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Poland opens floodgates to mass immigration

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What a shame.


QuoteThe Poles repeat Germany's mistake: pretending immigrants will go home



Poland, one of the eu's most homogenous countries, is becoming a country of immigration. It took in more workers from outside the eu in 2018 than any other country—nearly five times more than Germany—and is likely to have repeated the trick again in 2019. Nearly 2m Ukrainians have arrived since 2014, pushed by a ropy national economy and a war in the country's east, and pulled by higher wages in Poland. They are not alone. In the past three years 36,000 Nepalese, 20,000 Indians and 18,000 Bangladeshis have moved to Poland. It is a big shift: Poland, a country of 38m inhabitants, had only 100,000 foreigners of any stripe in 2011.



The first error is a belief that temporary workers will remain temporary. Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and some other former Soviet countries can work for up to six months in Poland without a visa. Polish officials refer blithely to Ukrainians working in the "grey market" and paying no social insurance. Tricky questions, such as how to integrate new arrivals, are ducked. Why bother thinking about such things if the newcomers will soon go home? Similar "guest worker" schemes have been tried before. Germany welcomed about 2m guest workers from the 1950s to the 1970s. When many turned out to be permanent, the government decided not to kick them out. Former chancellor Willy Brandt, a Social Democrat, said doing so would be "irresponsible, inhumane and entirely uneconomical". Poland's ruling party would have fewer qualms over deportation. But its leaders might be deterred by the expense and the damage to the economy.



Noisy populists, quiet globalists

The Polish government's most quintessentially European trait, when it comes to migration, is its unwillingness to discuss the topic and, more important, to make a case for it. Perhaps this is because the government is more hypocritical than most. pis is one of Europe's most illiberal governing parties, yet it has one of its most liberal immigration policies. It is like a dirty secret. When one minister admitted that immigration was necessary for the Polish economy to keep zooming along, he was fired. Like its neighbours to the west, Poland's government has opted for a combination of naivety, deceit and hope that things will sort themselves out. Perhaps it is just the European way. But it is unlikely to work.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/0 ... cle-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3

Anonymous

I thought Poland was doing everything it could to block immigration.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"What a shame.


QuoteThe Poles repeat Germany's mistake: pretending immigrants will go home



Poland, one of the eu's most homogenous countries, is becoming a country of immigration. It took in more workers from outside the eu in 2018 than any other country—nearly five times more than Germany—and is likely to have repeated the trick again in 2019. Nearly 2m Ukrainians have arrived since 2014, pushed by a ropy national economy and a war in the country's east, and pulled by higher wages in Poland. They are not alone. In the past three years 36,000 Nepalese, 20,000 Indians and 18,000 Bangladeshis have moved to Poland. It is a big shift: Poland, a country of 38m inhabitants, had only 100,000 foreigners of any stripe in 2011.



The first error is a belief that temporary workers will remain temporary. Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and some other former Soviet countries can work for up to six months in Poland without a visa. Polish officials refer blithely to Ukrainians working in the "grey market" and paying no social insurance. Tricky questions, such as how to integrate new arrivals, are ducked. Why bother thinking about such things if the newcomers will soon go home? Similar "guest worker" schemes have been tried before. Germany welcomed about 2m guest workers from the 1950s to the 1970s. When many turned out to be permanent, the government decided not to kick them out. Former chancellor Willy Brandt, a Social Democrat, said doing so would be "irresponsible, inhumane and entirely uneconomical". Poland's ruling party would have fewer qualms over deportation. But its leaders might be deterred by the expense and the damage to the economy.



Noisy populists, quiet globalists

The Polish government's most quintessentially European trait, when it comes to migration, is its unwillingness to discuss the topic and, more important, to make a case for it. Perhaps this is because the government is more hypocritical than most. pis is one of Europe's most illiberal governing parties, yet it has one of its most liberal immigration policies. It is like a dirty secret. When one minister admitted that immigration was necessary for the Polish economy to keep zooming along, he was fired. Like its neighbours to the west, Poland's government has opted for a combination of naivety, deceit and hope that things will sort themselves out. Perhaps it is just the European way. But it is unlikely to work.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/0 ... cle-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3

I knew Poland has a shitload of us Ukes. I did not know they have a growing number of South Asians, many of whom are muslim.

Anonymous

What made Poland different from Western Europe is that their city squares don't have cement barriers to prevent muslimes from using large vehicles like weapons of mass destruction. Warsaw had no Muslim no go zones. I guess they like what's happening in Bradford, Brussels, Malmo and Marseille. :crazy:

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"What made Poland different from Western Europe is that their city squares don't have cement barriers to prevent muslimes from using large vehicles like weapons of mass destruction. Warsaw had no Muslim no go zones. I guess they like what's happening in Bradford, Brussels, Malmo and Marseille. :crazy:

Another country surrenders.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"What a shame.


QuoteThe Poles repeat Germany's mistake: pretending immigrants will go home



Poland, one of the eu's most homogenous countries, is becoming a country of immigration. It took in more workers from outside the eu in 2018 than any other country—nearly five times more than Germany—and is likely to have repeated the trick again in 2019. Nearly 2m Ukrainians have arrived since 2014, pushed by a ropy national economy and a war in the country's east, and pulled by higher wages in Poland. They are not alone. In the past three years 36,000 Nepalese, 20,000 Indians and 18,000 Bangladeshis have moved to Poland. It is a big shift: Poland, a country of 38m inhabitants, had only 100,000 foreigners of any stripe in 2011.



The first error is a belief that temporary workers will remain temporary. Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and some other former Soviet countries can work for up to six months in Poland without a visa. Polish officials refer blithely to Ukrainians working in the "grey market" and paying no social insurance. Tricky questions, such as how to integrate new arrivals, are ducked. Why bother thinking about such things if the newcomers will soon go home? Similar "guest worker" schemes have been tried before. Germany welcomed about 2m guest workers from the 1950s to the 1970s. When many turned out to be permanent, the government decided not to kick them out. Former chancellor Willy Brandt, a Social Democrat, said doing so would be "irresponsible, inhumane and entirely uneconomical". Poland's ruling party would have fewer qualms over deportation. But its leaders might be deterred by the expense and the damage to the economy.



Noisy populists, quiet globalists

The Polish government's most quintessentially European trait, when it comes to migration, is its unwillingness to discuss the topic and, more important, to make a case for it. Perhaps this is because the government is more hypocritical than most. pis is one of Europe's most illiberal governing parties, yet it has one of its most liberal immigration policies. It is like a dirty secret. When one minister admitted that immigration was necessary for the Polish economy to keep zooming along, he was fired. Like its neighbours to the west, Poland's government has opted for a combination of naivety, deceit and hope that things will sort themselves out. Perhaps it is just the European way. But it is unlikely to work.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/0 ... cle-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3

This is surprise. I thought of Poland as the Japan of Europe, zealously protecting the nation race. But, immigration for a country with low birth rate is inevitable. Korea is an immigrant destination now. They have no choice if they want to pay all the IOU's they wrote for retirees.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Shen Li"What made Poland different from Western Europe is that their city squares don't have cement barriers to prevent muslimes from using large vehicles like weapons of mass destruction. Warsaw had no Muslim no go zones. I guess they like what's happening in Bradford, Brussels, Malmo and Marseille. :crazy:

Another country surrenders.

Shame on the Polish government.

Gaon

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"What a shame.


QuoteThe Poles repeat Germany's mistake: pretending immigrants will go home



Poland, one of the eu's most homogenous countries, is becoming a country of immigration. It took in more workers from outside the eu in 2018 than any other country—nearly five times more than Germany—and is likely to have repeated the trick again in 2019. Nearly 2m Ukrainians have arrived since 2014, pushed by a ropy national economy and a war in the country's east, and pulled by higher wages in Poland. They are not alone. In the past three years 36,000 Nepalese, 20,000 Indians and 18,000 Bangladeshis have moved to Poland. It is a big shift: Poland, a country of 38m inhabitants, had only 100,000 foreigners of any stripe in 2011.



The first error is a belief that temporary workers will remain temporary. Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and some other former Soviet countries can work for up to six months in Poland without a visa. Polish officials refer blithely to Ukrainians working in the "grey market" and paying no social insurance. Tricky questions, such as how to integrate new arrivals, are ducked. Why bother thinking about such things if the newcomers will soon go home? Similar "guest worker" schemes have been tried before. Germany welcomed about 2m guest workers from the 1950s to the 1970s. When many turned out to be permanent, the government decided not to kick them out. Former chancellor Willy Brandt, a Social Democrat, said doing so would be "irresponsible, inhumane and entirely uneconomical". Poland's ruling party would have fewer qualms over deportation. But its leaders might be deterred by the expense and the damage to the economy.



Noisy populists, quiet globalists

The Polish government's most quintessentially European trait, when it comes to migration, is its unwillingness to discuss the topic and, more important, to make a case for it. Perhaps this is because the government is more hypocritical than most. pis is one of Europe's most illiberal governing parties, yet it has one of its most liberal immigration policies. It is like a dirty secret. When one minister admitted that immigration was necessary for the Polish economy to keep zooming along, he was fired. Like its neighbours to the west, Poland's government has opted for a combination of naivety, deceit and hope that things will sort themselves out. Perhaps it is just the European way. But it is unlikely to work.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/0 ... cle-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3

That is an about face for the governing Law and Justice Party.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous

Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"What a shame.


QuoteThe Poles repeat Germany's mistake: pretending immigrants will go home



Poland, one of the eu's most homogenous countries, is becoming a country of immigration. It took in more workers from outside the eu in 2018 than any other country—nearly five times more than Germany—and is likely to have repeated the trick again in 2019. Nearly 2m Ukrainians have arrived since 2014, pushed by a ropy national economy and a war in the country's east, and pulled by higher wages in Poland. They are not alone. In the past three years 36,000 Nepalese, 20,000 Indians and 18,000 Bangladeshis have moved to Poland. It is a big shift: Poland, a country of 38m inhabitants, had only 100,000 foreigners of any stripe in 2011.



The first error is a belief that temporary workers will remain temporary. Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and some other former Soviet countries can work for up to six months in Poland without a visa. Polish officials refer blithely to Ukrainians working in the "grey market" and paying no social insurance. Tricky questions, such as how to integrate new arrivals, are ducked. Why bother thinking about such things if the newcomers will soon go home? Similar "guest worker" schemes have been tried before. Germany welcomed about 2m guest workers from the 1950s to the 1970s. When many turned out to be permanent, the government decided not to kick them out. Former chancellor Willy Brandt, a Social Democrat, said doing so would be "irresponsible, inhumane and entirely uneconomical". Poland's ruling party would have fewer qualms over deportation. But its leaders might be deterred by the expense and the damage to the economy.



Noisy populists, quiet globalists

The Polish government's most quintessentially European trait, when it comes to migration, is its unwillingness to discuss the topic and, more important, to make a case for it. Perhaps this is because the government is more hypocritical than most. pis is one of Europe's most illiberal governing parties, yet it has one of its most liberal immigration policies. It is like a dirty secret. When one minister admitted that immigration was necessary for the Polish economy to keep zooming along, he was fired. Like its neighbours to the west, Poland's government has opted for a combination of naivety, deceit and hope that things will sort themselves out. Perhaps it is just the European way. But it is unlikely to work.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/0 ... cle-link-3">https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/02/22/poland-is-cocking-up-migration-in-a-very-european-way?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-02-26&utm_content=article-link-3

That is an about face for the governing Law and Justice Party.

It is a betrayal.

Odinson


Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"Lovely multiculturalism at work in Paris..

Did you forget to post a picture or a video?

Odinson

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Odinson"Lovely multiculturalism at work in Paris..

Did you forget to post a picture or a video?

Here you go..

Its pretty fresh.



http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/gare-de-lyon-incendie-et-heurts-en-marge-du-concert-d-un-chanteur-congolais-28-02-2020-8269329.php">http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/g ... 269329.php">http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/gare-de-lyon-incendie-et-heurts-en-marge-du-concert-d-un-chanteur-congolais-28-02-2020-8269329.php





Summary..



This Congolese artist supports the current congolese government..

He is supposed to perform at a Parisian concert.



The Congolese monkeys in France are now spreading their tribal conflict to the civilized Europe.



Burning cars, attacking firemen who come to stop the fires..



The usual muslim and negro shit.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Odinson"Lovely multiculturalism at work in Paris..

Did you forget to post a picture or a video?

Here you go..

Its pretty fresh.



http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/gare-de-lyon-incendie-et-heurts-en-marge-du-concert-d-un-chanteur-congolais-28-02-2020-8269329.php">http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/g ... 269329.php">http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/gare-de-lyon-incendie-et-heurts-en-marge-du-concert-d-un-chanteur-congolais-28-02-2020-8269329.php





Summary..



This Congolese artist supports the current congolese government..

He is supposed to perform at a Parisian concert.



The Congolese monkeys in France are now spreading their tribal conflict to the civilized Europe.



Burning cars, attacking firemen who come to stop the fires..



The usual muslim and negro shit.

Bringing problems from their fucked up countries with them.

Odinson

At least Greece is doing something..



We have too many women in charge.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"At least Greece is doing something..



We have too many women in charge.

I read a headline about that. What exactly Greece doing?