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https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/delta-variant-is-covid-19-on-steroids-expert-says-1.5501533">Delta variant is 'COVID-19 on steroids,' expert says



Twenty-four U.S. states have seen an uptick of at least 10% in COVID-19 cases over the past week, Johns Hopkins University data shows, as health experts and the federal government keep pressing for more people to get vaccinated.



The rapid spread of the Delta variant of the coronavirus has only ratcheted up the pressure.



That variant, first identified in India, accounted for 51.7% of all new COVID-19 infections in the country over the two weeks that ended Saturday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has estimated.



"We should think about the Delta variant as the 2020 version of COVID-19 on steroids," Andy Slavitt, a former senior adviser to Joe Biden's COVID Response Team, told CNN on Wednesday. "It's twice as infectious. Fortunately, unlike 2020, we actually have a tool that stops the Delta variant in its tracks: It's called vaccine."



For fully vaccinated people, the variant "presents very little threat to you, very unlikely that you're gonna get sick," he explained.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Quote from: cc post_id=415613 time=1625940984 user_id=88
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/delta-variant-is-covid-19-on-steroids-expert-says-1.5501533">Delta variant is 'COVID-19 on steroids,' expert says



Twenty-four U.S. states have seen an uptick of at least 10% in COVID-19 cases over the past week, Johns Hopkins University data shows, as health experts and the federal government keep pressing for more people to get vaccinated.



The rapid spread of the Delta variant of the coronavirus has only ratcheted up the pressure.



That variant, first identified in India, accounted for 51.7% of all new COVID-19 infections in the country over the two weeks that ended Saturday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has estimated.



"We should think about the Delta variant as the 2020 version of COVID-19 on steroids," Andy Slavitt, a former senior adviser to Joe Biden's COVID Response Team, told CNN on Wednesday. "It's twice as infectious. Fortunately, unlike 2020, we actually have a tool that stops the Delta variant in its tracks: It's called vaccine."



For fully vaccinated people, the variant "presents very little threat to you, very unlikely that you're gonna get sick," he explained.

That frickin Delta variant has no respect for youth.

Anonymous

Good news for Velver and I.



People Who Recover From COVID-19 at 'Very Low Risk' of Re-Infection: Study



People who have contracted COVID-19 and recovered should know that the risk for re-infection is very low, a doctor said after a study he worked on was published.



Researchers analyzed records from Curative, a clinical laboratory based in San Dimas that specializes in COVID-19 testing and has during the pandemic been conducting routine workforce screening. None of the 254 employees who had COVID-19 and recovered became re-infected, while four of the 739 who were fully vaccinated contracted the disease.



"The big takeaway was that if you are not vaccinated, and were not previously infected, one, you have a very high risk getting infected—24 percent of employees over a year tested positive. However, on the flip side, if you were vaccinated or previously infected your risk was near zero," Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, clinical professor of preventive medicine and medicine at the University of Southern California's Keck School of Medicine, told The Epoch Times.



Klausner and Dr. Noah Kojima of the University of California, Los Angeles' Department of Medicine joined with Curative workers to analyze the records. They released a pre-print, or pre-peer reviewed version of the study online this week.



Researchers found that of the 4,313 employees who were not previously infected or fully vaccinated, 254 became infected.



The findings add to the growing body of research that indicates people who had COVID-19 and recovered enjoy a similar level of protection as those who have gotten a vaccine, following a study in the United Kingdom and one by Cleveland Clinic researchers.





"It should give confidence to people who have recovered that they are at very low risk for repeat infection and some experts including myself believe that protection is equal to vaccination," Klausner told The Epoch Times.



"And we're trying to update policy such that people who have recovered have the same privileges and access as people who are vaccinated."



According to federal guidance, vaccines should be administered to people irrespective of whether they've had COVID-19 in the past.



The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has said officials are aware of evidence suggesting natural immunity among those who have been infected but has not altered its recommendations to incorporate that evidence.



"We do not comment on non-CDC authored papers. We continually evaluate the science that leads to our guidance, and if it needs to be changed, we will be base that on our own research and studies," a spokesman told The Epoch Times in an email last month.

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Anonymous

It's still a good idea to get a COVID vaccine dose.

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It's still a good idea to get a COVID vaccine dose.

Yes. There is contradicting evidence on it based on physical analysis, not on counts. I posted something specifically on that a cpl of days ago
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=415669 time=1626028589 user_id=88
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=415665 time=1626027090 user_id=3254
It's still a good idea to get a COVID vaccine dose.

Yes. There is contradicting evidence on it based on physical analysis, not on counts. I posted something specifically on that a cpl of days ago

I'm losing faith in vaccines. No, I I don't mean I think they will turn us into magnetized zombies like DD and Blazor do. I doubt their ability to control the spread. They are more like treatments than vaccines.

cc

quote=seoulbro post_id=415670 time=1626029173 user_id=114]I doubt their ability to control the spread. They are more like treatments than vaccines.

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Not exactly sure what you mean "their ability to control the spread". For everyone vaxxed, there is a 95% chance they will not be infected



Surely that + those already infected reduces spread. Spread is a numbers game wherein the less infected, the less the spread



The more vaxxed, the less get infected = the less the spread


QuoteI doubt their ability to control the spread.

All real world numbers support the initial numbers of the manufacturers = many less infected -= many less spreading it


QuoteThey are more like treatments than vaccines.
Now you really have me confussed. They stop most from infection, period .. and yes in 5% of cases do reduce severity which could be termed treatment, but only applied to that 5 % infected

That element in vaccines is huge spread-wise + on top of greatly decreasing the number of infected (which in this context, is ability  to spread)



Help!! The more I think on those rationales, the confuseder /I get  ac_smile
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

I haven't read as much about it as you have. But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=415672 time=1626030992 user_id=114
I haven't read as much about it as you have. But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

Then get fucking vaccinated. What have you got to lose.

cc

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=415672 time=1626030992 user_id=114
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 But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

For the 5 % who do get infected they do exactly that



Vaccines totally prevent infection is 95% of people who are subjected to the disease .. so do not get sick and thus do not spread



For the few who do catch it, yes, they are greatly protected from severe symptoms



Thus vaccines are a double win (prevention for most and reduction of severity for the few who catch it



That's the beauty of them - Win / win .. even for the few who lose round 1, they still usually win round 2
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=415670 time=1626029173 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=415669 time=1626028589 user_id=88
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=415665 time=1626027090 user_id=3254
It's still a good idea to get a COVID vaccine dose.

Yes. There is contradicting evidence on it based on physical analysis, not on counts. I posted something specifically on that a cpl of days ago

I'm losing faith in vaccines. No, I I don't mean I think they will turn us into magnetized zombies like DD and Blazor do. I doubt their ability to control the spread. They are more like treatments than vaccines.

If you are not buying the white trash youtube videos that have Blaze acting like a 10 year old girl, get the fucking vaccine. You have nothing to lose.

Odinson

Dont do it Seoul.



These people serve the Chinese goverment.

Anonymous

Quote from: Odinson post_id=415676 time=1626036541 user_id=136
Dont do it Seoul.



These people serve the Chinese goverment.

I forgot, ur one of them. :001_rolleyes:

Anonymous

Quote from: Odinson post_id=415676 time=1626036541 user_id=136
Dont do it Seoul.



These people serve the Chinese goverment.

I am not doing it.



I have antibodies from getting the virus and recovering. I don't need a useless vaccine that is a actually a treatment instead of a vaccine.