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COVID-19 >> New Drug Activity & VACCINE TRACKING!!

Started by cc, January 26, 2020, 09:18:38 PM

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Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=422595 time=1633536527 user_id=2015
Quote from: cc post_id=422594 time=1633536026 user_id=88
I have not seen other countries do comparison of vaxxed vs unvaxxed / 100,000  (or per any number)- all I've seen is  profs saying the things about other countries that we hear on conspiracy sites



(8.47 x greater chance of infection) & & (21.588 x greater chance of hospitalization) for unvaxxed are specifics, not general claims / words .. and are  based on Official Medical Ministries

I've read Countries with high vaccination rates have high infection rates. This fourth wave is weird.

Scientifically other countries using the same drugs cannot find significantly different results .. that would defy both science and human logic "if" it were true



Profs can claim anything, but actual comparisons by countries Official Medical System I have not been able to find

The numbers above are directly from BC Health & official ... not reported second hand



Can you point me to countries own "official" comparisons between vaxxed and unvaxxed?

Profs claiming they compared and don't produce official numbers doesn't cut it or have any more credibility than conspiracist material .. and hopefully from solider areas  than "The Blaze" which posts many  antivax articles .. articles often used by conspiracists to support their cause .. The one quoted up above for sure will be
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=422598 time=1633536939 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=422595 time=1633536527 user_id=2015
Quote from: cc post_id=422594 time=1633536026 user_id=88
I have not seen other countries do comparison of vaxxed vs unvaxxed / 100,000  (or per any number)- all I've seen is  profs saying the things about other countries that we hear on conspiracy sites



(8.47 x greater chance of infection) & & (21.588 x greater chance of hospitalization) for unvaxxed are specifics, not general claims / words .. and are  based on Official Medical Ministries

I've read Countries with high vaccination rates have high infection rates. This fourth wave is weird.

Scientifically other countries using the same drugs cannot find significantly different results .. that would defy both science and human logic "if" it were true



Profs can claim anything, but actual comparisons by countries Official Medical System I have not been able to find

The numbers above are directly from BC Health & official ... not reported second hand



Can you point me to countries own "official" comparisons between vaxxed and unvaxxed?

Profs claiming they compared and don't produce official numbers doesn't cut it or have any more credibility than conspiracist material .. and hopefully from solider areas  than "The Blaze" which posts many  antivax articles .. articles often used by conspiracists to support their cause

Israel, the States, Britain. Highly vaccinated and high infections. India low vaccination I think, but lower infection rate.



I'm pro vaccination. I'm just pointing out fourth wave unexplained weirdness.

cc

Yes, I know you are pro. I think some is because of opening up fully and also not requiring proof of vax .. there will be a "reason"



The infections are high but I can't find solid Govt data on "who" are getting sick and any official comparison (by Govt numbers, not by words) of cases & hospitalizations between vaxxed vs unvaxxed in other countries



I do know from my own raw calcs that UK & Israel lead the world by a wide margin  on deaths / case .. 0.34% in UK & 0.32% in Israel over past 10 weeks ... US is a very high (by recent numbers) 1.12% for example



but still no raw and official numbers on vaxxed vs unvaxxed except for parts of Canada
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

I too share cc's suapicion that when we reopened we had no way of knowing who was vaccinated.

Blazor

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/086/856/326/original/67dab0af4b28688a.jpg">https://media.gab.com/system/media_atta ... 28688a.jpg">https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/086/856/326/original/67dab0af4b28688a.jpg[/img]
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

Quote from: Blazor post_id=422607 time=1633549870 user_id=2221

You didn't check this link either. 88.4% of deaths in NSW are not vaccinated. Less than 2% of ICU admissions are fully vaxxed.

cc

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Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=422608 time=1633551232 user_id=56
You didn't check this link either. 88.4% of deaths in NSW are not vaccinated. Less than 2% of ICU admissions are fully vaxxed.

Do you have link for those true stats, Shen? Put an end to this stuff



As to site posted



 First sentence > " alleged disease."   ac_smile



WE URGENTLY NEED YOUR HELP

We're now 23% of the way through October but only

14% funded for the month. We urgently need your

help to get back on track...

It's quick and easy...



Another link on site  takes one to VAERS references ..... we've already done that one

Here's the actual story on deaths : https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211004_00.aspx">https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Page ... 04_00.aspx">https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211004_00.aspx Oct 4 / 2021



Sadly, NSW Health is today reporting the deaths of six people with COVID-19 – three women and three men.



Four people were not vaccinated, one person had received one dose [/b]of a COVID-19 vaccine, and one person had received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine.



The person who had received two doses of a COVID-19 was a woman in her 90s who died at Hawkesbury Living Nursing Home. This is the fourth death linked to this outbreak.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=422608 time=1633551232 user_id=56
Quote from: Blazor post_id=422607 time=1633549870 user_id=2221

You didn't check this link either. 88.4% of deaths in NSW are not vaccinated. Less than 2% of ICU admissions are fully vaxxed.

Old Blaze fell for another one.

cc

The site is literally begging for money. I hope he saves his for beer
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=422620 time=1633568144 user_id=88
The site is literally begging for money. I hope he saves his for beer

I hope he aint giving those con artists money. They will post any fake stats if you pay them enough.

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=422614 time=1633561648 user_id=88
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=422608 time=1633551232 user_id=56
You didn't check this link either. 88.4% of deaths in NSW are not vaccinated. Less than 2% of ICU admissions are fully vaxxed.

Do you have link for those true stats, Shen? Put an end to this stuff

Yep.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/unvaccinated-patients-dominate-covid-deaths-and-ic">https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinic ... ths-and-ic">https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/unvaccinated-patients-dominate-covid-deaths-and-ic



There are other sources for New South Wales that totally refute the fake numbers from the fake site Blazor posted. As others have said, I hope he didn't give those scammers his beer money.

cc

Thanks - Anything worthwhile has more clout when linked
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=422633 time=1633575585 user_id=56
Quote from: cc post_id=422614 time=1633561648 user_id=88
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=422608 time=1633551232 user_id=56
You didn't check this link either. 88.4% of deaths in NSW are not vaccinated. Less than 2% of ICU admissions are fully vaxxed.

Do you have link for those true stats, Shen? Put an end to this stuff

Yep.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/unvaccinated-patients-dominate-covid-deaths-and-ic">https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinic ... ths-and-ic">https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/unvaccinated-patients-dominate-covid-deaths-and-ic



There are other sources for New South Wales that totally refute the fake numbers from the fake site Blazor posted. As others have said, I hope he didn't give those scammers his beer money.

I didn't look it up, but I saw Blazor's link and that was enough to know it wasn't real information.

Anonymous

President Joe Biden in recent weeks has championed COVID-19 vaccine booster shots as a means of strengthening protection against the virus, but now experts are reportedly advising the president's administration to back off, arguing the science doesn't justify widespread use of the third shot.



According to Politico, several prominent doctors and scientists outside of the administration held a call with federal officials last week advising against promoting COVID-19 booster shots. These experts said that current data on vaccine performance doesn't support using booster shots widely to reduce the risk of a breakthrough COVID-19 infection.

Anonymous

Which is why I have better immunity than the fully vaccinated.



Pfizer Scientists in Undercover Videos Say Natural Immunity Likely Better Than COVID-19 Vaccination



A trio of scientists at Pfizer were recorded speaking to undercover reporters about the existence of natural immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19, with one saying employees had been told not to discuss the protection publicly.



Natural immunity refers to the protection people enjoy against the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus after recovering from COVID-19.



"When somebody is naturally immune—like they got COVID—they probably have better, like not better, but more antibodies against the virus," said Nick Carl, one of the scientists.



"So your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination," he added later.



Chris Croce, another scientist at Pfizer, told an undercover reporter that people are "probably more" protected by natural immunity when compared with vaccination.



"You're protected most likely for longer since there was a natural response," he said.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/pfizer-scientists-in-undercover-videos-say-natural-immunity-likely-better-than-covid-19-vaccination_4034713.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-07&mktids=834a710dbc101f0a6fc6ece50ef33e91&est=wKWOM3mmR%2Bhjsvlv4o3hbNp2Mx4I08G2ji0KJH6a0Dup5qAD7vxbGPcASEUjuUyBkw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morni ... yBkw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/pfizer-scientists-in-undercover-videos-say-natural-immunity-likely-better-than-covid-19-vaccination_4034713.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-07&mktids=834a710dbc101f0a6fc6ece50ef33e91&est=wKWOM3mmR%2Bhjsvlv4o3hbNp2Mx4I08G2ji0KJH6a0Dup5qAD7vxbGPcASEUjuUyBkw%3D%3D