouring mainland city of Shenzhen.

 :ohmy:

All eyes on Hong Kong protesters as China ramps up rhetoric

The Chinese territory gears up for 11th weekend of anti-government protests as Beijing masses forces at border.



Hong Kong - As Hong Kong gears up for another weekend of mass demonstrations, all eyes are on the protesters' next moves after an airport occupation last weekend turned ugly and drew the ire of mainland China.



Four demonstrations unsanctioned by the police are slated for Saturday as the semi-autonomous territory is set to enter its 11th week of anti-government protests amid a political crisis that was sparked by a now-shelved bill to allow criminal suspects to be sent to mainland China for trial.



The protesters' actions on Friday kicked off with calls for a mass cash withdrawal which turned out to be less disruptive than anticipated.



Andy Chan, the head of the now-banned pro-independence Hong Kong National Party, had called on protesters to withdraw money in order to disrupt the economy of the major international finance hub and gateway to China.



Since the escalation, China has moved thousands of paramilitary police to the border near the former British colony, disseminating images and videos of the troops doing anti-riot drills.



Beijing has also ramped up its rhetoric, saying protesters in Hong Kong showed signs of "terrorism", while Liu Xiaoming, China's ambassador to the United Kingdom, warned that the Chinese government had "enough solutions and enough power to swiftly quell unrest" should things became "uncontrollable".


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/ ... 44534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html

About two thirds of the foreign direct investment in China goes through Hong Kong. Beijing will not tolerate instability indefinitely. However, going in with tanks is an absolute last resort.

I don't believe China will do anything that could further weaken their already slowing economy. The Trump tariffs are having a negative impact on China's GDP.

Odinson

I´ll volunteer for the war..



Just to get myself a chinese wife..

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"The People's Liberation Army is mobilizing equipment and personnel in the neighbouring mainland city of Shenzhen.

 :ohmy:

All eyes on Hong Kong protesters as China ramps up rhetoric

The Chinese territory gears up for 11th weekend of anti-government protests as Beijing masses forces at border.



Hong Kong - As Hong Kong gears up for another weekend of mass demonstrations, all eyes are on the protesters' next moves after an airport occupation last weekend turned ugly and drew the ire of mainland China.



Four demonstrations unsanctioned by the police are slated for Saturday as the semi-autonomous territory is set to enter its 11th week of anti-government protests amid a political crisis that was sparked by a now-shelved bill to allow criminal suspects to be sent to mainland China for trial.



The protesters' actions on Friday kicked off with calls for a mass cash withdrawal which turned out to be less disruptive than anticipated.



Andy Chan, the head of the now-banned pro-independence Hong Kong National Party, had called on protesters to withdraw money in order to disrupt the economy of the major international finance hub and gateway to China.



Since the escalation, China has moved thousands of paramilitary police to the border near the former British colony, disseminating images and videos of the troops doing anti-riot drills.



Beijing has also ramped up its rhetoric, saying protesters in Hong Kong showed signs of "terrorism", while Liu Xiaoming, China's ambassador to the United Kingdom, warned that the Chinese government had "enough solutions and enough power to swiftly quell unrest" should things became "uncontrollable".


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/ ... 44534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html

About two thirds of the foreign direct investment in China goes through Hong Kong. Beijing will not tolerate instability indefinitely. However, going in with tanks is an absolute last resort.

I don't believe China will do anything that could further weaken their already slowing economy. The Trump tariffs are having a negative impact on China's GDP.

There's a lot that Trump  has done that I like. However, the tariff war with China is not one of them. China is not like Western countries that only think to the next election. They have a long term game plan. They will wait Trump out. In fact, I would say they will interfere for the Democratic candidate next year.

Anonymous

I hope the military build up beside Hong Kong is only for intimidation.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"The People's Liberation Army is mobilizing equipment and personnel in the neighbouring mainland city of Shenzhen.

 :ohmy:

All eyes on Hong Kong protesters as China ramps up rhetoric

The Chinese territory gears up for 11th weekend of anti-government protests as Beijing masses forces at border.



Hong Kong - As Hong Kong gears up for another weekend of mass demonstrations, all eyes are on the protesters' next moves after an airport occupation last weekend turned ugly and drew the ire of mainland China.



Four demonstrations unsanctioned by the police are slated for Saturday as the semi-autonomous territory is set to enter its 11th week of anti-government protests amid a political crisis that was sparked by a now-shelved bill to allow criminal suspects to be sent to mainland China for trial.



The protesters' actions on Friday kicked off with calls for a mass cash withdrawal which turned out to be less disruptive than anticipated.



Andy Chan, the head of the now-banned pro-independence Hong Kong National Party, had called on protesters to withdraw money in order to disrupt the economy of the major international finance hub and gateway to China.



Since the escalation, China has moved thousands of paramilitary police to the border near the former British colony, disseminating images and videos of the troops doing anti-riot drills.



Beijing has also ramped up its rhetoric, saying protesters in Hong Kong showed signs of "terrorism", while Liu Xiaoming, China's ambassador to the United Kingdom, warned that the Chinese government had "enough solutions and enough power to swiftly quell unrest" should things became "uncontrollable".


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/ ... 44534.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/eyes-hong-kong-protesters-china-ramps-rhetoric-190816124344534.html

About two thirds of the foreign direct investment in China goes through Hong Kong. Beijing will not tolerate instability indefinitely. However, going in with tanks is an absolute last resort.

I don't believe China will do anything that could further weaken their already slowing economy. The Trump tariffs are having a negative impact on China's GDP.

There's a lot that Trump  has done that I like. However, the tariff war with China is not one of them. China is not like Western countries that only think to the next election. They have a long term game plan. They will wait Trump out. In fact, I would say they will interfere for the Democratic candidate next year.

I understand what he is trying to do. Bush and Obama knew China was cheating and neither of them had the stones to confront the Chinks. But, like you said, because of their political system, China has the advantage here. They will wait until there's another globalist democRAT in the white house that they control like a circus monkey.

Anonymous

What Canada can do about Hong Kong



In recent weeks, the daily flow of young protesters getting tear gassed, truncheoned, fired at and assailed by anti-riot police and violent triad members on Hong Kong's streets, in its MTR stations and at its shopping malls has grabbed headlines worldwide, sparking a crisis for the Chinese leadership unlike any it has faced since Tiananmen Square in 1989.



What started as a protest against a controversial extradition bill has mutated into a rising act of defiance against the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the "one country, two systems" formula, under which Hong Kong was incorporated into the People's Republic of China in 1997. Young activists and a large swath of society behind them are now openly challenging Beijing's writ in Hong Kong and are willing to take risks to defend their way of life.



Beijing has launched a campaign to discredit the protesters as "rioters," even suggesting that some of their actions constitute "terrorism" — a term the Party has normally used to describe resistance in majority-Muslim Xinjiang and the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. China has also signalled that the People's Armed Police (PAP), and, in the extreme, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) garrisoned in Hong Kong could become involved.



Beijing cannot — and will not — back down, as this could lead to similar appeals by other minorities in China and directly challenge the CCP's grip on Chinese society. Unless the protesters back down (only temporarily, as the underlying issues will not have been addressed), Beijing and its proxies in Hong Kong will remain committed to an escalatory policy of repression.



Knowing this, what can Canada do to prevent excesses, if not a bloodbath, and ensure Hong Kong residents can defend their rights and freedoms? So far, our government's response has been disappointing and, at best, inconsistent. Canada can, and should, do more.



The situation calls for Canada to join and co-ordinate with other democracies in condemning police excesses in Hong Kong and calling for an independent inquiry into the matter. Ottawa should hold Beijing and Hong Kong authorities to account for violating their commitments and responsibilities under the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration and Hong Kong's Basic Law. It should also call for the complete removal of the extradition bill and for the release of unfairly detained protesters.



The Canadian government should avoid adopting Beijing's propaganda which refers to the protesters as "rioters" and should not legitimize claims to a moral equivalence between the two sides. It should also firmly condemn Beijing's claim that the protesters have engaged in terrorism, while nevertheless encouraging protesters to continue to adhere to peaceful strategies.



Ottawa must also ensure that Hong Kong students and their supporters on campuses nationwide can organize events without risks of intimidation or physical attack by their Chinese counterparts. With the Hong Kong crisis going global, law enforcement must look after the safety of people of Hong Kong origin who reside in Canada, as some of them may become targets of intimidation and retaliation by CCP proxies.



Finally, in concert with other countries, Canada should also be ready to impose targeted sanctions or travel bans against Hong Hong and/or CCP officials who are complicit in police brutality against peaceful protesters, especially if a PAP/PLA deployment in Hong Kong were to materialize. Ottawa should also make necessary preparations to offer assistance to imperilled Hong Kong residents seeking asylum in Canada. In a co-ordinated warning to Beijing, Canada must state that a PAP/PLA crackdown in Hong Kong would carry serious consequences for the CCP.



Given the severity of the situation and the potential for serious harm, rhetoric alone will unlikely change Beijing's behaviour. Canada and like-minded allies must be prepared to respond should Beijing decide to act on its authoritarian instincts in Hong Kong.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/cole-what-canada-can-do-about-hong-kong">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -hong-kong">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/cole-what-canada-can-do-about-hong-kong



This could not have come at a worse time for the global economy. And with Beijing punishing us for not interfering in the Huawei executive case, it puts this country between a rock and a hard place.

Anonymous

QuoteBeijing cannot — and will not — back down, as this could lead to similar appeals by other minorities in China and directly challenge the CCP's grip on Chinese society.

The Chinks aint going to let history repeat itself. Before the Tianamen massacre, anti government protests spread to four hundred cities across China.

Anonymous

Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"I no like the protests in Vancouver. We have nothing to do with China or Hong Kong. Some people are making it a big deal here.

Are they all over the city or concentrated in one area?

Vancouver

Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"I no like the protests in Vancouver. We have nothing to do with China or Hong Kong. Some people are making it a big deal here.

Are they all over the city or concentrated in one area?

There was a protested at Broadway SkyTrain station. There's a wall at Simon Fraser university covered with hundreds of notes. Some Chinese guy in New Westminster writing stuff on the streets and stairwells. Trying to spread awareness and draw attention. People think we need to band together and support Hong Kong. Nobody trying to get us to care about other cities around the world. Hong Kong-ers must be more important.
Time is malleable

Bricktop

We tend to see this through western eyes...as we do with all things China and Russia. Our perception is that these monolithic dictatorships are omnipotent, and the West is ineffectual and powerless.



That is not the case.



As much as the West relies on China for cheap labour, China is now dependent on Western revenue. It is not a one way level of influence. Trump's sanctions are hurting China...and if they behave contrary to Western interests and values they risk even more pain.



Western money is the foundation of China's wealth. Without it, China would be in dire peril.



30 years ago, the tanks would have rolled in to Hong Kong weeks ago. Today, China must heed the consequences of military action on their own circumstances.



The West can absorb much more pain than China. We may experience disruption to our consumer goods...but China risks millions of workers no longer having jobs.

Vancouver

Today's protest in Vancouver. The Hong Kong supporters in black shirts vs China people in the red. I fear that this is gonna be a weekly thing.

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Time is malleable